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  • But revenge is personal...?

    JonDee013 posted: »

    ...the fans, not the game. And it's just a bit of revenge, a taste of their own medicine. It's not personal.

  • Maybe that's because the Forrester's were in an unwinnable position? Still, nobody complains that you win no matter what in Borderlands, so I don't see why it's okay for them to whinge non-stop about how you lose no matter what in GoT. Either way, you're being railroaded. As has been said, at least GoT has different endings to mitigate this.

    Then why give us a Choice If we can't Win. Nobody want a decision based Game, where you can only lose. If you can always Win, Then it's still reasonable to give Us a Choice. It just feels more satisfiying.

    Because Borderlands, in my opinion, had some funny characters--certainly some iconic and popular one's, but the depth just wasn't there. I didn't hate them, I just didn't connect to them all that much.

    Thats completely Ok

    I haven't seen TWD Finale I will be soon, though, so thank you for not including spoilers. :) but again, I'm going to have to return to my previous point here; I really fail to see how Rhys and Fiona getting zapped into nothingness after finding the vault is any different than the Forrester brother collapsing into the mud, after the battle.

    It is. Because it closed the Story arc about that Vault And started a New One. In GoT however, you're still Going to fight against the Whitehills. You Are probably Going to See it, If you watched the TWD Finale. It's a Perfect example.

    But again, I'm not arguing that Borderlands doesn't have a lot of divergence depending on your choices -- it does. I'm just saying, I fail to find a choice in it that matter more than the two-brothers choice, the choice between Royland and Duncan, executing the traitor or not, marrying Morgryn or not, and so forth. It's just on a different level, in my opinion.

    Thats ok. the Brother Choice was good. But the Rest? The sentinel Choice doesn't Really Effect anything. Miras Choice just ends up in a different scene. Tales has Maybe less "Big Choices" But more Tiny differences across the whole Season, which Results in a better Choices & Consequences experience. But i think it's subjective, too.

    DillonDex posted: »

    1.no, i mean, that None of my Choices is an actual "Win" for the forresters. Maybe that's because the Forrester's were in an unwinna

  • You didn't get a debate sir, you got a war... lol

    Brodester08 posted: »

    No, of course that wasn't a serious rating of the game, it was meant to get fanboys riled up and angry, and well, it worked! I was looking f

  • Not necessarily.

    bigdogg0821 posted: »

    But revenge is personal...?

  • Even better!

    bigdogg0821 posted: »

    You didn't get a debate sir, you got a war... lol

  • are just acting out their frustrations over how overrated Tales is.

    enjoys hating on Game of Thrones for, usually, undisclosed reasons.

    Isn't that kind of contradictory to your argument? Talk about how you dislike when people hate on something for no reason, and then call a game "overrated" without giving any reason as to why you think that way? :p

    Keep in mind I'm talking as someone who enjoys both games.

    DillonDex posted: »

    Many People who have GoT up on the List, don't like TftBL What, all four of them? I think most of them--myself included--are just ac

  • Then why give us a Choice If we can't Win. Nobody want a decision based Game, where you can only lose. If you can always Win, Then it's still reasonable to give Us a Choice. It just feels more satisfiying.

    House Forrester is still alive, though, it still exists. Sure, they take some heavy losses, as is appropriate, but your decisions determine those losses, and how they come about. You lose the battle no matter what - because you had no chance of victory to begin with, really, but Gared succeeded. Mira can survive. It's not as simple as "you lose." Not at all.

    It is. Because it closed the Story arc about that Vault And started a New One. In GoT however, you're still Going to fight against the Whitehills.

    Well, it's all relative. Going after another vault, continuing to fight the Whitehills...

    The sentinel Choice doesn't Really Effect anything.

    It effects who is your right-hand-man the entire game, plus gives you lots of unique dialogue, and since Royland and Duncan are completely people, lends their scenes a different feel.

    Miras Choice just ends up in a different scene.

    Quite an important different scene... one that is literally life and death.

    Tales has Maybe less "Big Choices" But more Tiny differences across the whole Season, which Results in a better Choices & Consequences experience. But i think it's subjective, too.

    Well, they're both good, but obviously, I'd still argue GoT wins out... it certainly is subjective.

    GSSalvador posted: »

    Maybe that's because the Forrester's were in an unwinnable position? Still, nobody complains that you win no matter what in Borderlands, so

  • There is a difference! Tales would Start a New Story arc. Because we defeated the vault Monster. In GoT however, we Are still Going to fight the Whitehills. If Telltale had Said, that GoT would Require more Seasons, to Complete the Whitehills arc, Then there would Be no Problem. Because many People did buy it under the expectation, to have 1 Story arc for 1 Season. Which was Not the Case. Like TWDS1 & 2. S1 ended the Story arc of Lee. And S2 started Clementines Arc.

    JonDee013 posted: »

    YOU HAVE TO DO THE SAME IN BORDERLANDS! My god... facepalm And GoT all along was going to have a second season, plus it's Telltale's prer

  • edited April 2016

    I don't think calling something overrated is on the same scale as calling something a 1/10 product, that is awful on every level. An assertion of that magnitude requires a thorough explanation--e.g. if I said Tales fucking sucked, without elaborating, that would be the same thing.

    Keep in mind I'm talking as someone who enjoys both games.

    I respect that. In truth, I am actually part of that demographic.

    Edit: besides, this whole thread is filled up with my various explanations now, and if you want clarification on anything else specifically, you need only ask. :)

    Green613 posted: »

    are just acting out their frustrations over how overrated Tales is. enjoys hating on Game of Thrones for, usually, undisclosed reason

  • So you're saying that only the characters in Tales are able to do that? no way, because somehow I happened to have that same experience with characters in Thrones! Crazy, I know.

    Thats subjective. I only find rodrik interesting.

    Again, the same thing happened in Thrones, Game of Thrones was a lot of defeat, that is true, but look at the situation of the story compared to Tales: A noble house struggles to survive while being tormented by their oldest enemies, I wouldn't really expect many victories in there. But, Thrones HAS given a few moments of victory. Like for example: Having two chances to humiliate Gryff. There are also many other victories in the game, small and large, if you actually pay attention.

    yeah. A few. But some nontheless.

    How so? from what I've gathered, what you're saying is that you could make all the good choices in Game of Thrones, and still lose the whole thing no matter what. So you're saying making all bad choices and still winning, and being falsely rewarded, is better than the former?

    Thats the Point! GoT has Pretty much only Black/White. The only exception is Gwyn. In Tales there different tones. But i gutes Thats due to the Humor.

    Brodester08 posted: »

    Because it was more diversive. It had characters, that i liked who turned into assholes, And assholes who turned into people that i liked.

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    The struggle of expressing your opinion. I mean this in general btw not just you.

    Brodester08 posted: »

    Even better!

  • I actually think, that Most of These Are Subjective. But Both Games Are good. They have just completely different tones. But it's still fun, to Do a Little discussion about Thrones VS Borderlands without insulting each other.

    DillonDex posted: »

    Then why give us a Choice If we can't Win. Nobody want a decision based Game, where you can only lose. If you can always Win, Then it's stil

  • edited April 2016

    Thats subjective. I only find rodrik interesting.

    Okay, you're right. So since that aspect is subjective, you've just contradicted yourself with your first point, which was this:

    Because it was more diversive. It had characters, that i liked who turned into assholes, And assholes who turned into people that i liked.

    Okay, thanks for being so kind and ruling that one out for me :)

    Thats the Point! GoT has Pretty much only Black/White. The only exception is Gwyn. In Tales there different tones. But i gutes Thats due to the Humor.

    So you're saying that all of GoT's choices are black and white? and that's not the case for Tales? care to elaborate?

    GSSalvador posted: »

    So you're saying that only the characters in Tales are able to do that? no way, because somehow I happened to have that same experience with

  • I mean this in general btw not just you.

    B-but I thought I was the most important!! shitlord!

    The struggle of expressing your opinion. I mean this in general btw not just you.

  • Not Really the Choices but the characters. Ludd is an Asshole And stays an Asshole. The Same with His son.

    Brodester08 posted: »

    Thats subjective. I only find rodrik interesting. Okay, you're right. So since that aspect is subjective, you've just contradicted y

  • Ludd is an Asshole And stays an Asshole. The Same with His son.

    Handsome Jack is a villain and stays a villain.

    Rhys is a good guy and stays a good guy. Same with his friend Vaughn.

    I'm not seeing much competition here.

    GSSalvador posted: »

    Not Really the Choices but the characters. Ludd is an Asshole And stays an Asshole. The Same with His son.

  • Thats Not Really a good Counter, since you compare a playable Charakter to the villains. I can get behind the Jack accusation.

    Brodester08 posted: »

    Ludd is an Asshole And stays an Asshole. The Same with His son. Handsome Jack is a villain and stays a villain. Rhys is a good guy and stays a good guy. Same with his friend Vaughn. I'm not seeing much competition here.

  • Im just gonna ask it, Are you (GoT Fans) Really THAT frustrated about TftBL getting all the praises And GoT Not? I mean, atleast you get a New Season. Why Do you care?

  • My point is, you're picking out little aspects of Tales that make it better, even though GoT has similar ones.

    GSSalvador posted: »

    Thats Not Really a good Counter, since you compare a playable Charakter to the villains. I can get behind the Jack accusation.

  • Because ever since I've joined, all I've seen is Game of Thrones be constantly and unfairly criticized... but it just became comical, how outlandishly hated it was, in comparison to how absurdly popular Tales is... and then it turned out, I wasn't the only one who felt the same way. Hence we're reveling it, for the first time ever. It's nice.

    GSSalvador posted: »

    Im just gonna ask it, Are you (GoT Fans) Really THAT frustrated about TftBL getting all the praises And GoT Not? I mean, atleast you get a New Season. Why Do you care?

  • But GoT is more popular Then Tales. It sold more copies And was the One, that was more anticipated.

    JonDee013 posted: »

    Because ever since I've joined, all I've seen is Game of Thrones be constantly and unfairly criticized... but it just became comical, how ou

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    ...You need only look through the other pages on this thread to see how absurd that statement is. It sold more copies only because the Game of Thrones name is obviously a far bigger name than "Borderlands."

    My only point here was: Game of Thrones is always criticized. Tales is always praised.

    Today was the day that changed. It won't last long, of course, but for the moment, it's a bit of blissful anarchy. And that's why people like me are partaking in it, I think.

    GSSalvador posted: »

    But GoT is more popular Then Tales. It sold more copies And was the One, that was more anticipated.

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    what the fuck is happening right now in this thread. Is there seriously a TFTBL VS GoT debate happening. Fucking seriously?!

    Why does one have to be superior than the other. What's so wrong with liking both?!

  • That says definetly more about you guys, Then about The Game. But i get it. But Why Do you think, people Hate GoT?

    JonDee013 posted: »

    ...You need only look through the other pages on this thread to see how absurd that statement is. It sold more copies only because the Game

  • EXCUSE YOU, ITS SHIRTLORD!

    Brodester08 posted: »

    I mean this in general btw not just you. B-but I thought I was the most important!! shitlord!

  • But Why Do you think, people Hate GoT?

    I don't know, that's part of the reason I'm taking part in this, to figure it all out. As I think has been said before, reasons are rarely given.

    GSSalvador posted: »

    That says definetly more about you guys, Then about The Game. But i get it. But Why Do you think, people Hate GoT?

  • edited April 2016

    I'll leave this in the capable hands of @Brodester08

    what the fuck is happening right now in this thread. Is there seriously a TFTBL VS GoT debate happening. Fucking seriously?! Why does one have to be superior than the other. What's so wrong with liking both?!

  • Is there seriously a TFTBL VS GoT debate happening. Fucking seriously?!

    It's a rational, civil debate, I don't get why simply discussing which one is better is so absurd, just because you think it's stupid, doesn't mean other people shouldn't do it.

    Why does one have to be superior than the other. What's so wrong with liking both?!

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with liking both. I love both. But it's a different thing to prefer it to the other. Which is what we are willingly and openly discussing.

    And it was also driven from the unfair hate that Thrones gets, not hatred for Tales.

    what the fuck is happening right now in this thread. Is there seriously a TFTBL VS GoT debate happening. Fucking seriously?! Why does one have to be superior than the other. What's so wrong with liking both?!

  • Thank you, husband. ;)

    JonDee013 posted: »

    I'll leave this in the capable hands of @Brodester08

  • i Really don't think, that we're Going to get a straight answer. People hated the traitor scene in GoT. People hated the "flower" scene in TftBL. I can say, that i enjoyed TftBL more, Because i am a huge BL Fan. I Love that Humor And characters. I love Pandora, since i played thousands of Hours of BL1 & BL2. I Do Love The got Show, But the Game is technically a playable Show, But we already have a show. I think, Thats the Main Problem that People have. It's more of the Same.

    JonDee013 posted: »

    But Why Do you think, people Hate GoT? I don't know, that's part of the reason I'm taking part in this, to figure it all out. As I think has been said before, reasons are rarely given.

  • People hated the traitor scene in GoT.

    Some people hated the traitor scene in GoT. I certainly didn't. (Not with Duncan, anyway) Anyone who uses that as a reason for why they hate the game, though, are just drama-queens.

    Do Love The got Show, But the Game is technically a playable Show,

    Hmm, no. I think technically it's a video game.

    But we already have a show.

    We do. But we already have one Borderlands video game series - why need another? It's just circular logic at this point.

    Thats the Main Problem that People have. It's more of the Same.

    Indeed, more greatness. The show is great, and so is the game, I think.

    GSSalvador posted: »

    i Really don't think, that we're Going to get a straight answer. People hated the traitor scene in GoT. People hated the "flower" scene in T

  • I participated in the Thrones Hate. And i actually think, it was Pretty unfair of me. I mean, GoT has flaws, But so has TftBL. I just remembered the Time, where LiS got all the praises instead of Tales. Man...we were so pissed about it. But i think Time will heal all wounds.

    Brodester08 posted: »

    Is there seriously a TFTBL VS GoT debate happening. Fucking seriously?! It's a rational, civil debate, I don't get why simply discus

  • Yeah, of course it's a Video Game. But it plays like a TV Show. Thats the Point of Telltale. Interactive Cinema.

    JonDee013 posted: »

    People hated the traitor scene in GoT. Some people hated the traitor scene in GoT. I certainly didn't. (Not with Duncan, anyway) Any

  • Yeah. Plus this isn't even a good place to do it.

    Wow, what's with this whole Tales vs Thrones rivalry all of a sudden? This place is becoming more hostile than TWD section.

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    Yeah, of course it's a Video Game. But it plays like a TV Show.

    Does it? Do you usually pick dialogue options and make choices during your TV shows? I mean, I see what you're saying, but still...

    Thats the Point of Telltale. Interactive Cinema.

    True, but I don't see how that's relevant to a reason as to why you wouldn't like Game of Thrones: the Game.

    GSSalvador posted: »

    Yeah, of course it's a Video Game. But it plays like a TV Show. Thats the Point of Telltale. Interactive Cinema.

  • edited April 2016

    Uh okay have fun with your war(?) (Which you should move to another thread. I don't want to see this thread being closed down because of your dispute).

    Brodester08 posted: »

    Is there seriously a TFTBL VS GoT debate happening. Fucking seriously?! It's a rational, civil debate, I don't get why simply discus

  • It's a playable TV Show.

    There Are many reasons for it. But People Are different. Some People don't like the graphics, some People don't like GoT in General. Not everyone likes Everything.

    JonDee013 posted: »

    Yeah, of course it's a Video Game. But it plays like a TV Show. Does it? Do you usually pick dialogue options and make choices durin

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    It's a playable TV Show.

    It is a video game, based on a TV show. It is not a playable TV show because it's not a TV show at all, let alone one that you play.

    There Are many reasons for it. But People Are different. Some People don't like the graphics, some People don't like GoT in General. Not everyone likes Everything.

    Nor do I want, or expect them to. But if everyone could stop hating something (especially since it's pretty much always uncalled for) that'd be nice.

    GSSalvador posted: »

    It's a playable TV Show. There Are many reasons for it. But People Are different. Some People don't like the graphics, some People don't like GoT in General. Not everyone likes Everything.

  • How is this not a good place to do it? The purpose is to rate games and compare them, and that's what we're doing, comparing the games. I don't think the thread should really be closed for this, because it's actually a very good and debatable topic, and could be an eye opener to some people.

    Uh okay have fun with your war(?) (Which you should move to another thread. I don't want to see this thread being closed down because of your dispute).

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    And it's about time this forum got a different viewpoint on this specific subject.

    Brodester08 posted: »

    How is this not a good place to do it? The purpose is to rate games and compare them, and that's what we're doing, comparing the games. I do

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