Tim Schafer, so Twitter hates him now I guess?

He's trending on Twitter just because he made a joke about Gamer Gate with a sock puppet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa7S3sjw9z0

How do you guys feel about this? I honestly don't care really. As long as Broken Age ACT II comes out I'm happy.

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  • People are offended too easily.

  • Apparently 1+1+40=...50?

  • God is broken age act 2 still not out?

    Oh and I dont see how anyone could remotely care about this

  • People are offended by a shock puppet joke. Great! That seems legit.

  • Well, Gamer Gate has a reputation of being a bunch of childish idiots, so of course they would throw a temper tantrum.

  • Lmao...Oh god Tim Schafer you are awesome...

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  • edited March 2015

    Say it to their faces, Ben.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzwGIHUCtjU

    J-Master posted: »

    Well, Gamer Gate has a reputation of being a bunch of childish idiots, so of course they would throw a temper tantrum.

  • edited March 2015

    So you can probably guess what my stance on gg is. I'm not the kind of person who gets offended on the behalf of other people so I didn't get personally offended by it. Apparently, Notyourshield thought it was racist cuz ya know he kinda implied they were all fake. I guess it's not racist when you're anti-gg in a room full of white men tho.

  • Silly rich people.

  • Bold move by him.

    Such a great man. :)

  • He probably should've stayed out of it. The whole thing is full of a bunch of idiots, on both sides. No reason to throw yourself to sharks.

  • edited March 2015

    .. #notyourshield was a response to anti GG people using minorities as a tool (or a shield) to protect any argument they had, basically using the race/sex card to make any counter argument sound racist/sexist.

    so insulting #notyourshield is just insulting minorities that are sick of being used as shields in arguments, not actually insulting GG, which i would say was a mistake and probably just a misinformed result of thinking GG and #notyourshield is the same thing, i mean, i get he was trying to insult GG, but he was very ignorant with his insult, and just got it totally wrong.

  • He mixed business with politics bad move...

  • It was kinda hard to understand him, his delivery was pretty off. Sounded a bit like the set up of a "How many ____ does it take to ____?" joke.

  • I'm still trying to figure out what gamergate even is at this point.

  • Ive never heard of gamergate before so I decided to do a bit of research and ive come to the conclusion gamergate doesn't even know what gamergate is :( there policies are all over the place

  • For the record, I think GG is insanely counter-productive. That said...

    Being a life-long Republican (one of those increasingly rare Progressives), I have long found it silly how the Left never accepts that there are quite a number of women and minorities that go the Right. My old roommate was a lesbian and a McCain supporter. She didn't like the Republican stance on gay issues, but her other views were much more in line with them and she never appreciated people acting like she was some self-hater because her opinions naturally led her to the Republican Party. This kind of thing is always much more complicated than many people want to think it is.

    So, yeah, of course there's a bunch of women and minorities in GG, because the whole thing is a whirlwind of problems these people have with the game industry, and their presence has in many ways moderated GG because they can no longer make blanket statements against feminists now that they have self-identified feminists among their number.

    But then GG makes the exact same mistake by trying to pretend that only they speak for women and minorities, when it's very clear that they don't. They'll produce these graphics which include every prominent gay, female, or ethnic member of GG (regardless of whether they're a Gamer or not) and cherry pick a bunch of straight white guys as the Antis... even though they're regularly criticizing people like bisexual mixed raced Anthony Burch, women such as Sarkeesian, transexuals such as Brianna Wu, and so on.

    The path out of it will likely come from diversity seekers being much better at communicating that they're not trying to "force" the industry to do X, Y, and Z; but trying to counter the corporate directives which make X, Y, and Z extremely difficult. That they're giving moral and economic support to devs who are actively trying to tell certain kinds of stories and being told no. And part of that is being quick to say "Let Grand Theft Auto be Grand Theft Auto... but look how cool Saints Row is by pursuing a wider variety of interesting female characters."

    Sermon over.

    .. #notyourshield was a response to anti GG people using minorities as a tool (or a shield) to protect any argument they had, basically usin

  • Noise.

    By this point, it's every argument about video games happening all at once with both sides making blanket statements about the other. I'm pretty much convinced that anyone left using the hashtag (pro or con) is an asshole. I'm happy to join the discussion about the individual issues, but I give the finger who to anyone who tries to bring in all the extraneous baggage. If you want to have a discussion about bad game reviews, I'm down with it, but don't pretend that bad reviews only stem from one type of reviewer with a particular political agenda. That's BS to the nth degree.

    I'm still trying to figure out what gamergate even is at this point.

  • As far as I can tell what sparked this off was someone allegedly used a personal relationship to gain acclaim for there product. Well thats how business works, unfortunately its not about what you know its who you know.

    Netrigan posted: »

    For the record, I think GG is insanely counter-productive. That said... Being a life-long Republican (one of those increasingly rare Prog

  • Not exactly. That was the original charge, that she slept with someone who gave her a good review, but there was never a review. The only article written by the journalist in question was about the Mountain Dew Game Jam. He was covering the event and started a relationship with her.

    There's a couple of Indie-related mini-scandals, such as a reviewer giving her good friend and former roommate a perfect 10. There's a certain amount of speculation about some awards being given for financial reasons, but no hard evidence. And just generally objecting to the chummy coverage in the Indie scene. Of note is that certain pro-GG devs get some pretty chummy write-ups from pro-GG sites, so it's not exactly isolated to one side or the other.

    But the great bulk of journalistic (and YouTube scandals) involve good old fashion money. GG supporter Total Biscuit has brought to light at least two scandals among YouTubers. First when he helped exposed the unrevealed financial interests some YouTubers had in the games they covered. Most recently when he exposed the PR firm handling Shadow of Mordor not giving out pre-release codes to YouTubers unless they agreed to a lot of very specific conditions. TB had so many bad dealings with this PR firm, he's extremely reluctant to work with them, which suggests this is a pretty big problem. In the wake of Duke Nukem Forever, their PR firm promises retaliation to all the sites who gave their very bad game very bad reviews... on Twitter, like idiots, and got fired for it. Game journalists revealed it isn't unusual for them to get blacklisted from time-to-time because they refuse to give good reviews to games they get previews and ad revenue from. A publisher got a GameSpot editor fired when he gave Kane & Lynch a bad review, because of the ad revenue they gave the site. Game publishers, like other entertainment mediums, is doing everything they can to buy good reviews. Movies have shill bloggers who give great quotes for horrible movies. They run shill accounts to give their products good user reviews on Amazon and Metacritic and other sites. Making it harder and harder for consumers to find a honest review anywhere.

    The problem I have with GG is they focus far too much attention on the relatively minor issues of the Indie scene while giving lip service to the much larger corporate problem, which infects the industry at every level, not just "game journalists". It's YouTube, it's User Reviews, it's Game Journalists, it's everywhere. And they just cannot shut up about Social Justice Warriors, even GG supporters such as Total Biscuit and Sargon admit they talk way, way, way too much about people who simply do not matter to the game industry.

    Hopefully people will stop talking past each other and start realizing that, apart from some really nasty people on the political fringes, we all kind of want the same thing. We all want women to feel welcome in gaming. We all want reviews we can trust. We all want a wide variety of genres which appeal to a wide variety of consumers. And just about everyone is at least paying lip service to diversity, but mostly disagree on how to go about achieving it.

    As far as I can tell what sparked this off was someone allegedly used a personal relationship to gain acclaim for there product. Well thats how business works, unfortunately its not about what you know its who you know.

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