Prostitution

This morning I watched a video about prostitution on Stardusk's YouTube channel. He talked about Swedish prostitution and how it is legal for people to sell their services, but illegal for others to purchase them. I was just curious what this forum's take on prostitution as a whole is.

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  • I don't think it should be illegal on both sides, if people want to pay to fuck/ get $$ to get fucked, why should anyone care?

  • People like to mind other people's business.

    I don't see why people should care if someone is a prostitute or if they like to pay prostitutes for easy fucking.

  • And morally?

    Green613 posted: »

    I don't think it should be illegal on both sides, if people want to pay to fuck/ get $$ to get fucked, why should anyone care?

  • Morally, I wouldn't do it because I think it's weird, but I don't have a problem with others doing it since it's their choice, why should I care?

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    And morally?

  • edited August 2015

    Are we allowed to talk about this? Personally, I think it's a more complicated question than either side assumes it to be. Those in favor of legalization often claim that it is a consenual exchange between two adults, and therefore the government has no role in banning it. On the other side, people will point to the economic forces which often drive women into prostitution (that's without even going into the issue of pimps and the potential exploitation there, which is another complicated but related issue), namely people incredibly strapped for cash who turn to prostitution (including the recent trend of college students looking for sugar daddies).

    Both arguments are valid. The question is one of degree, and where we think that lies. Surely people working in mines aren't there because it is their dream job, but we nonetheless consider it acceptable. I think prostitution really should be looked from a similar standpoint as the minimum wage or safety regulations; namely at what point do we, as a society, say that wages are too low (or the toll of working too high) to be considered an acceptable option. As to selling your body for sex, people need to look at the physical and mental tolls those take on the person - some will point to prostitutes developping more issues with their sexual organs and argue banning it for that reason, but how do those compare to the injuries sustained by football players, the latter of whose life expectancy is significantly decreased? To condemn the one and not the other is hypocrisy, searching for reasons to ban prostitution out of preconceived assumptions. Even the mental, how much is related to the nature of the profession and how much is related to the stigma associated with it? Homosexuals and transsexuals have a higher suicide rate than cisgendered heterosexuals, but we generally agree that is due to the social environment in which we live. Prostitution might very well be the same. Being called a whore, or, even worse, believing yourself to a 'whore' might have far more mental damages than engaging in sexual activity with a stranger (a form of physical and emotional labor).

    I don't have an answer. I'd say I'm in favor of decriminalization and regulation, as I think that is the best step forward as things are; but whether or not we should consider prostitution a legitimate, consensual exchange is a bit fuzzy. Even if we don't, I think education campaigns and general welfare are more effective than criminalization. Yet even in this, I'm putting the onus on the john - if the prostitute can be said to be doing what they are doing out of their own volition - fine; if not - that's society's problem, not the prostitute's. If there is any exploitation going on, and that is the big question, it is by the john. There can be no valid moral condemnation of the prostitute in my mind.

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited August 2015

    I think it should be legal, but with some restrictions.

    1.) To maintain public decency, restrict where, when and how prostitutes can solicit.

    2.) Regular STD screenings and strict contraception standards.

    3.) Safeguards against abusive customers and pimps.

    4.) Double down on efforts to combat human trafficking for purposes of prostitution.

    5.) And of course, it should be taxed.

  • Also, no reason prostition should be illegal while pornography is legal. Money + sex + camera = legal. Money + sex - camera = illegal. It makes no sense.

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited August 2015

    In my opinion, the problem with prostitution isn't the act itself. The problem lies in the disease, abuse and human-trafficking that sometimes comes with it. Legalizing and regulating the industry would be a good start.

    Sarangholic posted: »

    Also, no reason prostition should be illegal while pornography is legal. Money + sex + camera = legal. Money + sex - camera = illegal. It makes no sense.

  • i agree with all this guy said, altho i wouldn't be too hard on 1

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    I think it should be legal, but with some restrictions. 1.) To maintain public decency, restrict where, when and how prostitutes can soli

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited August 2015

    Yeah, 1 is mainly to keep "anatomical sales representatives" from soliciting near kids or in obtrusive ways.

    Aaira posted: »

    i agree with all this guy said, altho i wouldn't be too hard on 1

  • Sex is something we should stay out of regardless if it involves money or not. Although we should have strict limitations on it like when it comes to children or if it goes beyond self employment into human trafficking. As long as they're self employed and not some sex slave they can do as they like

  • Prostitution should be illegal. Girls aren't screwing people because they want to, they do it because they need that drip.

  • By that logic there shouldn't be any jobs in the world. 90% of people do labor because they need money, not because they want to :P

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Prostitution should be illegal. Girls aren't screwing people because they want to, they do it because they need that drip.

  • Very few people are doing the jobs they are because they want to. Why should it be illegal?

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Prostitution should be illegal. Girls aren't screwing people because they want to, they do it because they need that drip.

  • Well whatever, i don't really care either way.

    Green613 posted: »

    By that logic there shouldn't be any jobs in the world. 90% of people do labor because they need money, not because they want to :P

  • You should only evoke morality if what 2 consenting people are doing can somehow hurt anyone else. In this case it can't. There are jobs that are way more dangerous than prostitution. tbh, we all wear clothes made in sweatshops of third world (mostly Bangladesh), where people work really hard for almost no money (20$ per month) and live in what anyone of us would consider a garbage dump site. That is real exploitation, a woman who chooses to engage in a sexual act based on monetary payment (and not some fancy restaurant visit or something on those lines) is definitely not exploted. And no blame should be put on a male customer as well.

    Green613 posted: »

    Morally, I wouldn't do it because I think it's weird, but I don't have a problem with others doing it since it's their choice, why should I care?

  • Legal but very strict laws. Forced STD checks every month etc.

  • I think prostitution, known as soliciting sex (in the US) should be illegal because, 1. Prostitues are under a secret slavery, which can't be escaped because that might, kill those ladies, 2. It's dangerous.

  • Like BigBlindMax said, it should be legal, with regulations. If we criminalize it, then we can't regulate it ,can we? And since prostitution is probably going to continue whether it's legal or not, we may as well legalize it so that we can protect the people working in that industry from abuse, STI's, and human trafficking.

  • I guess I would be okay with it being legal if it was regulated and the human trafficking wasn't part of it.

  • edited August 2015

    I used to be against prostitution, but I don't care anymore. If women or men want to sell themselves for sex then it's their own choice. But it should be properly regulated so as to prevent diseases and abuse.

  • As for number one, are you talking about a prostitute working for a pimp? It doesn't hAve to be slavery, especially if legalized so the work can be regulated.

    And number two, what makes it so dangerous? Circumstances that could be circumvented with legalization?

    I think prostitution, known as soliciting sex (in the US) should be illegal because, 1. Prostitues are under a secret slavery, which can't be escaped because that might, kill those ladies, 2. It's dangerous.

  • Um.....cool.

  • God damn puritans ruining things for everyone else.

  • Legalize prostitution. I'll never get laid if it's illegal lol

  • Who cares how a woman prefers to make her money? If she is willing, STD-free and mature enough to handle her clients, I don't see the reason for making prostitution illegal.

    I do agree that STD screenings for women (and men) in the sex industry should be mandatory. Any sex profession should require a license.

  • Who cares?

  • I can see why it would help reduce rapes, but I don't know if it actually would. If it would, it's welcomed. If it won't, I don't give a flying fuck.

  • Yes under the right conditions I can imagine pimps forcing women to make them money. I'd have mandory std check and psychology check before the woman can become one. Also the customer will need a std check to. If the price is right why not ayy lmao

  • You know that making it illegal won't stop prostitution, right? In fact, if it's illegal then it's not regulated, so the chances of slavery are much bigger.

    I think prostitution, known as soliciting sex (in the US) should be illegal because, 1. Prostitues are under a secret slavery, which can't be escaped because that might, kill those ladies, 2. It's dangerous.

  • People want to willingly prostitute themselves? Then it's totally fine by me.

  • If people aren't being force to be Prostitutes, if they have their fun in private areas and not community or public ones and if they are scanned for STDs to avoid spreading it around, then I don't see why it should be illegal, I mean Prostitution is just paid sex - other than money, it's no different from normal sex although I guess people who rely on good morality, it's bad since they have sex with multiple people, but it's their choice, I'm not a prostitute nor do I or will I ever pay for sex, I live my life how I want to and they can live theirs how they want to.

  • I don't see why people should even have opinions on it if it doesn't involve them.

    Let people make money that way, it doesn't hurt you.

  • edited September 2015

    I don't think so. Just because human trafficking is a big problem.

  • Which would be lessened by regulatory laws?

    AAA_Jane posted: »

    I don't think so. Just because human trafficking is a big problem.

  • I'm curious, do you think the normal avenues for obtaining sex are that different from prostitution? It is changing, but the vast majority of noncommittal sexual relations revolve around the man spending money on the woman before being allowed into the land of warm milk and honey. Going to the movies, a nice restaurant, then the bedroom.

    prink34320 posted: »

    If people aren't being force to be Prostitutes, if they have their fun in private areas and not community or public ones and if they are sca

  • nice guy
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  • edited September 2015

    No.
    (I'll add more later.)

  • Well that was a rather quick side switch lol.

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    No. (I'll add more later.)

  • lmfao

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Well that was a rather quick side switch lol.

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