That sounds amazing, very professional sounding. I doubt telltale wanted to have all the layers combined in some sort of way to create a definitive song, but either way it's a nice find.
Yeah, I agree. I'm just imagining a scene in which this 'hollow' Clementine could react to a certain situation. For example:
Say Carver has been doing some horrible stuff while the group has been in his camp. But, during Amid the Ruins or something, say the group found a way out, but Carver is after them. A fight ensues, and Carver gets beaten up pretty bad (Not by Clem, say, Kenny). But Kenny stops before he can kill Carver, and decides to walk off. Clementine is then given her first truly life-changing decision: whether to finish Carver or not. If you choose to kill Carver, Clem grabs a gun or a melee weapon (Players choice) and approaches Carver. The group says, "C'mon Clem, leave him, he's a goner now anyways." But then you have some dialog options. One of the main ones could be to just shout, "NO!!" to the group, with an almost sadistic look on her face. This would leave them all in shock, and Carver gets killed by Clementine. Any thoughts?
I'm sure if telltale went down that road, they would handle it better than the way the comics and tv show handles Carl. Clem's smart, Carl..… more not so much. Clem is the main character, while Carl is a less important character used for the sake of having a kid that Rick cares about. I think of it as more of a hollow and unforgiving Clem than a bratty and edgy one.
I think Clem fears him more than hates him in EP3, at least in the beginning. But that idea could work if Carver did a lot of horrible things to Clem, instead of just making them do slave labor and hitting like the preview we saw implies. I like that idea actually, and it gave me an idea too. Each layer of the song represents the emotion that episode will give you, so if you combine it all together, it's like Clem's worst memories and experiences from each episode combined into one sadistic and creepy Clem. Just a thought, but the idea of it intrigues me.
Yeah, I agree. I'm just imagining a scene in which this 'hollow' Clementine could react to a certain situation. For example:
Say Carver h… moreas been doing some horrible stuff while the group has been in his camp. But, during Amid the Ruins or something, say the group found a way out, but Carver is after them. A fight ensues, and Carver gets beaten up pretty bad (Not by Clem, say, Kenny). But Kenny stops before he can kill Carver, and decides to walk off. Clementine is then given her first truly life-changing decision: whether to finish Carver or not. If you choose to kill Carver, Clem grabs a gun or a melee weapon (Players choice) and approaches Carver. The group says, "C'mon Clem, leave him, he's a goner now anyways." But then you have some dialog options. One of the main ones could be to just shout, "NO!!" to the group, with an almost sadistic look on her face. This would leave them all in shock, and Carver gets killed by Clementine. Any thoughts?
To me a mental state meltdown is just as bad as dying. Her character gives us hope in an environment where everything else in society has already crumbled apart and to see these small cracks in her personality (possibly leading to a massively sad outcome) is not how I wish her to be at the end. I would rather not even play as Clem for Season 3 (if there is one) than to play as a mentally deranged Clem who is a shadow of her former self.
Great analysis, I like it. But man those episode themes are creepy. They seem to be getting worse, perhaps like Clementine's future mental s… moretate. Telltale has probably realised by now that when characters start to lose it, they do crazier things and the fans might lose a bit of respect towards them. My thought is that they're planning to do this to Clem, so that we're playing as a character that's slowly turning into a 'monster' despite her young age.
'Amid the Ruins' seems to help prove this point, as the blood on her face is either some kind of war paint, or Clem's getting some blood on her hands. She's also missing her hat. Now, judging from what we've seen in Season 1 and part of Season 2, her hat is something that is incredibly important to her; it's pretty much the last thing that she has to remind her of her parents. If she's not wearing it, she may have just 'dismissed' her parents. This is also a sign that she is maturing a little… [view original content]
They use a new non-violin version of Clem's theme after Wednesday's update for EP1 but I can't seem to find it on YT, I thought Mikon had it uploaded but I guess not.
I've just had another notion about where things could go in episode 5. Supposing Clem and Carver are the only ones to have made it all the way to the end of season 2? Due to a series of brutal events throughout episodes 3/4, both characters are now on their last legs, physically and emotionally, stripped down to the purest, basest archetypes of good vs. evil. Imagine Clem being stalked by Carver in the middle of a punishing blizzard (not unlike that scene in THE SHINING where Jack Nicholson chases Danny Lloyd through the snow) while Carver screams "Clementiiiiiiine! "Clementiiiiiiine!" somewhere close by.
Amazing theory!! One of the better threads I have seen in a quite some time. If this really is a descent to madness, then it really is pretty creepy. And those tracks! Oh man every next one is more unsettling and more creepy than the previous one, especially the Episode 5, at some parts it sounds like a subdued scream. And really when you play them all at once it really sounds like one creepy theme. Maybe TT did this intentionally? Every episode has one layer of music. Also think about the names as well. ''Amid The Ruins", maybe it really means complete loss of innocence or "No Going Back", maybe that revenge you mentioned, revenge and that hunt can really drive people in to insanity.
Whoa.. Such a creepy theory I still have shivers down my spine brrrr... After reading it and listening to the tracks. If this is TT direction for Season 2 then I love it. No matter how creepy or unsettling the theme of "losing mental health'' is, I always loved stories that dealt with that kind of themes.
By that quote I meant that Luke has feelings for Clem in a creepy pedo way. While Clem looks up to him as a role-model and slight Lee-ish figure. Him trying to make a move on Clem that ends up bad, for him or for her, who knows, and her being scarred by it. That's what I meant by what I said, hope that helps clear things up a bit.
I think it's a little bit more complex than that. Perhaps Luke is more attracted to her mature personality than how she is physically. In that sense he sees her as a younger sister, if she were about 10 years older, say his age, he'd probably make a move.
By that quote I meant that Luke has feelings for Clem in a creepy pedo way. While Clem looks up to him as a role-model and slight Lee-ish fi… moregure. Him trying to make a move on Clem that ends up bad, for him or for her, who knows, and her being scarred by it. That's what I meant by what I said, hope that helps clear things up a bit.
That is true, since she's wiser and smarter than most people in the group. Luke notices that, but the way he acts towards her is more than respect and liking. And Clem doesn't really seem to be bothered by it, maybe Clem has a small crush on him. That is normal for girls her age. But we can't really say for sure if telltale will pull out that card.
I think it's a little bit more complex than that. Perhaps Luke is more attracted to her mature personality than how she is physically. In th… moreat sense he sees her as a younger sister, if she were about 10 years older, say his age, he'd probably make a move.
I seem to think that 'No Going Back' will apply to either the journey to Wellington, or Clementine's mental state, implying that she has gone 'over the edge' as it were.
Amazing theory!! One of the better threads I have seen in a quite some time. If this really is a descent to madness, then it really is prett… morey creepy. And those tracks! Oh man every next one is more unsettling and more creepy than the previous one, especially the Episode 5, at some parts it sounds like a subdued scream. And really when you play them all at once it really sounds like one creepy theme. Maybe TT did this intentionally? Every episode has one layer of music. Also think about the names as well. ''Amid The Ruins", maybe it really means complete loss of innocence or "No Going Back", maybe that revenge you mentioned, revenge and that hunt can really drive people in to insanity.
Whoa.. Such a creepy theory I still have shivers down my spine brrrr... After reading it and listening to the tracks. If this is TT direction for Season 2 then I love it. No matter how creepy or unsettling the theme of "losing mental health'' is, I always loved stories that dealt with that kind of themes.
I don't think Clem will be alone in No Going Back. We have to make five major choices each ep with effect other characters and I don't see how that's possible going alone. Maybe depending on our choices, we can choose who to take with us for the end.
Also, I have a potential theory.
What was season 1 about? I believe protecting Clem. This premise is reflected by the fact that the last 90 minutes revolve around saving her. It was about a selfish taker of human life who became selfless and saved a little girl.
Now, what is season 2 about? Well, the one thing common between ATR and AHD is the fact that Clem is kept "in the dark" about these people. They do not trust her, no matter what anyone else says. I imagine Clem is going to learn some real nasty stuff that just makes her hate herself for trusting these people; it pushes her over the edge and makes her retreat into herself and away from humanity. She won't trust herself at all anymore. So I'd say season 2 could be about trust or ignorance. One of these two things will have an impact on the story somehow.
Oh my god, such amazing and spellbinding music. Terrifying too. It makes me think that there are going to be some fucked up things that are going to happen the closer we get to the end of the season. I just hope it's not Clem dying. God forbid!
I must say if even a fraction of these theories are correct I may not be able to handle the rest of this season. The episode four music reminded me of the collector ship music from Mass Effect 2. And the episode 5 music is just creepy as hell. That soundtrack, title, and slide have me so fucking scared.
Maybe depending on our choices, we can choose who to take with us for the end.
My humble fan's prediction: We'll be forced to decide once and for all between Kenny or Luke at the end of episode 3, resulting in one of them dying. The rest of the cast is whittled down throughout episode 4, until it's ONLY Clem and Kenny/Luke for the duration of part 5.
I don't think Clem will be alone in No Going Back. We have to make five major choices each ep with effect other characters and I don't see h… moreow that's possible going alone. Maybe depending on our choices, we can choose who to take with us for the end.
Also, I have a potential theory.
What was season 1 about? I believe protecting Clem. This premise is reflected by the fact that the last 90 minutes revolve around saving her. It was about a selfish taker of human life who became selfless and saved a little girl.
Now, what is season 2 about? Well, the one thing common between ATR and AHD is the fact that Clem is kept "in the dark" about these people. They do not trust her, no matter what anyone else says. I imagine Clem is going to learn some real nasty stuff that just makes her hate herself for trusting these people; it pushes her over the edge and makes her retreat into herself and away from humanity. She won't trust herself at all anym… [view original content]
Oh my god, such amazing and spellbinding music. Terrifying too. It makes me think that there are going to be some fucked up things that are going to happen the closer we get to the end of the season. I just hope it's not Clem dying. God forbid!
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Wow, the Episode 5 slide music sounds really unnerving in a good way.
You can open up each Episode OST in a separate tab and play in all at once, unless someone finds a better way.
Eh i mixed them all together here http://vocaroo.com/i/s1sBAey7NZWh
That sounds amazing, very professional sounding. I doubt telltale wanted to have all the layers combined in some sort of way to create a definitive song, but either way it's a nice find.
Yeah, I agree. I'm just imagining a scene in which this 'hollow' Clementine could react to a certain situation. For example:
Say Carver has been doing some horrible stuff while the group has been in his camp. But, during Amid the Ruins or something, say the group found a way out, but Carver is after them. A fight ensues, and Carver gets beaten up pretty bad (Not by Clem, say, Kenny). But Kenny stops before he can kill Carver, and decides to walk off. Clementine is then given her first truly life-changing decision: whether to finish Carver or not. If you choose to kill Carver, Clem grabs a gun or a melee weapon (Players choice) and approaches Carver. The group says, "C'mon Clem, leave him, he's a goner now anyways." But then you have some dialog options. One of the main ones could be to just shout, "NO!!" to the group, with an almost sadistic look on her face. This would leave them all in shock, and Carver gets killed by Clementine. Any thoughts?
Thanks. I just randomly decided to play them all, and then I was like, 'Well damn.'
This is great, thanks for doing that.
I wonder what happens if Clem's Theme is mixed in as well...
Give me a link and i'll add it in.
I think Clem fears him more than hates him in EP3, at least in the beginning. But that idea could work if Carver did a lot of horrible things to Clem, instead of just making them do slave labor and hitting like the preview we saw implies. I like that idea actually, and it gave me an idea too. Each layer of the song represents the emotion that episode will give you, so if you combine it all together, it's like Clem's worst memories and experiences from each episode combined into one sadistic and creepy Clem. Just a thought, but the idea of it intrigues me.
To me a mental state meltdown is just as bad as dying. Her character gives us hope in an environment where everything else in society has already crumbled apart and to see these small cracks in her personality (possibly leading to a massively sad outcome) is not how I wish her to be at the end. I would rather not even play as Clem for Season 3 (if there is one) than to play as a mentally deranged Clem who is a shadow of her former self.
They use a new non-violin version of Clem's theme after Wednesday's update for EP1 but I can't seem to find it on YT, I thought Mikon had it uploaded but I guess not.
I've just had another notion about where things could go in episode 5. Supposing Clem and Carver are the only ones to have made it all the way to the end of season 2? Due to a series of brutal events throughout episodes 3/4, both characters are now on their last legs, physically and emotionally, stripped down to the purest, basest archetypes of good vs. evil. Imagine Clem being stalked by Carver in the middle of a punishing blizzard (not unlike that scene in THE SHINING where Jack Nicholson chases Danny Lloyd through the snow) while Carver screams "Clementiiiiiiine! "Clementiiiiiiine!" somewhere close by.
Do you mean this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9rf4IBd3gw
Nah, it's the version they used in the pre-main menu with the Logo, but without the violin in it. It's also shortened and cut in a few parts.
Amazing theory!! One of the better threads I have seen in a quite some time. If this really is a descent to madness, then it really is pretty creepy. And those tracks! Oh man every next one is more unsettling and more creepy than the previous one, especially the Episode 5, at some parts it sounds like a subdued scream. And really when you play them all at once it really sounds like one creepy theme. Maybe TT did this intentionally? Every episode has one layer of music. Also think about the names as well. ''Amid The Ruins", maybe it really means complete loss of innocence or "No Going Back", maybe that revenge you mentioned, revenge and that hunt can really drive people in to insanity.
Whoa.. Such a creepy theory I still have shivers down my spine brrrr... After reading it and listening to the tracks. If this is TT direction for Season 2 then I love it. No matter how creepy or unsettling the theme of "losing mental health'' is, I always loved stories that dealt with that kind of themes.
By that quote I meant that Luke has feelings for Clem in a creepy pedo way. While Clem looks up to him as a role-model and slight Lee-ish figure. Him trying to make a move on Clem that ends up bad, for him or for her, who knows, and her being scarred by it. That's what I meant by what I said, hope that helps clear things up a bit.
Why put a spoiler tag for Season 1 When this is about Season 2?
dammit telltale, im getting goosebumps
I think it's a little bit more complex than that. Perhaps Luke is more attracted to her mature personality than how she is physically. In that sense he sees her as a younger sister, if she were about 10 years older, say his age, he'd probably make a move.
That is true, since she's wiser and smarter than most people in the group. Luke notices that, but the way he acts towards her is more than respect and liking. And Clem doesn't really seem to be bothered by it, maybe Clem has a small crush on him. That is normal for girls her age. But we can't really say for sure if telltale will pull out that card.
That's pretty messed up. Also, why do you keep posting links to your own threads in every other thread?
I seem to think that 'No Going Back' will apply to either the journey to Wellington, or Clementine's mental state, implying that she has gone 'over the edge' as it were.
Dude, I'm absolutely horrified by episode 4 and 5's slide music.
I don't think Clem will be alone in No Going Back. We have to make five major choices each ep with effect other characters and I don't see how that's possible going alone. Maybe depending on our choices, we can choose who to take with us for the end.
Also, I have a potential theory.
What was season 1 about? I believe protecting Clem. This premise is reflected by the fact that the last 90 minutes revolve around saving her. It was about a selfish taker of human life who became selfless and saved a little girl.
Now, what is season 2 about? Well, the one thing common between ATR and AHD is the fact that Clem is kept "in the dark" about these people. They do not trust her, no matter what anyone else says. I imagine Clem is going to learn some real nasty stuff that just makes her hate herself for trusting these people; it pushes her over the edge and makes her retreat into herself and away from humanity. She won't trust herself at all anymore. So I'd say season 2 could be about trust or ignorance. One of these two things will have an impact on the story somehow.
Some fucked up shit is gonna commence through the next 3 episodes judging by that music, or sound, or whatever the hell that scary thing is.
'Cause of the death of Ben in the episode. Ah whatever, it's spoilers anyway!
Bitch please! You call that commitment? Check this shit out.
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Uhh, I don't think this KISSAKI person is gonna like what you guys did to his thread, lol.
Same here bro. Jesus. I hope the shit that was said doesnt happen to Clem.
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I must say if even a fraction of these theories are correct I may not be able to handle the rest of this season. The episode four music reminded me of the collector ship music from Mass Effect 2. And the episode 5 music is just creepy as hell. That soundtrack, title, and slide have me so fucking scared.
My humble fan's prediction: We'll be forced to decide once and for all between Kenny or Luke at the end of episode 3, resulting in one of them dying. The rest of the cast is whittled down throughout episode 4, until it's ONLY Clem and Kenny/Luke for the duration of part 5.
Ya damn right bro. I just get bad vibes from listening to that music. I just have a bad feeling that something huge is going to happen.
I'll certainly do my best.
Maybe something that makes her wish she was dead.
True enough, bro