Carver's Community Vs Tavia's Settlement From The North

So I really wanted to talk about this Tavia's Settlement from the North.
In MY game, All of the characters from 400 Days went along with Tavia.
But now in Episode 2 Bonnie is in the Carver's Community and she is NOT Cool!
So what is this all about? Is The Carver's Community and the Tavia's one both Same? and which one Is Good ? because by first impression i really don't like Carver's people. I hope I have not done anything wrong by convincing everybody to join Tavia's Community!!

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  • edited March 2014

    I'm 100% sure Carver's group and Tavia's community are the same. Bonnie always goes with Tavia and she's always with Carver, plus she mentions a girl a little older than Clem (Becca). It's obvious. I knew there was something fishy about Tavia and her "utopia".

  • Well in that case . I don't really feel good about convincing everybody to join Tavia!
    I should have left someone behind :|

    Mr_Eeuss posted: »

    I'm 100% sure Carver's group and Tavia's community are the same. Bonnie always goes with Tavia and she's always with Carver, plus she mentio

  • OzzyUKOzzyUK Moderator

    I think its the same community as they are currently North of Gil's pitstop from 400 days, Bonnie went with Tavia no matter what so it does seem like its the same place, it did seem like a good place but Carver could have taken over as leader or it could have turned bad over time.

  • I Don't Feel So Good !!

    OzzyUK posted: »

    I think its the same community as they are currently North of Gil's pitstop from 400 days, Bonnie went with Tavia no matter what so it does

  • I agree but Becca didnt go in my playthrough and she still said that. I think Bonnie was just bullshitting that point.

    I do think they are the same place

    Mr_Eeuss posted: »

    I'm 100% sure Carver's group and Tavia's community are the same. Bonnie always goes with Tavia and she's always with Carver, plus she mentio

  • She mentioned, but it could be just a lie. She needed to say something why she is here and what she is doing.

    Mr_Eeuss posted: »

    I'm 100% sure Carver's group and Tavia's community are the same. Bonnie always goes with Tavia and she's always with Carver, plus she mentio

  • It would probably be best to have some go and some not go... Just to see both outcomes!

  • Well, Shit Then!!

    Foreigner posted: »

    She mentioned, but it could be just a lie. She needed to say something why she is here and what she is doing.

  • I should have left someone behind but now what should i do ?

    It would probably be best to have some go and some not go... Just to see both outcomes!

  • I think I'm one of the few that thinks that they're different communities. For starters, the person talking to Tavia on the radio seems friendly, and says they're trying to build a good community. It sounds nothing like Carver and I doubt he'd have someone looking for random people to be in his group, especially considering Tavia was (Presumably) unarmed. She also seemed too nice.

    In Bonnie's chapter of 400 Days, if you lie to Leland and say nothing about killing Dee, Becca later says to Bonnie, "Like Leland cared when he let you run off alone?" (Or something like that). So for all we know, maybe Bonnie ditched the people who went with Tavia to try it on her own?

    Basically, I think that Bonnie is good (Deep down) and Tavia's community isn't the same one.

  • I am hoping the same. But I think there's a long story behind this Carver's Situation. Cant wait for the Episode 3 Already!!

  • I think they are the same camps, my guess is Bonnie had found Carver's group BEFORE the end of 400 days and was sent to Vince's group as a plant to try and convince them to leave a map to them and then to automatically go with Tavia when she came to try and convince the others.

    So im guessing Bonnie is just a bad guy and the rest of the 400 days people will all be there (being held against their wills) regardless of their decisions

  • well, That's is quite complicated !
    I don't think it is that way!

    Apples posted: »

    I think they are the same camps, my guess is Bonnie had found Carver's group BEFORE the end of 400 days and was sent to Vince's group as a p

  • But that is the brilliant thing. You thought you were doing a good thing. But later you feel bad for your decision. This is what Telltale does - you are not supposed to feel good, you are supposed to feel anything.

    Well in that case . I don't really feel good about convincing everybody to join Tavia! I should have left someone behind

  • edited March 2014

    It could also be possible that Shel died in some occasion and Bonnie is taking care of Becca for her. If i'm not mistaken, Bonnie and Shel were the only two (adult) Women of 400 days (Tavia excluded)

    Well, Shit Then!!

  • Carver's Community Vs Tavia's Settlement From The North...

    I don't understand this thread, Tavia is part of Carvers group!

  • Or another

    I agree but Becca didnt go in my playthrough and she still said that. I think Bonnie was just bullshitting that point. I do think they are the same place

  • We need to know more about caver

  • CathalOHaraCathalOHara Moderator
    edited March 2014

    I'm pretty confident in saying that Tavia's group and Carver's group are one of the same. With the most powerful evidence being Bonnie herself since she will always go with Tavia no matter what.

    I also think that when you finally escape from the complex in Episode 3 you begin a war between Clementine and Carver. With the 400 Days characters who DIDN'T go with Tavia go on her side. Also I'm pretty sure they'll make a "Substitute" for it to be fair if say you have someone else on the other side. Example? Say you have Wyatt on Carver's side, than you may have Eddie on Clementine's side. And for Shel, perhaps Becca could be on Clem's. So I don't think you'd have to worry if you feel outnumbered or something or simply regret not leaving someone back. I think the group that attacked Clementine and Christa could be a group of people getting ready to take down Carver.

    AKA: I think there will be something for the characters who didn't go with Tavia. Vince is the only character who didn't go with her in my playthrough and he appeared (at one point) in the Banner for Episode 4 for me, so I'm not holding that idea an impossibility.

    Well in that case . I don't really feel good about convincing everybody to join Tavia! I should have left someone behind

  • Sadly I think they are one in the same.

  • This might be a silly question, but do walkie talkies, like the one Tavia was using have such a large range that they can be used to speak to someone in Virginia all the way from Georgia?

  • Well The point is that Are these two groups the same?
    because we don't know yet !!

    Carver's Community Vs Tavia's Settlement From The North... I don't understand this thread, Tavia is part of Carvers group!

  • it could be possible that the one she was talking to was somewhere near!! maybe trying to convince some other survivors to join them.

    Onmens posted: »

    This might be a silly question, but do walkie talkies, like the one Tavia was using have such a large range that they can be used to speak to someone in Virginia all the way from Georgia?

  • It's possible that Tavia was part of a larger scouting party so the guy she was speaking to wasn't back at "base camp".

    I definitely think Carver's group and Tavia's group are the same. Either Carver took over the group or Tavia believes he is a good leader and being part of his community is better than the alternative. I think that would be an interesting take on her character – she's seemingly a caring person but beneath it a zealous believer in Carver's authority.

    Onmens posted: »

    This might be a silly question, but do walkie talkies, like the one Tavia was using have such a large range that they can be used to speak to someone in Virginia all the way from Georgia?

  • IIRC Roman was among that group which was killed by Carver.
    So he might have tried getting back at Shel for leaving - as he said he'd find her, whereever she goes.

    CathalOHara posted: »

    I'm pretty confident in saying that Tavia's group and Carver's group are one of the same. With the most powerful evidence being Bonnie herse

  • yeah right!! Because Roman was also killed near the stream !! so it is possible that he was trying to kill Shel and Becca but was killed by Carver(meaning that Tavia's and Carver's communities are both same)

  • My guess is that Carver is trying to tighten his control of his community because of the conflict with Roman's group. I think we'll see serious divisions between Carver's loyalists and those who live there but don't like the way Carver is running things. From the sounds of his speech the cabin group aren't the first people to try to escape and it's likely that some of the people still there are sympathetic towards them.

  • Maybe it IS an utopia, but they're doing it to help Carver's revenge or something like that.

    Mr_Eeuss posted: »

    I'm 100% sure Carver's group and Tavia's community are the same. Bonnie always goes with Tavia and she's always with Carver, plus she mentio

  • edited March 2014

    It would be too obvious that Tavia's group and Carver's group are the same, unless Carver killed the leader and took over. Depending on who went with Tavia in 400days will have extra interactions with Clem in the camp, maybe even help her and the cabin crew escape.

  • Telltale loves twists, it's just like them to do something like this.

    We all thought everyone going with Tavia was the good ending, but it turned out it was the actual worst one.
    Tavia was a manipulator. She knew exactly how to pull the 400 days group's strings to get them to come willingly, by mentioning family and friends, among other things.

    It's pretty much confirmed that Tavia's community is the same as Carver's. Some guys already found her in the EP3 files.

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