Any thoughts about Luke?
For those who may read this I apologise for the overall crappiness of this post but its my first on this forum and i'm doing it on my Ipad. Anyway i'm curious about some of the opinions people have of Luke. During episode 1 and most of episode 2 it seemed that he was going to be the next Mentor/guardian to Clem but at the end of episode 2 he runs away and Carver tells the cabin group they shouldn't have followed him. So my question is does anyone else feel that Luke may not be as friendly as he appears perhaps he has a dark past similar to Alvin? I honestly want to like Luke but I don,t know if he can be trusted.
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I think Luke is a good guy. Though he is obviously hiding something (along with the cabin group). But I think I can trust him
Deep down, he knows where the fuckin' river is.
Im confused are you talking about nick?
The overall consensuses on this forum, seems to support Luke. Me on the other hand, Don't like him. I do believe you're right, saying he is Clem's next guardian. I've been saying that since he threw his creepy smile Clem's way and that's one reason, out of many, I don't like him. But to answer your question; no, I don't think we can trust him. He led the group away from Carver, and then when Carver shows up again, he runs away from his group. Not to mention him wanting to hid from Walter that Nick killed Matthew. Atleast when Nick finds out who Matthew was, he agrees that he should tell Walter what happened.
But not Luke, no, he only cares about himself. Walter invited the group in, with open arms, and Luke doesn't have the balls to admit what happened to Matthew. He just wants to cover it up like it never happens. Then he runs away from Carver. I see something wrong with that, There's more to Luke then just what we seen so far.
Well, only time will tell if Luke is a bad guy or not. But then again "First impressions aren't always lasting" so take that for what you will.
I really don't understand how Carver has convince people that Luke is a bad guy. Seriously? You going to take word from Carver, the main bad guy and might even be a sociopath. Carver seems to be sort of person to say something and twist people against their friends. Maybe Luke is a traitor, if he is then I'll be the first person to say I was mistaken. Until its proving I am not going to take Carver's word for anything.
I don't think we have any reason to not trust Luke. I mean yeah he knows more than he's told us so far but I don't think he's abandoned us. He saved us when we were a complete stranger who COULD have been working with Carver for all he knew. I think when Carver says the group shouldn't have followed him, I think he's referring to their escape. They way I see it is that Luke probably knew a few of the group before Carvers camp and befriended a few inside. He openly voiced his dislike about being in the camp or maybe Carver overheard him plotting to escape so Carver warned everyone to not even think about escaping/following Luke. Some people may have been thinking about it but decided against it after Carvers warning but Luke and co. went ahead and escaped anyway and I honestly don't think Carver would actually be too bothered about everyone else if it wasn't for the fact Rebecca and his baby went with them..
You brought up a couple of valid points I didnt even think about but yeah there is something weird going. I don,t want to find out he touches little kids or something lol.
Honestly that's what I thought too. it was about the escape. Most people jump the gun and assumed. with the bridge it seemed that Luke didn't the plan thro. If he rash things too back when they were escaping it could explain why Alvin killed George. What Carver said about Alvin killing Georgie because he doesn't like Carver make no sense to me. If you want to kill someone you go after them, no their friend.
I wouldn,t have this opinion but from where im standing it just seems he cut and run abondoning his friends as soon as the shooting started. Like I said i want to like the guy its just this whole thing is suspicious.
I don't trust him, if you don't tell me right a way what the hell is going on, you being nice ain't working. Trusting me, trusting you, it only goes to two ways... but that's just me!
Carver put out some valid points, especially when he says, "If they can't trust you, how can you trust them". That got me thinking. This guy has been up front with you about everything. He practically tells you he's after everyone, because of his baby. Heck Luke even says that, when he asks you "What is one thing everyone is looking for". And the answer was: family. The guy wants his baby back. It's true we don't know what's going on at Carver's camp. But Luke just running away from the people he "Saved" just don't sit right with me.
Luke is gone because of Kenny. Him and Kenny got in a fight because of they couldn't agree on something. Kenny told him to take a hike, Kenny doesn't care about anyone about the people who are close around him and things have to go his way. If Luke dies because of Kenny I'm seriously going to be pissed off. Kenny mention what happens to Luke if you went out to look for him and Luke.
How do you know this?
Hey I said what I was thinking. You can think whatever you want, you can't change my mind. Offically Luke isn't there because Kenny told him to take a hike. Believe what you want to believe just don't expect everyone to think the way you do.
Wait, did I miss something? Alvin has a dark past/secret? I do trust Luke, he probably did something in the past, but than again, almost everybody had.
What are you talking about? I'm not trying to convenience you of anything. Clearly I said Carver got me thinking of this. I don't expect anyone to think as I do. I was just sharing my thoughts. So, sorry if I offended you
All Kenny said was that Luke was complaining so he told him to take a hike. But Luke takes that as leave the entire group?
Ok then I'll explain... when Carver stars hurting people Clememtine, Rebecca and Alvin hide on second floor of the cabin. They start talking basically it gives you two options. 1:give up, Carver gets Rebecca 2: go outside to look for Kenny and Luke. when I was playing through I was guessing that those people were dead, so I went with option 2. Clememtine climes out of a window. she ducks past some guards and spots Kenny holding a gun from an outside picnic spot. Once you reach him he tells you that he and Luke disagreed on something and at the end of it Kenny told Luke take a hike (basically to cool it off, through he might be dead). From then on Kenny starts shooting and you can ask him stop, continue or to give up, if you went outside its easier to control Kenny's actions so Alvin doesn't die.
Yes, Carver mentions Alvin killing George just because he "didn't like him".
But as AusZombie said, Kenny said that Luke was complaining, so he told him to take a hike. But why would he leave his entire group that he saved from Carver just because Kenny told him to take a hike. Wouldn't he have just left Kenny and returned to the lodge? Why would he leave his everyone?
I really do think he is a great guy, inside and out. I think he will come back to help the group in some way.
I think Luke is a good guy but he may have a thing for getting in over his head. There is definitely something shady going on with him though. During the kitchen conversation in episode 1, he questions if the others really think Carver would come after them. Yet in episode 2, he gives Clem a clear hint on why Carver is so insistent on chasing them. So why feign innocent skepticism in front of the group? It seems only he and Rebecca know the real reason for Carver's dogged pursuit and I have a feeling Rebecca and the baby are only a part of it.
I don't think he would, everyone is convince in what Carver is saying >__>
Maybe Luke was complaining and got frustrated with Kenny he went on a walk to carm himself, he would return after he calmed himself down. during that time Carver comes to the cabin to get Rebecca. they took their prisners to their camp. Luke comes back to cabin when after it happen, he even might have been surrounded by walkers and had to wait till he return the cabin....I am just guessing here.....I don't know we will find out.
Death by tray it shall be.
Oh shit, I better pay attention next time. Come to think of it, sometimes I thought Alvin was being TO nice.
Jeff Vader?
Put yourself in Luke's shoes.
You have known Walter for less than 6 hours, and that is pushing it.
You knew Nick before the apocalypse, and you might as well be a brother to him.
Luke probably imagines what most people would do when they find out someone killed their closest friend (or in Walter's case, love interest): at the least their group would probably be kicked out. At worst, Walter would try to kill Nick.
My personal take is that if he was the one who shot Mathew, he would want to own up to it himself, but he didn't want to have his friend get thrown under the bus.
If I put myself in Luke shoes I would confess. Given that Nick himself agreed he should confess, I would support his decision being a friend. They also out number Kenny's group, so if Walter did try to hurt Nick intervening wouldn't be a problem. A man who would invite me into his home to help me, earns the right to know what happened to his loved one. Especially if it was a accident. But that just me.
For a gay guy he sure seems interested in Clem.
Are you trying to kill me rofl
I think that Luke seems like a nice guy but if it came to a situation where he had to choose to save himself or Clementine he would choose himself, on the bridge he sent Clem to attack the 2 walkers and he went for the one on its own which shows he is willing to put her in more danger, if there was a situation where he had the opportunity to give Clementine to Carver to save himself i feel he would do it.
i think he is gay because luke needs love from real men , that is why he ran lol
I don,t think he is because when you meet him on episode 1 if you are silent through a lot of the dialogue he says is an expert at talking to women who don,t want to talk to him. Im paraphrasing.
You misunderstood, sir.
You've known someone for few hours, and since most of the people (if not all) have dark sides, you shouldn't trust anyone that you've known for just five to six hours. All he was trying to say that you can't know what might happen if you confess that X killed his close friend.
That's why Luke proned to keep it a secret in order to avoid potential prospective issues.
I think the reason as to why he didn't show up to help out Clem or give up at the end of the episode is, because if he did Carver would have just killed him right there on the spot. It looks as though that Luke is the leader of the group you are with and it seems like Carver has zero tolerance for traitors amongst his family, so possibly a smart move by Luke.
I would hate to be in anybody shoes if they let Nick or Alvin kick the bucket. Luke would eventually find out about it or you would have to tell him.
Yes I understood, most people in that world do have dark past and may have done horrible things. Therefore the group shouldn't trust them, I agree with that. But given that Walter didn't show an ounce of hostility meeting the group, and was pretty genuine about inviting them into the lodge. I'd say that's enough to be truthful to the guy about his loved one, especially if the one whom shot Matthew (Nick) agrees to tell him also. I say why not tell him?
This man helped out the group, plus Nick agrees he should tell him. So I think there's no reason to lie in that situation. If Nick wants to come clean, shouldn't Luke have supported that decision? Nick was going to accept the consequences. Who is Luke to say otherwise, he wasn't the one who took the shot. Now if it was Nick trying to cover up what happened I would understand; he was the shooter after all.
And If Walter did decide to seek Justice for Matthew after Nick's confession, would he be wrong in doing so?
This is why I think it would've been wiser for Luke to argue in favor of keeping the group safe instead of just making it about Nick. That might've been enough to sway the latter from his decision. But wisdom isn't something Luke has in abundance just yet.
He meant girl talk about men over red wine and popcorn obviously.