Thanks very much guys. Clem_is_awesome, haha, I had considered it, but I remembered how annoying it was whilst I was waiting for episode 2, so just on the off-chance anyone who hasn't played the latest episode stumbles across this thread, I'll leave the spoiler tag on!
Your $5 doesnt entitled you to force them to do everything you want. Im sure they listen to criticism but they cant listen to everyone since… more every fan wants something different. I dont care how many people downvote me for trying to present a reasonable point of view.
We've paid for a game. We haven't paid for the right to dictate how that game should be made. Demanding they make changes because we don't like the story isn't reasonable either
It's possible that working on multiple games at once could the root of the issues we are seeing in Walking Dead. But that would need to be proven and not just with speculation. As the issue the root of the issue is just easily caused by the change in their focus to make shorter episodes.
I agree it is rushed and working on this much games at the same time probably is hard. Comparing this season with the first one isn't right in my opinion, since first episode was first. We didn't have high expectation. Yes, the lenght and the quality dropped but still it is a good use of 5 dollars each episode. Working on new games is really good. Because only TTG i like is TWD and TWAU. I would like to have heavier games like this instead of Sam and max or etc. They need to make more games but not at the same time. That's just a crazy thing to do. If you ask me, the 90 minute policy sucks. I wait 2 months and i don't even get 2 hours now that is fucked up. They need to do it right if they ARE going to do it. I love Telltale, seriously but they got to do something about these.
Yeah, at the time the quality of episode one of Walking Dead was an unknown. However Telltale's ability to deliver quality games with decent stories was quite well known.
I agree it is rushed and working on this much games at the same time probably is hard. Comparing this season with the first one isn't right … morein my opinion, since first episode was first. We didn't have high expectation. Yes, the lenght and the quality dropped but still it is a good use of 5 dollars each episode. Working on new games is really good. Because only TTG i like is TWD and TWAU. I would like to have heavier games like this instead of Sam and max or etc. They need to make more games but not at the same time. That's just a crazy thing to do. If you ask me, the 90 minute policy sucks. I wait 2 months and i don't even get 2 hours now that is fucked up. They need to do it right if they ARE going to do it. I love Telltale, seriously but they got to do something about these.
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It's not about that. People are suggesting changes that could make the story stronger because Telltale is inexplicably making the overall season's story weaker. So we are thinking up suggestions to make it better. Personally I am not suggesting changes because I don't like the direction of the story. I could care less where they go with the story, BUT IT HAS TO MAKE ME GIVE A CRAP.
We've paid for a game. We haven't paid for the right to dictate how that game should be made. Demanding they make changes because we don't l… moreike the story isn't reasonable either
It's possible that working on multiple games at once could the root of the issues we are seeing in Walking Dead. But that would need to be proven and not just with speculation. As the issue the root of the issue is just easily caused by the change in their focus to make shorter episodes.
People are suggesting changes which they believe would make it stronger. That doesn't mean those changes would make it stronger. I personally believe the story has been weaker in season two but I'm also well aware that this just my opinion.
It's not about that. People are suggesting changes that could make the story stronger because Telltale is inexplicably making the overall se… moreason's story weaker. So we are thinking up suggestions to make it better. Personally I am not suggesting changes because I don't like the direction of the story. I could care less where they go with the story, BUT IT HAS TO MAKE ME GIVE A CRAP.
True, suggestions to change the story really are just "this is my opinion of how the story would be better". But wasn't that the point of using the episodic model? So fans would have the chance to say "This is my reaction" and then the writers can be like "k so we have to do this to make it better"
edit: my comments are always cut off at the end >.<
People are suggesting changes which they believe would make it stronger. That doesn't mean those changes would make it stronger. I personally believe the story has been weaker in season two but I'm also well aware that this just my opinion.
I agree with some of your points, but stop bitching goddamn yall act like lil kids. you don't like it go work for telltale since yall can do a better job then. or just as simple.... Don't buy the fucking game anymore
Clem pretty much overthrows the entire camp herself. An 11 year old. They could have made it more realistic if she just worked together with… more Luke over the walkie talkie, you know... what we actually thought we were going to do when he asked us to get him the walkie talkie. I think that was the original plan but they said "fuck it" in the middle of it. It feels like they get these ideas they want to execute but only do it in half. Like you get Kenny to cut his restraints at the beginning but it turned out to be for nothing. You get called up to Carver's office where you can side with him but nothing comes out of that either. Apart from getting Luke the walkie talkie he asks you to tell the group that he's back but when you're back with them he already told them, wtf is up with that? I'm sure if i look deeper i can find more stuff like this but i don't have the motivation to play this episode right now, even though i replayed the shit out of 1 and 2.
I only hope that if we complain enough we have chance to get atleast proper interactions with 400 days people (hell i'll be fine even if the'll be forced into next episodes no matter what you did in DLC, they're so many thins can be going on with them)
I think they've perhaps suggested that part of that is part of the episodic model But I think it's more along the lines we like this do more of this rather than this is the how the plot should be.
True, suggestions to change the story really are just "this is my opinion of how the story would be better". But wasn't that the point of us… moreing the episodic model? So fans would have the chance to say "This is my reaction" and then the writers can be like "k so we have to do this to make it better"
edit: my comments are always cut off at the end >.<
Even people on Facebook are complaining about the length: ---> facebook.com/telltalegames/photos/a.402424398596.179515.11530858596/10152111371263597/?type=1
GOUSTTTT is a nice guy, dont hold anything against him. As much as downvotes expresses disagreement it also is an instrument for trolls(you will notice there would be a downvotes on a sentence that is not oppinion). IT really is best to just ignore it all together for one because it could be a troll and for two..Who cares XD.
I want to ask, who actually wanted TOTBL or GOT Telltale games? And more importantly, why are they being made while they have 2 other currently running games? Couldn't they have seen the consequences of having people work on other things mid-season?
I want to ask, who actually wanted TOTBL or GOT Telltale games? And more importantly, why are they being made while they have 2 other currently running games? Couldn't they have seen the consequences of having people work on other things mid-season?
Cant wait for the GOT game but could careless about TOTBL. I would rather just play boarder lands than a ttg gameplay styled BL, sounds like a lame excuse for money Im not even going to touch it -.-.
I can see a GOT game working well since they have 3000 years worth of lore to work with for the story but I would rather just watch the HBO show or read the book if their just going to make episodes as short as season 2 of TWD episodes.
I want to ask, who actually wanted TOTBL or GOT Telltale games? And more importantly, why are they being made while they have 2 other currently running games? Couldn't they have seen the consequences of having people work on other things mid-season?
Who wanted a Wallace & Gromit game? Who wanted a Back to the Future Game? I'll not list their entire back catalogue but you can make exactly the same question of Walking Dead & Wolf Among Us.
I want to ask, who actually wanted TOTBL or GOT Telltale games? And more importantly, why are they being made while they have 2 other currently running games? Couldn't they have seen the consequences of having people work on other things mid-season?
I just thought I post something here that's relevant to Carver and how choices matter.
In the office when talking to Carver it would be interesting if he asked Clem who her caretaker was, since he knows that Clem was never a part of the cabin group before. Here's your choices...
a) There was this man named Lee.
b) A woman named Christa.
c) It doesn't matter.
d) ...
If you choose a) Clem would describe Lee to Carver, and depending your actions when being as Lee, her description of his character is different, with Carver either liking the sound of him or say he's "interesting". For b) she will talk about Christa and learn about the baby a little, and if you mentioned Christa back at the Cabin, Carver will make note of that. If it's c) Carver tells Clem that everything matters, the choices those people made influenced her, mad her strong. For d) Carver will respond that she's gotta learn to speak up if she wants to fit in.
Yeah just something I felt would've made the office scene more interesting.
Agreed with Morninglightmountain here. When The Walking Dead was first announced, the then Telltale fanbase was seriously underwhelmed. But even they knew that Telltale couldn't go on making Seasons for the same franchise again and again. The company catches the rising stars among the franchises and will silently abandon them when they sink. It was always like that - and will always be like that.
As to the idea that TftB or GoT "are being made" while two other series are running, please refer to my previous post in this thread. The Telltale franchise pipeline is huge and could comprise two dozen franchises easily, most of which we don't know about. There are concepts for an infinite amount of Telltale games and there's always work on their engine. All this must happen while other games are in active development. Telltale can't just begin a totally new conceptual stage once one Season is done. Their games would be released several years apart.
I want to ask, who actually wanted TOTBL or GOT Telltale games? And more importantly, why are they being made while they have 2 other currently running games? Couldn't they have seen the consequences of having people work on other things mid-season?
I couldn't give less of a rat's ass about Borderlands, but Game of Thrones is a perfect fit for Telltale and I can't wait to play it. I just wish it was based on the Song of Ice and Fire books and not the TV show.
On the other hand, I'd be much more excited about it if I thought it would resemble the gameplay and length of TWD Season 1 rather than TWD Season 2.
I want to ask, who actually wanted TOTBL or GOT Telltale games? And more importantly, why are they being made while they have 2 other currently running games? Couldn't they have seen the consequences of having people work on other things mid-season?
Maybe Im a huge dumbass who's overlooking a lot but I think this was the best episode in recent memory, You cant just say its bad because it dropped story arks. The game isnt done yet when it is if they still havent completed those arks, then you can whine about it.
Even people on Facebook are complaining about the length: ---> facebook.com/telltalegames/photos/a.402424398596.179515.11530858596/10152111371263597/?type=1
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It's possible that working on multiple games at once could the root of the issues we are seeing in Walking Dead. But that would need to be proven and not just with speculation. As the issue the root of the issue is just easily caused by the change in their focus to make shorter episodes.
edit: my comments are always cut off at the end >.<
It's not hard people.
Also GOT, as they put it, is their "dream project". I personally can't wait for it.
I can see a GOT game working well since they have 3000 years worth of lore to work with for the story but I would rather just watch the HBO show or read the book if their just going to make episodes as short as season 2 of TWD episodes.
In the office when talking to Carver it would be interesting if he asked Clem who her caretaker was, since he knows that Clem was never a part of the cabin group before. Here's your choices...
a) There was this man named Lee.
b) A woman named Christa.
c) It doesn't matter.
d) ...
If you choose a) Clem would describe Lee to Carver, and depending your actions when being as Lee, her description of his character is different, with Carver either liking the sound of him or say he's "interesting". For b) she will talk about Christa and learn about the baby a little, and if you mentioned Christa back at the Cabin, Carver will make note of that. If it's c) Carver tells Clem that everything matters, the choices those people made influenced her, mad her strong. For d) Carver will respond that she's gotta learn to speak up if she wants to fit in.
Yeah just something I felt would've made the office scene more interesting.
As to the idea that TftB or GoT "are being made" while two other series are running, please refer to my previous post in this thread. The Telltale franchise pipeline is huge and could comprise two dozen franchises easily, most of which we don't know about. There are concepts for an infinite amount of Telltale games and there's always work on their engine. All this must happen while other games are in active development. Telltale can't just begin a totally new conceptual stage once one Season is done. Their games would be released several years apart.
On the other hand, I'd be much more excited about it if I thought it would resemble the gameplay and length of TWD Season 1 rather than TWD Season 2.
Hahaha :-D