If you do 4 compressions on Larry, I think its 4, Larry would take a breathe before Kenny dropped the salt lick on him. Larry would've survived. And in this case if you did manage to revive him, Kenny killed a living person. So idk, I hated Larry but I didn't like Kenny in S1 either so...
Because nobody knew if he was going to die or not. Nobody checked his pulse IIRC, and it wasn't definitive that he was actually dead. I love… more Kenny, but it exemplifies how rash he is in his decisions, and then if you don't help him with killing Larry he pretty much holds it over your head for the rest of the game.
Because nobody knew if he was going to die or not. Nobody checked his pulse IIRC, and it wasn't definitive that he was actually dead. I love… more Kenny, but it exemplifies how rash he is in his decisions, and then if you don't help him with killing Larry he pretty much holds it over your head for the rest of the game.
in that scenerio larry doesnt "take a breath" his lip more so quivers so it looks like he is waking up, but it was left more open ended so that could have been larry reanimating or actually waking up...but we will never know ;)
If you do 4 compressions on Larry, I think its 4, Larry would take a breathe before Kenny dropped the salt lick on him. Larry would've survi… moreved. And in this case if you did manage to revive him, Kenny killed a living person. So idk, I hated Larry but I didn't like Kenny in S1 either so...
I dont hate him for doing it (even though i thought it was kind of rash with no thought put into anyone else's opinion) I hate him for his annoying attitude about it. Every time after that despite him helping him previously he left me to die and acted like he was the only one to do anything, he never even slightly admitted he may have been a bit unjust about it.
I think what people ACTUALLY have a problem with is Kenny being an unjustifiably unreasonable jerk and repeatedly leaving Lee to die for no other reason than not wanting to kill Larry, something Kenny can do just fine on his own.
Larry wanted to kill the entire group to begin with by not letting them into the pharmacy. Once they are all inside he wanted to murder duck and only stops after he collapses. I was already annoyed that I had to look for medicine to help that piece of shit, but then as soon as he's back on his feet he punches Lee in the face in an attempt to murder him. The only reason it doesn't succeed is because Kenny comes back for him. Then as soon as I start episode two I give food to Clem, Duck, and Carly and Kenny comes up to Lee and tells him he's okay with not getting any food because Lee took care of the kids "and that's what a real man does", and immediately after Kenny says that I hear Larry yelling "where's my food!". I would have taken Larry out in the woods and shot him if I had been given the choice to do so at the end of episode one. Larry was a worthless scumbag in my opinion and I he was huge compared to Lee and Kenny. It would have been very hard to kill him if he had turned in such a small room without any good weapons.
Even with all of that I still hesitated a moment when it came time to decide to kill him. It happened so suddenly and I didn't like having to do it in front of Clementine and while having to hold Lilly back in such a gruesome manner, but I still it did because I felt it was the right thing to do under those circumstances. I can understand people not killing him under those circumstances when you don't have much time to think things through, but I don't understand why people don't understand the kind of man Larry was.
Larry wanted to kill the entire group to begin with by not letting them into the pharmacy. Once they are all inside he wanted to murder duck and only stops after he collapses. I was already annoyed that I had to look for medicine to help that piece of shit, but then as soon as he's back on his feet he punches Lee in the face in an attempt to murder him. The only reason it doesn't succeed is because Kenny comes back for him. Then as soon as I start episode two I give food to Clem, Duck, and Carly and Kenny comes up to Lee and tells him he's okay with not getting any food because Lee took care of the kids "and that's what a real man does", and immediately after Kenny says this I hear Larry yelling "where's my food!". I would have taken Larry out in the woods and shot him if I had been given the choice to do so at the end of episode one. Larry was a worthless scumbag in my opinion and he was huge compared to Lee and Kenny. It would have been very hard to kill him if he had turned in such a small room without any good weapons.
Even with all of that I still hesitated a moment when it came time to decide to kill him. It happened so suddenly and I didn't like having to do it in front of Clementine and while having to hold Lilly back as his head is smashed in such a gruesome manner, but I still did it because I felt it was the right thing to do under those circumstances. I can understand people not killing him under those circumstances when you don't have much time to think things through, but I don't understand why people defend their choice by trying to paint Larry as the victim. Everyone in that room was more of a victim than Larry. Lee and Kenny just did what had to be done after Larry once again collapses after going into a violent rant.
Exactly. Kenny may have been too rash, but there was no chance of saving Larry, and if he turned, then Clem, Lilly, Lee,and Kenny were in da… morenger of getting bit/eaten. I mean, they were locked inside. Now Carley, Carley was perfectly healthy and in no danger of dying or becoming a walker. As far as I'm concerned, Lilly shot Carley because she got her panties in a twist over what Carley said to her ("You play tough, but you're just a scared little girl, get over it" etc). THAT is morally wrong and inexcusable, no matter how you look at it.
Larry was DEAD.
CPR doesn't work like it does in the movies. You can't just perform CPR for a few minutes and then the victim wakes up, totally lucid with no damage whatsoever.
Without a heart starter or defibrillator there was no way Larry was walking out of there.
I understand why Lily didn't want to do it, and to be honest I tried to help Lily, because I felt that's what Lee would do in that situation. But that doesn't change the fact that Kenny was right.
Larry the shithead on the other hand, wanted to kill a KID, because he was covered in fucking muck.
It's the right thing to do. There was a possible chance to save someones life at the risk of yours and Kenny would've rather crushed his head with a saltlick. It all depends on your point of view. I saw what Kenny did as pretty fucked up, but others would say he saved their lives.
But...but...dafuq? CPR kind of does work like that. If your patient is not breathing, CPR can restore his breathing. (Plus, if you help to try and bring him back to life, you can see Larry slightly move at the fourth CPR pump).
Larry was DEAD.
CPR doesn't work like it does in the movies. You can't just perform CPR for a few minutes and then the victim wakes up, to… moretally lucid with no damage whatsoever.
Without a heart starter or defibrillator there was no way Larry was walking out of there.
I understand why Lily didn't want to do it, and to be honest I tried to help Lily, because I felt that's what Lee would do in that situation. But that doesn't change the fact that Kenny was right.
Larry the shithead on the other hand, wanted to kill a KID, because he was covered in fucking muck.
He was an asshole, and I don't miss him.
No, you can keep his heart beating until someone arrives with a heart starter or defibrillator. CPR alone is not enough to get the heart working again.
Only situation where CPR can "revive" a person is if they've been close to drowning, even then it's unlikely. And they certainly wont wake up as lucid as they do in movies.
If you really was about to wake up because of the CPR, that's because the writing is medically incorrect, like most Hollywood movies. If this was real life, CPR wouldn't have saved him.
But...but...dafuq? CPR kind of does work like that. If your patient is not breathing, CPR can restore his breathing. (Plus, if you help to try and bring him back to life, you can see Larry slightly move at the fourth CPR pump).
He didn't just punch Lee in the face. He punched Lee in the face as he's being chased by walkers with intent of murdering him. I also hesitated because Clem could see what was happening, but it felt like the only choice.
There are 2 reasons why I didn't want to kill Larry.
1. I intended to save him just so I could punch HIM in the face. Then we'd be even… more.
What's the second reaso-- OH YEAH!
2. Clementine was right there in the meat locker. I didn't want her to see that shit...
*+16 months later...*
"No, I'm not going anywhere".
Read what I said. I didn't say it brings him back to life, it RESTORES breathing. If the patient isn't breathing, CPR is a good way to get him to breath again. There was no solid proof that Larry had completely died.
No, you can keep his heart beating until someone arrives with a heart starter or defibrillator. CPR alone is not enough to get the heart wor… moreking again.
Only situation where CPR can "revive" a person is if they've been close to drowning, even then it's unlikely. And they certainly wont wake up as lucid as they do in movies.
If you really was about to wake up because of the CPR, that's because the writing is medically incorrect, like most Hollywood movies. If this was real life, CPR wouldn't have saved him.
CPR oxygenates the system and keeps the heart bearting. Larry fell over due to a HEART attack, he didn't just stop breathing. Why do you think he stopped breathing? His heart wasn't beating. It is extremely unlikely that performing CPR without using a defibrillator to get the heart back in rythm would restore him.
In a situation like that, someone falling over from a heart attack, with no access to medical help at all. Yeah, he was dead.
A lot of people don't know how CPR works, because of how it's displayed in movies. CPR is NOT used for restoring or reviving people, but rather to keep them alive and prevent brain damage until professional help arrives.
Read what I said. I didn't say it brings him back to life, it RESTORES breathing. If the patient isn't breathing, CPR is a good way to get him to breath again. There was no solid proof that Larry had completely died.
Kenny was lashing out because his son was dying. Kenny is the only character in the game that never questions Lee's role with Clementine. From the beginning he understands Lee's motivations. He immediately see's that Lee will do anything for Clem because he views their relationship to be no different than his and Duck's. I always liked that about him.
One of the worse things he's ever done (in my opinion) was saying this to you almost immediately on the train in Episode 3: "I'm tryna' to protect a REAL family here. Not that fuckin' SHAM you're runnin' back there".
Logically, he should have held the salt lick over Larry's head. We know that when people reanimate into zombies, they look different, no matter how short a time it took to turn (e.g. the walker who attacked Katjaa after trying to heal him).
Ergo, it would have been obvious if he was turning into a zombie, ergo he would have had time to drop it on his head when he looked different, ergo he made a non-logical choice and murdered Larry.
Now, I understand WHY he did it - he wasn't thinking straight because his wife and son were being held hostage - but that doesn't make it 'logical'. Much less so, in fact.
Lilly checked his pulse and said that she didn't feel anything. She also said that he wasn't breathing. I can't see why people could hate hi… morem for Larry, because logically speaking he did the correct thing. However, I can understand hating him for leaving you to die because you didn't help him. That's a shitty move right there, Ken.
Larry only moves his mouth if you press on his chest enough times. There is no reason why reanimation would be speeded up by the pressing, nor has that ever been shown in the Walking Dead Universe.
He was waking up. Kenny made a hasty decision - an understandable one - but one that wads ultimately incorrect, and could have been handled better by holding it over his head instead of dropping it immediately.
in that scenerio larry doesnt "take a breath" his lip more so quivers so it looks like he is waking up, but it was left more open ended so that could have been larry reanimating or actually waking up...but we will never know ;)
No he wasn't. If you press on his chest enough times, he breathes, This does not happen if you don't press enough, and reanimation isn't speeded up by pressing on the victim. Ergo, he must have been waking up.
Because almost getting killed by Larry wasn't enough for people to start disliking him.
My best guess is that they are either very "moral" persons or just wanted their game character to hit on Lilly by saving her father.
You've always been there for me Lee, always had my back when it mattered. What kind of friend would I be if I wasn't there for you now? You and Clem are the only family I have left. I'm with you to the end. You can count on me." —Kenny words to Lee
I didn't hate Kenny for killing Larry, I just thought it was a really rash move. Larry just took a breath and looked like he was about to open his eyes when Kenny drops this massive salt lick on top of his face. If the roles had been reversed and Lilly had done that to Katja or Duck, you know Kenny probably would've snapped and killed Lilly right there.
I get the arguments for why Kenny did what he did, but ultimately would it of really hurt anybody if he just held that salt lick over Larry's head for maybe 2 more seconds? I love Kenny as much as the next guy, but he really is kind of a cowboy.
Because Kenny could have just held the salt lick over Larry's head if he had turned. If he was alive? Well, no need to drop it. Maybe if Lily had tried mouth-to-mouth I'd have been more in a hurry to drag her away. The problem is Kenny straight up just crushes Larry's head instead of hanging it over him.
But I don't think people hate that decision so much as Kenny's constant tantrums if you don't follow everything he does like a puppy so-eager to appease him. If you disagree with anything Lee will never hear the end of it and though I was pretty 50/50 on when I sided with him by Savanna I was losing patience.
No he didn't do the right thing logically.
Logically, he should have held the salt lick over Larry's head. We know that when people rea… morenimate into zombies, they look different, no matter how short a time it took to turn (e.g. the walker who attacked Katjaa after trying to heal him).
Ergo, it would have been obvious if he was turning into a zombie, ergo he would have had time to drop it on his head when he looked different, ergo he made a non-logical choice and murdered Larry.
Now, I understand WHY he did it - he wasn't thinking straight because his wife and son were being held hostage - but that doesn't make it 'logical'. Much less so, in fact.
No he wasn't. If you press on his chest enough times, he breathes, This does not happen if you don't press enough, and reanimation isn't speeded up by pressing on the victim. Ergo, he must have been waking up.
They have, but when they do they look visibly different. Therefore, there would be no risk by just holding the salt lick over Larry and dropping ti at the first sign of him changing.
They have, but when they do they look visibly different. Therefore, there would be no risk by just holding the salt lick over Larry and dropping ti at the first sign of him changing.
All this discussion about Kenny and how he's able to provoke so many different emotional responses from people is why I think he's one of the best characters in this game. He's definitely the character I've had the most ups and downs with over the entire story so far. I hated him for being a dick to me for not helping to kill Larry, I've agreed on some of his decisions and disagreed with others. We've been through the worst together, even tried to save someone he hated (although we know the real reason behind that), and he's been there for the most part so I trust him.
The one thing that's consistent with me about Kenny is that even though I may agree with some of his choices, I don't like the way he's goes about doing them. He's the man with ideas but never the man with the plan, so that's why it's up to us to help steer him in the right direction.
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Even with all of that I still hesitated a moment when it came time to decide to kill him. It happened so suddenly and I didn't like having to do it in front of Clementine and while having to hold Lilly back in such a gruesome manner, but I still it did because I felt it was the right thing to do under those circumstances. I can understand people not killing him under those circumstances when you don't have much time to think things through, but I don't understand why people don't understand the kind of man Larry was.
Even with all of that I still hesitated a moment when it came time to decide to kill him. It happened so suddenly and I didn't like having to do it in front of Clementine and while having to hold Lilly back as his head is smashed in such a gruesome manner, but I still did it because I felt it was the right thing to do under those circumstances. I can understand people not killing him under those circumstances when you don't have much time to think things through, but I don't understand why people defend their choice by trying to paint Larry as the victim. Everyone in that room was more of a victim than Larry. Lee and Kenny just did what had to be done after Larry once again collapses after going into a violent rant.
CPR doesn't work like it does in the movies. You can't just perform CPR for a few minutes and then the victim wakes up, totally lucid with no damage whatsoever.
Without a heart starter or defibrillator there was no way Larry was walking out of there.
I understand why Lily didn't want to do it, and to be honest I tried to help Lily, because I felt that's what Lee would do in that situation. But that doesn't change the fact that Kenny was right.
Larry the shithead on the other hand, wanted to kill a KID, because he was covered in fucking muck.
He was an asshole, and I don't miss him.
Only situation where CPR can "revive" a person is if they've been close to drowning, even then it's unlikely. And they certainly wont wake up as lucid as they do in movies.
If you really was about to wake up because of the CPR, that's because the writing is medically incorrect, like most Hollywood movies. If this was real life, CPR wouldn't have saved him.
In a situation like that, someone falling over from a heart attack, with no access to medical help at all. Yeah, he was dead.
A lot of people don't know how CPR works, because of how it's displayed in movies. CPR is NOT used for restoring or reviving people, but rather to keep them alive and prevent brain damage until professional help arrives.
Logically, he should have held the salt lick over Larry's head. We know that when people reanimate into zombies, they look different, no matter how short a time it took to turn (e.g. the walker who attacked Katjaa after trying to heal him).
Ergo, it would have been obvious if he was turning into a zombie, ergo he would have had time to drop it on his head when he looked different, ergo he made a non-logical choice and murdered Larry.
Now, I understand WHY he did it - he wasn't thinking straight because his wife and son were being held hostage - but that doesn't make it 'logical'. Much less so, in fact.
Larry only moves his mouth if you press on his chest enough times. There is no reason why reanimation would be speeded up by the pressing, nor has that ever been shown in the Walking Dead Universe.
He was waking up. Kenny made a hasty decision - an understandable one - but one that wads ultimately incorrect, and could have been handled better by holding it over his head instead of dropping it immediately.
I can assure you, my lee hated Larry and was not attracted to Lilly.
Larry was an ass hole but definitely not a racist
I get the arguments for why Kenny did what he did, but ultimately would it of really hurt anybody if he just held that salt lick over Larry's head for maybe 2 more seconds? I love Kenny as much as the next guy, but he really is kind of a cowboy.
But I don't think people hate that decision so much as Kenny's constant tantrums if you don't follow everything he does like a puppy so-eager to appease him. If you disagree with anything Lee will never hear the end of it and though I was pretty 50/50 on when I sided with him by Savanna I was losing patience.
Kenny apologist downvotes incoming.
The one thing that's consistent with me about Kenny is that even though I may agree with some of his choices, I don't like the way he's goes about doing them. He's the man with ideas but never the man with the plan, so that's why it's up to us to help steer him in the right direction.