Kenny over-shadowing Luke

So, as season 2 starts, we grow really fond of Luke. We're around him a lot, ect ect. But now that they've brought back Kenny, he's kinda over-shadowing Luke, and basically everyone else. Maybe it's because I'm a hardcore Luke fan, even though I'm STILL a hardcore Kenny fan, but we need more time with Luke, dialogue, going on runs, finding Sarah, ect.

And If you think about it, Sarita's dying either way. Don't chop off her hand? Infection is already spreading. Chop it off? Walker blood on the hatchet then goes into her blood stream and the infection is already spreading. So, that's where Kenny has his depressed state again, and this might be Telltale's way of killing him off.
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  • speak for yourself. I didn't grow fond of Luke at all.He came off as the anti-Lee to me in episode 2. He put Clem in danger more than anyone.
    EXAMPLE, There's a stranger on a bridge with walking towards you. Only a coward tells a little girl to do all the talking , because he dont wanna fight.
    He could have climbed the tower, but makes Clem do it.Tries to make you lie to Walter, and hide evidence . I glad he's getting over shadowed . I don't even want him around my Clem.
  • Bow down to the Mustache bitches.
  • I interpreted him having Clementine talk as a way to appear less hostile/threatening to Matthew.
    Cowpie posted: »

    speak for yourself. I didn't grow fond of Luke at all.He came off as the anti-Lee to me in episode 2. He put Clem in danger more than anyon

  • First off, the bridge thing? He told her to speak because really, would he shoot a little girl? He got Clementine to climb the tower because the PLOT DEMANDS IT. It was all a setup so she could come running to see Kenny. And plus, she had the binoculars, not him. He wanted her to hide it so there was no shit starting. But, it is your opinion, and I respect that. But my opinion is that I want him around Clementine more than anyone else besides Kenny.
    Cowpie posted: »

    speak for yourself. I didn't grow fond of Luke at all.He came off as the anti-Lee to me in episode 2. He put Clem in danger more than anyon

  • There a few things that I dislike about him, but overall I love him, he's a pretty good dude. Though, yes, Kenny is overshadowing a bit... it's a shame, people can't see Luke for the good guy he is all because when Kenny came back Luke lost all of the credibility he may have had.
  • Agreed. Kenny kind of needs to step it down a bit, or at least Luke jump back in it again.
    _Juice_Box_ posted: »

    There a few things that I dislike about him, but overall I love him, he's a pretty good dude. Though, yes, Kenny is overshadowing a bit... i

  • Let's be real here, having Clementine do the talking was probably for the best. Having Clementine do the EVERYTHING is for the best.

    But yeah, he chose her to talk because she's much less threatening. It was actually a smart decision. Having her talk didn't put her in any more danger than having her not talk, really. They were already in the situation. I assume she climbs the ladder because she's smaller so he can spot her whereas it's not possible the other way around (yeah he leaves her but to be fair he probably thought a firefight was about to go down. Plus, Telltale wanted an exciting reveal).

    He made you lie to Walter to keep EVERYONE safe and honestly I see why he did. Telling Walter the truth was an incredibly risky move (before we found out that he knew anyways, at least). You don't know that guy and he could have easily gone on a rampage if you told him. Luke was trying to protect Nick and the rest of the group.

    At this point I trust Luke more than Kenny, but mostly because Kenny is way too impulsive and is kind of losing it a little. He cares for Clementine, but he is a dangerous man. Sarita may have not recognized the Kenny that beat in Carver's face but I sure did.

    I hope they both become more important but I suspect it will happen through a power struggle between the two. Cliche and predictable as it is.
    Cowpie posted: »

    speak for yourself. I didn't grow fond of Luke at all.He came off as the anti-Lee to me in episode 2. He put Clem in danger more than anyon

  • Honestly, Kenny needs to step down and let EVERYONE jump back in. There was already an issue of us not knowing the new characters well enough and Kenny's return and huge role just makes it worse. We already know Kenny and the path he's going down was something one could predict even from the first season. So I just hope we get more of the others now, especially since there's so much mystery about them and about the circumstances of them leaving Carver's camp.

    Agreed. Kenny kind of needs to step it down a bit, or at least Luke jump back in it again.

  • A real man would say. "Clem stand behind me, i got this. Someone with no ball puts a little out front and says , you do all the talking.

    I interpreted him having Clementine talk as a way to appear less hostile/threatening to Matthew.

  • edited May 2014
    I think Kenny is a more important character than Luke, not to mention the reason we're seeing Kenny more than Luke is because Kenny is...how do I put this...Louder than Luke? Kenny isn't afraid to speak his mind and is a take charge kind of guy, while Luke tends to stay to the sidelines (cough take hikes cough) and think before acting, which makes his screentime suffer.

    As I've said before in a previous post they still need to show how Kenny handles Sarita's death in Episode 4, and I'm still holding out hope for a Kenny or Luke choice in EP5 so people don't complain that we're stuck with Kenny/Luke for another season and both categories of TWDG fans can get what they want.
  • My Mother watches me play this game and she even agreed that Kenny over-shadowed everyone this episode except for maybe Clem. But Gavin Hammon's performance was pretty marvelous so you can't be disappointed.
  • edited May 2014
    Well he did say that if Matthew tries anything then he'll shoot him and when Nick and Matthew are having a stand off, when Nick fires his gun, Luke shields Clem with his body which shows that he's willing to take a bullet for her. All Luke wanted to do was try to avoid a hostile situation so he doesn't have to put Clem in more trouble than she needs to be.
    Cowpie posted: »

    A real man would say. "Clem stand behind me, i got this. Someone with no ball puts a little out front and says , you do all the talking.

  • Yeah I wish EP.3 fleshed the others out more, it was definitely the right episode to do so, but Kenny's growing mental instability is an interesting turn in his character arc
    Rynna posted: »

    Honestly, Kenny needs to step down and let EVERYONE jump back in. There was already an issue of us not knowing the new characters well enoug

  • edited May 2014
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    After Luke told Clem he won't help her in case he gets into trouble my reaction ^

    Would Lee like Luke the person who left Clem to die in a shed refusing to help her because he might get into trouble. Would Lee ever let Clem lead the attack against the walkers on the bridge. Would Lee make Clem do all the talking on the bridge the point I'm making is some people can't get past his pretty face lol but when you look at it from neutral point of view just judging from his actions Luke is actually an assh*** while appearing nice a wolf in sheep's clothing in my personal opinion R.I.P Luke
  • The thing about a Kenny or Luke choice is that it's not fair for Luke. We hardly know anything about him while Kenny is like an open book to us. Especially now that Kenny had the spotlight in Episode 3 while Luke did next to nothing. Kenny also had all the important parts in Episode 3 and the bond between him and Clem grew even stronger. On top of that, Episode 1 gave us a horrible first impressions. Choosing between Kenny and Luke is like choosing between family and an acquaintance. If Telltale does do a choice like that then it's going to be the Carley or Doug choice all over again which Telltale has said that they want to avoid a huge majority on one side when picking between two people.
    Dragonleaf posted: »

    I think Kenny is a more important character than Luke, not to mention the reason we're seeing Kenny more than Luke is because Kenny is...how

  • edited May 2014
    You do know that Luke convinced the group to let Clem out of the shed before morning, right? Also you do know that Lee brought 8 year old Clem into an abandoned train station that had 3 walkers and it was pitch black (just like the bridge had 3 walkers, but at least in a bridge it's more spacious and you can see walkers from a distance). Making Clem do the talking was a smart idea just like how Clem talked Molly into helping her, Lee, and Kenny out of the alley in Season 1. Did you forget Luke was ready to shoot Matthew if he tried anything and when Nick fires at Luke and Clem, Luke shields Clem with his body which shows that he's willing to take a bullet for her.
    Markd4547 posted: »

    dc664.4shared.com/img/TOiiIMrY/s7/13eee3df148/very_poor_choice_of_words.gif After Luke told Clem he won't help her in case he gets into

  • Yep! Plus, let's not act like Luke is the most willing to let Clementine do all the dangerous work. In this recent episode, he was one of the only ones who looked at everybody like they were crazy when they wanted Clem to deal with the PA system and he was really upset if Clem chooses to stay and watch Kenny and Carver.

    If Luke has a flaw, it's not so much putting Clementine in danger as not speaking up the way he should when the rest of the group lets her put herself in danger. He's not quite the full-on leader type though I suspect he'll try to be now that Carlos is gone.

    You do know that Luke convinced the group to let Clem out of the shed before morning, right? Also you do know that Lee brought 8 year old Cl

  • Exactly! At this point, choosing Luke over Kenny would be more because I don't like or fully trust Kenny than because I really like Luke more. If they want that to be a choice, we really have to get closer to these characters next episode. I hope there's a little bit of time to let the dust settle and really go around and talk to the characters like in episode 1 of Season 1.

    The thing about a Kenny or Luke choice is that it's not fair for Luke. We hardly know anything about him while Kenny is like an open book to

  • I know Kenny for example would not of looked for approval his main concern will be saving that little girl no matter the consequence or reaction of the group.

    You do know that Luke convinced the group to let Clem out of the shed before morning, right? Also you do know that Lee brought 8 year old Cl

  • I wouldn't look to Kenny as the shining beacon of smart and reliable choices.
    Markd4547 posted: »

    I know Kenny for example would not of looked for approval his main concern will be saving that little girl no matter the consequence or reaction of the group.

  • edited May 2014
    It's up for speculation. I could say that Kenny didn't want to give Bonnie the whole box of food and let her walk away which could have (and did) put the group in danger of attacks since Bonnie (who Kenny didn't know) could have told her group that they had a lot of food and invaded the lodge, but he was overruled by Walter. If Kenny was apart of the cabin group who were paranoid about Carver coming after them with the fear of oppression or even death and saw an unknown little girl with bite that could have been a scouter for Carver (since Carver has kids in his camp like Becca), who knows what he would've done. Especially if he *didn't* know Clem and saw her as a stranger.
    Markd4547 posted: »

    I know Kenny for example would not of looked for approval his main concern will be saving that little girl no matter the consequence or reaction of the group.

  • Agreed but in terms of that decision only Lee I would trust with Clem but his gone :'(
    Rynna posted: »

    I wouldn't look to Kenny as the shining beacon of smart and reliable choices.

  • Only Lee indeed! Well, to be fair the way I played my Lee was purely "protect Clementine" whereas Kenny and Luke have others to worry about too, particularly Luke who hasn't known her for very long.

    I feel like Clementine is the group protector more than anyone haha! Kenny and Luke have their moments but Clem is the one who really gets everyone out of hairy situations.
    Markd4547 posted: »

    Agreed but in terms of that decision only Lee I would trust with Clem but his gone :'(

  • edited May 2014
    So you would rather have him fight and possibly get you or Luke shot than talk and be diplomatic? Wow. Luke was being smart: talking is hardly the most dangerous option, in fact, its the SAFEST option. Tell me how conversing with the man is more dangerous than shooting at him, threatening him, or running away from a man with a gun? Didn't think so.

    He had Clem climb a LADDER? A LADDER!? Oh Lord Jesus, not the ladder! Next time, we shouldn't send the girl with the binoculars up the ladder. Let's not forget that if Luke falls, Clem can totally catch him!

    OF COURSE! He is protecting NICK! Walter would have killed Nick if Clem didn't first come to him! Imagine if Clem wasn't there and Nick was alone. Walter would have slit his throat.
    Cowpie posted: »

    speak for yourself. I didn't grow fond of Luke at all.He came off as the anti-Lee to me in episode 2. He put Clem in danger more than anyon

  • Luke was agaisnt sending Clementine to sneak around Carvers camp at night cause he knew she could get hurt
    Cowpie posted: »

    speak for yourself. I didn't grow fond of Luke at all.He came off as the anti-Lee to me in episode 2. He put Clem in danger more than anyon

  • The whole game is really down to perception and how you interpret a situation that's why such a great game I respect your opinion and I'm not saying I'm right that just how I feel perception is reality

    It's up for speculation. I could say that Kenny didn't want to give Bonnie the whole box of food and let her walk away which could have (and

  • You're right and I respect your opinion too.
    Markd4547 posted: »

    The whole game is really down to perception and how you interpret a situation that's why such a great game I respect your opinion and I'm not saying I'm right that just how I feel perception is reality

  • Thank you!
    Rynna posted: »

    Let's be real here, having Clementine do the talking was probably for the best. Having Clementine do the EVERYTHING is for the best. Bu

  • They can still turn things around. We have two whole episodes to see where there focus will lie.
  • edited May 2014
    Exactly I'm just very protective of Clem apart from Lee I find everyone suspicious not to be trusted lol Clem will be the next Rambo(Clembo) watch Lee will live forever through her his lessons created the ultimate badass
    Rynna posted: »

    Only Lee indeed! Well, to be fair the way I played my Lee was purely "protect Clementine" whereas Kenny and Luke have others to worry about

  • You are my new friend. Hi friend.
    Rynna posted: »

    Honestly, Kenny needs to step down and let EVERYONE jump back in. There was already an issue of us not knowing the new characters well enoug

  • If the episodes were season one length then I'd have more faith in that but with how short they are and how much action they like to pack in, I'm not so certain. I'm desperately hoping for one peaceful night where Clem can really just talk to everybody and get to know them. I'm assuming we'll learn more about Luke soon due to the fact that he's the most mysterious of them, which is probably on purpose as ominous as that idea is.
    KCohere posted: »

    They can still turn things around. We have two whole episodes to see where there focus will lie.

  • They need to start at Episode 4 or it's over. There's no going back in Episode 5.
    KCohere posted: »

    They can still turn things around. We have two whole episodes to see where there focus will lie.

  • Clem is the playable character so she's always going to be the one to do things. You can't really judge other characters poorly because they have her do these things. There's not a lot of ways the writers can work around that.
    Cowpie posted: »

    speak for yourself. I didn't grow fond of Luke at all.He came off as the anti-Lee to me in episode 2. He put Clem in danger more than anyon

  • "Hey, I'm on your side kid, no need for a guilt trip" Luke said that to Clementine if you decide to appeal to him. Luke convinced the group to get her out of the shed.
    Markd4547 posted: »

    dc664.4shared.com/img/TOiiIMrY/s7/13eee3df148/very_poor_choice_of_words.gif After Luke told Clem he won't help her in case he gets into

  • Died at "Clembo".
    Markd4547 posted: »

    Exactly I'm just very protective of Clem apart from Lee I find everyone suspicious not to be trusted lol Clem will be the next Rambo(Clembo) watch Lee will live forever through her his lessons created the ultimate badass

  • Luke was out of the ep for sure...but I don't think I would have traded anymore of Kenny's screen time for that. Clem and Kenny really came down to an equal mindset or the same boat..this is evident when she stays to watch Carver's dying moment.

    with Sarita's situation I am guessing that will keep Kenny busy. hopefully ep 4 will focus on Luke's side..and have more nick...and hubs..I am expecting Luke to comfort Clem on whatever decision she made with Sarita
  • This confuses me, what's hubs?
    ravensep posted: »

    Luke was out of the ep for sure...but I don't think I would have traded anymore of Kenny's screen time for that. Clem and Kenny really came

  • There's going to be more Luke- time or I'll riot..
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