What happened in the five day span from the cabin to the ski lodge? Nothing interesting? How did they eat or defend themselves against walkers? How did Luke keep up with a truck? How did Luke enter the comic book shop and somehow managed to avoid both Walkers and Carvers men? What's so important about cutting branches and collecting berries. Why is the punishment of failing this task death? Why is it slave labor? About anyone could do this, it doesn't seem all that hard. Why did Carlos tell Clem that the adults are talking when she's clearly more mature than the entire cabin group combined?
I have way too many questions to post here, so I'll just put some down for 101:
1.) If Lee killed the senator, how do people not recognize him? His face should be plastered everywhere. Newspapers and TV would talk about it until people would be sick of hearing about it. He didn't kill some Joe Shmoe in an alley- he killed a senator who was sleeping with his wife, which adds even more scandal. I can't believe that only Carley and Larry recognized him.
2.) We are able to explore the first floor of Clementine's house, while the stairs were completely blocked off. How did Sandra manage to sneak up on Lee? There was no place for her to hide. If she came down the stairs, Lee would have heard a lot of noise from her coming over the bookcase.
3.) Similarly, why did neither Shawn or Duck notice the three or so walkers approaching them? There was a huge field in front of them, so they could have spotted them long before they reached the fence. I could maybe understand why Shawn might not have been able to see, as he was hammering and his concentration was on the fence. But even Duck, dumb as a bag of hammers, would have seen the walkers while he was dicking around on the tractor. I am sure he would have commented on it if he saw them, considering we are talking about a kid who comments on everything.
4.) If the pharmacy group had been occupying the pharmacy for days, how could they not have known that a walker was in the bathroom? They thoroughly checked the office for walkers. One would think a bathroom would be a priority to find. They also made a ton of noise, so I don't see how the walker didn't start banging on the door.
There is a dream sequence during episode 1 of the walking dead which displays the death of the senator. With the audio being of glass shatte… morering. So that probably throws the theory of the senator being punched to death. My guess would be Lee threw him out of a window or a glass bottle was used to attack the senator.
Ok... let's give this a shot... I don't know where you got that Carver didn't want Reggie back, but Reggie says he forgave him even though he didn't have to. If he brought him back it's because he wanted to, it's not like Carver has any empathy. The "prison" seems to be the first step toward integration into the rest of Carver's group. Jane and Mike were supposedly "found", according to Reggie. Once they prove their worth and (most importantly) their loyalty, they'll be let in with the rest. Carver never gets to see Clem as a threat. As much as she hates him, how much could a 11 year old do against men with guns? A lot, it turns out. Kenny was a grown man, and pretty hard to control. He was in need of some discipline. Tavia and her camp could've changed a lot in almost two years, same as the 400 days characters. Rebecca's baby is neither Alvin's nor Carver's. It's the Lord's baby and he's gonna be the Messiah who leads humanity to a new golden age after the apocalypse. The group left the camp, and that was considered a treason by those in it. Also, George's death wasn't appreciated either. We don't know if Carver tried to make sure the group didn't steal again. He beat up Kenny to get them in line, but he didn't know how they did it. He could've increased security and left how they got the walkies for later, but I have to admit this was pretty stupid considering he had them all at his mercy (I doubt Sarita would've hid anything if Carver asked after beating Kenny). Again, finding Carver alone (and not at all unarmed) was kind of weird, but he could've been going somewhere (and assuming the prisoner were at the prison) after separating from Hank and he didn't have any men to spare. Still, one or two bodyguards for the camp leader never hurts. It would've made more sense if it were Troy. Why shouldn't Kenny escape? He was with the rest of the group and was presumably left out by Bonnie along with them, or am I forgeting something? Kenny was friends with Matt and Walt, and had been with them for a while. It IS weird that Kenny never mentions Matthew and it's probably because the writers forgot. However, you could say he assumed he was dead, was afraid to mention there more kidnappable people in the lodge or was too concerned with the present. Sarah was Carlos' only reason to cooperate and Carver seemed to think that with "proper raising" she could toughen up. I doubt this, she would just get worse. Carlos was a doctor and so valuable that, as soon as he got in, they gave him a task. His breaking his fingers was both impulsive and practical. Sarita, Matt and Walt weren't friends with Rebecca or Alvin and Sarah was a girl. I guess Sarah would be more effective, but Carver can't just go around showing people his true self, not to mention she's pretty fragile. There... it took me a lifetime, but I've finally done it!
If Carver had no intention of bringing Reggi back to the group, how come Reggi didn't take the hint? How long has it been since his imprison… morement? Did he really not get it during that entire time? What about the other prisoners? What did they do to deserve this? Do they care or know when they'll get out as well? Did they have a plan to escape? Did they wait for a 12 year old to do the work for them?
If Carver appreciates toughness in his people, how come he allows Clem to give him death threats, but somehow standing up to him by trying to escape and stealing a walkie talkie is going too far? How come Tavia says in 400 days that she only wants people who wish to be there, but in season 2, they're not allowed to escape? Whose baby is it? What else did the cabin group do, that was horrifying that everyone hates them? There had to be something else besides Rebecca's baby. How come Carver doesn't make sure that group never attempts to steal from … [view original content]
hell yes on the first question, when Swedish PM Anna Lindh was killed both the first (not the killer) suspect and the second suspect's face was all over TV and news paper, his name was known as well, I think it was Mijailovic or something.
I have way too many questions to post here, so I'll just put some down for 101:
1.) If Lee killed the senator, how do people not recogn… moreize him? His face should be plastered everywhere. Newspapers and TV would talk about it until people would be sick of hearing about it. He didn't kill some Joe Shmoe in an alley- he killed a senator who was sleeping with his wife, which adds even more scandal. I can't believe that only Carley and Larry recognized him.
2.) We are able to explore the first floor of Clementine's house, while the stairs were completely blocked off. How did Sandra manage to sneak up on Lee? There was no place for her to hide. If she came down the stairs, Lee would have heard a lot of noise from her coming over the bookcase.
3.) Similarly, why did neither Shawn or Duck notice the three or so walkers approaching them? There was a huge field in front of them, so they could have spotted them long before they reached th… [view original content]
When we're not looking at walkers, they're absolutely silent and they can travel at the speed of light. Seriously, this always bugged me a little in all of TWD franchise. I get it when the walker is just lying there, unstimulated, and you walk past him. But they are pretty noisy once they see you. There's no way they could get to where you are and only make noise when they have at their mercy. They're too stupid.
I have way too many questions to post here, so I'll just put some down for 101:
1.) If Lee killed the senator, how do people not recogn… moreize him? His face should be plastered everywhere. Newspapers and TV would talk about it until people would be sick of hearing about it. He didn't kill some Joe Shmoe in an alley- he killed a senator who was sleeping with his wife, which adds even more scandal. I can't believe that only Carley and Larry recognized him.
2.) We are able to explore the first floor of Clementine's house, while the stairs were completely blocked off. How did Sandra manage to sneak up on Lee? There was no place for her to hide. If she came down the stairs, Lee would have heard a lot of noise from her coming over the bookcase.
3.) Similarly, why did neither Shawn or Duck notice the three or so walkers approaching them? There was a huge field in front of them, so they could have spotted them long before they reached th… [view original content]
What had happened to the stolen walkie-talkies? Kenny pushed one walkie-talkie in Clementine's pocket. Where is the second one?
Clementine ran in comic shop, was caught, and, together with Kenny and Mike Troy led them back to the prison. There Carver already held one of the walkie-talkies. Where it's found or taken? Luke: no, he did not have time to take it. Kenny? Also seems to be no, Kenny doesn't know that Luke was caught, he was surprised to see in jail. They hid in prison between things? If so, then how could so quickly its Carver to find? Someone gave their plan?
That's even bigger than my post! I've got some rebuttals but I'm too lazy to do all of them. For instance I meant how escaped in episode 5 and not Carvers community. Keep in mind, I'm not exactly talking about plot holes. I ain't saying this the characters actions don't make sense, I'm saying I want some clarity, ya know? We'll never know how Kenny met Walt and the gang, we'll never know what it is that Carlos needed from Carver (Yes, we can assume that it was his medical skills, but are you sure? no? Exactly), there's no way Sarah would be able to toughen up, Reggi's ignorance towards his denial of freedom and I barely know a thing about Jane and Mike, a lot of things we may not get an answer to. Also, there were some joke questions in here like "Whose baby is it?" ISSA JOKE MAN. Sorry, if it flew over your head.
Ok... let's give this a shot... I don't know where you got that Carver didn't want Reggie back, but Reggie says he forgave him even though h… moree didn't have to. If he brought him back it's because he wanted to, it's not like Carver has any empathy. The "prison" seems to be the first step toward integration into the rest of Carver's group. Jane and Mike were supposedly "found", according to Reggie. Once they prove their worth and (most importantly) their loyalty, they'll be let in with the rest. Carver never gets to see Clem as a threat. As much as she hates him, how much could a 11 year old do against men with guns? A lot, it turns out. Kenny was a grown man, and pretty hard to control. He was in need of some discipline. Tavia and her camp could've changed a lot in almost two years, same as the 400 days characters. Rebecca's baby is neither Alvin's nor Carver's. It's the Lord's baby and he's gonna be the Messiah who leads humanity to a new golde… [view original content]
I think Lee got into a fight with the senator after coming home and finding him in bed with his wife, and I think Lee got a little...carried… more away. I think Kenny either pulled the Invalid's move and went into the sewers, or the blood splattered on him after killing so many of the walkers, that it camouflaged him. I don't know why Vince killed that guy, but he says he was helping his brother, so I think it may be along the lines that the man was a loan-shark that hassled his brother for money, and to get his brother out of debt, and to get rid of the guy harassing his brother, Vince offed him. I don't know who killed those guys at the end of Season 2, Episode 1, but it had to be someone trained with weaponry in order to kill so many with precision shots (also some had bullets in the back of the head, possibly indicating sneak attack, tactics), so I think Carver's crew is a good possibility.
I guess you can't answer all the questions without halting the plot. As for Mike, Jane and probably Rebecca, we're likely to get to know more of them next episode. And I answered the baby joke with another joke, actually. It's totally a spoiler, btw.
That's even bigger than my post! I've got some rebuttals but I'm too lazy to do all of them. For instance I meant how escaped in episode 5 a… morend not Carvers community. Keep in mind, I'm not exactly talking about plot holes. I ain't saying this the characters actions don't make sense, I'm saying I want some clarity, ya know? We'll never know how Kenny met Walt and the gang, we'll never know what it is that Carlos needed from Carver (Yes, we can assume that it was his medical skills, but are you sure? no? Exactly), there's no way Sarah would be able to toughen up, Reggi's ignorance towards his denial of freedom and I barely know a thing about Jane and Mike, a lot of things we may not get an answer to. Also, there were some joke questions in here like "Whose baby is it?" ISSA JOKE MAN. Sorry, if it flew over your head.
I guess you can't answer all the questions without halting the plot. As for Mike, Jane and probably Rebecca, we're likely to get to know more of them next episode. And I answered the baby joke with another joke, actually. It's totally a spoiler, btw.
No, but really lee I think he explained didn't he?? again didn't Kenny explain how he got out depending in your choices? vince and explain it. my guess carver.
Haha I don't know if you actually want to know the answer to this but I'll provide it anyway.
They do, in a way
Walkers don't require sustenance, but they will decay over time into essentially nothingness. They have a strong desire to consume flesh, but they are unable to digest it properly. When their stomach reaches its capacity, all the undigested meat will be forced out the anus. So most walkers have all sorts of nasty in the seat of their pants.
This. If Lee can strangle the stranger to death with one arm while on the verge of death himself, I bet he got carried away when he was beating up the senator and strangled him as well.
i think i know some answers, at first in s2 kenny said that there was like a hole in the building, those men were killed by carver's group after it carver came to the house, that's all
1. We don't know but Lee killed him accidentally (ooppss)
2. LOL he got "lucky"
3. We're guessing it was Carver and his men (bc of all the people were full of holes) but it could've been someone else.
4. All we know is that it was for his brother
During the five day span, TT should have included two scenes of just talking to the characters while resting or something, it was the perfect moment for that.
What happened in the five day span from the cabin to the ski lodge? Nothing interesting? How did they eat or defend themselves against walke… morers? How did Luke keep up with a truck? How did Luke enter the comic book shop and somehow managed to avoid both Walkers and Carvers men? What's so important about cutting branches and collecting berries. Why is the punishment of failing this task death? Why is it slave labor? About anyone could do this, it doesn't seem all that hard. Why did Carlos tell Clem that the adults are talking when she's clearly more mature than the entire cabin group combined?
Either they discovered there were two missing and went looking for it, or Carver manipulated Sarah into spying for him (you do see him having a one on one with her after the Reggie incident.)
What had happened to the stolen walkie-talkies? Kenny pushed one walkie-talkie in Clementine's pocket. Where is the second one?
Clemen… moretine ran in comic shop, was caught, and, together with Kenny and Mike Troy led them back to the prison. There Carver already held one of the walkie-talkies. Where it's found or taken? Luke: no, he did not have time to take it. Kenny? Also seems to be no, Kenny doesn't know that Luke was caught, he was surprised to see in jail. They hid in prison between things? If so, then how could so quickly its Carver to find? Someone gave their plan?
Was the guy who played the guard watching the horde and talking to Tavia on the walkie talkie on the rooftop in S2E3 voiced by the same man who voiced Mark? Because his voice sounded very familiar.
I remember in A New Day, it's implied that Clementine's dad was bitten before the game starts (the voice mail mentions her parents having a run-in with 'some crazy guy' and having to go to the E.R. to get Ed checked out shortly before the breakout in Savannah). Beyond that, I don't think we get any clues as to what happened to Diana. Ed would have died from the infection before the stranger goes off the deep end.
I get the feeling Diana didn't last long enough to get wrapped up in the whole 'stranger' mess either. The last two voice mails she left sounded increasingly dire (the last message having military gunfire in the background). The next we hear of Savannah is that it's at a stage nine catastrophe level (when Glenn is listening to the radio at the end of episode 1).
If they were both walkers by the time the stranger refers to them, I can't really see why he'd extend the effort to search through a very dangerous Savannah to find and capture them, and that's assuming he'd be able to distinguish which walkers are Clementine's parents when the only possible way of identifying them would be a description from Clementine.
What really happened to Clem's parents? Stranger (I would also like to know his name) said that he had her parents with him on the radio. Ma… moreybe he was just saying that to lure her, but if he really did have them at one point, was he the one to kill them or did he have them when they were walkers?
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He didn't mean that he accidentally dropped something on him or something equally strange.
1.) If Lee killed the senator, how do people not recognize him? His face should be plastered everywhere. Newspapers and TV would talk about it until people would be sick of hearing about it. He didn't kill some Joe Shmoe in an alley- he killed a senator who was sleeping with his wife, which adds even more scandal. I can't believe that only Carley and Larry recognized him.
2.) We are able to explore the first floor of Clementine's house, while the stairs were completely blocked off. How did Sandra manage to sneak up on Lee? There was no place for her to hide. If she came down the stairs, Lee would have heard a lot of noise from her coming over the bookcase.
3.) Similarly, why did neither Shawn or Duck notice the three or so walkers approaching them? There was a huge field in front of them, so they could have spotted them long before they reached the fence. I could maybe understand why Shawn might not have been able to see, as he was hammering and his concentration was on the fence. But even Duck, dumb as a bag of hammers, would have seen the walkers while he was dicking around on the tractor. I am sure he would have commented on it if he saw them, considering we are talking about a kid who comments on everything.
4.) If the pharmacy group had been occupying the pharmacy for days, how could they not have known that a walker was in the bathroom? They thoroughly checked the office for walkers. One would think a bathroom would be a priority to find. They also made a ton of noise, so I don't see how the walker didn't start banging on the door.
Clementine ran in comic shop, was caught, and, together with Kenny and Mike Troy led them back to the prison. There Carver already held one of the walkie-talkies. Where it's found or taken? Luke: no, he did not have time to take it. Kenny? Also seems to be no, Kenny doesn't know that Luke was caught, he was surprised to see in jail. They hid in prison between things? If so, then how could so quickly its Carver to find? Someone gave their plan?
Now, I feel like an idiot. Must have misread it.
No, but really lee I think he explained didn't he?? again didn't Kenny explain how he got out depending in your choices? vince and explain it. my guess carver.
They do, in a way
Walkers don't require sustenance, but they will decay over time into essentially nothingness. They have a strong desire to consume flesh, but they are unable to digest it properly. When their stomach reaches its capacity, all the undigested meat will be forced out the anus. So most walkers have all sorts of nasty in the seat of their pants.
Source: Comic series, which the game is canon to.
2. LOL he got "lucky"
3. We're guessing it was Carver and his men (bc of all the people were full of holes) but it could've been someone else.
4. All we know is that it was for his brother
Or something else ofcourse.
I get the feeling Diana didn't last long enough to get wrapped up in the whole 'stranger' mess either. The last two voice mails she left sounded increasingly dire (the last message having military gunfire in the background). The next we hear of Savannah is that it's at a stage nine catastrophe level (when Glenn is listening to the radio at the end of episode 1).
If they were both walkers by the time the stranger refers to them, I can't really see why he'd extend the effort to search through a very dangerous Savannah to find and capture them, and that's assuming he'd be able to distinguish which walkers are Clementine's parents when the only possible way of identifying them would be a description from Clementine.