Oh another decision that I was confused about was giving the water to the dying man. That guy tried to kill me, probably killed my friend, and he's dying and most people would waste perfectly good clean drinking water on him? Screw that! Also I dog suffer too. I don't care about anything that tries to kill me basically.
The most surprising choice to me was that most people didn't try to save Duck. I thought it would be a choice that was more lopsided than the Doug/Carly choice, but was surprised to see that a small majority went with Shawn. I was also shocked to see that most players didn't defend Kenny in the pharmacy, but I have heard that there is a choice you can make in that situation that puts you in that majority but doesn't accurately represent the players intentions so I don't really find that stat surprising any longer.
While thinking about the hatchet having walker blood on it might be logical, it's not the kind of thing they usually think about in TWD. They always have blood splattering on their faces from bludgeoning a walker, but they never seem concerned about it getting in their eyes or mouth. They also don't seem to be worried about the risk of infection by having walker guts spread all over their bodies and hands.
yeah, I didn't cut her arm either, it's pointless..the hatchet had walker blood and if we cut the arm or just the walker, Sarita'll die in the next episode I'm sure...and I don't want to make her last moments painful and armless
I made Clementine leave Lee behind instead of shoot him. Obviously it wouldn't really be Lee if he reanimated. The walkers technically are j… moreust dead bodies that are moving around. They can't think for themselves or have an kind of conscious or intelligent. Either way, Lee really would be dead. Plus, I still think that if you do make her shoot Lee, then she won't be able to do it (since the gun jerks to the left before the screen goes black). I'm surprised that so many people made her do that. She just saw her parents as walkers, then found out Lee was bitten, and then she has to go out and find Omid and Christa alone.
Yeah but you can see that Kenny hasn't put walker guts on his face and if Clem was hit by Troy she doesn't put walker guts on her hurted side of the face either...
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While thinking about the hatchet having walker blood on it might be logical, it's not the kind of thing they usually think about in TWD. The… morey always have blood splattering on their faces from bludgeoning a walker, but they never seem concerned about it getting in their eyes or mouth. They also don't seem to be worried about the risk of infection by having walker guts spread all over their bodies and hands.
I killed BOTH of St.John brothers. I was surprised when I discovered that 75% of players spared Andy. I mean, really? The brothers killed Ma… morerk and served him to the group, "killed" Larry (while they didn't kill him directly the St.Johns are one of the reasons he died (Not counting Kenny)), most probably ate their staff, nearly killed Kenny, held Duck at a gunpoint, nearly killed Katjaa, hurt Clementine, and etc... Call me cruel, but those FUCKERS just had it coming.
I agree with you that there wasn't any reason for Clementine to watch Kenny kill Carver. I thought Kenny was doing the right thing by killing Carver, but I didn't think it was something an eleven year old kid should witness when it wasn't necessary. It was an easy decision for me as well, but I wasn't surprised that so many players chose to stay.
Did you guys who chose to walk away with Sarita support Kenny killing Carver or not? I wanted Kenny to kill him, but I didn't think Clem should be involved in it anymore than she had to be, and that's why I chose to leave with Sarita. I did choose to say "just shoot him", after Clem had shot and wounded Carver. I didn't have any doubts that he should die, but I would have preferred for Clem to leave the room and for Kenny to just put a bullet in the back of his head.
Well in ep 3 season 2 I thought that the majority of people would choose to walk away with Sarita, not to watch Kenny brutaly kill Carver, i… moret's crazy and I didn't want Clem to see this s**t, it's pointless...if Kenny wants me to leave - then I'll leave. I certanly didn't want to watch this murder...(well I replayed the episode later and watched it and it was kinda cool cuz a little, tiny piece of my soul wanted a revenge, but that don't make it right)
I know Carver was a bad man, really bad, but I don't see any reason for Clem to watch this "big show". Carver wanted that, to make her emotionless badass killer and I don't intend to make his last moments a little bit happier...so think whatever you want, I know that for me leaving with Sarita was the right thing.
I didn't watch Carver get beat the living daylights out of, I sat with Luke, gave Irene the gun, spared Danny, left the supplies, shot the girl, talked Kenny down, had Kenny kill the kid in the attic, told the truth to Leland, took the blame for Sarah's photo.
To be fair, I assume the most popular dialogue choice in the pharmacy is "We reason with him" (as opposed to "We do what he says" or "We kick his ass"). Most people presumably try to reason with him, which the game considers as siding with Larry.
*Siding with Larry. Stats. Still. Not. Changed. JESUS ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME?! I was really surprised. Before that I was like; "Nah. No… morebody is gonna pick him." Then stats appeared and...
* Letting Lily in the RV. I think % 76 players saved Carley. I couldn't left her behind. But thinking what other players could do to her I thought; "Ohohoo girl. You're doomed!" I'm glad that I'm not the only one who dİdn't lost their battle against their anger.
* Shooting Lee. After witnessing that heartbroken ending, I started to look other peoples choices on YouTube. "They're not gonna let her shoot him, right? RIGHT?!" EVERYBODY shot Lee. I was like; "Well, s**t." Thankfully later me and % 36 players appeared. But I think the first days of "No Time Left" % 86 players made sure Lee didn't turn.
* Fighting with Kenny. "Yeah, that guy is a total racist redneck but man, he is having a bad times. I should calm him down." Later I checked the… [view original content]
Same. my Clem did her own work to keep out of trouble and really i thought Sarah was going to stab herself or something with the clippers. But then again I kinda expecting something to happen to her eventually.
If you help Sarah or not in harms way. I thought people would think like me and do my own work but they helped her instead. I thought it was time for her to man up
I think the reason that a lot of players didn't cut off Lee's arm is because they realized that too much time had passed to save him at that point. He was already passing out and feeling weird, so it seemed obvious to many that it had spread throughout his entire body by that time and cutting his arm off wasn't going to help after so much time had passed.
I took the food from the car because it seemed completely abandoned. I didn't feel like I was stealing anything anymore than I did when we were looting other abandoned buildings and taking things. They could have made that choice a little harder by letting us see one of the owners of the food. I think the group was starving pretty bad at that point, and didn't have much choice since there was no one around. I didn't like disappointing Clem, but I wouldn't let her make choices I felt were bad for her. I think the entire point of Lee was to take care of Clem like a parent and not just keep her happy at any cost. The emotions of an 8 year old girl aren't developed enough to understand how to make tough decisions which is why she needs adults making them for her.
Clem was a very sweet and lovable child that wanted to help everybody, but as mature as she was for her age she still didn't understand those decision could get people hurt in the long run. She had a very innocent and childish maturity that did slowly grow as the season moved on. Lee taught her how to shoot, and gave her a lot information about surviving, but the process was slow and more realistic, but in season two they took it too far and too fast. I think they should have just slowly continued her growth in a more realistic way which would have been a lot more interesting. I got a little off topic here but I always do that.
Same here, I killed the bitten woman out of mercy.
I think one of the big things that got me was the percentage that didn't cut off Lee… more's arm and those who stole from the Station Wagon. I cut off Lee's arm to keep hope alive for me, but alas he dies from blood loss! I didn't choose to steal from the station wagon because I wanted to side with Clem, and I thought of myself in that person's shoes, coming back to see all of your supplies gone.
(Sorry if someone else already said this) One of the most surprising decisions was that not a lot of people chose to save Doug. I liked Doug...but I also liked Carley
I was really bothered by Ben's behavior after he panicked and ran away from Clementine instead of trying to save her. It didn't seem like it bothered him very much at all. I hope I'm never in some kind of horrible situation like this, because I can't be sure how I would react once I'm suddenly hit with the fight or flight instinct, but if my panic and survival instinct overruled my moral convictions, and I just ran off to save my own ass I don't think I could live with myself. I do know for a fact that the shame would destroy me, because that kind of shame would be worse than death.
But after Ben runs away and leaves Clem to die he doesn't show much regret and actually turns into an asshole after that. I did like Ben alright in the end when I dropped him. He seemed to acknowledge that he didn't have what it takes because he panics and makes bad decisions when things get tough. He was a good person, but he couldn't perform well in tough situations and was full of shame and ready to die in the end. That was a pretty sad moment for me because of the way I perceived him. He finally accepted this and wanted Lee to let him go and save the others. That's what makes season one such a great game. Everyone develops completely different relationships and attitudes towards these characters.
A lot of critics of the game talk about the choices having no real meaning and since they send you down the same road as everyone else in the end, but they don't seem to understand that those decisions impact the way characters interact with you and that's really what makes the game so good. They created the characters in way that leaves room for each players imagination to fill in some of the blanks for themselves and create their own reality and experience. That's why people have arguments about characters all the time, and that's a good thing.
What's really so disappointing about season two is that the game had so much potential to expand on the things that made season one great. I know a lot of people still like season two, but it didn't live up to it's potential at all. I wanted more elaborate and complicated characters that greatly expanded on what they did in season one. I'm going off topic again so I will stop now lol
80% people let go of Ben.
I mean,Ben was kind of a "douche" and he let Clementine alone when they were surrounded by zombies.He did a lot of bad stuff but come on...Let him fall?I think that this is kind of inhumane...
I made Clementine leave Lee behind instead of shoot him. Obviously it wouldn't really be Lee if he reanimated. The walkers technically are j… moreust dead bodies that are moving around. They can't think for themselves or have an kind of conscious or intelligent. Either way, Lee really would be dead. Plus, I still think that if you do make her shoot Lee, then she won't be able to do it (since the gun jerks to the left before the screen goes black). I'm surprised that so many people made her do that. She just saw her parents as walkers, then found out Lee was bitten, and then she has to go out and find Omid and Christa alone.
I agree with you 100% on this. I explained why I didn't make Clem shoot Lee in a post above, but it is by far the saddest ending when you see Lee die and slump over to the side and then see Clementine standing at the door.
I killed both of those fuckers and told Clem some people have to die because they are bad. That's how I handled mine too. I did save Duck though. I have a soft spot for kids.
There was no way I was going to let that Season 1 bitten woman shoot herself....first off, because that's my gun and my bullet that I might … moreneed later, second because gunshots are crazy loud!
I saved Shawn over Duck because they made Duck so damned annoying! I think more people would have saved Duck if he'd been less of a weirdo. I was pretty glad when he went away and volunteered to do it myself.
I saved Carley over Doug and think most folks did because it did reek of love interest and that wouldn't have been a bad way to go. Plus she was just waaaayyyy cooler than Doug and seemed more useful to the group.
Not killing the cannibal brothers I don't get at all. THEY. WERE. TRYING. TO. EAT. YOU.
I cut Lee's arm off because I wanted to see how they'd handle doing that in terms of gameplay....I went back and reloaded the save both ways but used one-arm Lee as my final.
I get that some people say that a Father shouldn't kill his son, however I'm a pretty big fan of "Of Mice and Men", and if you've read the book/seen the film, I think you'd agree that letting Kenny do it might have been the better answer.
Well yeah I wanted Kenny to kill him, but he could just shoot him in the head, not smash his head like he did in season 1 with Larry...I thought that maybe he has changed for those 2 years, but no he is the same stupid bastard he was in season 1 :D :D (don't get me wrong I like him very much, but vengeance's not the right thing). Well maybe for Carver the best thing was to let him live...and suffer. He was going to die either way by Kenny or by the walkers....after shooting Carver in the legs we could just go and leave him there. He can't walk, so he can't escape from the zombies and if he does his group won't let him be the leader...
I agree with you that there wasn't any reason for Clementine to watch Kenny kill Carver. I thought Kenny was doing the right thing by killin… moreg Carver, but I didn't think it was something an eleven year old kid should witness when it wasn't necessary. It was an easy decision for me as well, but I wasn't surprised that so many players chose to stay.
Did you guys who chose to walk away with Sarita support Kenny killing Carver or not? I wanted Kenny to kill him, but I didn't think Clem should be involved in it anymore than she had to be, and that's why I chose to leave with Sarita. I did choose to say "just shoot him", after Clem had shot and wounded Carver. I didn't have any doubts that he should die, but I would have preferred for Clem to leave the room and for Kenny to just put a bullet in the back of his head.
Not stealing from the car is a tough decision. It's tough, because you know people will dislike you for it, it's tough because you guys desperately need those supplies. Trust me, not stealing from the car was an extremely hard choice, but I chose it. It seemed to odd that a car, with it's lights still on, out in the middle of the forest, with no signs of attack by walker or by enemy combatant, and the keys still on, was truly abandoned. That's why I didn't take it, I knew it belonged to someone else. And that was a tough decision, one of the toughest a person can make. It's choosing against your survival to do the right thing.
I think the reason that a lot of players didn't cut off Lee's arm is because they realized that too much time had passed to save him at that… more point. He was already passing out and feeling weird, so it seemed obvious to many that it had spread throughout his entire body by that time and cutting his arm off wasn't going to help after so much time had passed.
I took the food from the car because it seemed completely abandoned. I didn't feel like I was stealing anything anymore than I did when we were looting other abandoned buildings and taking things. They could have made that choice a little harder by letting us see one of the owners of the food. I think the group was starving pretty bad at that point, and didn't have much choice since there was no one around. I didn't like disappointing Clem, but I wouldn't let her make choices I felt were bad for her. I think the entire point of Lee was to take care of Clem like a parent and not just kee… [view original content]
I left the sonuvabitch Carver, didn't want to satisfy him. But when I saw most people chose to stay, I was shocked as hell. No offence, but it felt like people were thinking about personal revenge more than Clem's humanity at that moment.
I left the sonuvabitch Carver, didn't want to satisfy him. But when I saw most people chose to stay, I was shocked as hell. No offence, but … moreit felt like people were thinking about personal revenge more than Clem's humanity at that moment.
I'M PREPARED FOR DOWNVOTES.
I thought the same, Carver wanted Clem to watch so i walked out to not satisfy him and like you said i want to try and preserve Clem's humanity for a little while longer.
I left the sonuvabitch Carver, didn't want to satisfy him. But when I saw most people chose to stay, I was shocked as hell. No offence, but … moreit felt like people were thinking about personal revenge more than Clem's humanity at that moment.
I'M PREPARED FOR DOWNVOTES.
I found it kind of ironic how he kinda pouted if you choosed to leave, it was like when he had them cornered at the ski-lodge and they pouted for his actions. Only it's sort of reversed. I might be the only one that sees that, but there is a slight resemblance with those two situations.
I thought the same, Carver wanted Clem to watch so i walked out to not satisfy him and like you said i want to try and preserve Clem's humanity for a little while longer.
So, no respect for me? My feed shows "I got respect for you. :3". Where is it? >:(
*Rodney Dangerfield's impression* NO RESPECT.
Also, congrats to me for writing my "Number of the Beast" post.
There's a difference between murder and self-defense. What Kenny did was murder (I liked Kenny, he's a great character). Just because you've seen a war, doesn't make you war-ready, similar to murder, and also it goes the other way, too. Just because you haven't witnessed a murder, doesn't mean you can't kill. It has nothing to do with "preparing for the future", you just want revenge, and to know that it will be dealt. Why? Why does an eleven year old have to see this? Why should anyone be forced to see this? You make no sense.
I'm not. I wanted to make sure he was dead and didn't fully trust Kenny to go all the way with it. Kept hoping Clem would get the chance to finish him off! God I hated that guy.
I did decide to stay at first until it hit me that Clementine would be watching the entire thing, and realised that it wasn't worth it, and it would be just what Carver wants.
I left the sonuvabitch Carver, didn't want to satisfy him. But when I saw most people chose to stay, I was shocked as hell. No offence, but … moreit felt like people were thinking about personal revenge more than Clem's humanity at that moment.
I'M PREPARED FOR DOWNVOTES.
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Did you guys who chose to walk away with Sarita support Kenny killing Carver or not? I wanted Kenny to kill him, but I didn't think Clem should be involved in it anymore than she had to be, and that's why I chose to leave with Sarita. I did choose to say "just shoot him", after Clem had shot and wounded Carver. I didn't have any doubts that he should die, but I would have preferred for Clem to leave the room and for Kenny to just put a bullet in the back of his head.
I took the food from the car because it seemed completely abandoned. I didn't feel like I was stealing anything anymore than I did when we were looting other abandoned buildings and taking things. They could have made that choice a little harder by letting us see one of the owners of the food. I think the group was starving pretty bad at that point, and didn't have much choice since there was no one around. I didn't like disappointing Clem, but I wouldn't let her make choices I felt were bad for her. I think the entire point of Lee was to take care of Clem like a parent and not just keep her happy at any cost. The emotions of an 8 year old girl aren't developed enough to understand how to make tough decisions which is why she needs adults making them for her.
Clem was a very sweet and lovable child that wanted to help everybody, but as mature as she was for her age she still didn't understand those decision could get people hurt in the long run. She had a very innocent and childish maturity that did slowly grow as the season moved on. Lee taught her how to shoot, and gave her a lot information about surviving, but the process was slow and more realistic, but in season two they took it too far and too fast. I think they should have just slowly continued her growth in a more realistic way which would have been a lot more interesting. I got a little off topic here but I always do that.
But after Ben runs away and leaves Clem to die he doesn't show much regret and actually turns into an asshole after that. I did like Ben alright in the end when I dropped him. He seemed to acknowledge that he didn't have what it takes because he panics and makes bad decisions when things get tough. He was a good person, but he couldn't perform well in tough situations and was full of shame and ready to die in the end. That was a pretty sad moment for me because of the way I perceived him. He finally accepted this and wanted Lee to let him go and save the others. That's what makes season one such a great game. Everyone develops completely different relationships and attitudes towards these characters.
A lot of critics of the game talk about the choices having no real meaning and since they send you down the same road as everyone else in the end, but they don't seem to understand that those decisions impact the way characters interact with you and that's really what makes the game so good. They created the characters in way that leaves room for each players imagination to fill in some of the blanks for themselves and create their own reality and experience. That's why people have arguments about characters all the time, and that's a good thing.
What's really so disappointing about season two is that the game had so much potential to expand on the things that made season one great. I know a lot of people still like season two, but it didn't live up to it's potential at all. I wanted more elaborate and complicated characters that greatly expanded on what they did in season one. I'm going off topic again so I will stop now lol
I get that some people say that a Father shouldn't kill his son, however I'm a pretty big fan of "Of Mice and Men", and if you've read the book/seen the film, I think you'd agree that letting Kenny do it might have been the better answer.
I'M PREPARED FOR DOWNVOTES.
*Rodney Dangerfield's impression* NO RESPECT.
Also, congrats to me for writing my "Number of the Beast" post.
I did decide to stay at first until it hit me that Clementine would be watching the entire thing, and realised that it wasn't worth it, and it would be just what Carver wants.