A - Clementine gets the exact same beating Kenny did. Unlike Kenny though, Clem would have been killed by that pretty quick. There probably would have been brain trauma before the fourth swing. Simply put, Clem would be dead.
B - Carver would have given her a backhand for discipline and yelled at her. After his whole 'next generation' speech thing, he might not have wanted her dead.
I think part B. is more likely what would have happened, A. never would have happened, and in addition Carver might have killed someone. Either Luke, for the disagreement over how to manage the community being mainly between the two of them; or Kenny, for being the most outspoken and belligerent against him.
If nobody came forward, Carver might have just had one of those two shot. Handing over the radio as Clem probably would have prompted Carver, once he had his murder tool of choice for the occasion, to beat the nearest male dissenting survivor to death, in this case being Luke.
Probably could have turned out two ways:
A - Clementine gets the exact same beating Kenny did. Unlike Kenny though, Clem would have bee… moren killed by that pretty quick. There probably would have been brain trauma before the fourth swing. Simply put, Clem would be dead.
B - Carver would have given her a backhand for discipline and yelled at her. After his whole 'next generation' speech thing, he might not have wanted her dead.
Y'know, you mention Carlos, I think it would have been cool if he would have stood up for you depending on whether you stood up for Sarah earlier on. And If you didn't, it would have been interesting to see who would step in instead depending on how close you are to them.
I think part B. is more likely what would have happened, A. never would have happened, and in addition Carver might have killed someone. Eit… moreher Luke, for the disagreement over how to manage the community being mainly between the two of them; or Kenny, for being the most outspoken and belligerent against him.
If nobody came forward, Carver might have just had one of those two shot. Handing over the radio as Clem probably would have prompted Carver, once he had his murder tool of choice for the occasion, to beat the nearest male dissenting survivor to death, in this case being Luke.
Just me thinking here, I wish it was if Clem got slapped then Luke/Kenny, depending on who you sat with or something, stood up for you. Then Carver beats them up instead. This would have given her relationships with these guys more development.
I think that Carver would of slapped Clementine knocking her to the ground and then he would of held the others at gun point and called Troy over to teach Clem a lesson, Troy would then rape her and Carver would make the others watch and he'd laugh evilly.
I think that Carver would of slapped Clementine knocking her to the ground and then he would of held the others at gun point and called Troy… more over to teach Clem a lesson, Troy would then rape her and Carver would make the others watch and he'd laugh evilly.
carver: *grabs luke and Kenny and puts them next to each other*
carver: *takes out gun"
carver: in 5 seconds im going to kill one of there men. you tell me which on to shot and i kill that person, if you don't tell me who to shot in 5 seconds, I kill them both.
carver: 1... 2..
clem (gets choice to tell him to kill Kenny or luke)
"lets say clem says "shot luke"
carver: *looks at luke *looks at Kenny*
carver: walks over to Kenny and kills Kenny.
he did the opposite of what you said, now luke lives wit the fact that she picked for him to die instead of Kenny.
And if you choose the opposite, he does the same thing. he does what you didn't pick.
I kind of thought it would become Ski Lodge 2.0. That's the main reason I tried to fess up rather than hide it. I didn't want him to murder anyone else.
PLOT TWIST!
carver: *takes walkie talkie from her.
carver: *grabs luke and Kenny and puts them next to each other*
carver: *… moretakes out gun"
carver: in 5 seconds im going to kill one of there men. you tell me which on to shot and i kill that person, if you don't tell me who to shot in 5 seconds, I kill them both.
carver: 1... 2..
clem (gets choice to tell him to kill Kenny or luke)
"lets say clem says "shot luke"
carver: *looks at luke *looks at Kenny*
carver: walks over to Kenny and kills Kenny.
he did the opposite of what you said, now luke lives wit the fact that she picked for him to die instead of Kenny.
And if you choose the opposite, he does the same thing. he does what you didn't pick.
I highly doubt it. Carver seems to like a Clementine with fire in her, though that may be because she shows strength and yet is still not a huge threat because of her age. He may have slapped her but I doubt that he would have beaten her and killed her. He enjoys seeing a child with her strength and seemed to think that over time, Clem would come to want to be like him instead of fight against him. He shows that he's willing to kill her later on but that's only after everything goes to hell and he's freaking out.
I think he would have smacked her and then proceeded to beat the hell out of either Luke or Kenny as another punishment, knowing she cares about them. Luke either for having the other walkie talkie or possibly standing up for Clem after she's smacked and Kenny for standing up for Clem when she's smacked.
Carver only beat up Kenny because of what he said after delivering the walkie-talkie. Kenny would have been in the same situation as Reggie if he had not said that. one step closer to the fire.
I really don't think he would do something like that to Clem. at most a big slap in her face, like what Carlos did to Sarah. Carver had an appreciation for Clem. if he had done that to her, she probably would've died of trauma.
PLOT TWIST!
carver: *takes walkie talkie from her.
carver: *grabs luke and Kenny and puts them next to each other*
carver: *… moretakes out gun"
carver: in 5 seconds im going to kill one of there men. you tell me which on to shot and i kill that person, if you don't tell me who to shot in 5 seconds, I kill them both.
carver: 1... 2..
clem (gets choice to tell him to kill Kenny or luke)
"lets say clem says "shot luke"
carver: *looks at luke *looks at Kenny*
carver: walks over to Kenny and kills Kenny.
he did the opposite of what you said, now luke lives wit the fact that she picked for him to die instead of Kenny.
And if you choose the opposite, he does the same thing. he does what you didn't pick.
He'd ask her who told her to do that. If she refuses to answer, he'll start beating her until someone admits to it. Then he'll beat the person who admits to it a bloody pulp like he did Kenny. Unless it's Rebecca, of course. That'll just earn her a slap across the face.
If nobody had confessed, Luke might've gotten more of a beating from Carver [and really badly]. But if Clementine had spoken up, then she might've been beaten up instead, or even being possible Carver could've killed her in that brutal way, unless Bonnie stopped him like she did with Kenny.
I think that Carver would of slapped Clementine knocking her to the ground and then he would of held the others at gun point and called Troy… more over to teach Clem a lesson, Troy would then rape her and Carver would make the others watch and he'd laugh evilly.
PLOT TWIST!
carver: *takes walkie talkie from her.
carver: *grabs luke and Kenny and puts them next to each other*
carver: *… moretakes out gun"
carver: in 5 seconds im going to kill one of there men. you tell me which on to shot and i kill that person, if you don't tell me who to shot in 5 seconds, I kill them both.
carver: 1... 2..
clem (gets choice to tell him to kill Kenny or luke)
"lets say clem says "shot luke"
carver: *looks at luke *looks at Kenny*
carver: walks over to Kenny and kills Kenny.
he did the opposite of what you said, now luke lives wit the fact that she picked for him to die instead of Kenny.
And if you choose the opposite, he does the same thing. he does what you didn't pick.
I think part B. is more likely what would have happened, A. never would have happened, and in addition Carver might have killed someone. Eit… moreher Luke, for the disagreement over how to manage the community being mainly between the two of them; or Kenny, for being the most outspoken and belligerent against him.
If nobody came forward, Carver might have just had one of those two shot. Handing over the radio as Clem probably would have prompted Carver, once he had his murder tool of choice for the occasion, to beat the nearest male dissenting survivor to death, in this case being Luke.
Carver seemed to have kind of a soft spot for Clementine.
At least in certain respects.
However over the Walki-talki issue, I think Carver would've hurt Clementine bad, though not as bad as he did Kenny.
Clem might have gotten a similar beating, though not one that would kill her, and nearly everyone would try and stop him. Bonnie would have been even more pissed as well... if Clem were to be beat exactly like Kenny I have a feeling she would have shot Carver.
Y'know, you mention Carlos, I think it would have been cool if he would have stood up for you depending on whether you stood up for Sarah ea… morerlier on. And If you didn't, it would have been interesting to see who would step in instead depending on how close you are to them.
No, because Carver still said "Three" even though he should have stopped counting, so Kenny said "heh, fucker" because he knew Carver wasn't going to let that slide.
He definitely didn't care about gender or age. He respected Clem, because she has a strong personality, just like him (she looks into the eye). That doesn't mean that Carver wouldn't have beaten her to death, if he found out that she stole the radios. Clementine would have in fact, probaply died from the beating Kenny got, or atleast have fatal injuries.
If everyone remained silent, I think we would have had Luke being tortured similar to Carlos in 202 to make him tell Carver who had the walkie talkie.
Carver ain't an idiot, I'm sure he knows the walkie talkie is for communication with Luke.
And he knows if he beats the crap outta Clem there would be not a single dude in camp who would like Carver. He would be beating his own reputation if he beat up Clem as bad as Kenny.
He's smart. Hed probably just slap her like he can at the beginning. He wants to brainwash Clem cause she's so young. He'd forgive her and her group, to make Clem feel grateful. He'd probably try and spend more time with her after to make her like Carver.
If Kenny doesn't take the blame.. Carver gives Clem the Stone Cold Stunner and then Troy finishes her off with the Hulk Hogan legdrop. So its a good thing that Kenny took the blame.
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A - Clementine gets the exact same beating Kenny did. Unlike Kenny though, Clem would have been killed by that pretty quick. There probably would have been brain trauma before the fourth swing. Simply put, Clem would be dead.
B - Carver would have given her a backhand for discipline and yelled at her. After his whole 'next generation' speech thing, he might not have wanted her dead.
Maybe he'd make her choose someone to be punished in her place.
If nobody came forward, Carver might have just had one of those two shot. Handing over the radio as Clem probably would have prompted Carver, once he had his murder tool of choice for the occasion, to beat the nearest male dissenting survivor to death, in this case being Luke.
carver: *takes walkie talkie from her.
carver: *grabs luke and Kenny and puts them next to each other*
carver: *takes out gun"
carver: in 5 seconds im going to kill one of there men. you tell me which on to shot and i kill that person, if you don't tell me who to shot in 5 seconds, I kill them both.
carver: 1... 2..
clem (gets choice to tell him to kill Kenny or luke)
"lets say clem says "shot luke"
carver: *looks at luke *looks at Kenny*
carver: walks over to Kenny and kills Kenny.
he did the opposite of what you said, now luke lives wit the fact that she picked for him to die instead of Kenny.
And if you choose the opposite, he does the same thing. he does what you didn't pick.
I think he would have smacked her and then proceeded to beat the hell out of either Luke or Kenny as another punishment, knowing she cares about them. Luke either for having the other walkie talkie or possibly standing up for Clem after she's smacked and Kenny for standing up for Clem when she's smacked.
I really don't think he would do something like that to Clem. at most a big slap in her face, like what Carlos did to Sarah. Carver had an appreciation for Clem. if he had done that to her, she probably would've died of trauma.
Option B - speak up, Kenny gets beatdown.
That's what I thought would happen when I first played the episode.
At least in certain respects.
However over the Walki-talki issue, I think Carver would've hurt Clementine bad, though not as bad as he did Kenny.
I actually thought Carlos was meant to be in your comment but you're welcome XD
Carver ain't an idiot, I'm sure he knows the walkie talkie is for communication with Luke.
And he knows if he beats the crap outta Clem there would be not a single dude in camp who would like Carver. He would be beating his own reputation if he beat up Clem as bad as Kenny.
He's smart. Hed probably just slap her like he can at the beginning. He wants to brainwash Clem cause she's so young. He'd forgive her and her group, to make Clem feel grateful. He'd probably try and spend more time with her after to make her like Carver.