Which group would you rather survive with?
Would you rather be with the Season 1 gang (the original gang without anyone dead): Lee, Clementine, Carley, Lilly, Larry, Doug, Kenny, Duck, Katjaa, and Glenn
Or with the ones from Season 2 (up-to-date without anyone dead) Luke, Clementine, Kenny, Carlos, Sarah, Rebecca, Alvin, Nick, Pete, Mike, Jane, Bonnie, and Sarita
Comment which one and why!
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I actually think the season 2 group. Besides the whole Carver thing, there's a lot less internal powers struggles etc. going on with the season 2 group that'd be prone to get you killed. They seem a lot more functional.
And...well, they lasted longer than the season 1 group did. Say what you want about their competence, but they did.
Well the Season 1 group has less annoying characters, and better characters in general. It's a shame that Luke won't be in though, I like him.
Season 1 group. Season 2's group is unrealisticaly incompetent given they're 2 years into the apocalypse. Also you forgot our loyal friend Mark
i could never forget Mark ;O;!! I just added the "original" characters that were all introduced only in season 1 lol >w<
Maybe the season 2 group. More people (which could be good or bad) and I wouldn't have to put up with Larry. Then again, Lee, Carley, and Doug
. Not to mention Kenny would have his family.... I can't decide.
Season 2 group. Despite the Carver thing, they had a good thing going for them. Season 1 group was just a bunch bullshit arguments over dumb things with people who couldn't stand each other.
Season 1 by far. Then the 400 days characters
i don't even care about these season 2 people.They lack personally . i have had zero feels for season 2 people that have died so far
This group: Kenny,Lee,Luke,Carley,Glenn,Pete,Jane,Mike and Molly
Honestly I think calling Jane, Mike and Bonnie a part of the season two original group is stretching it...
Tough call, both groups have their pros and cons. While season one characters are MUCH more competent than season two characters (three potential leaders, the best scavenger in TWD universe bar Molly, a gunslinger, a tech expert, and even a pseudo-medic) they are also much more broken and there's just too much drama. The characters in season two, on the other hand, while being much more mature and reasonable as a whole, they only really have four legit great assets (Clem, Luke, Pete, and Carlos). Everyone else... Kenny is rocking this horrible combination of stupidity and recklessness, Nick is pretty much a violent Ben (good lord), Rebecca is a ticking time bomb (not to mention she has the potential to be flat out evil), Alvin / Sarita are just kinda there, Sarah is just another mouth to feed, and Jane might be crazy for all we know. Bonnie and Mike could prove somewhat useful.
I'd probably end up going with Lee's group despite having the horrible parasitic leech that is Larry. Just looking at how much Luke's group relies on a little girl for everything really speaks volumes of the general lack of competence and if the groups baggage includes a hunting Carver...
Season Two Group.
Honestly, I'd like both groups to join.
I know that it might cause some problems for Kenny, what with Katja and Sarita, but I'm sure that old sly devil can handle it.
Lol!
I liked all the original group characters from season 1, except for Larry and Lilly.
And I like all the group characters from season 2.
And I think if they would've been able to join, they'd be a force to be reckoned with!
I think ones like the St John's, the stranger, and Carver would think twice before fuckin' with them.
Season 1 group > Season 2 group.
They were more badass and more survival-worthy. Carley, Kenny, Doug, Lilly, Molly, Omid. They were a decent bunch of people.
S2 Group are too soft and too boring and too dumb and too useless. Alvin is an exception.
i thought this would be an easy choice,but the season 2 group has really grown on me a lot,season 1 just
Why do say that Nick is a violent version of Ben?
From what I've seen, Nick seems to have a fairly good head on his shoulders.
And as far as Kenny, at least he's not gonna sit on his ass and wait to die.
He's gonna fight to the end!
Not just for himself and Clementine, but also for the rest of the group.
And I don't blame him for killing Carver.
Not just because Carver horribly disfigured him, but also for killing Walt, and for all the other malicious harm that Carver did.
And Kenny is far from stupid.
He's shown himself to be smart, good with his hands, and resourceful.
And his skills with a rifle are priceless!
And as far as Rebecca being flat-out evil, after all the horrible things that Carver did, including killing Alvin, and from what it sounds like, in Carver's final words that he possibly sexually abused Rebecca, I don't blame her for wanting him dead.
And Rebecca can't help being pregnant, it's just one of those things!
S1 group seems stronger to me as an entity. Despite the strong personalities, they largely worked quite well as a group.
Season 2 group, I just really love Nick's character.
S1 group would have been close to perfect if we could have 'swapped' Larry for say Luke or Carlos.
I prefer the season 1 characters but the season 2 group would have a better chance surviving. They don't have internal power struggles, (yet anyway) they don't have a disruptive presence like Larry and two years in the apocalypse will have made them more capable fighters than the season 1 group.
Nick has a fairly good head on his shoulders? In the first five minutes we met him he nearly blew our head off and then later he almost got my Clem killed AGAIN at that shack, and then it all culminated in his shooting poor ol' nice Matt despite our constant yelling "DON'T SHOOT." Complete bullshit that he "didn't hear us." He's at least nice when he wants to be... A lot of the time he's just whiny though. I admit he's not quite Ben level but he's getting there. Thing is with Nick he has both the potential to get better... or worse.
And with Kenny... It seems all his leadership qualities went down the shitter when his family died. It's like what Carlos said, he doesn't think anymore he just kinda acts. Like when he kept the fire fight going at the ski resort. What did he hope to accomplish? Did he really think he could take on like five heavily armed baddies when they have ample hostages? Then typical Kenny doesn't give up till someone he actually cares about is in trouble (Clem / Sarita). He's more than willing to sacrifice two party members to continue a losing, worthless battle.
While it is true that Kenny has shown to be intelligent in the past but now.. Take his first plan in ep. 3, to jump the first guy he sees and take their gun so he can shoot the next guy etc etc. That has got to be the worst plan ever created. He even asks Clementine to help in, if I didn't know any better, his death wish. You can't say he's just being brave, there's a very distinct line between bravery and recklessness. And if he was as good at using a rifle as Lilly was back at the motor inn then we could have killed Carver a whole episode early smh. Don't get me wrong, I still love Kenny as much as the next guy he just definitely has his many flaws.
And with Rebecca I was referring to the time when she advocated killing a little girl despite really knowing nothing of the situation. Her being 'hormonal' or whatever doesn't excuse her AT ALL. If she managed convinced the group in her little 'hormonal state' then Clementine might've been killed. You'd think a mom would want to help a child...
Group 1 guys! Lee is in it, there's not even room for debate here!!!
Hmm...I would have to say I'd prefer the 'Season Two' group. They seem to be more functional, they survived longer and there's less of a power struggle with no bandits to attack them, they even had fish-traps to help get food. So yeah without the Carver thing I suspect they would have survived and thrived.
In all fairness though, Nick had no idea who Mathew was.
Mathew could've been a cannibal for we knew.
Andy St John looked normal, and look what he turned out to be.
And with the constant danger in TWD, getting paranoid is understandable.
He did later show remorse over what happened.
And when it came down to it, Nick was willing to admit to his mistake and did so.
Kenny at least tried to help back at the lodge.
Carver was a madman, and whatever he did was on him.
As Sarita said, it wasn't fair for the others to blame Kenny for Carver's actions.
And as Sarita again very candidly pointed out that she and Kenny were only in that mess with Carver cause of Luke and his group.
After all, if Luke and the others hadn't shown up, none of that would've happened.
But then we wouldn't have a game.
Nor would we have found out Kenny was alive.
And Kenny trying to escape in the truck, their werent a whole lot of options as of what to do, or how to do it.
Granted Kenny was grasping at straws, but at least showed he was still fighting to live.
It's that kinda tenacity that's kept Kenny alive for so long.
Hard to fault that!
And in that kinda world, like in any warzone, you either fight or die.
Lee, and now Clementine, serve as Kenny's voice of reason.
Kinda like how B.J was Hawkeye's voice of reason on the tv series MAS*H.
Which is great, as it adds more dynamics to the game.
Great move by the games writers I must say!
As far as Rebecca, the only thing I can think that she might've been thinking is, even thought Clementine is just a kid, she also had her unborn baby to think about.
Even though Clementine was bitten by a dog, the group had no real reason to believe her, after all there are a lot of desperate people out there, and she nor the others, didn't know Clementine from a whole in the ground.
And the fact Carver misdiagnosed the bite, that was pretty bad doctoring.
Although Carlos did seem to fix up Kenny fairly well, given the circumstances.
And on that note, Herschel's words at the beginning seem to be proving true.
"Let's say things get worse before they get better, you're gonna have to depend on the honesty of strangers to survive. And if those same people get to questioning yours, your gonna be in trouble."
Duh Season 1 Carly, she needs some personal attention and Lee was too busy looking for Clementine's hat. Lilly too, something about a crazy woman with crazy eyes, scares and excites me at the same time.
Carly is taken by Doug and Lily has an angry 300lb father who won't be too impressed with you hooking up with his daughter
If you joined the season 2 group however, then Sarah is legal in a years time and if you don't mind the risk of getting your dick shot off, then there's always Jane
Carly isn't in love with Doug, she said she kind of liked him , big difference. Lilly, that would be the thrill of the hunt. It wouldn't be any fun if there wasn't any danger. It makes it more exciting. Personally i live for the chase.
As of Season 2, i wouldn't touch Sarah shes just a kid, kinda gross imo. Jane is nuts and not to be trusted!
It came across as a more romantic thing to me, but I cannot remember episode 1 too well.
The Sarah thing was a joke but I 100% agree with Jane haha
"Which group would you rather survive with?"
The one with the puppy.
But can Lee, Kenny and a few of the others come over and join team puppy? T.T I miss Lee, lots.
I mean seriously, troy was a piece of crap but he didn't deserve that. It made me shrivel in pain, ow. I been kicked in the nuts a few times in my adventures, so i know how badly it hurts.
Even though I think Season 1's group is awesome, and they are the classic group, we gotta remember: The season 1 group is a bunch of rag-tag people thrown together. The Cabin Group have lived with each other for a long time and have seen their relationships tested.
If the season 1 group lived trough the 16 months; I would have gone with them. I believe that they would have matured, and improved their skills a lot since the beginning.
Clearly we have very different opinions. :P This will be my last post here.
Nick's little 'mistake' cost someone there life. Someone with a bit more competence would've tried to understand the situation better, perhaps listen to our pleas to 'STOP' and 'DON'T SHOOT.' Clearly he's one of those guys that shoots first and asks questions later. I shouldn't expect less from him though, it's already been established he has a loose trigger finger when he NEARLY BLEW CLEM'S FACE OFF. You can't possibly deny that Telltale is setting Nick up to be a huge fuck up, no doubt so later he can do some heroic deed in the future and redeem himself in our eyes.
That's what you call it? Helping? I call it not thinking about your actions and getting people killed. Obviously Carver holds most of the blame but Kenny surely didn't help matters. He's the one who spurred Carver. It's made all that worse for me because I even told him that Carver will kill them but he just flat out ignores me, not even hesitating to consider what I said, and starts to shoot.
Fight or die? More like fight AND die. I have no doubt in my mind that if Kenny went ahead with his horrible, HORRIBLE plan then he'd end up dead. And if Clem decided to heed his advice and help him she might've been hurt in the process as well. Only reason Kenny is still alive is because God apparently intervened and knocked Kenny the fuck out. It's true that his tenacity is formidable but sometimes, as Carlos puts it, it's better to be rational and patient. Rebecca even tells us he's acting without much thought.
You can't really say Clementine is his voice of reason too now because he just flat out ignores her half the time (tried to tell him to not shoot, tried to tell him his plan was stupid). I do like how generally if Clementine tells him to calm down or to stop fighting he'll actually heed her though.
If I were put in a situation where I was in the zombie apocalypse and met a girl who might've been bitten I, like most morally sound people, wouldn't be able to immediately join the 'let's smash her head in!' bandwagon like Rebecca did. And even after they find out Clem wasn't bitten she still insists that Clementine needs to GTFO. However it kinda just seems like Telltale randomly made Rebecca the devil in episode one just so Clementine could get that badass scene where she calls her out on her bullshit ...
S1 group had a nice vibe, but I think I would stick with S2 group in terms of survival, because there seems to be no power struggles they discuss their next steps and try to reach an agreement.
Well I will say that it is better to stay calm and be patient.
That's how I acted as Lee, I was calm and patient, but when a fight was on, I brought my A game.
I'll admit that Kenny is impetuous and stubborn, and even though we're pals it's still difficult do deal with sometimes, but when a fight is on, there's no one I'd rather have at my side in TWD.
And I'll admit, that I to was outraged by Pete's group, Rebecca particularly, wanting to stove Clementine's head in.
If I'd had been in the group, I would've been pushing for a different option.
Like perhaps locking Clementine in a vacated room, and then keeping an eye on her.
I'm just glad Pete was there to stand up for her!
But I think it was a good choice on the part of the writers.
Having a group that appears hostile, and turning out to be alright.
A total opposite to the St John's, who appeared friendly, but then you later find out how dangerous they were.
Great choice!
Season 2 group, I guess. On the condition that we get to tell Jane to take a hike. She's the only one I dislike in that group. Thankfully, that group would still have awesome guys like Luke, Nick, Carlos, Pete, and Mike in it to make staying with them worth it despite Jane's presence. Plus, Kenny's beard is a party member, and what's not to like about that?