Why do people like Kenny so much?

I don't mean to come across as a troll or anything like that, I'm just curious as to why people like Kenny so much. I'll start by listing the reasons why I don't like him:
-He didn't try to help Shaun in S1E1, I honestly don't know why he didn't help Lee once he'd pulled his son away from the walkers.

-Killed Larry in S1E2 even though Lilly pleaded that he was still alive. A bit hypocritical considering when his son was suspected of being bitten in S1E1, he fought tooth and nail to keep him alive. He is also willing to sit by and watch as Danny is about to kill you all because you didn't want to murder a man who most likely wouldn't have turned

-Endangers the group in S1E3 by refusing to stop the train even though he knows it's inevitable that his son is going to turn. Even after his own wife asks him to stop.

-S1E4 Kenny decides to become an confrontational ass and we see his true colours when his plan to find a boat goes up the smoke. To make matters worse, he refuses to help look for Clem, a girl who he's known since the start of the outbreak, because Lee didn't kiss his ass throughout the previous 3 episodes. On the off chance you convince this ass to help you find Clem, he acts like a child when you decide to take Ben along.

-S1E5 He suggests leaving Lee behind because it might slow the group down. (sound familiar?) Although I will give him credit for "sacrificing" himself for Ben/Christa.

I don't think he's that much of a badass either. In all the fights he has against non-walkers in the series (Two of them are determinant to be fair.) he has lost every single one of them.

But please feel free to argue against my points and hopefully convince me to like Kenny more

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  • I'm not even going to read this. I like everyone in the group, that's it.

  • edited June 2014

    Okay, fine. I'll "try" to convince you, even though I really couldn't care less if I fail to do so.

    • Kenny saved Clem's life in Season 2 Episode 3 by taking the blame for the Walkie Talkie. If Clem was the one who gave the walkie talkie to Carver and got beaten the way Kenny got, she would've died, a grown man can take a lot more pain and damage than a little girl.

    • If Carver chose to hold Clem at gunpoint, Kenny will stop shooting and give himself up to make sure Clem doesn't get hurt.

    • Kenny saves Christa (or) puts Ben out of his misery, despite the fact that Ben got his family killed.

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    1. Not arguing with you there, Kenny just panicked, when he could just give Duck to Katjaa and help save Shawn.

    2. We don't know that. I remember people saying that successful revival of a person with a heart attack without the medical equipment has about 5-10% of happening by best estimates. He acted too hastily, but, he was protecting the whole group in that place, in case Larry would have turned.

    3. Not arguing with you there, either. He was in denial, and it is indeed a bit hypocritical moment from him.

    4. He lost his entire family and is pretty much pissed off. The fact that he refuses/may refuse to look for Clementine, because, well, what you call "kissing his ass" happens to be supportive to him. Would you help a man who not only refused to back you up, but also refused to help you/your family? As for Ben, that boy had a deal with bandits behind the group's back! When the bandits didn't get their last package, they attacked, attracting walkers, which resulted in Duck getting bitten and Katjaa commiting suicide. If you would want to bring someone like him after what he did to your family, I don't know how to comment on that. And, besides, Kenny, in the end, learns Ben's sad story, and kinda forgives him.

    5. Because Lee is bitten, if you cut the arm off, there might be a chance, if you don't, then no. Lee would die, and his increasingly sick condition would slow them down.

    Kenny never was a badass. He was/is a man, who was hard to like, but would be your friend if you support him, would do anything to protect the people he cares about. But, he, of course, is also an impulsive and sometimes aggressive, and often acts rashly.

  • He is also willing to sit by and watch as Danny is about to kill you all because you didn't want to murder a man who most likely wouldn't have turned

    I don't think you know what "most likely" means, do you?

  • As said on the wiki "A flawed, but likable man"

    I always sided with Kenny except for killing Ben, despite that he is a good man who lost his left eye for Clementine... He's a little aggressive in

    season 2 but that's understandable due to losing many friends and his family.

    Lingvort posted: »

    * Not arguing with you there, Kenny just panicked, when he could just give Duck to Katjaa and help save Shawn. * We don't know that. I re

    1. Maybe Larry already died in the meat locker, and we all know, how fast people turn after their death. Larry is strong, and if he would die, he would kill a few people in the locker. Even though we have no idea, if his lips were moving because he was alive, or because he was reanimating.
    2. After Lee attacked Danny with a taser, in my game Kenny stabbed Danny with a sickle.
    3. Kenny was on the edge. He just refused the fact that his son will die. It is a normal reaction.
    4. In my game Kenny agreed to go with Lee to find Clem. And he was arguing about Ben because HE KILLED HIS FAMILY.
    5. Ummm... When does he suggests to leave Lee behind? I do not remember this moment.
  • Pretty simple really on why Kenny is supported more than Lilly. Kenny only acts like an antagonist to you depending on choices, then there's Lilly who no matter will betray you in the end.

    Not to mention in my playthrough Kenny always supported me, he was a real bro to Lee.

  • edited June 2014

    Ok, I've gotta admit S1 Kenny is far from the bearded God we see in S2, but I still liked him, in spite of his flaws.

    • I guess you could consider him a hypocrate for killing Larry, but he actually turns the tables on this if you previously sided with Larry. This giant douche was willing to kill a kid because he thought he might be bitten. Kenny actually points out how it's the same thing, only this time Larry's an actual danger (whether he was gonna make it or not).
    • You can't blame him for this. He was grieving. He found out a few hours earlier that his son was bitten and didn't have much time to proccess the fact that he was gonna die. Can you imagine that?
    • Again, he was grieving. But I have to admit this is the moment that I got annoyed by Kenny. His determination to find the boat was the only thing that was keeping him going (which is shown when they discover there are no usable boats in Savannah), but at times I started getting the feeling that his sanity was slipping. Still, he doesn't hold it against you if you don't side with him on his boat crusade. He just mentions it once.
    • Even if he was kind of asinine about this, he was afraid, and, to a certain extent, right. He did overreact a little, and should've probably started looking for a way out before he started going all Larry over Lee. But, just like in the meat locker, if Lee turned, they were all fucked.

    Now, as for the reason to like him:

    • He is a very loyal friend if you side with him throughout S1.
    • He helps you save Clem, whether he goes with you or not in ep4, no matter what you do.
    • Most of the bad things he does are for his family, so, even if they are wrong, I can only respect that.
    • Regarless of what you do in S1 or S2 so far, he is very loyal to Clem and protective as well (when he's not putting her in danger).
    • He trusts Clem and sees her potential. He is always the first to point out she is more than just a little girl. She's the playable character.
    • He is the only character from S1 still in the group. This might be a little shallow, but it adds up more than you think. Not only does he know and reminds us of the late Lee, but he's actually the oldest friend we have in the current group.
    • His facial hair.
  • Why do people keep fucking using the meat locker as an excuse to dislike Kenny? Larry had no chance to live. CPR only has you start breathing again so you don't suffer from any damage for not breathing. You still need something to revive the heart.

  • because there's something called having an opinion

  • Stache.

    Beard.

  • Kenny is the definition of 'murica.

  • Kennythings are awesome! Kennythings are cool when you're part of a team, Kennythings are awesome.... When Kenny is in your dream. lol.

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    Stache. Beard.

  • edited June 2014

    I agree with moist of what you say, but 2. is incorrect.

    Larry WAS alive.

    If you press on his chest enough, when helping Lilly, he breathes.

    Now some may argue it's him reanimating, but it can't be. Here's why: he only opens his mouth if you press on his chest about four or more times. If you don't push at all, he doesn't breathe, but the same time elapses.

    Reanimation into a zombie is not speeded up by pushing on someone's chest. Pushing on someone's chest can bring them back to life.

    Therefore, Larry was alive when Kenny killed him.

    That doesn't necessarily mean that Kenny was BAD to do so: he was trying to protect them. It just happens that, in that case, he was actually wrong.

    Lingvort posted: »

    * Not arguing with you there, Kenny just panicked, when he could just give Duck to Katjaa and help save Shawn. * We don't know that. I re

  • edited June 2014

    I agree with most of your points, but number one, just like the post above, is wrong.

    To repost what I said:

    Larry WAS alive.

    If you press on his chest enough, when helping Lilly, he breathes.

    Now some may argue it's him reanimating, but it can't be. Here's why: he only opens his mouth if you press on his chest about four or more times. If you don't push at all, he doesn't breathe, but the same time elapses.

    Reanimation into a zombie is not speeded up by pushing on someone's chest. Pushing on someone's chest can bring them back to life.

    Therefore, Larry was alive when Kenny killed him.

    That doesn't necessarily mean that Kenny was BAD to do so: he was trying to protect them. It just happens that, in that case, he was actually wrong.

    And with regard to point 5, he suggests trying to kill you or leave you behind because of your bite, in the attic. This is why you have the option to throw the statue at him.

    * Maybe Larry already died in the meat locker, and we all know, how fast people turn after their death. Larry is strong, and if he would die

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    She sometimes betrays you, but not always.

    If you leave her by the side of the road, she doesn't betray you.

    If you take her with you, if you've been nice to her, she apologises to you. When you turn down her offer of leaving, she lets you just walk out fine.

    That's not betrayal.

    And if you've been horrible to her like the rest of the group, then she leaves and I don't really see that as betrayal anyway because you don't like her.

    She only betrays you if you're nice to her and say you'll come with her, largely because she feels so hated by everyone in the group apart from you that she just has to leave. But that doesn't make it right.

    MayorMilk posted: »

    Pretty simple really on why Kenny is supported more than Lilly. Kenny only acts like an antagonist to you depending on choices, then there's

  • Yes, I am aware of that. Kenny acted too hastily, but it was still in group's interests (well, maybe not, if Larry was indeed alive).

    Flog61 posted: »

    I agree with moist of what you say, but 2. is incorrect. Larry WAS alive. If you press on his chest enough, when helping Lilly, he bre

  • Telltale said it was intentionally ambiguous, so it can't have been certain that he would die.

    BenUseful posted: »

    Why do people keep fucking using the meat locker as an excuse to dislike Kenny? Larry had no chance to live. CPR only has you start breathing again so you don't suffer from any damage for not breathing. You still need something to revive the heart.

  • I almost always agreed with what Kenny wanted to do so my Lee was close with him. I think the only time I didn't agree was when I chose to save Ben. And even then, Kenny kinda ended up forgiving the kid and sacrificed himself at the end, so that was pretty cool. He's also been a great friend to my Clementine in S2.

    I completely understand why some people don't like Kenny, but he's always been one of my personal favorites. I've always found his rash/angry behavior to be really entertaining. Also he has really badass facial hair.

  • Very true.

    Lingvort posted: »

    Yes, I am aware of that. Kenny acted too hastily, but it was still in group's interests (well, maybe not, if Larry was indeed alive).

  • Oh, almost forgot about that statue. Sorry.

    And yeah, maybe I am wrong with the reanimating, but I still do not blame him for that saltlick event. He did have a point and he tried to protect all the people that were in the locker.

    Flog61 posted: »

    I agree with most of your points, but number one, just like the post above, is wrong. To repost what I said: Larry WAS alive. If yo

  • I have a beard (a small one) bearded blokes need to stand together :P

  • I agree.

    Oh, almost forgot about that statue. Sorry. And yeah, maybe I am wrong with the reanimating, but I still do not blame him for that saltlick event. He did have a point and he tried to protect all the people that were in the locker.

  • i don't think carver was gonna hurt kenny like that AT ALL he did that cause kenny called him a fucker so.....yea

    Okay, fine. I'll "try" to convince you, even though I really couldn't care less if I fail to do so. * Kenny saved Clem's life in Season

  • Are you saying that the only reason he beat him up is because he called him a "fucker" ?
    Oh gosh, people these days.

    nickybello posted: »

    i don't think carver was gonna hurt kenny like that AT ALL he did that cause kenny called him a fucker so.....yea

  • Because Kenny has had proper character development.

  • They use it because from that point onward he treats you like shit (if you tried to save Larry at the meat locker obviously). After "Starved For Help", he gives you plenty of reasons to dislike him.

    BenUseful posted: »

    Why do people keep fucking using the meat locker as an excuse to dislike Kenny? Larry had no chance to live. CPR only has you start breathing again so you don't suffer from any damage for not breathing. You still need something to revive the heart.

  • In S1E1 Kenny said he had a boat and became my Lee's bestest pal.
    After Larry punched Lee leaving him for the walkers, and threatening with "you watch your ass", the first opprtunity to kill him was in the meat locker.
    I didnt need Kenny to suggest anything or care if Larry was alive or not, he tried to kill me and would do it again.
    As for Ben, and what he caused, he took a long drop. I really didnt dislike him, just had to go. (same with Sarah)
    I do think Kenny has become more aggressive and with everthing that's happened it's understandable, but it could get him killed.

  • -that was his son about to be eaten by walkers he made sure he was safe cause he about lost him

    -larry deserved it

    -he knows hes gonna loose his son but wont accept any one would act like that

    -hes greiving because he was prepared for his sons death but his wifs death pushed him over the edge youd act the same way

    -i think at this point kenny dont want to handle loosing another close friend so he trys to stop the problem before the sadness hits him even if it makes him look like an ass

  • Favorite Gamer Poop moment!

  • The meat locker again. I guess a lot of people forgot that Larry's punched Lee.

  • edited June 2014

    Was that directed at me or Nicky?

  • MrLeeMrLee Banned
    edited June 2014

    WELL DUH! IS THIS NOT ENOUGH REASON
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  • MrLeeMrLee Banned
    edited June 2014

    Well I like him but not so much but... JUST LOOK AT HIS BEARD!!! ITS GODS BEARD

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    then why did carver look angry when kenny called him a fucker? he was calm first but when kenny called him a fucker carver became mad and attacked kenny

    Are you saying that the only reason he beat him up is because he called him a "fucker" ? Oh gosh, people these days.

  • As Kenny handed the radio to him, Carver said "3" implying that he was going to count to 3 either way. Carver was going to beat him or whoever up anyway

    nickybello posted: »

    then why did carver look angry when kenny called him a fucker? he was calm first but when kenny called him a fucker carver became mad and attacked kenny

  • Larry just started breathing again, it's not like he would have just gotten up no-problems after that. You still need medical equipment to get him back to full health which they didn't have at the time.

    Flog61 posted: »

    I agree with moist of what you say, but 2. is incorrect. Larry WAS alive. If you press on his chest enough, when helping Lilly, he bre

  • edited June 2014

    No, but Lilly could have said her final goodbyes to Larry, and they could have kept him alive for long enough to prevent him being an immediate threat in the meat locker.

    Lilly wouldn't have needed to witness her father's brain getting smashed in, and her father would know he would die, thus acquitting Kenny of murder.

    Considering her father's murder was a main reason for her becoming unraveled in episode 3, a lot of unnecessary pain could have been avoided by Kenny restraining himself.

    BenUseful posted: »

    Larry just started breathing again, it's not like he would have just gotten up no-problems after that. You still need medical equipment to get him back to full health which they didn't have at the time.

  • I completely agree! Great character! Some of the lines he comes out with are great! "Listen Vanilla Ice", "Bill? Before it was carver, carver, carver, now he's fuckin' Bill?" Haha!

    Deadpoolian posted: »

    I almost always agreed with what Kenny wanted to do so my Lee was close with him. I think the only time I didn't agree was when I chose to s

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