So i just re played a chapter in Ep 4...

I wanted to get the option to tell Kenny about shooting Lee and i thought he would be all "Clem im sorry your right i shouldnt be sobbing you lost the one person that meant most to you" AND ALL I GET WAS "I dont need to hear this shit and says i dont even want to look at you Clementine" Like wtf Kenny shes 11 years old and you dont feel sympathy that Clem had to shoot the one person that mattered most to her.

If you wanna get the dialogue option u need to chose from the tent scene

Start from you cant stay here and hide
Then the next option you need to chose Carver didnt kill you like it or not
Then the next option chose i had to shoot Lee and Kenny wont give a damn :D

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  • This is what I picked. I knew I'd hate Kenny again.

  • I'm sure her parents matter to her also

  • Kenny can be a real asshole sometimes. Do you know what happens if don't shoot Lee but choose the same dialogue?

  • He'll apologize if your silent during the whole tent scene.

  • Im actually not sure maybe she says i had to leave Lee to die also cause in my play through i didnt chop Saritas arm off so i guess it can go like i had to leave Lee like you left Sarita or something like that.

    Kenny can be a real asshole sometimes. Do you know what happens if don't shoot Lee but choose the same dialogue?

  • Maybe. I always leave Lee at the end but I play on ps vita and im waiting for the whole season 2 to come out before I play it.

    bobjoeshmoe posted: »

    Im actually not sure maybe she says i had to leave Lee to die also cause in my play through i didnt chop Saritas arm off so i guess it can go like i had to leave Lee like you left Sarita or something like that.

  • I choose to leave Lee and not kill him. Sadly the dialog in Episode 2 does not reflect that choice. Clem still says she killed him whether she did or not. Unfortunately, I suspect this is not the only choice that makes no difference. This one was kind of a big event though.

    bobjoeshmoe posted: »

    Im actually not sure maybe she says i had to leave Lee to die also cause in my play through i didnt chop Saritas arm off so i guess it can go like i had to leave Lee like you left Sarita or something like that.

  • which nobody did, so yeah, Kenny is kind of an ass.

    bloop posted: »

    He'll apologize if your silent during the whole tent scene.

  • I don't blame him, he just lost his THRID loved one, I don't blame him for being pissed at Clem.

    which nobody did, so yeah, Kenny is kind of an ass.

  • Are you sure?

    Someone else said if you left Lee she said she had to leave him.

    I choose to leave Lee and not kill him. Sadly the dialog in Episode 2 does not reflect that choice. Clem still says she killed him whether

  • I don't think it's a reason, he's always trying to find someone to give blame to...even since Lee.

    bloop posted: »

    I don't blame him, he just lost his THRID loved one, I don't blame him for being pissed at Clem.

  • Maybe she felt like her actions got Lee killed. Still it's kinda annoying.

    I choose to leave Lee and not kill him. Sadly the dialog in Episode 2 does not reflect that choice. Clem still says she killed him whether

  • Believe it or not that's how some people grieve over someone death, they get really angry and blame someone else.

    I don't think it's a reason, he's always trying to find someone to give blame to...even since Lee.

  • Kenny said himself he feels better when he gets angry and

    bloop posted: »

    Believe it or not that's how some people grieve over someone death, they get really angry and blame someone else.

  • Umm, I did, none of the dialog options seemed "right" to me.

    which nobody did, so yeah, Kenny is kind of an ass.

  • Well I replayed season 1 and left Lee to die, and during the tent scene with Kenny she said: "You're not the only one who's lost people! My parents... Lee..."
    But he reacts the same way nevertheless. :3

    Maybe she felt like her actions got Lee killed. Still it's kinda annoying.

  • Thank you :)

    Well I replayed season 1 and left Lee to die, and during the tent scene with Kenny she said: "You're not the only one who's lost people! My parents... Lee..." But he reacts the same way nevertheless.

  • Oh I didn't know that part thanks :)

    Well I replayed season 1 and left Lee to die, and during the tent scene with Kenny she said: "You're not the only one who's lost people! My parents... Lee..." But he reacts the same way nevertheless.

  • Me too. There have been many times throughout this entire season where silence was the only option that seemed right to me.

    Mr_Eeuss posted: »

    Umm, I did, none of the dialog options seemed "right" to me.

  • Haha right? Why does it always jump to Lee? Sure we played as him in S1 and she grew very connected to him... but don't you think her flesh and blood parents would matter just as much as the man who saved her?

    Kryik posted: »

    I'm sure her parents matter to her also

  • Lmao sorry my bad Lee was the only person who actually really cared about her after it was hell on earth but of course her parents loved her also but im talking about when we took care of Clem and stuff :D

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Haha right? Why does it always jump to Lee? Sure we played as him in S1 and she grew very connected to him... but don't you think her flesh and blood parents would matter just as much as the man who saved her?

  • All good. Truth be told I usually do the same thing. It's hard for us to forget someone we haven't ever seen (excluding the picture, voice recording, and "BTW I'm dead" scene). Just that I'm sure Clem's character would remember them.

    bobjoeshmoe posted: »

    Lmao sorry my bad Lee was the only person who actually really cared about her after it was hell on earth but of course her parents loved her also but im talking about when we took care of Clem and stuff

  • If you don't shoot Lee and you follow the same dialogue tree, she talks about her parents.

    Kryik posted: »

    I'm sure her parents matter to her also

  • edited August 2014

    Oh :o Thankies :3 I didn't know of that. Both being mentioned makes more sense

    If you don't shoot Lee and you follow the same dialogue tree, she talks about her parents.

  • I uploaded a video of it if anyone wants to see :3

  • edited August 2014

    It sucks, the only was to get even an apology is to stay silent. But i cut him a little slack, trying to picture how i would react. Still doesn't make it right.

  • I wish that his reaction to Clementine talking about shooting Lee differed depending on Lee's loyalty to Kenny in Season 1.

  • edited August 2014

    I think it was just a case of Telltale not being bothered to create a response to that specific dialogue.. He says "I dont need to hear this shit" regardless but only if you say Your just feeling sorry for yourself.

    But it could also mean that Kenny doesn't want to be reminded of his past, Losing Lee must of had a toll on Kenny too.. Lee helped Kenny with his son and everyone looked to Lee as a leader, Regardless if you were Kenny's best friend or not he comes to his senses in the end "by sacrificing himself" He still holds a deep respect for Lee, because in season 2 he mentions it "Lee took care of my son" So if Clem mentions " Lee" he automatically thinks of his old family too..

    If you notice he looks down really sadly after Clem mentions it, but gets up and tries to shrug it off and act tough.

  • Sometimes I really wish I could be Lee so I could tell Kenny to fuck off. I love the guy, but sometimes he really does need to be told that, I.E Not coming with Lee to find Clementine if you didn't kill Larry, making a stupid plan in the truck in S2 E3, getting angry at Ben, the list goes on.

  • Ok. Here's the thing and this is actually a good example of why I think people who boast about how shitty the writing is in this episode just don't know what they're talking about:

    There were different dialogue options for you to choose and you pick one depending on how you viewed your relationship with Kenny. I didn't expect everyone of them to result in him being instantly nice to you afterwards, because it's not fair to the people who didn't like him.

    During this scene, you had a set of 3 choices; 2 of them were indirect and 1 direct.

    "Like it or not, Carver didn't kill you" (NOT good if you like him)

    • This is a direct approach.

    If you liked Kenny and you wanted your relationship with him to stay solid, saying this just didn't seem like the way to do it in the first place. I get that in desperate situations, it seems more effective to be direct and aggressive when you're trying to convince someone out of their moment of depression; but if you do choose this method and you decide to compare losses, don't be surprised if you get a negative response from whomever you were talking to.

    Obviously, bringing up something as depressing as losing parents and losing/shooting a father figure AND calling the person you're talking to an asshole? I can't say that I blame him for being pissed.

    "Rebecca needs your help/You've always helped me" (BETTER choice/s if you like him)

    • These would be indirect approaches.

    By changing the subject and reminding him of the things he's done right, you give Kenny a small chance of hope and even a bit of redemption. He's helped Clementine and he's the only who can help deliver the baby safely. Giving him a more positive outlook just seems like the better way to get on his good side.


    Was Kenny being an asshole if you do bring up Lee and Clementine's parents? Absolutely. I mean, love Kenny as a character, but this part just sucked; however, in my first playthrough I didn't pick this option because wanted to remind him how he's always helped Clementine. I liked him and I didn't want to ruin it by throwing more salt on the wound by mentioning Lee.

    Never respond to hate and anger with hate and anger, i.e., don't fight fire with fire.

  • this is actually a good example of why I think people who boast about how shitty the writing is in this episode just don't know what they're talking about

    Just because there was some good dialogue here and there doesn't make the entire writing as good as that dialogue.

    Ok. Here's the thing and this is actually a good example of why I think people who boast about how shitty the writing is in this episode jus

  • Of course, of course. Because YOU know what shitty writing is, right? By saying that, you're saying that EVERY single aspect of the whole thing was just half-assed and lazy.

    By the way while we are on the subject, how exactly was the writing in this episode shit?

    this is actually a good example of why I think people who boast about how shitty the writing is in this episode just don't know what they're

  • Of course, of course. Because YOU know what shitty writing is, right? By saying that, you're saying that EVERY single aspect of the whole th

  • Wanna know something ironic? You boasting how Telltale's gone downhill, how lazy they're getting, and how they're becoming just like AMC, in terms of half-ass writing quality...

    ...and yet you're too lazy to write a simple, rational response explaining why you don't like Season Two in you OWN words. I'm not asking for this guy's opinion, I'm asking YOU.

    http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/comment/1432255

  • Yeah i'm very lazy right now but i'm not a video game writer so i don't need to worry about being lazy, i don't even know why that comparison is relevant at all. Also i'm on my phone and can't get a computer for like another week. That thread explains about 80% of my problems with this season.

    Wanna know something ironic? You boasting how Telltale's gone downhill, how lazy they're getting, and how they're becoming just like AMC, in

  • edited August 2014

    Something funny that I noticed is that staying silent the whole way through the tent part will end up in Kenny not getting angry at you whatsoever.

  • It's relevant because you bash on people who write stories for video games for a living, and you can't even take the time write a simplified explanation of why you don't like something, especially considering how often you visit the community. You may not be getting paid, but if you want people to take you seriously, put some thought and effort into what you say.

    Seriously, just explain why you don't like Season Two instead of just saying "It's shit, the writing is shit, the character development is shit, Telltale is going down the tubes." I strongly disagree with you and think that you're expectations are why you don't like this as much as you could've (and know that it doesn't mean I'm a fucking apologist like what you said earlier), but I can at least try to understand why if you bring up some good points to support your arguments.

    As long as you know and understand what you're saying, anyone can do that in like 5 minutes. It doesn't even have to be so monotonously long like that thread you sent me. You know how long it takes to write for 90 minutes of entertainment. A lot longer than 5 minutes, I can tell you that.

    By the way, wanna try again and tell me how I don't know anything about "good and meaningful storytelling" just because I won't let Clementine's possible death in Episode Five bother me as much?

    Yeah i'm very lazy right now but i'm not a video game writer so i don't need to worry about being lazy, i don't even know why that compariso

  • I just let the guy talk. People who are grieving just need to be heard, and being silent and listening to them rant helps a lot.

  • edited August 2014

    Please explain how Kenny is right (RIGHT) in looking in a little girl's eyes, and without hesitation, calling her a "stupid FUCKING kid?" Cause I honestly (HONESTLY) don't get it. Don't give me the typical defense of "he lost his family." So did Clementine, how come an eleven (ELEVEN) year old girl has showed more resilience and can be more mature than a fucking grown (GROWN) man?

    Kenny's run fresh out of half assed excuses, he's the epitome of a shitty tantrum throwing asshole. And I'm at my end with him.

  • I think it depends how you're relationship was in season 1 with Kenny. My Lee and Kenny were not... BBF or just the relation in S2 I saw on youtube he had a calm reaction when you told him that you shot Lee... This is a interesting option

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