I take down votes as people who agree with me. Actually a lot of people thought Episode 4 was their favorite. I believe 3 days after the release when someone made a thread about Ep 4 being there favorite and it got a lot more up votes than down votes. You should know by now that down votes mean nothing. People down vote according to the poster. Im not well liked on here because I get irritated with overly stupid threads/ theories that somehow people like.
Episode 4 was the best episode you've played? I don't mean to criticize an opinion but come on! I can think of better episodes in this seaso… moren, let alone the entire series. I could get into why you're wrong, but I'll let the downvotes speak for themselves that you're indeed in a minority.
Not really. Obviously everything said is opinion on this forum, but I feel like I validated my points well enough which is why people are down voting.
The overwhelming majority of people are whining about how Nick died or how Sarita died with no characterization. These people are wrong. That is a fact. The whole point of the Walking Dead is to kill people off when least expected. The walkers don't care how "developed you character is." We all want longer episodes, more character development, and a million dollars but not one person here is being realistic.
Telltale gets FIVE episode of 2 hours (or less) to tell a story centered around Clementine. If you want to say that episodes should be longer, so there is more character development, then thats ok. Unfortunately, no one is saying that. Its impossible to develop every character in 7 hours. Honestly, I think there are just a lot of 13 year olds on here who don't understand the concept of the Walking Dead - people die and Telltale and The Walking Dead TV Show and The Walking Dead comics don't care if the character is developed or not.
You may think The Walking Dead is about shocking deaths. But its not. And characters introduced just to die are not good characters. They are boring. There is no investment in them. And even the Walking Dead understands that for the most part. Because the characters with the best and most shocking deaths? They were developed and long lasting characters so the death had impact when they were finally killed off.
Not really. Obviously everything said is opinion on this forum, but I feel like I validated my points well enough which is why people are do… morewn voting.
The overwhelming majority of people are whining about how Nick died or how Sarita died with no characterization. These people are wrong. That is a fact. The whole point of the Walking Dead is to kill people off when least expected. The walkers don't care how "developed you character is." We all want longer episodes, more character development, and a million dollars but not one person here is being realistic.
Telltale gets FIVE episode of 2 hours (or less) to tell a story centered around Clementine. If you want to say that episodes should be longer, so there is more character development, then thats ok. Unfortunately, no one is saying that. Its impossible to develop every character in 7 hours. Honestly, I think there are just a lot of 13 year olds on here who don't understand the concept o… [view original content]
Seriously do people read? Like I know many on here are on a third grade reading level but like why comment if you don't read the post? Ahh g… moreotta love the internet.
Guess what? No one urged you to comment so now YOU are complaining about someone complaining about complaining. THATS inception.
I don't know......it seems like Ep4 was a hasty rewrite to accommodate for Season 3. The change may have affected the ending of Ep3. It seems like there was supposed to be something else going on and at the last minute there was a rewrite that changed the whole direction of the season. That's why some deaths seemed cheap, why there are inconsistencies, why the episode seemed so disconnected from the rest of the season, because of the decision to make season 3. They had to narrow down the characters in preparation. It's pretty obvious the Carver arc was ended sooner than it should have. Characters like Nick and Sarah seemed like they were being built up for something, but then they changed their minds and got rid of them rather unceremoniously .
I'm just speculating, but I think their decision to make a Season 3 forced them to make major changes to the latter half of Season 2. Episode 5 will be all about setting up your story choices and characters leading in to season 3. Ep4 ended up being a bastard episode that was originally going to be the REAL end of the Carver story-arc.
Personally, I thought Ep4 was OK, but it was obvious something changed with the season's direction and episode 4 suffered for it. I also think Episode 5 will be the best of the season..
Was it ever confirmed that any episode was rewritten ? Or are we just pulling stuff out of thin air again? To me nothing changed in the Season. Have not the slightest clue where people pull these opinions out of.
I don't know......it seems like Ep4 was a hasty rewrite to accommodate for Season 3. The change may have affected the ending of Ep3. It s… moreeems like there was supposed to be something else going on and at the last minute there was a rewrite that changed the whole direction of the season. That's why some deaths seemed cheap, why there are inconsistencies, why the episode seemed so disconnected from the rest of the season, because of the decision to make season 3. They had to narrow down the characters in preparation. It's pretty obvious the Carver arc was ended sooner than it should have. Characters like Nick and Sarah seemed like they were being built up for something, but then they changed their minds and got rid of them rather unceremoniously .
I'm just speculating, but I think their decision to make a Season 3 forced them to make major changes to the latter half of Season 2. Episode 5 will be all about setting up your story choices … [view original content]
Episode 4 was the best episode you've played? I don't mean to criticize an opinion but come on! I can think of better episodes in this seaso… moren, let alone the entire series. I could get into why you're wrong, but I'll let the downvotes speak for themselves that you're indeed in a minority.
R u kidding? Waste of space? lolololol hey pal take a good look at the threads in the forum right now. Seriously go look before you comment … moreback. Ill wait. . .
Talk about a waste of space. This thread is not, however, a waste of space. If the people complaining like 4 year olds about why their favorite character died without being developed, how is THIS a waste of space?
I don't see anyone straight up complaining that Nick died. People are complaining about how characters reacted to his death. No one really even reacted to it. Same thing with Sarah, except even worse.
The worst part about killing off Nick was the fact that he was pretty much invisible as a character ever since having the option to save him back in episode two. There was almost no point in having him stick around considering he died two episodes later and was never really involved in the game at all even after saving him. Basically it was just a waste. That is what everyone is complaining about.
Not really. Obviously everything said is opinion on this forum, but I feel like I validated my points well enough which is why people are do… morewn voting.
The overwhelming majority of people are whining about how Nick died or how Sarita died with no characterization. These people are wrong. That is a fact. The whole point of the Walking Dead is to kill people off when least expected. The walkers don't care how "developed you character is." We all want longer episodes, more character development, and a million dollars but not one person here is being realistic.
Telltale gets FIVE episode of 2 hours (or less) to tell a story centered around Clementine. If you want to say that episodes should be longer, so there is more character development, then thats ok. Unfortunately, no one is saying that. Its impossible to develop every character in 7 hours. Honestly, I think there are just a lot of 13 year olds on here who don't understand the concept o… [view original content]
Was it ever confirmed that any episode was rewritten ? Or are we just pulling stuff out of thin air again? To me nothing changed in the Season. Have not the slightest clue where people pull these opinions out of.
I would certainly hope that this episode, along with the end of Ep3, was hastily rewritten, because if what they have now is exactly what they wanted from the beginning, that's just really, really sad.
I mean, seriously; we have two episodes of buildup for Carver about how he's a Big Baddie and an evil genius who tracked the cabin group for days straight, and he was foiled by... Clementine crawling around on the roof? The same person who he makes a point of mentioning how clever she is? You would think he'd watch her a little more after making a big deal of how "alike" they were. You would think he'd watch his office a little more, too, considering the fact there are guns and loud-ass speakers in there. Carver was pretty damn dumb for a guy who was supposed to be some big, evil mastermind. There's no way that's what was originally supposed to happen. And, well, if it was... It was disappointing, to say the least.
Was it ever confirmed that any episode was rewritten ? Or are we just pulling stuff out of thin air again? To me nothing changed in the Season. Have not the slightest clue where people pull these opinions out of.
I don't see anyone straight up complaining that Nick died. People are complaining about how characters reacted to his death. No one really e… moreven reacted to it. Same thing with Sarah, except even worse.
The worst part about killing off Nick was the fact that he was pretty much invisible as a character ever since having the option to save him back in episode two. There was almost no point in having him stick around considering he died two episodes later and was never really involved in the game at all even after saving him. Basically it was just a waste. That is what everyone is complaining about.
To be fair, when Nick died, the only reason Luke didn't cry was because he was in a war zone, and knew he had to control his emotions, and Rebecca bawled when she found out Nick was dead, them and Clem were the only ones in the group who really knew Nick that well. As for Sarah, when she died, Clem seemed sad, Luke shouted, Bonnie cried, Mike had a sad look on his face, and as for Rebecca, I'm sure her reaction was off camera, there appeared to be a time skip between Sarah's death, and Clem holding the baby.
I don't see anyone straight up complaining that Nick died. People are complaining about how characters reacted to his death. No one really e… moreven reacted to it. Same thing with Sarah, except even worse.
The worst part about killing off Nick was the fact that he was pretty much invisible as a character ever since having the option to save him back in episode two. There was almost no point in having him stick around considering he died two episodes later and was never really involved in the game at all even after saving him. Basically it was just a waste. That is what everyone is complaining about.
Here is my "complaint about the complaining against the complaints about the complaining of the complaints who complained about the complainers" post.... (after typing all that, I forgot what I was going to complain about).
all the 'complaint' threads can be merged with a single comment: If you don't like it and think you can do better, then write your own story. If you're really talented, publish your own game and we'll all critique it for you.
Complaining about complaining...
This is me complaining about complaining about complaining.
Are you going to complain about my complaining about complaining about complaining?
Complainception.
Here is my "complaint about the complaining against the complaints about the complaining of the complaints who complained about the complain… moreers" post.... (after typing all that, I forgot what I was going to complain about).
all the 'complaint' threads can be merged with a single comment: If you don't like it and think you can do better, then write your own story. If you're really talented, publish your own game and we'll all critique it for you.
Not really. Obviously everything said is opinion on this forum, but I feel like I validated my points well enough which is why people are do… morewn voting.
The overwhelming majority of people are whining about how Nick died or how Sarita died with no characterization. These people are wrong. That is a fact. The whole point of the Walking Dead is to kill people off when least expected. The walkers don't care how "developed you character is." We all want longer episodes, more character development, and a million dollars but not one person here is being realistic.
Telltale gets FIVE episode of 2 hours (or less) to tell a story centered around Clementine. If you want to say that episodes should be longer, so there is more character development, then thats ok. Unfortunately, no one is saying that. Its impossible to develop every character in 7 hours. Honestly, I think there are just a lot of 13 year olds on here who don't understand the concept o… [view original content]
I don't see anyone straight up complaining that Nick died. People are complaining about how characters reacted to his death. No one really e… moreven reacted to it. Same thing with Sarah, except even worse.
The worst part about killing off Nick was the fact that he was pretty much invisible as a character ever since having the option to save him back in episode two. There was almost no point in having him stick around considering he died two episodes later and was never really involved in the game at all even after saving him. Basically it was just a waste. That is what everyone is complaining about.
To be fair, when Nick died, the only reason Luke didn't cry was because he was in a war zone, and knew he had to control his emotions, and … moreRebecca bawled when she found out Nick was dead, them and Clem were the only ones in the group who really knew Nick that well. As for Sarah, when she died, Clem seemed sad, Luke shouted, Bonnie cried, Mike had a sad look on his face, and as for Rebecca, I'm sure her reaction was off camera, there appeared to be a time skip between Sarah's death, and Clem holding the baby.
Wow, what a childish response to criticism. I guess if I drive a lemon of a car, I should just build my own car from scratch. Or I could tell them what issues I'm having with my car and have them fix it. If they don't want to? Guess what, I'll buy a different car.
Here is my "complaint about the complaining against the complaints about the complaining of the complaints who complained about the complain… moreers" post.... (after typing all that, I forgot what I was going to complain about).
all the 'complaint' threads can be merged with a single comment: If you don't like it and think you can do better, then write your own story. If you're really talented, publish your own game and we'll all critique it for you.
to respond to your poor analogy... your lemon of a car is a lemon no matter who drives it. You can't give it to a neighbor and have them think "Wow, this is the greatest car ever", 'cause it's still a lemon. Writing, on the other hand, is a subjective art, along the lines of composing music or painting a picture. What might be a crappy story/song/painting to one person could be the greatest thing ever to another; so your ideas to "fix" it could ruin it for someone else.
so if you have these wonderful ideas on how to make it better, start writing and show us how much better it would be.
Wow, what a childish response to criticism. I guess if I drive a lemon of a car, I should just build my own car from scratch. Or I could tel… morel them what issues I'm having with my car and have them fix it. If they don't want to? Guess what, I'll buy a different car.
to respond to your poor analogy... your lemon of a car is a lemon no matter who drives it. You can't give it to a neighbor and have them thi… morenk "Wow, this is the greatest car ever", 'cause it's still a lemon. Writing, on the other hand, is a subjective art, along the lines of composing music or painting a picture. What might be a crappy story/song/painting to one person could be the greatest thing ever to another; so your ideas to "fix" it could ruin it for someone else.
so if you have these wonderful ideas on how to make it better, start writing and show us how much better it would be.
Ignore it? The whole point of the forums is to discuss it. Hard to ignore when you have 5 threads right now that are bashing the storyline like they're 12 year olds because someones death wasn't up to par with their expectations. Cry me a river.
Okay, but there seriously wasn't a point in making a thread. It's called ignoring it.
Complaining about complainers is the most hypocritical thing you can do. Please, sir. Get over yourself.
No, the whole point of the forums is to discuss the game. Not people complaining.
"Cry me a river." I seriously hope you're not saying that to me, but those '12 year olds'. Because if you are, that's just another hypocritical statement right there.
Ignore it? The whole point of the forums is to discuss it. Hard to ignore when you have 5 threads right now that are bashing the storyline like they're 12 year olds because someones death wasn't up to par with their expectations. Cry me a river.
Yes. I, for one, wish that my decision to save him in Ep 2 had mattered, meaning he could have contributed to the story of the season in some way, like Ben did. I would have been ok with Nick doing nothing in Ep 3 if his character arc continued to develop in Ep 4. The fact that he died, and that he died as an afterthought, regardless of my choices, was just frustrating. Same goes for Sarah
1) It was directed towards everyone who complains incessantly about a characters death. If the shoe fits, wear it.
2) No forum would exist without complaining. However the complaining on here is humerous and over blown. People saying it wasnt good writing how Nick died and than turning that into a hatred of Season 2. Like I said in the main thread, I dont care if you complain but the overwhelming majority are whining like 12 year olds saying Season 2 sucks blah blah blah. Like man up and stop making pointless threads bashing Season 2 because they did something that wasnt to your fancy.
No, the whole point of the forums is to discuss the game. Not people complaining.
"Cry me a river." I seriously hope you're not saying th… moreat to me, but those '12 year olds'. Because if you are, that's just another hypocritical statement right there.
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I take down votes as people who agree with me. Actually a lot of people thought Episode 4 was their favorite. I believe 3 days after the release when someone made a thread about Ep 4 being there favorite and it got a lot more up votes than down votes. You should know by now that down votes mean nothing. People down vote according to the poster. Im not well liked on here because I get irritated with overly stupid threads/ theories that somehow people like.
This community is so bad.Now really,who cares about this :
Nobody cares.... You don't need to make a special thread about this.
Not really. Obviously everything said is opinion on this forum, but I feel like I validated my points well enough which is why people are down voting.
The overwhelming majority of people are whining about how Nick died or how Sarita died with no characterization. These people are wrong. That is a fact. The whole point of the Walking Dead is to kill people off when least expected. The walkers don't care how "developed you character is." We all want longer episodes, more character development, and a million dollars but not one person here is being realistic.
Telltale gets FIVE episode of 2 hours (or less) to tell a story centered around Clementine. If you want to say that episodes should be longer, so there is more character development, then thats ok. Unfortunately, no one is saying that. Its impossible to develop every character in 7 hours. Honestly, I think there are just a lot of 13 year olds on here who don't understand the concept of the Walking Dead - people die and Telltale and The Walking Dead TV Show and The Walking Dead comics don't care if the character is developed or not.
Its not impossible because season 1 did it.
You may think The Walking Dead is about shocking deaths. But its not. And characters introduced just to die are not good characters. They are boring. There is no investment in them. And even the Walking Dead understands that for the most part. Because the characters with the best and most shocking deaths? They were developed and long lasting characters so the death had impact when they were finally killed off.
So you want the complaints to stop by complaining about it yourself?
But i wasn't even bashing you for it. You're the one that needs to read i never said anything negative.
I don't know......it seems like Ep4 was a hasty rewrite to accommodate for Season 3. The change may have affected the ending of Ep3. It seems like there was supposed to be something else going on and at the last minute there was a rewrite that changed the whole direction of the season. That's why some deaths seemed cheap, why there are inconsistencies, why the episode seemed so disconnected from the rest of the season, because of the decision to make season 3. They had to narrow down the characters in preparation. It's pretty obvious the Carver arc was ended sooner than it should have. Characters like Nick and Sarah seemed like they were being built up for something, but then they changed their minds and got rid of them rather unceremoniously .
I'm just speculating, but I think their decision to make a Season 3 forced them to make major changes to the latter half of Season 2. Episode 5 will be all about setting up your story choices and characters leading in to season 3. Ep4 ended up being a bastard episode that was originally going to be the REAL end of the Carver story-arc.
Personally, I thought Ep4 was OK, but it was obvious something changed with the season's direction and episode 4 suffered for it. I also think Episode 5 will be the best of the season..
Yea guys, calm yourself. Thanks AmazinAura
You were bashing my thread . . . do you not see how those things correlate ?
Yes.
Was it ever confirmed that any episode was rewritten ? Or are we just pulling stuff out of thin air again? To me nothing changed in the Season. Have not the slightest clue where people pull these opinions out of.
Having a minority opinion doesn't mean that opinion is incorrect/ wrong.
I think we broke Kirbinator.
Yep, I am defeated. LOLOLOL.
I don't see anyone straight up complaining that Nick died. People are complaining about how characters reacted to his death. No one really even reacted to it. Same thing with Sarah, except even worse.
The worst part about killing off Nick was the fact that he was pretty much invisible as a character ever since having the option to save him back in episode two. There was almost no point in having him stick around considering he died two episodes later and was never really involved in the game at all even after saving him. Basically it was just a waste. That is what everyone is complaining about.
Rayder said that he was just speculating.
I would certainly hope that this episode, along with the end of Ep3, was hastily rewritten, because if what they have now is exactly what they wanted from the beginning, that's just really, really sad.
I mean, seriously; we have two episodes of buildup for Carver about how he's a Big Baddie and an evil genius who tracked the cabin group for days straight, and he was foiled by... Clementine crawling around on the roof? The same person who he makes a point of mentioning how clever she is? You would think he'd watch her a little more after making a big deal of how "alike" they were. You would think he'd watch his office a little more, too, considering the fact there are guns and loud-ass speakers in there. Carver was pretty damn dumb for a guy who was supposed to be some big, evil mastermind. There's no way that's what was originally supposed to happen. And, well, if it was... It was disappointing, to say the least.
People were also complaining about how he died too.
Oh look, another OP that misses the point of honest criticism.
Just in of itself though?
Carlos was killed last episode lol
Complaining about complaining...
This is me complaining about complaining about complaining.
Are you going to complain about my complaining about complaining about complaining?
Complainception.
To be fair, when Nick died, the only reason Luke didn't cry was because he was in a war zone, and knew he had to control his emotions, and Rebecca bawled when she found out Nick was dead, them and Clem were the only ones in the group who really knew Nick that well. As for Sarah, when she died, Clem seemed sad, Luke shouted, Bonnie cried, Mike had a sad look on his face, and as for Rebecca, I'm sure her reaction was off camera, there appeared to be a time skip between Sarah's death, and Clem holding the baby.
Here is my "complaint about the complaining against the complaints about the complaining of the complaints who complained about the complainers" post.... (after typing all that, I forgot what I was going to complain about).
all the 'complaint' threads can be merged with a single comment: If you don't like it and think you can do better, then write your own story. If you're really talented, publish your own game and we'll all critique it for you.
Mind = Blown.
Okay, but there seriously wasn't a point in making a thread. It's called ignoring it.
Complaining about complainers is the most hypocritical thing you can do. Please, sir. Get over yourself.
Actually, people are complaining about how he died since it was off screen.
Wait, wait, wait. Bonnie cried? When?
All I said is people are on their inception shit I don't know about you but i thought that was a good movie.
Wow, what a childish response to criticism. I guess if I drive a lemon of a car, I should just build my own car from scratch. Or I could tell them what issues I'm having with my car and have them fix it. If they don't want to? Guess what, I'll buy a different car.
to respond to your poor analogy... your lemon of a car is a lemon no matter who drives it. You can't give it to a neighbor and have them think "Wow, this is the greatest car ever", 'cause it's still a lemon. Writing, on the other hand, is a subjective art, along the lines of composing music or painting a picture. What might be a crappy story/song/painting to one person could be the greatest thing ever to another; so your ideas to "fix" it could ruin it for someone else.
so if you have these wonderful ideas on how to make it better, start writing and show us how much better it would be.
@InfiniteDawn You can barely see it, but at 2:47 on the video, you see her shaking as if crying.
I'm the one with the poor analogy? Hahah, oh wow
They are ?
Ignore it? The whole point of the forums is to discuss it. Hard to ignore when you have 5 threads right now that are bashing the storyline like they're 12 year olds because someones death wasn't up to par with their expectations. Cry me a river.
No, the whole point of the forums is to discuss the game. Not people complaining.
"Cry me a river." I seriously hope you're not saying that to me, but those '12 year olds'. Because if you are, that's just another hypocritical statement right there.
Valid criticism =/= complaining.
Yes. I, for one, wish that my decision to save him in Ep 2 had mattered, meaning he could have contributed to the story of the season in some way, like Ben did. I would have been ok with Nick doing nothing in Ep 3 if his character arc continued to develop in Ep 4. The fact that he died, and that he died as an afterthought, regardless of my choices, was just frustrating. Same goes for Sarah
1) It was directed towards everyone who complains incessantly about a characters death. If the shoe fits, wear it.
2) No forum would exist without complaining. However the complaining on here is humerous and over blown. People saying it wasnt good writing how Nick died and than turning that into a hatred of Season 2. Like I said in the main thread, I dont care if you complain but the overwhelming majority are whining like 12 year olds saying Season 2 sucks blah blah blah. Like man up and stop making pointless threads bashing Season 2 because they did something that wasnt to your fancy.