The Great Escape ....
I'm sure this has been gone over before .... but Carlos and Sarita .... how did they get bit when both of them kept there cool when walking thru the herd ??
Even when Sarita was being bit she wasent making a sound ... Just looking at Clem ?
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Carlos got popped from a guard
Maybe she wasn't covered well enough. Maybe she made a bit too much noise when she was yelling through the crowd. Mike and Kenny had to take out some walkers that noticed the survivors on their way through the herd, remember? Maybe she just messed up when she was trying to take care of a walker that noticed her.
Carlos was hit by a bullet, knocking him over. This attracted the walkers around him and they attacked.
Sarah's screams alerted the walkers around them and Sarita started killing so they wouldn't hurt the girls. She had probably gone into shock when she was being bit. Also keep in mind that it went into slow motion, so she likely was not being silent for that long (especially if you chose to cut off her arm).
The real answer is inconsistency and contrivance - it's why Kenny can survive standing over Sarita's corpse and screaming at Clem, and how Luke and Nick can run through an entire horde just to pursue a small teenage girl.
But Carlos died because he got his throat shot out. He screamed in pain and lost his footing, bumping into zombies who immediately devoured him alive. Sarita, on the other hand, was thrashing around struggling to kill every zombie that had been alerted by Sarah. That would have made some noise.
Carlos was hit by a bullet ? I thought a zombie bit him on the neck real quick and he fell over
He got shot through the neck by one of Carver's people. They were up on the roof.
It was both...
Bullet came first, though.
As soon as Carlos got shot and devoured, Sarita came over to help, she then seemed to try and flee away from a Walker, which may have been the potential Walker that bit her or she may have accidentally bumped into a Walker.
Man... Tell Tale really makes us think... I bet they enjoy this...
It's all Sarah`s fault ... You can all hate me now
Carlos got shot in the neck and stumbled, so that probably made some noise that attracted some zombies to him.
Sarita probably bumped into a zombie and it bit her.
Yeah, her fault for reacting when her father is violently killed in front of her.
You might as well blame Sarita for her own death if she screams due to you cutting her arm off.
You should blame Tavia for (accidentally) killing Carlos and Nick, if anything.
She indirectly caused Sarita's death.
Then again, it's Carlos' fault... Had he not died, Alot of people would still be alive.
You aren't completely wrong, it was the whole group's fault. They made the decision to leave Howe's Hardware Store for their own selfish desires, I know, Carver was a big bad guy, didn't seem like he was completely disliked by the other members of his Community, and we don't know the past, but the group made the choice to go through the herd, not only did they manage to get Carlos, Nick(determinantly), Sarah, Rebecca and Sarita killed or Jane left thanks to them, but they put the lives of the whole Community at risk, those were people trying to survive... they were left for dead... and there was a chance that the herd of Walkers could've strolled past the Community and then they could've escaped, they did it before...
They were desperate and wanted to leave immediately, even though Luke was reasonable enough to suggest waiting and/or leaving a comatose man behind in order to make their escape better. People crucified him for suggesting that.
Desperate for what? How is living under temporary labour any worse than having to constantly watch your back, feed your group, find shelter, move on all the time in a world where the dead can walk? Rebecca would have been better taken care of in the Community, Carlos was a doctor and the group got him killed not to mention he wanted to protect Sarah, but keeping her somewhere safer than the outside world seems more logical in my opinion, they only wanted to escape the Community because of Carver's affair with Rebecca and his rivalry with Luke. Luke was smart to think of staying until everyone was better, the herd would've gone through and they could've managed a better escape without risking allot of lives.
They were desperate because Carver went berserk and nearly beat a man to death - something that disturbed even a fan-girl like Bonnie. It's an indication that he was only going to become more unstable and present a danger to the community as a whole. The group also decided to use the horde's presence as a cover for their escape, disregarding the damage it'd cause to any bystanders.
Let's remember that it's hinted that hordes have come through before, and Luke's group caused some damage to the community which hardened everyone in it. I'm willing to bet that they actually took advantage of the chaos of a previous horde attack on the store and left immediately afterwards.
I understand their intentions, but whose to say that the Cabin group didn't cause Carver to become a psychopath, we really only see Carver as an antagonist because he opposes our protagonist, if we played the game in Carver's perspective, whose to say we'd find out that he was more of a protagonist who had become mentally ill? Carver nearly beat Kenny to death because of his own emotions, something that has happened before with characters such as Lilly who shot Carley, and Kenny who wanted Ben dead, their judgements were blinded by their emotions, also, by the look on the faces of Carver's accomplices, they seemed to have only began to get used to how Carver is, giving some indication that the Cabin group escaping may have had something to do with how Carver is now.
I know they were trying to survive, but killing a Community of innocent lives, some what similar to Woodbury, the group has gone astray from their humanity and have took the route of survival, once your humanity is gone, a part of who you used to be is gone, and you can never truly take that back.
For what it's worth, the fates of the communities of both Woodbury and Howe's Hardware still hasn't been confirmed. It's implied from an upcoming novel series that Woodbury-Lilly will save her fellow survivors, and for all we know the 400 Days group could have escaped too.
Tavia's likely to be dead, though. Which is good because it's implied that she was the one who shot Carlos and Nick.
Carlos got shot, he fell over and they noticed
Sarita ran back to Kenny, if you run they'll notice you.
I feel as though it would be better if Tavia becomes the new leader of the 400 Days group, and even if the 400 Days characters didn't come with her, she could still end up bumping into their camp/settlement and her story can still end the same.
As some fans have pointed out already, the presence of magical teleporting zombies on the roof sneaking up on Tavia and her crew while distracted indicates that she's likely to be a goner.
It'd be nice if the DLC involved a new character trying to escape the community. It'd provide better insight into the kind of people Carver's followers were, and maybe even lead into Season 3.
Sarah's reaction to her father's death is not her fault, we humans can't always control our emotions, especially for those who we share a special bond with.
Sarah's death in the trailer park was not really her fault, it was more of Jane, Luke and Clementine's.
Sarah's death at the observation deck wasn't really her fault either, the group obviously didn't pay much attention to Sarah and the state she was in, they did show care for her, but I think they would've managed to save her... I mean they all just stood there... there were like 10-20 Walkers... Michonne has taken out more than that many alone.... all clumped together....
The irony about the zombie attack on the observation deck is that it wasn't even very dangerous. It was only a couple dozen or so, which is peanuts compared to a horde. It's telling that if you left Sarah at the trailer park, no one died.
What the group could have simply done was turn the staircase into a choke-point and kill a zombie or two to make it harder for the rest of the pack to climb up.
Or they could've just went up the staircase and locked the door... seriously though, no Walkers seemed to try getting through the door at the bottom...
I wouldn't mind a DLC that told us the story of:
Someone who is considered a liability among their group.
Someone who ends up surviving alone.
Someone who becomes the leader of a Community.
Someone who was trying to find a cure or the cause of the apocalypse.
Someone apart of the military.
I now have the idea of having a "1000 Days" DLC foreshadowing characters who are all headed to Wellington.
It'd be interesting if Season 3's protagonist was a survivor from Carver's community who ends up at Wellington, and finds a girl who was among the people who killed their friends and family when she escaped...
Neat! I've actually been making my own fanfiction for a DLC called 'The Forgotten', a group of people who find their way to Wellington, each person struggles differently, I've been thinking of Tavia's story kind of, but I guess it'd be better if it was someone we didn't know who was apart of the Community? Maybe one of the people who made small apearances and had little dialogue? Not the 400 Days characters though...
You can look through the wiki and use one of the random survivors listed in the wiki. For some reason Telltale gives names to every character in Season 2, even if they don't have any lines or mention their name.
There's also the fanfic "Into The Fray", which provides one possible story about how the 400 Days survivors and a few other people fared following their escape.
I've got ideas for 3 characters, but I guess I should read other peoples' fanfiction to get some ideas, of course I won't steal any or use any without permission and acknowledging the person who made it.
It seems like not allot of people like the idea of playing as someone who wants to discover the cure, idk why though, we never really get to see the world in the perspective of a scientist or someone from the military... there has to be allot more groups out there... right?
Watch the movie "Day of the Dead." It's about a bunker in Florida populated by a few scientists and soldiers who are convinced they are the last people on Earth. The scientists run tests on the zombies, but there are also hints that there may be a supernatural cause to the dead rising.
It might be interesting for an off-beat DLC to feature an underground laboratory where containment fails and the survivors literally have nowhere to escape the zombies. But I doubt this will have any bearing on Season 3's plot (Kirkman himself has no interest in looking for a 'cure' and Telltale cannot do anything that contradicts his mythos), so it's likely not to happen.
I was thinking for my fan-fiction that one tough decision for a scientist's story could be:
Hope:
Did you upload the files or leave straight away?
Depending on the decision, the scientist would escape with a different group.
That's like saying "It's everyone's fault for dying in the zombie apocalypse"
no.
Lol, you reminded me of this song with the title of the thread (fangasm intensifies):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwLV52Ut048