Race and Racism

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  • Why do you not want it?

    It just means when someone looks at a white person or a black person or a chinese person, they just see...people. Because that's who we are, and thats what matters, not our race.

    If race is irrelevant and you don't wish to ever be treated differently for it, why on earth would you be against having a society which treats it as such?

    i don't want race or gender blind society. acknowledge the fact that i'm black but don't treat me differently because of it.

  • The evidence we have so far, with the work liberals have been doing for the last 100 years, suggests things will keep getting better.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    I really do think it is, but I'm not trying to be negative, it's just how I see it, especially on the internet... I hope you're right..

  • Just going to leave this here. I was being driven somewhere and on a stop sign below Stop was racism. :D

  • Yeah we have made a lot of progress, but making it vanish seems impossible to me.

    Flog61 posted: »

    The evidence we have so far, with the work liberals have been doing for the last 100 years, suggests things will keep getting better.

  • I don't know why it should be.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    Yeah we have made a lot of progress, but making it vanish seems impossible to me.

  • because you can acknowledge someone's race and not be racist. don't wash away the fact that i'm black. a lot of people are proud of what they are so don't take that away from them. oh i like this thing Kerry Washington said about a post-racial society:

    “I don’t believe in post-racial. It’s like saying we should live in a post-gender world. But I love being a woman! I am interested in living in a post-sexist world and feel the same about race. I don’t want to live in a post-race world because being black is really exciting.

    I mean…” [she laughs] “it’s who I am. I’m a woman, black, from New York, Aquarius – these are things that create who I am. I’m interested in living in a post-racist world, where being African American doesn't dictate limitations on what I can do – but I don’t want to live post-race.

    Our differences are so fascinating and wonderful. We don’t want to all be the same. Who wants that? Hitler did, but who else?”

    i'm not talking about gender but the statement still stands.

    Flog61 posted: »

    Why do you not want it? It just means when someone looks at a white person or a black person or a chinese person, they just see...people.

  • Kerry washington seems to not understand the concepts she's talking about, as living in a post gender world doesn't mean you aren't a woman. Living in a post gender world means we don't associate any character attributes with gender.

    That is to say, there's no such thing as a 'proper male' or 'proper female' brain. There's no reason why being an aggressive female makes you less female, or being a passive male makes you less male. They're just leftovers from our bestial days, as is racism.

    Post racial doesn't mean you stop being black. It means people stop associating things with any particular race. It's the total and compelte lack of racism, where race is seen as completely and utterly irrelevant to what one's personality is.

    because you can acknowledge someone's race and not be racist. don't wash away the fact that i'm black. a lot of people are proud of what the

  • That's awesome!

    Just going to leave this here. I was being driven somewhere and on a stop sign below Stop was racism.

  • edited October 2014

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    What really pisses me off is when some people hate one of homophobia/sexism/racism but not all three. Like, they're the exact same concepts at heart.

  • eh...i disagree. race does form your personality. race,gender,sexuality and regilion form how you see the world and how the world sees you. i'm not saying race is the only that forms your personality but it is a part of it.

    Flog61 posted: »

    Kerry washington seems to not understand the concepts she's talking about, as living in a post gender world doesn't mean you aren't a woman.

  • race does form your personality

    Oh wow, no.

    racism
    ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/Submit
    noun
    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

    Thinking race forms your personality is racism in itself, so I really don't think you mean that.

    eh...i disagree. race does form your personality. race,gender,sexuality and regilion form how you see the world and how the world sees you. i'm not saying race is the only that forms your personality but it is a part of it.

  • Are they? Homophobia is an irrational fear/hate of homosexuals, while sexism and racism are not always those. The latter two are more of an objectification, a misguided belief that a person is somehow inferior to another due to their skin color/gender, that they cannot do certain things because of it, or, on the opposite, are more inclined to do them. Homophobia, on the other hand, is a form of bigotry, which can be said about the other two, but, unlike them, homophobia is based not on stereotypes and misguided beliefs, but on irrational fear and lack of understanding. Therefore, I don't consider them to be the same. Not to a full extent, anyway. That's, however, just my opinion.

    I'm sorry in advance if I'm explaining those to you, since you know what they already, but I had to address this point through explaining them.

    Flog61 posted: »

    What really pisses me off is when some people hate one of homophobia/sexism/racism but not all three. Like, they're the exact same concepts at heart.

  • that's not what i meant at all. all races aren't same there are some things that one race does that another doesn't.
    like certain cultural traditions. i hope that makes sense.

    Flog61 posted: »

    race does form your personality Oh wow, no. racism ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/Submit noun the belief that all members of each race possess ch

  • edited October 2014

    In the context of modern society, homophobia is to gay people what racism is to ethnic minorities and what sexism is to men and women.

    Homophobia in it's actual and not etymological definition is a misguided belief that a person is somehow inferior to another due to their sexuality, that they cannot do certain things because of it, or, on the opposite, are more inclined to do them.

    Homophobia can totally be based on stereotypes (hello, have you not seen the way gay men are often portrayed by the media? Or the way male dancers are often assumed to be gay?)

    What you're saying makes no sense. Racism and sexism are also based on irrational fears and lack of understanding. That's how stereotypes and misguided beliefs are born.

    The only way they can be named as different is that homophobia is more accepted over the world (as in, you can legally be killed for being gay, which doesnt happen with race or sex), but that's sort of irrelevant to what they each describe.

    Lingvort posted: »

    Are they? Homophobia is an irrational fear/hate of homosexuals, while sexism and racism are not always those. The latter two are more of an

  • Very well. I won't argue with you over it. If what I say makes no sense, fine, then so be it.

    Flog61 posted: »

    In the context of modern society, homophobia is to gay people what racism is to ethnic minorities and what sexism is to men and women. Ho

  • How are you gonna tell me about race? You're white!

    How can they talk about race?

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    Flog61 posted: »

    race does form your personality Oh wow, no. racism ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/Submit noun the belief that all members of each race possess ch

  • I hope thats sarcasm...

    How are you gonna tell me about race? You're white! How can they talk about race?

  • its not. how can a white person tell be about race? they can research and get first hand accounts but they don't experience.

    its like how can a chef tell a mechanic to fix an engine?

    I hope thats sarcasm...

  • Wow...I'm not even... Wow...

    its not. how can a white person tell be about race? they can research and get first hand accounts but they don't experience. its like how can a chef tell a mechanic to fix an engine?

  • you can't tell me what's it like to be discriminated against because of race.

    look you're 14 and you're blind to what's happening because its not a part of your life. its not something you have to deal with or worry about.

    Wow...I'm not even... Wow...

  • Sure, yup, keep going.

    I hoped it was sarcasm...I was wrong. I'm not going to argue with you again because I always know how that ends. I'm out.

    you can't tell me what's it like to be discriminated against because of race. look you're 14 and you're blind to what's happening because its not a part of your life. its not something you have to deal with or worry about.

  • edited October 2014

    damn stop punkin' out everytime something gets a little hard. listen to what i'm saying.

    Sure, yup, keep going. I hoped it was sarcasm...I was wrong. I'm not going to argue with you again because I always know how that ends. I'm out.

  • Nope.

    damn stop punkin' out everytime something gets a little hard. listen to what i'm saying.

  • Its your opinion, not the "Truth" as you like to claim. If you respond to this, i'm not.

    why not?

  • I don't reject the opinion of straight people about gay rights, and I hope you wouldn't do the same to white people about racial rights.

    How are you gonna tell me about race? You're white! How can they talk about race?

  • I was reading this article and I wanted to see what you guys think about it.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/colorblind/201112/colorblind-ideology-is-form-racism

    Reply to this comment with your thoughts.

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