Lol, you have lots of nerves buddy. Of course vault content is worth billions of dollars if vault key to open it is worth billion of dollars. Wording doesnt change the fact you are wrong all along. You are just not able to admit being wrong because you are that kind of person that is never ever wrong.
just checked it he is talking about how much he thinks the the vault keys themselves are not what is inside the vault look its ok to admit you are wrong bud especially when you clearly are new to the series
I dont have any other point except that I dislike the game. Its my opinion and my right to dislike something and your right to keep arguing about it. I cannot do nothing about it.
yea i was wrong but you weren't showing any proof at all so how can i admit i was wrong? you were being a smartass instead of showing proof
look in this series we have been in three vaults i can tell you from now what we have found is not worth that much we have only found these all of which were destroyed because you know they are trying to kill you
and also some guns but that is it you clearly can't admit you are wrong about what is actually inside a vault
Lol, you have lots of nerves buddy. Of course vault content is worth billions of dollars if vault key to open it is worth billion of dollars… more. Wording doesnt change the fact you are wrong all along. You are just not able to admit being wrong because you are that kind of person that is never ever wrong.
You proved that you were wrong by youself. By picture you posted with that line mentioning billions dollars you totally forgot about. You mocked me for that line earlier forgetting it was something mentioned in game.
Of course that content of vault is worth billion of dollars. In the 1st game you kill Destroyer monster and Handsome Jack gets Eye of Destroyer in Borderalnds Pre Sequel. That is item worth billion of dollars. Becase it's superweapon material. Which also makes vault key worth billion of dollars, because you cannot get eye without key. Get it?
but you said vaughn said there must be billions of dollars worth IN the vault when clearly he was talking about the key being worth that much and again the actual content of the vault isn't worth that all all just because the key is the only reason the vault keys are expensive is because the only thing known about them is that there is alien tech in there (which would be the monsters) so of course it is expensive imagine what bandits and other types of people would want to do with alien tech but those people don't know the true contents of it anyway i am done you are doing nothing but restating the same shit i was wrong now i can admit it because the proof was there but you are taking it in the wrong way i'm done no point arguing with someone about vaults when they haven't even played the original games
You proved that you were wrong by youself. By picture you posted with that line mentioning billions dollars you totally forgot about. You mo… morecked me for that line earlier forgetting it was something mentioned in game.
Of course that content of vault is worth billion of dollars. In the 1st game you kill Destroyer monster and Handsome Jack gets Eye of Destroyer in Borderalnds Pre Sequel. That is item worth billion of dollars. Becase it's superweapon material. Which also makes vault key worth billion of dollars, because you cannot get eye without key. Get it?
I dont have any other point except that I dislike the game. Its my opinion and my right to dislike something and your right to keep arguing about it. I cannot do nothing about it.
Mate, I havent played original games before started this thread. But, I said afterwards that I inted to play all three games before I play Tales once again. Im now finished Borderlands 1 and playing Borderlands Pre Sequel. So, I have pretty good and clear picture how valuable content of vault is for those two games. As I already explained in my previous postings.
You are stuborn man. Your failed to remeber about Vaughn mentioning billion of dollars worth but now you claiming your brain didnt functioned only because that statment mention key and not vault directly. You claim that I dont have knowledge of this universe at all but you seems that you dont have common sense and enough mind to deduce simple truth that key could be only worth because content of vault. Have you played Borderlands and Borderlands Pre Sequel? Those two games clearly established that your character in Borderlands was manipulated by Handsome Jack and his siren daughter Angel in order to get billions of worth Eye of The Destroyer item.
Or you have played those games and failed to deduce it, even if its so apparent? One of those two things. I think you next posting will help me to determine which one.
but you said vaughn said there must be billions of dollars worth IN the vault when clearly he was talking about the key being worth that muc… moreh and again the actual content of the vault isn't worth that all all just because the key is the only reason the vault keys are expensive is because the only thing known about them is that there is alien tech in there (which would be the monsters) so of course it is expensive imagine what bandits and other types of people would want to do with alien tech but those people don't know the true contents of it anyway i am done you are doing nothing but restating the same shit i was wrong now i can admit it because the proof was there but you are taking it in the wrong way i'm done no point arguing with someone about vaults when they haven't even played the original games
Never played Borderlands till the demo of this Telltale series, but I get where people here are coming from. I'm pretty cool with it, including how currency is handled in the universe. The demo was fun and interesting, I wouldn't let one little problem ruin the whole thing for me.
but you said vaughn said there must be billions of dollars worth IN the vault when clearly he was talking about the key being worth that muc… moreh and again the actual content of the vault isn't worth that all all just because the key is the only reason the vault keys are expensive is because the only thing known about them is that there is alien tech in there (which would be the monsters) so of course it is expensive imagine what bandits and other types of people would want to do with alien tech but those people don't know the true contents of it anyway i am done you are doing nothing but restating the same shit i was wrong now i can admit it because the proof was there but you are taking it in the wrong way i'm done no point arguing with someone about vaults when they haven't even played the original games
Okay, didn't Jennifer and HandsomeJack already explain that to you on why paper money was used and why it was ten million dollars?
Seriously, it's like you just can't accept messing up, it was a shady deal and it was Hyperion money and using digital money would be risky, and besides this is not future earth, this is Pandora and Borderlands, a combination of a western and sci-fi, so don't expect any real hard science fiction.
Ten million dollars is NOT cheap, and August was the one who asked ten million dollars not Fiona, they were conning both parties out of their money. No, it is your rules, you keep whining and putting up these ridiculous claims that money shouldn't work this way in this universe and oh, why didn't these characters do what I wanted them to do in this universe, YOU ARE STILL BEING RIDICULOUS, These rules have sense to me, you're just being stupid about it.
No, its not "my rules". I have nothing to do with it. Its rules of universe and logic of that universe as it shown is game which game itself… more breaks.
How come no one on Hyperion asks why they need to bring paper cash in hostile planet and refuse to do it as being too risky? It just doesnt make sense in a way common sense and logic function. If they only put it that way, but for some unexplable reason it never even crossed their mind then Fiona and company would say "ok then just bring you credid card".
Plus, it even makes less sense knowing they just rejected possibilty to Hyperion pay them lot more then 10 million dollars.
Why? Game doesnt expalain any of this, just ask you to unquestionably trust its own rules.
Well, you know what? Sorry but I cannot trust any of rules fictional universe establish that doest have sense. Just because characters accept "rules" and doest ask any question about it doesnt makes it logical in a sense t… [view original content]
Also according to the game, you need Vault Keys to open a Vault, and when the Vault Key turns out to be fake, real 10 million bucks doesn't seem so bad.
No, it has nothing to do with "ME". Im just commenting what been said in "Tales of Borderlands. You know, game you are commenting here? Play… moreed it?
Game claimed that content of vault is far more valuable then 10 millions. More like billions of dollar of worth.
Well, I see these "rules" as poor atempt to go around plot holes and characterisation issues.
I will go once again though it and explain in more details why I think this game is biggest Telltale misscarriage ever once after Im done with original Borderline games. Then I will go scene by scene of Tales and explain all flows, even more of them then I covered originally by this thread.
I think I will be able to do it before episode 2 is released but if not so I will cover both episodes and cover plot holes in both (if Telltale continues with poor writting in episode 2).
Okay, didn't Jennifer and HandsomeJack already explain that to you on why paper money was used and why it was ten million dollars?
Serio… moreusly, it's like you just can't accept messing up, it was a shady deal and it was Hyperion money and using digital money would be risky, and besides this is not future earth, this is Pandora and Borderlands, a combination of a western and sci-fi, so don't expect any real hard science fiction.
Ten million dollars is NOT cheap, and August was the one who asked ten million dollars not Fiona, they were conning both parties out of their money. No, it is your rules, you keep whining and putting up these ridiculous claims that money shouldn't work this way in this universe and oh, why didn't these characters do what I wanted them to do in this universe, YOU ARE STILL BEING RIDICULOUS, These rules have sense to me, you're just being stupid about it.
Its seems very bad from point of player because Telltale promised us more and then let us believe that what we had to start with (10 million dollars) is enough motivation to play the game. By my opinion its not. Its failure to deliver proper motivation to players once vault key turned to be fake. Writters simply have poor writting skills. Im sorry but there is no other way to put it. I would understad if they become so lost at episode 5, when they have too much thread to follow but in starting episode I dont have any excuse for them and frankly, I dont see why anyone should have.
Also according to the game, you need Vault Keys to open a Vault, and when the Vault Key turns out to be fake, real 10 million bucks doesn't seem so bad.
I have to say that, while I don't respect how you've handled yourself in this thread, I have to give you props for going out and buying/playing two games from the same franchise as the game you've spent over a week complaining about.
It will be interesting to hear if your opinion on Tales changes once you've fully immersed yourself in the universe.
I dont have any other point except that I dislike the game. Its my opinion and my right to dislike something and your right to keep arguing about it. I cannot do nothing about it.
As I've said already I'm fan of TellTales, buying/playing all games even most obscure ones from company beginnings and worst ones like Jurassic Park. Every single game. So, why to stop now? I supported Telltales all these years during period of their rise, these new titles I see as company slowly but surely going down (TWD season 2, TTFB, GOT).
Hope my comments will help them to see their errors and get back to old road.
I have to say that, while I don't respect how you've handled yourself in this thread, I have to give you props for going out and buying/play… moreing two games from the same franchise as the game you've spent over a week complaining about.
It will be interesting to hear if your opinion on Tales changes once you've fully immersed yourself in the universe.
Happy looting, Kiddo.
Yeah, I get (and appreciate) you supporting Telltale - but to then take it a step further by buying two Gearbox games if you seemingly didn't like the source material?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's wonderful that you're willing to give them a chance and trying to immerse yourself in the universe - but it just strikes me as odd that you'd spend your hard-earned (non-paper :P) cash on something that you clearly (not to mention publicly) disliked.
As I've said already I'm fan of TellTales, buying/playing all games even most obscure ones from company beginnings and worst ones like Juras… moresic Park. Every single game. So, why to stop now? I supported Telltales all these years during period of their rise, these new titles I see as company slowly but surely going down (TWD season 2, TTFB, GOT).
Hope my comments will help them to see their errors and get back to old road.
Im not from those unsatified customers once dissapointed never buys again. Im true fan of adventure genre. Bought/played probable more Telltale games that you ever will. Just because I bought/played them all.
Not many companies like telltale around in world of adventure games. Maybe only Daedalic Entertainment.
My really most anticipated game to come is Thimbleweed Park. But, its announced into 2016. What to do until then, by your opinion? Not buy/play adventure games just because major company that makes got to confident in their success so decided to hire bad writters? Well, I dont think so.
Yeah, I get (and appreciate) you supporting Telltale - but to then take it a step further by buying two Gearbox games if you seemingly didn'… moret like the source material?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's wonderful that you're willing to give them a chance and trying to immerse yourself in the universe - but it just strikes me as odd that you'd spend your hard-earned (non-paper :P) cash on something that you clearly (not to mention publicly) disliked.
Im not from those unsatified customers once dissapointed never buys again. Im true fan of adventure genre. Bought/played probable more Tellt… moreale games that you ever will. Just because I bought/played them all.
Not many companies like telltale around in world of adventure games. Maybe only Daedalic Entertainment.
My really most anticipated game to come is Thimbleweed Park. But, its announced into 2016. What to do until then, by your opinion? Not buy/play adventure games just because major company that makes got to confident in their success so decided to hire bad writters? Well, I dont think so.
Ugh, I told myself I wouldn't get involved in this thread (whispers: because it's ridiculous), but I just did a different play-through and t… morehey actually address the paper money issue as part of the plot.
If you ask August to try and get more money from Vasquez he says that $10 million is the most he can get off him in cash, and that he only wants cash because (as others in this thread have quite logically pointed out) there's no paper trail.
Wait, doesn't that answer two of your gripes? The amount of money issue and the paper money issue?
While I'm at it, may I take aim at this statement:
"So, its kind of unsmart and unimaginative to use it [paper money] in any futuristic concept. Because it shows that writers are uniformed about modern world and its main problems."
See, the key word you used there is 'concept' - our interpretations of the future can be nothing more than that, and in fact, Borderland's has a very clear … [view original content]
There really isn't any plot holes or any mis characterizations in any fashion in how the characters act, you can actually have Fiona ask for more money in chapter 2 at least in my opinion. I'll definitely keep track of your scene by scene of the episode, as I think it'll crop up more evidence of making yourself look even more like a misinformed twat.
Well, I see these "rules" as poor atempt to go around plot holes and characterisation issues.
I will go once again though it and explain … morein more details why I think this game is biggest Telltale misscarriage ever once after Im done with original Borderline games. Then I will go scene by scene of Tales and explain all flows, even more of them then I covered originally by this thread.
I think I will be able to do it before episode 2 is released but if not so I will cover both episodes and cover plot holes in both (if Telltale continues with poor writting in episode 2).
Players? So you're complaining that if YOU don't have a motivation to get the money then the characters in the story shouldn't? That is probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You don't even understand how this game's story works, twat.
Its seems very bad from point of player because Telltale promised us more and then let us believe that what we had to start with (10 million… more dollars) is enough motivation to play the game. By my opinion its not. Its failure to deliver proper motivation to players once vault key turned to be fake. Writters simply have poor writting skills. Im sorry but there is no other way to put it. I would understad if they become so lost at episode 5, when they have too much thread to follow but in starting episode I dont have any excuse for them and frankly, I dont see why anyone should have.
Welp, DrNorrington is entitled to his adamant opinion. It's misinformed, but self-justified. So what can we do.
There is plenty of love for this great first episode. If one guy didn't like it, then oh well. It's a shame but it's his loss.
I really dont get your term "misinformed".Misinformed about what exactly? I complained not because Im not awared about "rules" other players pointed out but because I never bought those "rules" why playing game. Read it again what I written, I said it several times already. I was to aware about bad writing and McGuffin of "billions of dollars" going to toilet and being replaced with McGuffin of 10 millions that we had all along to accept those "rules".
You may consider me "misinformed" but I cousider you gullable and easy fooled lacking basic ability to notice when someone is playing cheap trick upon you.
Maybe you are twat misinformed about cheap tricks and cheap entertaiment that's too much under other Telltale standards? But of course, taste is not to be disputed. Cheap people like cheap things.
There really isn't any plot holes or any mis characterizations in any fashion in how the characters act, you can actually have Fiona ask for… more more money in chapter 2 at least in my opinion. I'll definitely keep track of your scene by scene of the episode, as I think it'll crop up more evidence of making yourself look even more like a misinformed twat.
When I say "me" or "player" Im of course talking about myself identified with character in game. Is there any other possible way? Stop being so desperately silly. Or silly desperate. Not sure which one. Maybe both.
You are being twat for constantly reading things I write the way you can whine about it with no reason at all. Its just stuff in head because you purposly misreading me. But you cannot help yourself, obviously. I think you evey may enjoy it in some weirdo way.
Players? So you're complaining that if YOU don't have a motivation to get the money then the characters in the story shouldn't? That is probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You don't even understand how this game's story works, twat.
Best first episode ever of any TT games was The Tales from Monkey Island.
Maybe I have such bad impression of Borderland Tales because Im constantly compairing it to Monkey Island Tales and in every possible way, humor, characterisation, story Borderland loses by far. Its simply uncompairable.
The goal was too high for Tales from Borderalands. Its not a match.
I think this episode was one of the best first Episodes of any TT games so far.
I played a bit of Borderlands 1 and 2 and this really made me more interested in the whole Pandora lore regarding Hyperion, Dahl and Atlas
No, the industrial revolution did not happen everywhere on Earth. As I pointed out, there are still places in the world that don't even have electricity, let alone could be considered industrialized. Those parts of the world need to get basic amenities before they can even imagine getting the infrastructure necessary for paperless money to be a possibility (and in order for paper money to be eliminated completely, as you're suggesting, every place on Earth needs to be up to the standards of the digital age, and there are a lot of places on Earth that aren't even close to meeting those standards).
It's been over 200 years since the industrial revolution began, and there are still places on the Earth that aren't even close to catching up to the standards set over two centuries ago. In order for paper money to be eliminated completely, those parts of Earth would have to catch up to those standards, and then surpass them to enter the digital age. They just don't have the financial means to do so, and the countries that do have the money aren't going to spend the money to get those countries up to those standards since they don't have the money to spare because they have their own people they have to worry about.
Well, then they will do it where they can do it. Who says all countries should accept big change as electronic money at same time? Things ne… morever happened that way in history and it never will. Some will accept it some will not. But will later on. No reason to question the change just because you doesnt see it happen same way all over the world at same time. For instance, great industrial revolution never happend all at once in all countries. It happened in rich countries much sooner then in poor ones. But, regardless, it happened everywhere at some point of time, sooner or later.
If we are living in period before industrial revolution with your kind of thinking and arguments you could "prove" that no such thing as great industrial revolution would ever happen. And its just a great dream.
But, it did happen. All gread dreams happen sooner or later. As I've said before you will probably see it during your lifetime, if you live long enough.
Idustrial revolution happened regardless that there are still places in the world without electricity. Industrial revolution have its established timeline starting from year 1764 when steam engine was invented. Its always starting date that counts in history. Similarly, some country will start using electronic currency and it will be consider as starting point for whole world. Some countries will join. Some countries may never accept it. But those would be few. It will be more problem for them then for all others who have elecronic currency. Excange of paper currency for electronic. That would be task. Thay would still have to make some way to do it on borders even if they are underdeveloped country.
But, as I've said, who really cares if some country like North Korea decide to keep paper money and remain in stone age? Probably lots of people even expect them to do it. Its a way of things in those kind of countries.
No, the industrial revolution did not happen everywhere on Earth. As I pointed out, there are still places in the world that don't even hav… moree electricity, let alone could be considered industrialized. Those parts of the world need to get basic amenities before they can even imagine getting the infrastructure necessary for paperless money to be a possibility (and in order for paper money to be eliminated completely, as you're suggesting, every place on Earth needs to be up to the standards of the digital age, and there are a lot of places on Earth that aren't even close to meeting those standards).
It's been over 200 years since the industrial revolution began, and there are still places on the Earth that aren't even close to catching up to the standards set over two centuries ago. In order for paper money to be eliminated completely, those parts of Earth would have to catch up to those standards, and then surpass them to enter the digital… [view original content]
Best first episode ever of any TT games was The Tales from Monkey Island.
Maybe I have such bad impression of Borderland Tales because Im… more constantly compairing it to Monkey Island Tales and in every possible way, humor, characterisation, story Borderland loses by far. Its simply uncompairable.
The goal was too high for Tales from Borderalands. Its not a match.
@DrNorrington wrote:
But, as I've said, who really cares if some country like North Korea decide to keep paper money and remain in stone age? Probably lots of people even expect them to do it. Its a way of things in those kind of countries.
That's exactly my point. There will always still be countries who still use paper money, even if other countries adopt a paperless money system.
Pandora does not have first world amenities. It's got more in common with North Korea than first world nations on Earth, and actually is worse off than North Korea is now. It's a backwater planet, full of dangerous creatures and psychopaths that will kill you at a drop of a hat. It certainly makes sense that paper money would still be used to buy goods on a planet like that.
Idustrial revolution happened regardless that there are still places in the world without electricity. Industrial revolution have its establ… moreished timeline starting from year 1764 when steam engine was invented. Its always starting date that counts in history. Similarly, some country will start using electronic currency and it will be consider as starting point for whole world. Some countries will join. Some countries may never accept it. But those would be few. It will be more problem for them then for all others who have elecronic currency. Excange of paper currency for electronic. That would be task. Thay would still have to make some way to do it on borders even if they are underdeveloped country.
But, as I've said, who really cares if some country like North Korea decide to keep paper money and remain in stone age? Probably lots of people even expect them to do it. Its a way of things in those kind of countries.
The characters aren't exactly you, you just shape them into however they act and if they're going to be good, bad, or, etc however they aren't exactly an avatar, so that's still stupid.
Yes, I'm a twat who's calling you out on your misinformed, opinion and the fact that you just brush off solid answers to your questions, plus you're ignorant, I can help myself, considering I'm able to understand something that's pretty clear and simple unlike you, who keeps making ridiculous claims about how money works in this universe, and I have a reason, you have a stupid and silly argument to begin with.
Don't care if you dislike, but you have an atrocious argument.
When I say "me" or "player" Im of course talking about myself identified with character in game. Is there any other possible way? Stop being… more so desperately silly. Or silly desperate. Not sure which one. Maybe both.
You are being twat for constantly reading things I write the way you can whine about it with no reason at all. Its just stuff in head because you purposly misreading me. But you cannot help yourself, obviously. I think you evey may enjoy it in some weirdo way.
The characters aren't exactly you, you just shape them into however they act and if they're going to be good, bad, or, etc however they aren… more't exactly an avatar, so that's still stupid.
Yes, I'm a twat who's calling you out on your misinformed, opinion and the fact that you just brush off solid answers to your questions, plus you're ignorant, I can help myself, considering I'm able to understand something that's pretty clear and simple unlike you, who keeps making ridiculous claims about how money works in this universe, and I have a reason, you have a stupid and silly argument to begin with.
Don't care if you dislike, but you have an atrocious argument.
Both of you please stop with the insults. You can argue your points without resulting to calling each other names.
Remember, the first rule of the forum guidelines is respect.
Not sure if Pandora is comparable to North Korea or any country on the Earth but I get your point. Altough I still think it kind of wrong. The world of game is kind of hundreds (at the least) years aways from Earth science and society. So its hard to asume that in those hundreds years of difference, where they established teleportation, settling of far away planers and stuff they didnt bring electronic money with it but gone back to paper. But I guess its debatable.
Pandora still using paper money is actually just a half of my problems with game storyline. Other part is decision of writters to use that money as part of game plot, in the moment when original plot device (vault of key) failed as being fake. Which kind of stick out for me more. Actually, its just matter of my expectation of the game and Telltale as company. So far it was never reduced to being cheap mindless fun. But, then again, Borderlands serial being 1st person shooter is kind of implicating that cheap mindless entertaiment will be introduced even in aventure game adaptation by respected company as Telltale. I didnt expect that by maybe I should have. So, mistake on my part.
@DrNorrington wrote:
But, as I've said, who really cares if some country like North Korea decide to keep paper money and remain in stone … moreage? Probably lots of people even expect them to do it. Its a way of things in those kind of countries.
That's exactly my point. There will always still be countries who still use paper money, even if other countries adopt a paperless money system.
Pandora does not have first world amenities. It's got more in common with North Korea than first world nations on Earth, and actually is worse off than North Korea is now. It's a backwater planet, full of dangerous creatures and psychopaths that will kill you at a drop of a hat. It certainly makes sense that paper money would still be used to buy goods on a planet like that.
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Lol, you have lots of nerves buddy. Of course vault content is worth billions of dollars if vault key to open it is worth billion of dollars. Wording doesnt change the fact you are wrong all along. You are just not able to admit being wrong because you are that kind of person that is never ever wrong.
I dont have any other point except that I dislike the game. Its my opinion and my right to dislike something and your right to keep arguing about it. I cannot do nothing about it.
yea i was wrong but you weren't showing any proof at all so how can i admit i was wrong? you were being a smartass instead of showing proof
look in this series we have been in three vaults i can tell you from now what we have found is not worth that much we have only found these all of which were destroyed because you know they are trying to kill you
and also some guns but that is it you clearly can't admit you are wrong about what is actually inside a vault
You proved that you were wrong by youself. By picture you posted with that line mentioning billions dollars you totally forgot about. You mocked me for that line earlier forgetting it was something mentioned in game.
Of course that content of vault is worth billion of dollars. In the 1st game you kill Destroyer monster and Handsome Jack gets Eye of Destroyer in Borderalnds Pre Sequel. That is item worth billion of dollars. Becase it's superweapon material. Which also makes vault key worth billion of dollars, because you cannot get eye without key. Get it?
but you said vaughn said there must be billions of dollars worth IN the vault when clearly he was talking about the key being worth that much and again the actual content of the vault isn't worth that all all just because the key is the only reason the vault keys are expensive is because the only thing known about them is that there is alien tech in there (which would be the monsters) so of course it is expensive imagine what bandits and other types of people would want to do with alien tech but those people don't know the true contents of it anyway i am done you are doing nothing but restating the same shit i was wrong now i can admit it because the proof was there but you are taking it in the wrong way i'm done no point arguing with someone about vaults when they haven't even played the original games
Alright.
Mate, I havent played original games before started this thread. But, I said afterwards that I inted to play all three games before I play Tales once again. Im now finished Borderlands 1 and playing Borderlands Pre Sequel. So, I have pretty good and clear picture how valuable content of vault is for those two games. As I already explained in my previous postings.
You are stuborn man. Your failed to remeber about Vaughn mentioning billion of dollars worth but now you claiming your brain didnt functioned only because that statment mention key and not vault directly. You claim that I dont have knowledge of this universe at all but you seems that you dont have common sense and enough mind to deduce simple truth that key could be only worth because content of vault. Have you played Borderlands and Borderlands Pre Sequel? Those two games clearly established that your character in Borderlands was manipulated by Handsome Jack and his siren daughter Angel in order to get billions of worth Eye of The Destroyer item.
Or you have played those games and failed to deduce it, even if its so apparent? One of those two things. I think you next posting will help me to determine which one.
Never played Borderlands till the demo of this Telltale series, but I get where people here are coming from. I'm pretty cool with it, including how currency is handled in the universe. The demo was fun and interesting, I wouldn't let one little problem ruin the whole thing for me.
No need to drag this on, Mate. It ain't worth it.
Okay, didn't Jennifer and HandsomeJack already explain that to you on why paper money was used and why it was ten million dollars?
Seriously, it's like you just can't accept messing up, it was a shady deal and it was Hyperion money and using digital money would be risky, and besides this is not future earth, this is Pandora and Borderlands, a combination of a western and sci-fi, so don't expect any real hard science fiction.
Ten million dollars is NOT cheap, and August was the one who asked ten million dollars not Fiona, they were conning both parties out of their money. No, it is your rules, you keep whining and putting up these ridiculous claims that money shouldn't work this way in this universe and oh, why didn't these characters do what I wanted them to do in this universe, YOU ARE STILL BEING RIDICULOUS, These rules have sense to me, you're just being stupid about it.
Also according to the game, you need Vault Keys to open a Vault, and when the Vault Key turns out to be fake, real 10 million bucks doesn't seem so bad.
Well, I see these "rules" as poor atempt to go around plot holes and characterisation issues.
I will go once again though it and explain in more details why I think this game is biggest Telltale misscarriage ever once after Im done with original Borderline games. Then I will go scene by scene of Tales and explain all flows, even more of them then I covered originally by this thread.
I think I will be able to do it before episode 2 is released but if not so I will cover both episodes and cover plot holes in both (if Telltale continues with poor writting in episode 2).
Its seems very bad from point of player because Telltale promised us more and then let us believe that what we had to start with (10 million dollars) is enough motivation to play the game. By my opinion its not. Its failure to deliver proper motivation to players once vault key turned to be fake. Writters simply have poor writting skills. Im sorry but there is no other way to put it. I would understad if they become so lost at episode 5, when they have too much thread to follow but in starting episode I dont have any excuse for them and frankly, I dont see why anyone should have.
I have to say that, while I don't respect how you've handled yourself in this thread, I have to give you props for going out and buying/playing two games from the same franchise as the game you've spent over a week complaining about.
It will be interesting to hear if your opinion on Tales changes once you've fully immersed yourself in the universe.
Happy looting, Kiddo.
As I've said already I'm fan of TellTales, buying/playing all games even most obscure ones from company beginnings and worst ones like Jurassic Park. Every single game. So, why to stop now? I supported Telltales all these years during period of their rise, these new titles I see as company slowly but surely going down (TWD season 2, TTFB, GOT).
Hope my comments will help them to see their errors and get back to old road.
Yeah, I get (and appreciate) you supporting Telltale - but to then take it a step further by buying two Gearbox games if you seemingly didn't like the source material?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's wonderful that you're willing to give them a chance and trying to immerse yourself in the universe - but it just strikes me as odd that you'd spend your hard-earned (non-paper :P) cash on something that you clearly (not to mention publicly) disliked.
Im not from those unsatified customers once dissapointed never buys again. Im true fan of adventure genre. Bought/played probable more Telltale games that you ever will. Just because I bought/played them all.
Not many companies like telltale around in world of adventure games. Maybe only Daedalic Entertainment.
My really most anticipated game to come is Thimbleweed Park. But, its announced into 2016. What to do until then, by your opinion? Not buy/play adventure games just because major company that makes got to confident in their success so decided to hire bad writters? Well, I dont think so.
Fair enough - have fun exploring Pandora, Vault Hunter!
In the words of Clementine "I thought you were dead"
There really isn't any plot holes or any mis characterizations in any fashion in how the characters act, you can actually have Fiona ask for more money in chapter 2 at least in my opinion. I'll definitely keep track of your scene by scene of the episode, as I think it'll crop up more evidence of making yourself look even more like a misinformed twat.
That's real cute that you think that, Pumpkin - but everyone knows the hero never dies...
Players? So you're complaining that if YOU don't have a motivation to get the money then the characters in the story shouldn't? That is probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You don't even understand how this game's story works, twat.
never mind, I see it was already commented on.
He dislikes it for what seems like a very silly reason though. Well, that's his right, lol
I think this episode was one of the best first Episodes of any TT games so far.
I played a bit of Borderlands 1 and 2 and this really made me more interested in the whole Pandora lore regarding Hyperion, Dahl and Atlas
I really dont get your term "misinformed".Misinformed about what exactly? I complained not because Im not awared about "rules" other players pointed out but because I never bought those "rules" why playing game. Read it again what I written, I said it several times already. I was to aware about bad writing and McGuffin of "billions of dollars" going to toilet and being replaced with McGuffin of 10 millions that we had all along to accept those "rules".
You may consider me "misinformed" but I cousider you gullable and easy fooled lacking basic ability to notice when someone is playing cheap trick upon you.
Maybe you are twat misinformed about cheap tricks and cheap entertaiment that's too much under other Telltale standards? But of course, taste is not to be disputed. Cheap people like cheap things.
When I say "me" or "player" Im of course talking about myself identified with character in game. Is there any other possible way? Stop being so desperately silly. Or silly desperate. Not sure which one. Maybe both.
You are being twat for constantly reading things I write the way you can whine about it with no reason at all. Its just stuff in head because you purposly misreading me. But you cannot help yourself, obviously. I think you evey may enjoy it in some weirdo way.
Best first episode ever of any TT games was The Tales from Monkey Island.
Maybe I have such bad impression of Borderland Tales because Im constantly compairing it to Monkey Island Tales and in every possible way, humor, characterisation, story Borderland loses by far. Its simply uncompairable.
The goal was too high for Tales from Borderalands. Its not a match.
No, the industrial revolution did not happen everywhere on Earth. As I pointed out, there are still places in the world that don't even have electricity, let alone could be considered industrialized. Those parts of the world need to get basic amenities before they can even imagine getting the infrastructure necessary for paperless money to be a possibility (and in order for paper money to be eliminated completely, as you're suggesting, every place on Earth needs to be up to the standards of the digital age, and there are a lot of places on Earth that aren't even close to meeting those standards).
It's been over 200 years since the industrial revolution began, and there are still places on the Earth that aren't even close to catching up to the standards set over two centuries ago. In order for paper money to be eliminated completely, those parts of Earth would have to catch up to those standards, and then surpass them to enter the digital age. They just don't have the financial means to do so, and the countries that do have the money aren't going to spend the money to get those countries up to those standards since they don't have the money to spare because they have their own people they have to worry about.
Idustrial revolution happened regardless that there are still places in the world without electricity. Industrial revolution have its established timeline starting from year 1764 when steam engine was invented. Its always starting date that counts in history. Similarly, some country will start using electronic currency and it will be consider as starting point for whole world. Some countries will join. Some countries may never accept it. But those would be few. It will be more problem for them then for all others who have elecronic currency. Excange of paper currency for electronic. That would be task. Thay would still have to make some way to do it on borders even if they are underdeveloped country.
But, as I've said, who really cares if some country like North Korea decide to keep paper money and remain in stone age? Probably lots of people even expect them to do it. Its a way of things in those kind of countries.
Well we all have our oppinions and tastes and dislikes etc. And Yeah Monkey Island was Epic
That's exactly my point. There will always still be countries who still use paper money, even if other countries adopt a paperless money system.
Pandora does not have first world amenities. It's got more in common with North Korea than first world nations on Earth, and actually is worse off than North Korea is now. It's a backwater planet, full of dangerous creatures and psychopaths that will kill you at a drop of a hat. It certainly makes sense that paper money would still be used to buy goods on a planet like that.
The characters aren't exactly you, you just shape them into however they act and if they're going to be good, bad, or, etc however they aren't exactly an avatar, so that's still stupid.
Yes, I'm a twat who's calling you out on your misinformed, opinion and the fact that you just brush off solid answers to your questions, plus you're ignorant, I can help myself, considering I'm able to understand something that's pretty clear and simple unlike you, who keeps making ridiculous claims about how money works in this universe, and I have a reason, you have a stupid and silly argument to begin with.
Don't care if you dislike, but you have an atrocious argument.
Both of you please stop with the insults. You can argue your points without resulting to calling each other names.
Remember, the first rule of the forum guidelines is respect.
Yeah, I'm through with this. It's gone too far.
I initially wanted a Rhys "thumbs down" gif, but couldn't find one.
Not sure if Pandora is comparable to North Korea or any country on the Earth but I get your point. Altough I still think it kind of wrong. The world of game is kind of hundreds (at the least) years aways from Earth science and society. So its hard to asume that in those hundreds years of difference, where they established teleportation, settling of far away planers and stuff they didnt bring electronic money with it but gone back to paper. But I guess its debatable.
Pandora still using paper money is actually just a half of my problems with game storyline. Other part is decision of writters to use that money as part of game plot, in the moment when original plot device (vault of key) failed as being fake. Which kind of stick out for me more. Actually, its just matter of my expectation of the game and Telltale as company. So far it was never reduced to being cheap mindless fun. But, then again, Borderlands serial being 1st person shooter is kind of implicating that cheap mindless entertaiment will be introduced even in aventure game adaptation by respected company as Telltale. I didnt expect that by maybe I should have. So, mistake on my part.