I'm sure plenty of people (Most people) would vouch for your side of the argument, if they bothered to read the entire wall of text (Which I don't blame them if they don't want to.)
It's quite clear that you were upset from the minute you replied to me
Yes. As I've admitted. Your point?
It's common knowledge that when someone is pissed off
Sigh. This won't be a lecture, will it?
or doesn't know how to respond in a civil manner that they start to claim they're "loling" all over the place in a desperate and sad attempt to make themselves look superior.
I have no idea why you think I'm trying to be superior when your comment makes me laugh. It's not a sad or desperate attempt at anything. I literally laughed at that because it made no sense. And don't go on about "you don't understand my posts, be civil, blah blah." because I do. And it's laughable.
Either that, or they're a child and don't possess the skills to conduct a proper discussion.
I'm pretty sure I choose when I want to be civil or not. Hell, it's Christmas, being civil can wait until a few days since I'm in quite the mood.
Look, we're clearly not only on different pages, but completely different books
So is the book your reading "Women's instincts are finding a man that's strong, capable, tough, etc. 101"?
I'm not interested in fighting with you over something that isn't even in my post.:/
No, I think I see what the problem is. You don't realize what you type. Some of the stuff you said to me whilst explaining was pretty sexist. Like basing women's instincts on animal instincts. Saying that their instincts are based on one type of man. I've even said that it depends on the environment you grow up in, and as it came to be just before, your sexuality.
It's quite clear that you were upset from the minute you replied to me, even more so now. It's common knowledge that when someone is pissed … moreoff, or doesn't know how to respond in a civil manner that they start to claim they're "loling" all over the place in a desperate and sad attempt to make themselves look superior. Either that, or they're a child and don't possess the skills to conduct a proper discussion. Look, we're clearly not only on different pages, but completely different books. I'm not interested in fighting with you over something that isn't even in my post.:/
I feel this conversation has run its course now.
Can both of you please end it as i don't want to see it turn into a argument or see any … moremore insults as insulting someones "comprehension skills" is mildly breaching the first rule in the Forum Guidelines
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It's almost as if we've shown in the last 3000 years that we're much more than animals
To suggest that our attraction foundation is stil… morel based on things that we have shown are not absolute is ridiculous.
Society affects so much: hairy bodies 'should' be attractive, but many women, if not most, from polls, disapprove of them and want their partners to be clean shaven.
The 'ideal' of female beauty also looks far different now that it did 200 years ago. Human sexual attraction changes often, and thus there's not one ideal or correct way of being attracted to something.
Alright, I was a bit overly entertained by some of the things you said, so I said a few things that were rude, and over used capslock a bit and for that I apologize. Anyway, the point is, humans are animals.
"Sure. If that's what you believe in, go ahead. I believe in God, and don't believe that we came from animals. Sure, we have similarities, but need I remind you that we live on the same planet as them. We don't live in trees, we don't shit on the ground, we speak words."
Alright, first of all, humans used to shit on the ground, and live in trees, and speaking words is nothing special, as many birds are able to. Not only that, but many people, including Korowai tribe in the amazon (I believe they are based in the Amazon Rain Forest, but don't quote me on it.) still do live in trees. Plus, there are many MANY people in all parts of the world that are less fortunate than me, and (I'm assuming) you, who are forced to shit on the ground, because they do not have plumbing, or toilets.
"Are you completely for fucking real? Are you?! No one even criticized you. You being ignorant and saying that to obviously get on the nerves of both of us is foolish. It's unneeded. I don't see any purpose it gives you in life other than coming off rude. Don't victimize yourself when you aren't even in this.
Smh."
Yes, I am, indeed, "completely for fucking real." You said under one of my popcorn comments "Have fun trying to achieve whatever purpose in your life that this gives.", which led me to believe you were criticizing my motive behind making the comment, evidently I was wrong.
Anyway, this entire argument sprung up from a comment Tinni made about human female instincts, which was taken the wrong way. Now, a moderator has asked everyone to stop this discussion, which has escalated into an argument, and now many of us are going to walk away with hurt feelings. So, now that religion has been brought into this (Which is I guarantee you is going to cause more stress and hurt feelings) I think we should stop this debate/argument/shitstorm altogether.
My opinion is. Tinni is correct about women being NATURALLY attracted to males who are more dominant, and stronger than others, because of f… moreorces BEYOND their conscious control, it's natural instinct. This argument was taken on a VERY personal level though, she wasn't saying "All women are attracted to Bigby." She was saying, that it's instinct for FEMALE animals to be attracted to STRONG, DOMINANT male animals.
Okay, but I disagreed with it. She went on to say how I lacked comprehension skills because I told her not to speak for all women. By saying "A woman's natural instinct is blah blah blah" is speaking for all women. If you don't think that's speaking for all women, then there's something wrong about that.
Now, my OTHER opinion
Damn son, how many you got?
is the entire argument that sprouted from hers, is completely pointless, and stupid, and that is the reason for my sly "Noms on popcorn comments." Infinite … [view original content]
Alright, I was a bit overly entertained by some of the things you said, so I said a few things that were rude, and over used capslock a bit … moreand for that I apologize. Anyway, the point is, humans are animals.
"Sure. If that's what you believe in, go ahead. I believe in God, and don't believe that we came from animals. Sure, we have similarities, but need I remind you that we live on the same planet as them. We don't live in trees, we don't shit on the ground, we speak words."
Alright, first of all, humans used to shit on the ground, and live in trees, and speaking words is nothing special, as many birds are able to. Not only that, but many people, including Korowai tribe in the amazon (I believe they are based in the Amazon Rain Forest, but don't quote me on it.) still do live in trees. Plus, there are many MANY people in all parts of the world that are less fortunate than me, and (I'm assuming) you, who are forced to shit on the ground,… [view original content]
The moment you admit you are angry or upset in a debate is the moment you lose credibility, because you aren't thinking clearly. I myself have experienced this when I get heated, and then I look back and realize how immature I was acting, and that I was being selective in how I chose to interpret my opponents stance. I'm only trying to point that out to you, because of how transparent you are being, fumbling to regain your composure and maturity status when you've already thrown it away like a child.
I said humans share similar instincts with animals, meaning both males and females. The thread was asking for the female perspective so I decided to exclude the male perspective from my post. And if you bothered to read my comments without being emotionally compromised you would know that I said our core instincts are dulled due to the environment we live in, and that unlike animals we have the power to defy said instincts and decide what kind of man we want because of personal preference. I stated several times if we were to be stripped down to nothing but natural instincts that these are the specific traits that we would look for in a man. And furthermore, though we are not controlled completely by instinct, it still does play a part in our mating patterns on a subconscious level. That doesn't change the fact that we are capable of free will, conscious thought, and usually consider personal preference more important. I honestly can't believe you're still confused about this, I've restated my post in a myriad of different ways in hopes of helping you understand something that shouldn't even be difficult to understand in the first place. The point is that humans and animals are fundamentally similar, especially on an instinctual level. It has everything to do with science, and nothing to do with sexism.
..So basically what you're telling me is that you're offended by factual information. Ok then.
It's quite clear that you were upset from the minute you replied to me
Yes. As I've admitted. Your point?
It's common knowledg… moree that when someone is pissed off
Sigh. This won't be a lecture, will it?
or doesn't know how to respond in a civil manner that they start to claim they're "loling" all over the place in a desperate and sad attempt to make themselves look superior.
I have no idea why you think I'm trying to be superior when your comment makes me laugh. It's not a sad or desperate attempt at anything. I literally laughed at that because it made no sense. And don't go on about "you don't understand my posts, be civil, blah blah." because I do. And it's laughable.
Either that, or they're a child and don't possess the skills to conduct a proper discussion.
I'm pretty sure I choose when I want to be civil or not. Hell, it's Christmas, being civil can wait until a few days since I'm in quite … [view original content]
I've already told you that is not what I said. You are choosing to ignore that.
It's true. When you are having a conversation with a person, and they are failing to understand the main point, it is very difficult to continue the conversation. I'm saying you aren't understanding, because my post is not an opinion, it is a fact. You can't disagree with fact. There is no need to get so angry.
You have though. It was quite a while ago, but I have a good memory, and I remember this exact same thing happening in an old thread. It was the only other conversation we've had, and it was equally unpleasant. It had to do with my dislike for Luke, you got upset and said I was being hypocritical, when there was no sign of hypocrisy in my post. This was pointed out to you, and you proceeded to get even more upset.
I only insinuate that your comprehension skills need work because you failed to understand the point of my post.
You basically said … morethat a woman's natural instinct is to look for a man capable enough to support them, strong, etc. I know exactly what you're saying, I just disagree with it.
It's difficult to hold a conversation with a person who isn't even processing information properly
What in the ever living fuck is wrong with you? Me disagreeing to what you say in your posts is not me being unable to understand it. Here's a huge plot twist: I'm not a complete dumbass, so take that shit somewhere else.
I also recall this exact same thing happening months ago, you completely misinterpreted a post of mine, and then got upset when it was pointed out to you.
I have never spoken to you at all in a context like this. I'm pretty sure I've spoken briefly to you, and none of that caused any negativity. You've got the wrong person.
I've already told you that is not what I said. You are choosing to ignore that.
It's true. When you are having a conversation with a pers… moreon, and they are failing to understand the main point, it is very difficult to continue the conversation. I'm saying you aren't understanding, because my post is not an opinion, it is a fact. You can't disagree with fact. There is no need to get so angry.
You have though. It was quite a while ago, but I have a good memory, and I remember this exact same thing happening in an old thread. It was the only other conversation we've had, and it was equally unpleasant. It had to do with my dislike for Luke, you got upset and said I was being hypocritical, when there was no sign of hypocrisy in my post. This was pointed out to you, and you proceeded to get even more upset.
Well I could argue with you, but at the end of the day who am I to try to change your views. Personally I have no religion but I respects your beliefs. Merry Christmas
The fact that we have similarities to animals does not mean we are animals. If I have brown hair like someone else, does that make me them?
… more
To me, we are not animals. It's not a fact that outstands all, I think that it might have something to do with your religion.
I'll stop now, I've made my point. I do apologize for replying to your last comment, I justified it by feeling the need to clarify certain parts to you, but I shouldn't have prolonged it, for you clearly have no desire to understand or learn.
Well, if you had bothered to continue reading, you would have gotten to
"Anyway, this entire argument sprung up from a comment Tinni made about human female instincts, which was taken the wrong way. Now, a moderator has asked everyone to stop this discussion, which has escalated into an argument, and now many of us are going to walk away with hurt feelings. So, now that religion has been brought into this (Which is I guarantee you is going to cause more stress and hurt feelings) I think we should stop this debate/argument/shitstorm altogether."
The fact that we have similarities to animals does not mean we are animals. If I have brown hair like someone else, does that make me them?
… more
To me, we are not animals. It's not a fact that outstands all, I think that it might have something to do with your religion.
I kinda have a feeling he's not as muscular as everyone thinks because of the whole malnourishment and starvation pretty much everyone in TWD has going on but then again I haven't read the comics so mayebe everyone is incredibly fit in that universe.
For the record, I am in fact religious, but that doesn't affect my ability to acknowledge fact. Humans are basically very intelligent and sentient animals with souls.
Case in point. You're very much emotionally invested, and can't stand it when someone has a different opinion than you. I'm beginning to see where your reputation for being irrational comes from.
Also, smoking is kind of a turn off for me so that doesn't really help in Bigby's case, he does have a nice body though... Wish we could have seen Luke's...
She should be more supporting to Psycho Dog man's dreams.
Instead of being a dreamsmasher, believe in her husband's dream for a world without Dog Street Siege.
I kinda have a feeling he's not as muscular as everyone thinks because of the whole malnourishment and starvation pretty much everyone in TWD has going on but then again I haven't read the comics so mayebe everyone is incredibly fit in that universe.
Well I could argue with you, but at the end of the day who am I to try to change your views. Personally I have no religion but I respects your beliefs. Merry Christmas
Well, if you had bothered to continue reading, you would have gotten to
"Anyway, this entire argument sprung up from a comment Tinni made… more about human female instincts, which was taken the wrong way. Now, a moderator has asked everyone to stop this discussion, which has escalated into an argument, and now many of us are going to walk away with hurt feelings. So, now that religion has been brought into this (Which is I guarantee you is going to cause more stress and hurt feelings) I think we should stop this debate/argument/shitstorm altogether."
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LOL
Yes. As I've admitted. Your point?
Sigh. This won't be a lecture, will it?
I have no idea why you think I'm trying to be superior when your comment makes me laugh. It's not a sad or desperate attempt at anything. I literally laughed at that because it made no sense. And don't go on about "you don't understand my posts, be civil, blah blah." because I do. And it's laughable.
I'm pretty sure I choose when I want to be civil or not. Hell, it's Christmas, being civil can wait until a few days since I'm in quite the mood.
So is the book your reading "Women's instincts are finding a man that's strong, capable, tough, etc. 101"?
No, I think I see what the problem is. You don't realize what you type. Some of the stuff you said to me whilst explaining was pretty sexist. Like basing women's instincts on animal instincts. Saying that their instincts are based on one type of man. I've even said that it depends on the environment you grow up in, and as it came to be just before, your sexuality.
Shit. Literally just saw this now after I posted my replies. Sorry for that, Ozzy.
Bless your soul, Flog.
Go big or go home.
In my case, be sarcastic.
Alright, I was a bit overly entertained by some of the things you said, so I said a few things that were rude, and over used capslock a bit and for that I apologize. Anyway, the point is, humans are animals.
"Sure. If that's what you believe in, go ahead. I believe in God, and don't believe that we came from animals. Sure, we have similarities, but need I remind you that we live on the same planet as them. We don't live in trees, we don't shit on the ground, we speak words."
Alright, first of all, humans used to shit on the ground, and live in trees, and speaking words is nothing special, as many birds are able to. Not only that, but many people, including Korowai tribe in the amazon (I believe they are based in the Amazon Rain Forest, but don't quote me on it.) still do live in trees. Plus, there are many MANY people in all parts of the world that are less fortunate than me, and (I'm assuming) you, who are forced to shit on the ground, because they do not have plumbing, or toilets.
"Are you completely for fucking real? Are you?! No one even criticized you. You being ignorant and saying that to obviously get on the nerves of both of us is foolish. It's unneeded. I don't see any purpose it gives you in life other than coming off rude. Don't victimize yourself when you aren't even in this.
Smh."
Yes, I am, indeed, "completely for fucking real." You said under one of my popcorn comments "Have fun trying to achieve whatever purpose in your life that this gives.", which led me to believe you were criticizing my motive behind making the comment, evidently I was wrong.
Anyway, this entire argument sprung up from a comment Tinni made about human female instincts, which was taken the wrong way. Now, a moderator has asked everyone to stop this discussion, which has escalated into an argument, and now many of us are going to walk away with hurt feelings. So, now that religion has been brought into this (Which is I guarantee you is going to cause more stress and hurt feelings) I think we should stop this debate/argument/shitstorm altogether.
I stopped reading there.
The moment you admit you are angry or upset in a debate is the moment you lose credibility, because you aren't thinking clearly. I myself have experienced this when I get heated, and then I look back and realize how immature I was acting, and that I was being selective in how I chose to interpret my opponents stance. I'm only trying to point that out to you, because of how transparent you are being, fumbling to regain your composure and maturity status when you've already thrown it away like a child.
I said humans share similar instincts with animals, meaning both males and females. The thread was asking for the female perspective so I decided to exclude the male perspective from my post. And if you bothered to read my comments without being emotionally compromised you would know that I said our core instincts are dulled due to the environment we live in, and that unlike animals we have the power to defy said instincts and decide what kind of man we want because of personal preference. I stated several times if we were to be stripped down to nothing but natural instincts that these are the specific traits that we would look for in a man. And furthermore, though we are not controlled completely by instinct, it still does play a part in our mating patterns on a subconscious level. That doesn't change the fact that we are capable of free will, conscious thought, and usually consider personal preference more important. I honestly can't believe you're still confused about this, I've restated my post in a myriad of different ways in hopes of helping you understand something that shouldn't even be difficult to understand in the first place. The point is that humans and animals are fundamentally similar, especially on an instinctual level. It has everything to do with science, and nothing to do with sexism.
..So basically what you're telling me is that you're offended by factual information. Ok then.
no she loves him because he makes her laugh.
Nothing other than that really matters.
I've already told you that is not what I said. You are choosing to ignore that.
It's true. When you are having a conversation with a person, and they are failing to understand the main point, it is very difficult to continue the conversation. I'm saying you aren't understanding, because my post is not an opinion, it is a fact. You can't disagree with fact. There is no need to get so angry.
You have though. It was quite a while ago, but I have a good memory, and I remember this exact same thing happening in an old thread. It was the only other conversation we've had, and it was equally unpleasant. It had to do with my dislike for Luke, you got upset and said I was being hypocritical, when there was no sign of hypocrisy in my post. This was pointed out to you, and you proceeded to get even more upset.
That's all that matters, my friends
Sorry for budging in here but humans are animals...it's just a fact even if you are religious.
The fact that we have similarities to animals does not mean we are animals. If I have brown hair like someone else, does that make me them?
To me, we are not animals. It's not a fact that outstands all, I think that it might have something to do with your religion.
Ozzy said stop. Why are you still going? There's nothing to win.
I'm talking about her facial expression, George. Of course she loves him because of the laughter, but you can tell she's embarrassed.
Well I could argue with you, but at the end of the day who am I to try to change your views. Personally I have no religion but I respects your beliefs. Merry Christmas
I'll stop now, I've made my point. I do apologize for replying to your last comment, I justified it by feeling the need to clarify certain parts to you, but I shouldn't have prolonged it, for you clearly have no desire to understand or learn.
THE BIG BAD WOLF! are you kidding me. bigby is what a woman need xD
Well, if you had bothered to continue reading, you would have gotten to
"Anyway, this entire argument sprung up from a comment Tinni made about human female instincts, which was taken the wrong way. Now, a moderator has asked everyone to stop this discussion, which has escalated into an argument, and now many of us are going to walk away with hurt feelings. So, now that religion has been brought into this (Which is I guarantee you is going to cause more stress and hurt feelings) I think we should stop this debate/argument/shitstorm altogether."
Me on this thread.
I kinda have a feeling he's not as muscular as everyone thinks because of the whole malnourishment and starvation pretty much everyone in TWD has going on but then again I haven't read the comics so mayebe everyone is incredibly fit in that universe.
For the record, I am in fact religious, but that doesn't affect my ability to acknowledge fact. Humans are basically very intelligent and sentient animals with souls.
Why is it that conservatives always sound like robots when it comes to gender? What you like isn't 'hard-wired' by god or whatever.
Otherwise I'd be "hardwired" to lust after some submissive doormat.
Luke because he's Luke xD
Also, smoking is kind of a turn off for me so that doesn't really help in Bigby's case, he does have a nice body though... Wish we could have seen Luke's...
She should be more supporting to Psycho Dog man's dreams.
Instead of being a dreamsmasher, believe in her husband's dream for a world without Dog Street Siege.
Sure.
I dunno, man. Don't crush my dreams, though.
Shut up, GOUST.
You have moobs. >:(
Thank you.
Yet you continue to reply.
.
That's my fetish.
You fetish over being paralyzed?
I can buy you a wheelchair?
Bigby
But crushing innocent girls dreams is my passtime, then again your dreams about Luke are probably not too innocent
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I'm straight.
But I do ship them. In a way. Sort of. I don't know how.
Luke and AJ? Hell of a threesome, Dawn xD