And when did it become all about friends and family? If someone I cared about made that choice, then I'd respect that choice because I have no right to deny them happiness. It's their choice, and if I think it's a bad idea, I'll say so, but it's their life, not mine.
Actually they hurt a lot of their friends and families.
Then you ask...
And when did it become all about friends and family?
...You people make no sense. I still can't believe you all would allow someone to ruin their lives with drugs because it makes them happy...How happy will they be when they get an addiction and lose all their money to drugs? How happy will they be when they relapse from it and spiral into a uncontrollable depression and then commit suicide? How happy will they be when they find out they have cancer?
And when did it become all about friends and family? If someone I cared about made that choice, then I'd respect that choice because I have … moreno right to deny them happiness. It's their choice, and if I think it's a bad idea, I'll say so, but it's their life, not mine.
No,you don't understand. You think it's okay for people's choices to be taken away if it's "for their own good". If a person wants to make that choice with their life, and knows the consequences of it, then let them. I won't force them, because I don't think it's right to force my idea of what's good for a person at the cost of the person's happiness.
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They aren't hurting anyone else by doing so.
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Actually they hurt a lot of their friends and fami… morelies.
Then you ask...
And when did it become all about friends and family?
...You people make no sense. I still can't believe you all would allow someone to ruin their lives with drugs because it makes them happy...How happy will they be when they get an addiction and lose all their money to drugs? How happy will they be when they relapse from it and spiral into a uncontrollable depression and then commit suicide? How happy will they be when they find out they have cancer?
You all don't understand.
Fine you know what let people die, it's just suicide. I understand completely yet we live in a world where it's apparently okay to use drugs which kill you and people support you for it.
You know what the difference between slitting your wrists and dying from a drug overdose is?
No,you don't understand. You think it's okay for people's choices to be taken away if it's "for their own good". If a person wants to make t… morehat choice with their life, and knows the consequences of it, then let them. I won't force them, because I don't think it's right to force my idea of what's good for a person at the cost of the person's happiness.
Fine you know what let people die, it's just suicide. I understand completely yet we live in a world where it's apparently okay to use drugs… more which kill you and people support you for it.
You know what the difference between slitting your wrists and dying from a drug overdose is?
One costs money.
And I have a lot of respect for you too and no I wouldn't...If I saw my sister shooting up drugs I would stop her and get her serious medical attention to save he life and future.
Fuck drugs, they do nothing but ruin lives and yet you all say we should let people ruin their lives because it's their choice...Not even...They're addicted.
And I have a lot of respect for you too and no I wouldn't...If I saw my sister shooting up drugs I would stop her and get her serious medica… morel attention to save he life and future.
Fuck drugs, they do nothing but ruin lives and yet you all say we should let people ruin their lives because it's their choice...Not even...They're addicted.
If they don't believe they are wasting their life then how can you say they have? All I'm looking for in life is utter happiness, if I thought drugs would bring me this then who are you to tell me I've wasted it by doing so? That's cruel and closed minded. If someone feels that drugs makes their life better and more worthwhile then that's their choice, even if I don't feel the same way.
You would let someone do drugs and die from it when you've been taught your entire life that drugs are bad.
I've also been told my entire life that Christianity is the only way to live, and that homosexuals are immoral and disgusting and unquestionably wrong. I've been told that black skinned people are beneath their white skinned counterparts. I've been told that oriental races are warmongers. Should I follow these ideals because I have been told them?
(BTW I've noticed other conversations springing up from ours, I hope ours won't be affected by the others )
....I CAN'T. They are wasting their lives and destroying themselves.
You would let someone do drugs and die from it when you've been taug… moreht your entire life that drugs are bad.
By the way, I never meant to imply you did drugs yourself, sorry if you felt offense from this.
Well it's the fact that drugs won't bring you happiness but only sorrow later on and deep sorrow at that. I want to look out for my friends and family and that means being honest with them to keep them safe. It's not cruel or close minded, it's close minded to think drugs will solve all your problems.
I don't even know what to make of that second paragraph...Drugs kill people and to go against it is a GOOD MORAL and a GOOD thing to know. The things you named are meant to oppress other people and discriminate against them, knowing drugs are bad and to not do them and help people that are doing them to recover is good and only solves their problems.
(BTW I've noticed other conversations springing up from ours, I hope ours won't be affected by the others )
I'm actually getting frustrated but we'll keep going, arguments are fun to me. I just want you to know if I say anything too rude just tell me and i'll apologize since I can get a little mouthy when annoyed.
If they don't believe they are wasting their life then how can you say they have? All I'm looking for in life is utter happiness, if I thoug… moreht drugs would bring me this then who are you to tell me I've wasted it by doing so? That's cruel and closed minded. If someone feels that drugs makes their life better and more worthwhile then that's their choice, even if I don't feel the same way.
You would let someone do drugs and die from it when you've been taught your entire life that drugs are bad.
I've also been told my entire life that Christianity is the only way to live, and that homosexuals are immoral and disgusting and unquestionably wrong. I've been told that black skinned people are beneath their white skinned counterparts. I've been told that oriental races are warmongers. Should I follow these ideals because I have been told them?
(BTW I've noticed other conversations springing up from ours, I hope ours won't be affected by the others )
Nobody's saying drugs will solve someone's problems, but I think life should only be experienced if and how a person wants to experience it. I will never use the "for your own good" argument, because I refuse to tell another person how they should live their lives.
Well it's the fact that drugs won't bring you happiness but only sorrow later on and deep sorrow at that. I want to look out for my friends … moreand family and that means being honest with them to keep them safe. It's not cruel or close minded, it's close minded to think drugs will solve all your problems.
I don't even know what to make of that second paragraph...Drugs kill people and to go against it is a GOOD MORAL and a GOOD thing to know. The things you named are meant to oppress other people and discriminate against them, knowing drugs are bad and to not do them and help people that are doing them to recover is good and only solves their problems.
(BTW I've noticed other conversations springing up from ours, I hope ours won't be affected by the others )
I'm actually getting frustrated but we'll keep going, arguments are fun to me. I just want you to know if I say anything too rude just tell me and i'll apologize since I can get a little mouthy when annoyed.
I think your missing his point. If a person wants to wreck there own lives for drugs, then it's their choice. They aren't hurting anyone else by doing so. People should be able to do what makes them happy as long as it doesn't hurt others.
No, people shouldn't be allowed to kill themselves just being it gives them a buzz. I can tell people how to live their lives if it potentially saves their life or makes it better.
Nobody's saying drugs will solve someone's problems, but I think life should only be experienced if and how a person wants to experience it.… more I will never use the "for your own good" argument, because I refuse to tell another person how they should live their lives.
No, people shouldn't be allowed to kill themselves just being it gives them a buzz. I can tell people how to live their lives if it potentially saves their life or makes it better.
You don't know it will bring them sadness. I know plenty of people who have used drugs just because they enjoyed it. As I said before I'm talking about people who want to use drugs. If someone is addicted and does not want to use drugs anymore then they should be helped to overcome that addiction, but that isn't who I am referring to. What's closed minded is to think that drugs will not solve a single persons problems.
The second paragraph was in response to your statement "when you've been taught your entire life that drugs are bad," and I was simply saying that you being taught that your entire life is irrelevant.
Well it's the fact that drugs won't bring you happiness but only sorrow later on and deep sorrow at that. I want to look out for my friends … moreand family and that means being honest with them to keep them safe. It's not cruel or close minded, it's close minded to think drugs will solve all your problems.
I don't even know what to make of that second paragraph...Drugs kill people and to go against it is a GOOD MORAL and a GOOD thing to know. The things you named are meant to oppress other people and discriminate against them, knowing drugs are bad and to not do them and help people that are doing them to recover is good and only solves their problems.
(BTW I've noticed other conversations springing up from ours, I hope ours won't be affected by the others )
I'm actually getting frustrated but we'll keep going, arguments are fun to me. I just want you to know if I say anything too rude just tell me and i'll apologize since I can get a little mouthy when annoyed.
You don't know it will bring them sadness. I know plenty of people who have used drugs just because they enjoyed it. As I said before I'm ta… morelking about people who want to use drugs. If someone is addicted and does not want to use drugs anymore then they should be helped to overcome that addiction, but that isn't who I am referring to. What's closed minded is to think that drugs will not solve a single persons problems.
The second paragraph was in response to your statement "when you've been taught your entire life that drugs are bad," and I was simply saying that you being taught that your entire life is irrelevant.
You don't know it will bring them sadness. I know plenty of people who have used drugs just because they enjoyed it. As I said before I'm ta… morelking about people who want to use drugs. If someone is addicted and does not want to use drugs anymore then they should be helped to overcome that addiction, but that isn't who I am referring to. What's closed minded is to think that drugs will not solve a single persons problems.
The second paragraph was in response to your statement "when you've been taught your entire life that drugs are bad," and I was simply saying that you being taught that your entire life is irrelevant.
I just think it was just a bad year for gaming tbh I recently played ps1 classics on my vita crash, spryro etc and had great fun so saying your just getting older is a lie and with all the micro-transaction 80 euro games full of bugs with short campaigns unless it's a masterpiece most games are not worth the money nowadays tbh TLOU is the best game I ever played tho
In my experience, multiplayer games aren't really worth the annoyance. Co-Op can be surprisingly fun though. I've been playing MASS effect 3 multiplayer for a couple weeks now, with nary a troll or squeaker.
No it doesn't. What you're taught is just a bunch on nonsense, it's how you decipher that nonsense that matters. All those things I said earlier do not matter, it's the fact that I recognized they were wrong that does.
Any drug. Weed, coke, heroin, acid, lsd, shrooms.
No it doesn't. What you're taught is just a bunch on nonsense, it's how you decipher th… moreat nonsense that matters. All those things I said earlier do not matter, it's the fact that I recognized they were wrong that does.
I have come to find that they don't hurt other people and I have no reason to tell someone to stop doing them. Warning someone of the possible outcomes is understandable, but telling someone they are not allowed to do something because of the sole reason that I don't like it is not understandable.
Getting in your car is extremely dangerous.
I have come to find that they don't hurt other people and I have no reason to tell someone to… more stop doing them. Warning someone of the possible outcomes is understandable, but telling someone they are not allowed to do something because of the sole reason that I don't like it is not understandable.
...You know what I was about to say "Yeah, let's stop not because I don't want to but because this is XP's thread and he asked us to stop." but you know what I want to stop, you don't even understand what i'm trying to say and you know what, fuck it.
Getting in your car is extremely dangerous.
I have come to find that they don't hurt other people and I have no reason to tell someone to… more stop doing them. Warning someone of the possible outcomes is understandable, but telling someone they are not allowed to do something because of the sole reason that I don't like it is not understandable.
Getting in your car is extremely dangerous.
Don't start this shit again, it's different.
...You know what I was about to say "Yea… moreh, let's stop not because I don't want to but because this is XP's thread and he asked us to stop." but you know what I want to stop, you don't even understand what i'm trying to say and you know what, fuck it.
Don't start this shit again, it's different.
It's not different. They are both unnecessary things that, to certain people, make thei… morer life better.
I completely understand what you're saying, I just feel if a man should have any sort of true freedom it should be over himself.
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I thought of posting that along with it! Awesome to see another Frank Fan!
And when did it become all about friends and family? If someone I cared about made that choice, then I'd respect that choice because I have no right to deny them happiness. It's their choice, and if I think it's a bad idea, I'll say so, but it's their life, not mine.
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Oh which I responded
Then you ask...
...You people make no sense. I still can't believe you all would allow someone to ruin their lives with drugs because it makes them happy...How happy will they be when they get an addiction and lose all their money to drugs? How happy will they be when they relapse from it and spiral into a uncontrollable depression and then commit suicide? How happy will they be when they find out they have cancer?
You all don't understand.
I would recommend you to stop.
No,you don't understand. You think it's okay for people's choices to be taken away if it's "for their own good". If a person wants to make that choice with their life, and knows the consequences of it, then let them. I won't force them, because I don't think it's right to force my idea of what's good for a person at the cost of the person's happiness.
I would recommend you let people make your own choices.
Fine you know what let people die, it's just suicide. I understand completely yet we live in a world where it's apparently okay to use drugs which kill you and people support you for it.
You know what the difference between slitting your wrists and dying from a drug overdose is?
One costs money.
I'm looking out for his safety.
Seriously Golden, I have a lot of respect for you but you clearly would not respect a loved one's choice if you thought it would hurt them.
And I have a lot of respect for you too and no I wouldn't...If I saw my sister shooting up drugs I would stop her and get her serious medical attention to save he life and future.
Fuck drugs, they do nothing but ruin lives and yet you all say we should let people ruin their lives because it's their choice...Not even...They're addicted.
I'm done arguing with you. My point has clearly gone over your head.
If they don't believe they are wasting their life then how can you say they have? All I'm looking for in life is utter happiness, if I thought drugs would bring me this then who are you to tell me I've wasted it by doing so? That's cruel and closed minded. If someone feels that drugs makes their life better and more worthwhile then that's their choice, even if I don't feel the same way.
I've also been told my entire life that Christianity is the only way to live, and that homosexuals are immoral and disgusting and unquestionably wrong. I've been told that black skinned people are beneath their white skinned counterparts. I've been told that oriental races are warmongers. Should I follow these ideals because I have been told them?
(BTW I've noticed other conversations springing up from ours, I hope ours won't be affected by the others
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I know exactly what your point is. You've stated yours very clearly just as I have.
Mine over yours.
Well it's the fact that drugs won't bring you happiness but only sorrow later on and deep sorrow at that. I want to look out for my friends and family and that means being honest with them to keep them safe. It's not cruel or close minded, it's close minded to think drugs will solve all your problems.
I don't even know what to make of that second paragraph...Drugs kill people and to go against it is a GOOD MORAL and a GOOD thing to know. The things you named are meant to oppress other people and discriminate against them, knowing drugs are bad and to not do them and help people that are doing them to recover is good and only solves their problems.
I'm actually getting frustrated but we'll keep going, arguments are fun to me. I just want you to know if I say anything too rude just tell me and i'll apologize since I can get a little mouthy when annoyed.
Nobody's saying drugs will solve someone's problems, but I think life should only be experienced if and how a person wants to experience it. I will never use the "for your own good" argument, because I refuse to tell another person how they should live their lives.
As someone whose brother got hooked on drugs, I thoroughly disagree.
No, people shouldn't be allowed to kill themselves just being it gives them a buzz. I can tell people how to live their lives if it potentially saves their life or makes it better.
And if they say, "I don't care. I don't want that"?
Then what? Just disregard how they feel and do what you think should make them happy?
It's not about giving up on them. If they want to go, then for God's sake let them.
I know you mean well, Golden, really I do. But you just gotta understand that sometimes you can't decide what's good for someone.
I'll still try and help them...Just because they gave up on themselves doesn't mean I did.
You don't know it will bring them sadness. I know plenty of people who have used drugs just because they enjoyed it. As I said before I'm talking about people who want to use drugs. If someone is addicted and does not want to use drugs anymore then they should be helped to overcome that addiction, but that isn't who I am referring to. What's closed minded is to think that drugs will not solve a single persons problems.
The second paragraph was in response to your statement "when you've been taught your entire life that drugs are bad," and I was simply saying that you being taught that your entire life is irrelevant.
You're my hero.
Okay I know that sounded creepy...
First off, what types of drugs?
Secondly, what you're taught during your life matters.
I think this has gotten out of hand guys. I'm at fault partially, but I'm happy to let this go.
Yeah probably, if Lee agrees to end it then i'll stop too.
Thanks.
I just think it was just a bad year for gaming tbh I recently played ps1 classics on my vita crash, spryro etc and had great fun so saying your just getting older is a lie and with all the micro-transaction 80 euro games full of bugs with short campaigns unless it's a masterpiece most games are not worth the money nowadays tbh TLOU is the best game I ever played tho
How do I work it out with someone who thinks I'm disgusting for something I have no control over?
And when did I say she started the argument?
In my experience, multiplayer games aren't really worth the annoyance. Co-Op can be surprisingly fun though. I've been playing MASS effect 3 multiplayer for a couple weeks now, with nary a troll or squeaker.
Any drug. Weed, coke, heroin, acid, lsd, shrooms.
No it doesn't. What you're taught is just a bunch on nonsense, it's how you decipher that nonsense that matters. All those things I said earlier do not matter, it's the fact that I recognized they were wrong that does.
It's bad when you can't even run Tetris properly on new consoles.
That's extremely dangerous.
And yet you haven't cipher that drugs are bad?
By the way, do you wish to stop this fight? Xbox asked us to.
And this is why I kept my Game Boy.
Getting in your car is extremely dangerous.
I have come to find that they don't hurt other people and I have no reason to tell someone to stop doing them. Warning someone of the possible outcomes is understandable, but telling someone they are not allowed to do something because of the sole reason that I don't like it is not understandable.
And I am not bothered by the discussion, if you wish to stop then so be it.
Don't start this shit again, it's different.
...You know what I was about to say "Yeah, let's stop not because I don't want to but because this is XP's thread and he asked us to stop." but you know what I want to stop, you don't even understand what i'm trying to say and you know what, fuck it.
It's not different. They are both unnecessary things that, to certain people, make their life better.
I completely understand what you're saying, I just feel if a man should have any sort of true freedom it should be over himself.
You guys are welcome to continue this discussion if you desire, but we have gotten a bit off track.
You apparently don't...