You think you should respect them doing drugs yet you would force them to stop...Strange.
Don't even give me that it's not a choice anymore because after only a few of a drug you can be hooked. People become addicted long before people notice.
Except drugs make you think you're happy when you're actually just killing yourself and wasting your entire life.
Well that's been covered. If it makes them happy and they are okay with the risk then it's asinine to tell them it's bad, because to them it isn't.
Do you seriously think that I should be okay with a family member or close friend doing drugs, and not do anything to try and help them out when it's obviously killing them and I don't want them to die in a bed, foaming at the mouth looking like an abomination.
If it's what they want and it makes them happy then yes. You're not a very good friend if you try to destroy a so-called friends happiness because you don't agree with it. This doesn't apply to people who don't want to do these things. Now offering help is another situation completely.
Except drugs make you think you're happy when you're actually just killing yourself and wasting your entire life. Do you seriously think tha… moret I should be okay with a family member or close friend doing drugs, and not do anything to try and help them out when it's obviously killing them and I don't want them to die in a bed, foaming at the mouth looking like an abomination.
Except drugs make you think you're happy when you're actually just killing yourself and wasting your entire life.
Well that's been c… moreovered. If it makes them happy and they are okay with the risk then it's asinine to tell them it's bad, because to them it isn't.
Do you seriously think that I should be okay with a family member or close friend doing drugs, and not do anything to try and help them out when it's obviously killing them and I don't want them to die in a bed, foaming at the mouth looking like an abomination.
If it's what they want and it makes them happy then yes. You're not a very good friend if you try to destroy a so-called friends happiness because you don't agree with it. This doesn't apply to people who don't want to do these things. Now offering help is another situation completely.
You think you should respect them doing drugs yet you would force them to stop...Strange.
Don't even give me that it's not a choice anymore because after only a few of a drug you can be hooked. People become addicted long before people notice.
I'd love for you to quote the section(s) where I said I would force them to stop. I'm guessing it's another misinterpretation.
And if the… morey get addicted and want to quick I would help. I've said this many a multiple of times. You seem to be confused.
This word "hypocrite," are you sure you know what it means? I've never said I am against offering help, or offering information prior to a person doing a drug, I've said that if a person so chooses to joyfully and willingly continue to use a drug that it is their choice and there is no reason for me or anyone else to say that can't, or outlaw them from, do(ing) it.
and if they did get addicted and wanted to stop I would do everything in my power to help them overcome their addiction,
.......What… more? Didn't you just say that we should "respect" that person's choice when he's doing drugs, it's their life, and we shouldn't change it?
Okay, so I guess close friends are chopped liver.
Hypocrite.
and if they did get addicted and wanted to stop I would do everything in my power to help them overcome their addiction.
But, if they didn't want to stop, then it's okay? Even though, it's killing them and they don't know it? But if they keep saying that's okay, it's okay? WTF!
I'd love for you to quote the section(s) where I said I would force them to stop. I'm guessing it's another misinterpretation.
And if the… morey get addicted and want to quick I would help. I've said this many a multiple of times. You seem to be confused.
I've said that if a person so chooses to joyfully and willingly continue to use a drug that it is their choice and there is no reason for me or anyone else to say that can't, or outlaw them from, do(ing) it.
I'm not saying they can't do it, nor am I saying that I would outlaw them, I am saying I would offer help, even when they say they don't need help, when they barely have any teeth, their lungs are hurting, they can barely walk without falling down, and are saying that it gives them happiness, when they're probably lying to themselves.
but apparently, I shouldn't give a shit, and that's not a problem?
This word "hypocrite," are you sure you know what it means? I've never said I am against offering help, or offering information prior to a p… moreerson doing a drug, I've said that if a person so chooses to joyfully and willingly continue to use a drug that it is their choice and there is no reason for me or anyone else to say that can't, or outlaw them from, do(ing) it.
If they don't want to stop because it makes them happy then it's okay. If they don't know that then they should know that knowledge, which goes back to being given information about the drug prior to using it. WTF! (As applicable and out of place as yours)
and if they did get addicted and wanted to stop I would do everything in my power to help them overcome their addiction.
But, if the… morey didn't want to stop, then it's okay? Even though, it's killing them and they don't know it? But if they keep saying that's okay, it's okay? WTF!
If they don't want to stop because it makes them happy then it's okay. If they don't know that then they should know that knowledge, which g… moreoes back to being given information about the drug prior to using it. WTF! (As applicable and out of place as yours)
Exactly my point, you would make it (them) illegal, or banned. So "That's what I'm saying," isn't true. (In reference to (Now offering help is another situation completely".) This brings us back to "Offering help and telling them they cannot are not the same thing."
You are saying they can't do it. That's exactly what you said.... "Oh man, you should know that I hate drugs and alcohol and think they should be banned from being used,"
Offering help and saying they cannot do it are not the same thing.
I've said that if a person so chooses to joyfully and willingly continue to use a drug that it is their choice and there is no reason for me… more or anyone else to say that can't, or outlaw them from, do(ing) it.
I'm not saying they can't do it, nor am I saying that I would outlaw them, I am saying I would offer help, even when they say they don't need help, when they barely have any teeth, their lungs are hurting, they can barely walk without falling down, and are saying that it gives them happiness, when they're probably lying to themselves.
but apparently, I shouldn't give a shit, and that's not a problem?
You are saying they can't do it. That's exactly what you said.... "Oh man, you should know that I hate drugs and alcohol and think they should be banned from being used,"
Offering help and saying they cannot do it are not the same thing.
Because I would rather die happy and (possibly, not definitely) young than downtrodden, sad and old. And if another person feels that way also and gets there through the use of drugs then I would never be so crass to tell them no or that they are wasting their life doing so.
You're banning it for the people that it makes happy also, so it is because you dislike it. Everyone's lives are not ruined by the use of these drugs. Knowledge about these drugs is fine, helping people who don't want to do them any longer is fine, banning it is not. Cars ruin way more lives than drugs, should we ban those?
Because I would rather die happy and (possibly, not definitely) young than downtrodden, sad and old. And if another person feels that way al… moreso and gets there through the use of drugs then I would never be so crass to tell them no or that they are wasting their life doing so.
These drugs ruin every life it gets into EXCEPT the ones where it is prescribed at a correct level and by a expert who also has a proper medical license.
Cars ruin way more lives than drugs, should we ban those?
I knew you would say this...You and fucking cars, what is your problem?
You're banning it for the people that it makes happy also, so it is because you dislike it. Everyone's lives are not ruined by the use of th… moreese drugs. Knowledge about these drugs is fine, helping people who don't want to do them any longer is fine, banning it is not. Cars ruin way more lives than drugs, should we ban those?
No it's not. Just because you covet your insignificant life to the extent you would give up happiness for a few more years doesn't mean others should, or do. Which is obviously the truth or you would not push that agenda on others who feel differently (drug users who want to use drugs).
Not really, you sound like a hippie at a drug rally. It's bad, it ruins lives, you shouldn't allow people to commit suicide even more with drugs which make them suffer even more before death.
Uncalled for.
No it's not. Just because you covet your insignificant life to the extent you would give up happiness for a few more years … moredoesn't mean others should, or do. Which is obviously the truth or you would not push that agenda on others who feel differently (drug users who want to use drugs).
These drugs ruin every life it gets into EXCEPT the ones where it is prescribed at a correct level and by a expert who also has a proper med… moreical license.
Cars ruin way more lives than drugs, should we ban those?
I knew you would say this...You and fucking cars, what is your problem?
Then if they don't know it's killing them then you tell them that it is! Then you let them decide. Give people all the information and let them decide if it's worth it.
and if they did get addicted and wanted to stop I would do everything in my power to help them overcome their addiction.
But, if the… morey didn't want to stop, then it's okay? Even though, it's killing them and they don't know it? But if they keep saying that's okay, it's okay? WTF!
No, saying drugs are good because it makes people feel a temporary buzz of happiness is a childish statement to make. Saying it's okay to allow a loved one to commit suicide when you can get them help is a stupid statement to make.
It's not...It's really not...We are talking about drugs...Which are things that release unnormal amounts of chemicals in your brain which even once provides a lot of damage to it. It is a falsified happiness which lasts a little and because of the decrease in chemicals you then get depressed much harder than normal. Which you then think a form of transportation is the same thing.
That's not true, and a completely childish, falsified statement to make.
Because it's a completely applicable example. As stated many times before. Not paying attention again?
Um, no I said being used as food or drinks. Using drugs when you need them for medical purposes is fine, but when you're using them to make yourself "happy" and kill yourself in the process, that's when I'll call it a problem.
You are saying they can't do it. That's exactly what you said.... "Oh man, you should know that I hate drugs and alcohol and think they should be banned from being used,"
Offering help and saying they cannot do it are not the same thing.
Um, not really, you kind of need cars in order to get to a destination and it's only dangerous if you either don't know how to drive or don't understand the rules of the road or have a medical condition that keeps you from driving properly, and you have MANY options to practice driving, and it's funny, because there are MANY cases where drugs and alcohol cause car accidents, so......
That's not true, and a completely childish, falsified statement to make.
Because it's a completely applicable example. As stated many times before. Not paying attention again?
Hippies have a very extreme view on life. I could never live like them, but I completely respect their standings (at least the ones I've been lucky enough to converse with, they may not all be as such). They have an ever present lust for peace, tranquility, and love. It's mesmerizing.
It's bad, it ruins lives
It's bad in your eyes. It ruins all lives in your eyes. See the common denominator here?
, you shouldn't allow people to commit suicide
I completely support assisted suicide. I believe that's another choice that should be in a person's hands. It's their life and if the chemical processes in their brain prohibit them from being happy then I would absolutely never force them to live in misery for their brief time on Earth, that is extremely cruel and sadistic. I feel it should never be a spring of the moment thing. More often than not it is a permanent answer to a temporary problem, but there comes a time when death is better than life.
Not really, you sound like a hippie at a drug rally. It's bad, it ruins lives, you shouldn't allow people to commit suicide even more with drugs which make them suffer even more before death.
It's bad in your eyes. It ruins all lives in your eyes. See the common denominator here?
Someone hasn't been paying attention.
I completely support assisted suicide. I believe that's another choice that should be in a person's hands. It's their life and if the chemical processes in their brain prohibit them from being happy then I would absolutely never force them to live in misery for their brief time on Earth, that is extremely cruel and sadistic. I feel it should never be a spring of the moment thing. More often than not it is a permanent answer to a temporary problem, but there comes a time when death is better than life.
Not really,
Yes, really. How childish.
you sound like a hippie at a drug rally
Hippies have a very extreme view on lif… moree. I could never live like them, but I completely respect their standings (at least the ones I've been lucky enough to converse with, they may not all be as such). They have an ever present lust for peace, tranquility, and love. It's mesmerizing.
It's bad, it ruins lives
It's bad in your eyes. It ruins all lives in your eyes. See the common denominator here?
, you shouldn't allow people to commit suicide
I completely support assisted suicide. I believe that's another choice that should be in a person's hands. It's their life and if the chemical processes in their brain prohibit them from being happy then I would absolutely never force them to live in misery for their brief time on Earth, that is extremely cruel and sadistic. I feel it should never be a spring of the moment thin… [view original content]
So you're against using them unless prescribed by a doctor, even when they make you happy. So yes, banning them as weed is banned, as lsd is banned, as shrooms are banned, banned. Do you even know what you're arguing anymore?
Um, no I said being used as food or drinks. Using drugs when you need them for medical purposes is fine, but when you're using them to make yourself "happy" and kill yourself in the process, that's when I'll call it a problem.
And if they decide it's worth it. Then I shouldn't do anything while they're killing themselves, when they KNOW it's killing them? You're basically supporting suicide.
Then if they don't know it's killing them then you tell them that it is! Then you let them decide. Give people all the information and let them decide if it's worth it.
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You think you should respect them doing drugs yet you would force them to stop...Strange.
Don't even give me that it's not a choice anymore because after only a few of a drug you can be hooked. People become addicted long before people notice.
Then you should understand how dangerous they can be.
Well that's been covered. If it makes them happy and they are okay with the risk then it's asinine to tell them it's bad, because to them it isn't.
If it's what they want and it makes them happy then yes. You're not a very good friend if you try to destroy a so-called friends happiness because you don't agree with it. This doesn't apply to people who don't want to do these things. Now offering help is another situation completely.
Many are dangerous.
Yes, a lot of drugs are dangerous and make people suffer...Actually all the drugs you named before are all dangerous.
That's what I'm saying. And you're still looking like a hypocrite.
I'd love for you to quote the section(s) where I said I would force them to stop. I'm guessing it's another misinterpretation.
And if they get addicted and want to quick I would help. I've said this many a multiple of times. You seem to be confused.
You seem like a hypocrite.
I like how you keep going, is it that hard to drop it?
This word "hypocrite," are you sure you know what it means? I've never said I am against offering help, or offering information prior to a person doing a drug, I've said that if a person so chooses to joyfully and willingly continue to use a drug that it is their choice and there is no reason for me or anyone else to say that can't, or outlaw them from, do(ing) it.
Say again? Offering help and telling them they cannot are not the same thing.
But, if they didn't want to stop, then it's okay? Even though, it's killing them and they don't know it? But if they keep saying that's okay, it's okay? WTF!
Dangerous and definitely causing suffering are not the same thing.
...Wow.
Which would be okay if I were being a hypocrite, as it sits you're just commiting libel.
That was answered earlier, pay attention at least.
Listen, you are just going to let your loved ones die because...Why?
I'm not saying they can't do it, nor am I saying that I would outlaw them, I am saying I would offer help, even when they say they don't need help, when they barely have any teeth, their lungs are hurting, they can barely walk without falling down, and are saying that it gives them happiness, when they're probably lying to themselves.
but apparently, I shouldn't give a shit, and that's not a problem?
I was talking about the alcohol and drugs getting banned, because they kill people, and people don't care if it does kill them and that's a problem.
If they don't want to stop because it makes them happy then it's okay. If they don't know that then they should know that knowledge, which goes back to being given information about the drug prior to using it. WTF! (As applicable and out of place as yours)
But what if they do know what it does, but don't care, because it makes them happy, that's okay?
Exactly my point, you would make it (them) illegal, or banned. So "That's what I'm saying," isn't true. (In reference to (Now offering help is another situation completely".) This brings us back to "Offering help and telling them they cannot are not the same thing."
You are saying they can't do it. That's exactly what you said.... "Oh man, you should know that I hate drugs and alcohol and think they should be banned from being used,"
Offering help and saying they cannot do it are not the same thing.
I love how you don't understand it's not because WE dislike it we think it should be banned but because it ruins lives.
Because I would rather die happy and (possibly, not definitely) young than downtrodden, sad and old. And if another person feels that way also and gets there through the use of drugs then I would never be so crass to tell them no or that they are wasting their life doing so.
Yes, completely.
You play?
You're banning it for the people that it makes happy also, so it is because you dislike it. Everyone's lives are not ruined by the use of these drugs. Knowledge about these drugs is fine, helping people who don't want to do them any longer is fine, banning it is not. Cars ruin way more lives than drugs, should we ban those?
"That's fucking stupid Ben"
These drugs ruin every life it gets into EXCEPT the ones where it is prescribed at a correct level and by a expert who also has a proper medical license.
I knew you would say this...You and fucking cars, what is your problem?
Uncalled for.
No it's not. Just because you covet your insignificant life to the extent you would give up happiness for a few more years doesn't mean others should, or do. Which is obviously the truth or you would not push that agenda on others who feel differently (drug users who want to use drugs).
Not really, you sound like a hippie at a drug rally. It's bad, it ruins lives, you shouldn't allow people to commit suicide even more with drugs which make them suffer even more before death.
That's not true, and a completely childish, falsified statement to make.
Because it's a completely applicable example. As stated many times before. Not paying attention again?
Then if they don't know it's killing them then you tell them that it is! Then you let them decide. Give people all the information and let them decide if it's worth it.
No, saying drugs are good because it makes people feel a temporary buzz of happiness is a childish statement to make. Saying it's okay to allow a loved one to commit suicide when you can get them help is a stupid statement to make.
It's not...It's really not...We are talking about drugs...Which are things that release unnormal amounts of chemicals in your brain which even once provides a lot of damage to it. It is a falsified happiness which lasts a little and because of the decrease in chemicals you then get depressed much harder than normal. Which you then think a form of transportation is the same thing.
Um, no I said being used as food or drinks. Using drugs when you need them for medical purposes is fine, but when you're using them to make yourself "happy" and kill yourself in the process, that's when I'll call it a problem.
Um, not really, you kind of need cars in order to get to a destination and it's only dangerous if you either don't know how to drive or don't understand the rules of the road or have a medical condition that keeps you from driving properly, and you have MANY options to practice driving, and it's funny, because there are MANY cases where drugs and alcohol cause car accidents, so......
Yes, really. How childish.
Hippies have a very extreme view on life. I could never live like them, but I completely respect their standings (at least the ones I've been lucky enough to converse with, they may not all be as such). They have an ever present lust for peace, tranquility, and love. It's mesmerizing.
It's bad in your eyes. It ruins all lives in your eyes. See the common denominator here?
I completely support assisted suicide. I believe that's another choice that should be in a person's hands. It's their life and if the chemical processes in their brain prohibit them from being happy then I would absolutely never force them to live in misery for their brief time on Earth, that is extremely cruel and sadistic. I feel it should never be a spring of the moment thing. More often than not it is a permanent answer to a temporary problem, but there comes a time when death is better than life.
Someone hasn't been paying attention.
Nope.Nope.Nope.I'm done talking to you.
Um, no. You can't simply let someone kill themselves.
So you're against using them unless prescribed by a doctor, even when they make you happy. So yes, banning them as weed is banned, as lsd is banned, as shrooms are banned, banned. Do you even know what you're arguing anymore?
And if they decide it's worth it. Then I shouldn't do anything while they're killing themselves, when they KNOW it's killing them? You're basically supporting suicide.