ODing can cause death, but doing drugs does not definitely cause death. See the difference? I'm not arguing people should go out and OD, I'm not even arguing people should go out and try drugs, I'm saying if doing drugs is what a person wants to do then you're in no position to tell them otherwise.
It's not bad. Saying he can't do it because you don't agree with it is.
Do you not realize that taking excessive amounts of drugs leaves some harmful side effects that hurt your body and drugs CAN cause definite… more death, oh but that doesn't matter, because it makes YOU happy, while your family and friends are crying over your bloated disgusting corpse.
Yes, trying to help this man find an alternative that won't kill him and make himself miserable afterwards is bad.
What makes me sick is allowing someone to waste their one life because they're temporally sad.
And you're the judge of this "temporary sadness?" The only person who knows what or how that person is on the inside is that person. If that person is past the point of no return and you're there with a few happy pills and a straight jacket then you're on par with Satan.
Hypocrite.
Oh there's the comedy again! Remarkable.... not in a good way, but still remarkable.
What makes me sick is allowing someone to waste their one life because they're temporally sad.
You're constant, non-based accusations are tiresome.
Hypocrite.
Okay, so as long as this guy is happy that he's going to kill himself because apparently he can't get over depression, then it should be fine and I should be happy? So, you're saying, that it's okay that people give up as long as it makes THEM happy.
Support suicide? I guess that depends on if you are a black and white moral person. How primitive. In fact I had the detrimental points to t… morehat subject in the same section as I had the supportive points. You probably skipped those in order to hastily peg me as an "everyone kill yourself" supporter.
I'm not religious and therefore don't believe in your satan. If people are truly suffering then suicide nor illegal drugs are the answer. Get official help.
What makes me sick is allowing someone to waste their one life because they're temporally sad.
And you're the judge of this "tempora… morery sadness?" The only person who knows what or how that person is on the inside is that person. If that person is past the point of no return and you're there with a few happy pills and a straight jacket then you're on par with Satan.
Hypocrite.
Oh there's the comedy again! Remarkable.... not in a good way, but still remarkable.
I don't think I have.
Apparently what I've learned is that you two literally don't give a shit about people's lives if they say they're f… moreine and happy, when they could actually be lying to themselves, and if they die a horrible death, then it's okay, because they said it was okay and it made them happy.
You both think using excessive amounts drugs actually makes people happy and thinks it's okay because it makes THAT person happy, but screw everyone else who cries about afterwards.
and one of you thinks suicide is perfectly fine if the person wants to do it and is happy, even though it's an awful thing to do, even though suicide isn't happy.
I've learned: Suicide is a good thing if ONE PERSON is happy, and taking drugs and killing your body is a good, only if it makes you happy.
You fucking people.
and if they want to OD and kill themselves when there are friends and family members that don't want them to die, but that doesn't matter because THAT person is happy, and everyone should be okay with that?
ODing can cause death, but doing drugs does not definitely cause death. See the difference? I'm not arguing people should go out and OD, I'm… more not even arguing people should go out and try drugs, I'm saying if doing drugs is what a person wants to do then you're in no position to tell them otherwise.
It's not bad. Saying he can't do it because you don't agree with it is.
Um, not really, you kind of need cars in order to get to a destination
You don't need a car to live. You need a car to live the life… more you so choose to live.
and it's only dangerous if you either don't know how to drive or don't understand the rules of the road or have a medical condition that keeps you from driving properly
So no accidents are ever caused by other drivers?
because there are MANY cases where drugs and alcohol cause car accidents, so......
That was covered very early in the discussion. I ventured all the way to the top just to get it for you, feel obliged.
"So long as he doesn't endanger others a man deserves sovereignty over his own body."
he's not my Satan, I despise religion as a whole. But you are on par with the Christian Satan if you commit or support such things.
If people are truly suffering then suicide nor illegal drugs are the answer.
Again, you can't peer into them. Suicide may not and never be an answer for you, but for some it's the only answer that will pass the test. I also suggest they seek professional help before even considering the act.
I'm not religious and therefore don't believe in your satan. If people are truly suffering then suicide nor illegal drugs are the answer. Get official help.
he's not my Satan, I despise religion as a whole. But you are on par with the Christian Satan if you commit or support such things.
If… more people are truly suffering then suicide nor illegal drugs are the answer.
Again, you can't peer into them. Suicide may not and never be an answer for you, but for some it's the only answer that will pass the test. I also suggest they seek professional help before even considering the act.
Neither of us want death. I'm glad that a person would try and give a long life a go, but I won't bitch and cry when they don't. Because I don't get to make that choice for them.
*Pro- a prefix indicating favor for some party, system, idea, etc.
So yes, that is what you said. I agree that suicide is sad, though I wouldn't call it terrible since that has negative connotations on the one who commits the act.
Pro suicide
*Pro- a prefix indicating favor for some party, system, idea, etc.
So yes, that is what you said. I agree that suicid… moree is sad, though I wouldn't call it terrible since that has negative connotations on the one who commits the act.
YES. That is exactly what I am saying (well sort of, I don't think you should be happy they committed suicide by any stretch of the imagination, more so you should be understanding and not look at it as a negative action, just taking solace in the fact that they would have rather been nonexistent than existent and miserable)! How terrible is it of you to keep a tormented person where they do not want to be? That's horrifying.
Okay, so as long as this guy is happy that he's going to kill himself because apparently he can't get over depression, then it should be fin… moree and I should be happy? So, you're saying, that it's okay that people give up as long as it makes THEM happy.
No.
Pro suicide
*Pro- a prefix indicating favor for some party, system, idea, etc.
So yes, that is what you said. I agree that suicid… moree is sad, though I wouldn't call it terrible since that has negative connotations on the one who commits the act.
You don't know that. I'm sure you've had a spat with depression and come out the other end (or may still be working on it).. most people have. It is not the same person to person, what you find bearable and overcomable (that's a word now) others may not. Just because you found more happiness than sadness in this world does not mean everyone will do the same, or can do the same, and to suspect view as factual and more woefully subjugate others to the whims you find more accommodating is an atrocious.
I don't need to, they are applicable whether you want to see the facts or not. It's actually disheartening to see an argumentive person be so willfully ignorant and negate facts in favor of not having to submit to that facts implications. I'm not sure if I feel more irritated or more pity.
This entire thing I funny because you don't know me and my struggles. I've suffered since birth from crippling anxiety and deep depression and I'll probably suffer till death. Everyday m life is shit and people are dicks to me. I just am hopeful for the future. I understand how these people feel and honestly it isn't a spat it's blow out suffering. I rarely have happiness in my day. Yet I move forward...
You don't know that. I'm sure you've had a spat with depression and come out the other end (or may still be working on it).. most people hav… moree. It is not the same person to person, what you find bearable and overcomable (that's a word now) others may not. Just because you found more happiness than sadness in this world does not mean everyone will do the same, or can do the same, and to suspect view as factual and more woefully subjugate others to the whims you find more accommodating is an atrocious.
You should see it from their perspective. If that is what makes them happy then by eliminating it you would be making them sad. You would be the cause of their dissatisfaction....... how selfish. Now again, that isn't saying you shouldn't offer them a way out.... but if they don't want a way out because they prefer the life they are living then who are you to change that?
I don't need to, they are applicable whether you want to see the facts or not. It's actually disheartening to see an argumentive person be s… moreo willfully ignorant and negate facts in favor of not having to submit to that facts implications. I'm not sure if I feel more irritated or more pity.
Yes, how horrifying that I deeply care about someone and don't want them to give up on themselves, and cause endless amount of tragedy and loss for that persons loved ones.
And don't get me started on children who don't get to see their mom or dad because one or the other committed suicide because it made them "happy" to not take care of their own flesh and blood.
YES. That is exactly what I am saying (well sort of, I don't think you should be happy they committed suicide by any stretch of the imaginat… moreion, more so you should be understanding and not look at it as a negative action, just taking solace in the fact that they would have rather been nonexistent than existent and miserable)! How terrible is it of you to keep a tormented person where they do not want to be? That's horrifying.
Good. But some people aren't capable of that. If what you say is true, then you of all people should know that it's hard, and why some people can't hold on that long.
This entire thing I funny because you don't know me and my struggles. I've suffered since birth from crippling anxiety and deep depression a… morend I'll probably suffer till death. Everyday m life is shit and people are dicks to me. I just am hopeful for the future. I understand how these people feel and honestly it isn't a spat it's blow out suffering. I rarely have happiness in my day. Yet I move forward...
Yes. If you're more interested in your own happiness than another's then you don't love that person enough for them to be happy. You don't deserve that person in your life in the first place if the only thing they are to you is something for yourself. They aren't there to accommodate you, just as you're not here to accommodate others. If you're life is nothing than that and that is where you get your happiness from then more power to you, a model citizen, but that doesn't hold true for everyone. All I'm seeking in life is happiness, and if another person seeks the same thing and finds it through drugs then I don't pity them, I envy them.
and if they want to OD and kill themselves when there are friends and family members that don't want them to die, but that doesn't matter because THAT person is happy, and everyone should be okay with that?
You should see it from their perspective. If that is what makes them happy then by eliminating it you would be making them sad. You would be… more the cause of their dissatisfaction....... how selfish. Now again, that isn't saying you shouldn't offer them a way out.... but if they don't want a way out because they prefer the life they are living then who are you to change that?
Good. But some people aren't capable of that. If what you say is true, then you of all people should know that it's hard, and why some people can't hold on that long.
Then you have enough in your life to keep moving forward for, some people don't. Those people are the ones who commit suicide (after thinking it through).
This entire thing I funny because you don't know me and my struggles. I've suffered since birth from crippling anxiety and deep depression a… morend I'll probably suffer till death. Everyday m life is shit and people are dicks to me. I just am hopeful for the future. I understand how these people feel and honestly it isn't a spat it's blow out suffering. I rarely have happiness in my day. Yet I move forward...
Then how could you possibly say "I never said that though?" in reference to "Support suicide?" or ""everyone kill yourself" supporter."
Being in favor of (pro) suicide means I support suicide. Meaning I support anyone who kills themselves.
Then you have enough in your life to keep moving forward for, some people don't. Those people are the ones who commit suicide (after thinking it through).
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ODing can cause death, but doing drugs does not definitely cause death. See the difference? I'm not arguing people should go out and OD, I'm not even arguing people should go out and try drugs, I'm saying if doing drugs is what a person wants to do then you're in no position to tell them otherwise.
It's not bad. Saying he can't do it because you don't agree with it is.
If that's what they truly want, then let them have what they want.
No.
And you're the judge of this "temporary sadness?" The only person who knows what or how that person is on the inside is that person. If that person is past the point of no return and you're there with a few happy pills and a straight jacket then you're on par with Satan.
Oh there's the comedy again! Remarkable.... not in a good way, but still remarkable.
And that's why I have no respect for you.
Okay, so as long as this guy is happy that he's going to kill himself because apparently he can't get over depression, then it should be fine and I should be happy? So, you're saying, that it's okay that people give up as long as it makes THEM happy.
No.
I'm not religious and therefore don't believe in your satan. If people are truly suffering then suicide nor illegal drugs are the answer. Get official help.
The feeling is mutual.
I do give a shit about people's lives. That's why I won't force them to live an unhappy life.
Then let them die?
No, let's NOT get help, no, let them kill themselves.
No, illegalization and helping them recover are not the same thing. Until you can change the meanings of words that is has it will be.
and if they want to OD and kill themselves when there are friends and family members that don't want them to die, but that doesn't matter because THAT person is happy, and everyone should be okay with that?
Then you're purposefully ignorant. A terrible fate.
But what if that man is a close friend and family member? Then I still shouldn't give a shit?
No, you are.
Drugs and Cars are two different things, bring up something different other than cars for once.
he's not my Satan, I despise religion as a whole. But you are on par with the Christian Satan if you commit or support such things.
Again, you can't peer into them. Suicide may not and never be an answer for you, but for some it's the only answer that will pass the test. I also suggest they seek professional help before even considering the act.
These people want death and Golden and I don't want them to give up on themselves and you lose respect for that? WOW.
No, I'm serious, I know this, they are not the answer.
Neither of us want death. I'm glad that a person would try and give a long life a go, but I won't bitch and cry when they don't. Because I don't get to make that choice for them.
*Pro- a prefix indicating favor for some party, system, idea, etc.
So yes, that is what you said. I agree that suicide is sad, though I wouldn't call it terrible since that has negative connotations on the one who commits the act.
You are pro suicide, that's what I said.
YES. That is exactly what I am saying (well sort of, I don't think you should be happy they committed suicide by any stretch of the imagination, more so you should be understanding and not look at it as a negative action, just taking solace in the fact that they would have rather been nonexistent than existent and miserable)! How terrible is it of you to keep a tormented person where they do not want to be? That's horrifying.
Because he was probably being selfish.
You don't know that. I'm sure you've had a spat with depression and come out the other end (or may still be working on it).. most people have. It is not the same person to person, what you find bearable and overcomable (that's a word now) others may not. Just because you found more happiness than sadness in this world does not mean everyone will do the same, or can do the same, and to suspect view as factual and more woefully subjugate others to the whims you find more accommodating is an atrocious.
I don't need to, they are applicable whether you want to see the facts or not. It's actually disheartening to see an argumentive person be so willfully ignorant and negate facts in favor of not having to submit to that facts implications. I'm not sure if I feel more irritated or more pity.
This entire thing I funny because you don't know me and my struggles. I've suffered since birth from crippling anxiety and deep depression and I'll probably suffer till death. Everyday m life is shit and people are dicks to me. I just am hopeful for the future. I understand how these people feel and honestly it isn't a spat it's blow out suffering. I rarely have happiness in my day. Yet I move forward...
You should see it from their perspective. If that is what makes them happy then by eliminating it you would be making them sad. You would be the cause of their dissatisfaction....... how selfish. Now again, that isn't saying you shouldn't offer them a way out.... but if they don't want a way out because they prefer the life they are living then who are you to change that?
I love hearing you call others ignorant just because they disagree with you.
Yes, how horrifying that I deeply care about someone and don't want them to give up on themselves, and cause endless amount of tragedy and loss for that persons loved ones.
And don't get me started on children who don't get to see their mom or dad because one or the other committed suicide because it made them "happy" to not take care of their own flesh and blood.
How am I supposed to be okay with that?!
Good. But some people aren't capable of that. If what you say is true, then you of all people should know that it's hard, and why some people can't hold on that long.
Yes. If you're more interested in your own happiness than another's then you don't love that person enough for them to be happy. You don't deserve that person in your life in the first place if the only thing they are to you is something for yourself. They aren't there to accommodate you, just as you're not here to accommodate others. If you're life is nothing than that and that is where you get your happiness from then more power to you, a model citizen, but that doesn't hold true for everyone. All I'm seeking in life is happiness, and if another person seeks the same thing and finds it through drugs then I don't pity them, I envy them.
So........let him kill himself because it makes HIM happy, and even if I try, I should just give up on that man in the long run.
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No, this is true but I suffer and I realize you DON'T need suicide or drugs to get better.
Then I'm sorry that you do suffer. But you can't decide what people want or need to get better and be happy.
I understand what these people feel and they don't need suicide or drugs and letting them to that is horrible.
Then how could you possibly say "I never said that though?" in reference to "Support suicide?" or ""everyone kill yourself" supporter."
Being in favor of (pro) suicide means I support suicide. Meaning I support anyone who kills themselves.
Who was being selfish?
Then you have enough in your life to keep moving forward for, some people don't. Those people are the ones who commit suicide (after thinking it through).
I never said you were a everyone kill yourself supporter but you are pro suicide.
But I don't...I jut fool myself with false hope.