Well, he did make a mistake in almost disclosing to the mundy "witches" (or not witches, who knows), about his Fable nature.
But he didn't know anything, and I found Crane's slapping his hands with the ruler overly excessive (like he could have told him off or something). I guess it's to show Crane is a prick from the beginning (And to show Bigby's start of reformation).
I quite liked the flashback, and the whole setting in Salem where Witch trials began (and they began in 1692, if I'm not mistaken), though I did miss Snow (in flashback).
Bluebeard's facade of being nice (whereas in him lay a psychotic) was pretty well done, but I kinda lol'd at Snow's final line "When I get to the bottom of this....heads will roll." Seriously? While the line wasn't terrible, I definitely could have done without it.
People from the school were talking to Bigby the "witches" in Salem and Bigby said he killed a witch with his teeth, which Crane then hits Bigby on the hand with a ruler saying he cant be saying things like that. Bluebeard wasnt acting nice, he beats up Dee and has him on a Rack and it takes place in 1797 I beleave in the flashback
I'm starting to not like all this flashback stuff with Bigby...
* Nearly telling Mundy 'witches' about his Fable nature
* Crane being … morethe one to teach Bigby (Seriously?)
* Why was Bluebeard acting nice?!
* Also, didn't Bigby enter the Mundane world in the 1700's? I thought that was pointed out somewhere in A Wolf In The Fold
Well, in Bigby's defense, he was basically new to Fabletown, and had no idea about Fabletown rules (Crane was most likely supposed to inform Bigby about the non-disclosure to mundies before, but it's pretty obvious he didn't lol).
Crane was the headmaster back in the homelands (his tale "Legend of the Sleepy Hollow" clearly states he was a school teacher). He probably was in charge of providing education to all human fables, not just Bigby (but yeah, I wish Snow would have taught him instead of the prick Crane...).
Well he was (filthy) rich in homelands, and while not exactly royalty (like Charming), tended to act sophisticated (heck even in volumes 1 and 2, he tends to pretend he's of higher class and better than others). Him acting nice most likely had ulterior motive, to get on Bigby's good side, and be able to torture Dee as he wishes (plus, he invested much in the Fabletown government, so wouldn't make much sense for him to make an enemy out of Bigby unless there was a good reason).
Haven't re-read Wolf in the Fold in a while (I'll be waiting until #150, then after that, I'll be going through the series again; sans Jack of Fables), so I have no idea of the exact date. But if it is indeed 1700s, then it would probably be a continuity error (like with Beast's transformation in the Fairest book).
I'm starting to not like all this flashback stuff with Bigby...
* Nearly telling Mundy 'witches' about his Fable nature
* Crane being … morethe one to teach Bigby (Seriously?)
* Why was Bluebeard acting nice?!
* Also, didn't Bigby enter the Mundane world in the 1700's? I thought that was pointed out somewhere in A Wolf In The Fold
I'm starting to not like all this flashback stuff with Bigby...
* Nearly telling Mundy 'witches' about his Fable nature
* Crane being … morethe one to teach Bigby (Seriously?)
* Why was Bluebeard acting nice?!
* Also, didn't Bigby enter the Mundane world in the 1700's? I thought that was pointed out somewhere in A Wolf In The Fold
Well, he's not stupid here either, just ignorant of how things work, hence the need for the lessons. Snow brought him to Crane to help him blend into the Mundy and hopefully not eat people. She knew what he needed and who would be best to teach him, even if he is a complete dick.
Yeah, but what he knew before were as his life in Big-Bad-Wolf form. Having transformed to human form by the lycanthropy knife, pretty much everything was completely new to him (such as in previous issue of him saying to Snow he's not used to getting around without his fur) - which also included "non-disclosure of Fable nature to the mundies."
I find this to be a learning curve for Bigby (which pretty much every Fables would need to go through, although with Bigby, he would have had slightly more things to learn since he spent all his life before as a wolf), but since Bigby's cunning and intelligent, I'd imagine the learning curve period would have been pretty short (for him to be well-versed in pretty much everything in Fabletown).
The Mercy and Abigail featured here are based off the ones from Arthur Miller's play, The Crucible
Abigail is the primary antagonist of that story, and the real life counterpart of Abigail was one of the initial accusers that pretty much caused the Salem witch trials
Going with her characterization from the Crucible, yes, she is most definitely having some kind of sexual relationship with Crane
I got a chuckle out of that line. That kind of thing, people saying something is too on the nose, usually doesn't bother me. I feel like it's deliberate.
Are they Mundies? They seem to fit more their descriptions from The Crucible. I agree though the back stories and flashbacks have been the best part of the comic. I look forward to it every week. I read it late because Comixology messed up and put a different comic in its place which was disappointing.
At first I wasn't sure whether they were mundies or Fables, so that's why I looked up on Wikipedia. And it turned out they were real life people. And the setting for TWAU Flashback is 1692, Salem, so I thought it made sense (though I could be wrong) that they would be mundies, unaware of Crane, Bigby and others' Fable nature.
Most of the 4 characters above (except for Abigail Williams who is estimated to have lived till 1697) have met their death sometime in 1692, so if they continue with the Salem Flashbacks, it is most likely they will show the Salem Witch Trials and their deaths.
I don't have much knowledge about The Crucible, but after looking on wikipedia, are you talking about the 1962 Opera? Or which Crucible are you referring to?
Are they Mundies? They seem to fit more their descriptions from The Crucible. I agree though the back stories and flashbacks have been the b… moreest part of the comic. I look forward to it every week. I read it late because Comixology messed up and put a different comic in its place which was disappointing.
At first I wasn't sure whether they were mundies or Fables, so that's why I looked up on Wikipedia. And it turned out they were real life p… moreeople. And the setting for TWAU Flashback is 1692, Salem, so I thought it made sense (though I could be wrong) that they would be mundies, unaware of Crane, Bigby and others' Fable nature.
Most of the 4 characters above (except for Abigail Williams who is estimated to have lived till 1697) have met their death sometime in 1692, so if they continue with the Salem Flashbacks, it is most likely they will show the Salem Witch Trials and their deaths.
I don't have much knowledge about The Crucible, but after looking on wikipedia, are you talking about the 1962 Opera? Or which Crucible are you referring to?
I'm talking about the play or the movie it's based on, which I've read and seen, although the years ago, lol. In the links it says the real Abigail was 11 years old and in the book, she's seventeen, the way she's portrayed in the comic. John Proctor in real life was 60, not some hunky 30 year old, so I was wondering if the comic were using the factionalized versions from the written works instead of portraying them how they were in life.
I'm excited to see where they go with this. We might be caught up to the game by the time the last Fables comes out.
At first I wasn't sure whether they were mundies or Fables, so that's why I looked up on Wikipedia. And it turned out they were real life p… moreeople. And the setting for TWAU Flashback is 1692, Salem, so I thought it made sense (though I could be wrong) that they would be mundies, unaware of Crane, Bigby and others' Fable nature.
Most of the 4 characters above (except for Abigail Williams who is estimated to have lived till 1697) have met their death sometime in 1692, so if they continue with the Salem Flashbacks, it is most likely they will show the Salem Witch Trials and their deaths.
I don't have much knowledge about The Crucible, but after looking on wikipedia, are you talking about the 1962 Opera? Or which Crucible are you referring to?
I always thought Fables based on real historical characters (such as King Arthur, Robin Hood) had their real life mundy versions (who live and die as normal human beings), and had alternate Fables versions (who live a long time, much longer than their mundy versions, unless killed, like what happened with Robin Hood Fable in The Last Castle).
If that is the case, then there would be 2 versions of these characters I guess. But why would they exist in the same time as their real life counterparts (since King Arthur and Robin Hood had their famed legends started when their mundy versions were actually alive, but these Salem characters, were they really that infamous at this time?)
I don't know, just thinking about it is giving me a headache lol.
I'm talking about the play or the movie it's based on, which I've read and seen, although the years ago, lol. In the links it says the real … moreAbigail was 11 years old and in the book, she's seventeen, the way she's portrayed in the comic. John Proctor in real life was 60, not some hunky 30 year old, so I was wondering if the comic were using the factionalized versions from the written works instead of portraying them how they were in life.
I'm excited to see where they go with this. We might be caught up to the game by the time the last Fables comes out.
I would say this comic is more canon to Fables than the game is, largely cuz they are linking a lot of things from Fables, introducing characters from the Fables comics, and giving tons of new backstory...
Will the wAU comic only cover the game's arc or will there be additional stories added after the game's arc is finished? I'm planning on trying it out. I only hope that the Nerissa/Faith controversy still stays mainly ambiguous.
It's covering the game plot and things before it in flashbacks. I doubt the Nerissa/Faith controversy will remain ambiguous, but won't be outright revealed.
Will the wAU comic only cover the game's arc or will there be additional stories added after the game's arc is finished? I'm planning on trying it out. I only hope that the Nerissa/Faith controversy still stays mainly ambiguous.
Just finished reading the latest issue and there is another difference between the game and comic. The black-market glamours are cube shaped not tube shaped. Also Snow doesn't tell Bigby it's Lily, but instead says that she's going to the Trip Trap. Also Bigby finds the Salem witches' place of worship in the Salem flashbacks.
Just read it (late due to work), and loved the part where Bigby is able to tell the difference of glamour from real Snow, just from looking from sideways, and also loved the part when Snow said "You know what my hair smells like?"
I also kinda chuckled when Snow said the similarities end with the "racy underwear." Yup, that's our girl Snow, being chaste and that's just to my liking.
One issue I had was, when in the Salem flashbacks. they didn't use any spacing between the words for phrases in faint colours. While in most parts, they were still mostly readable (I looked pretty hard enough), one part which Crane says (when Bigby exits through the school window) was just too difficult to figure out what he was saying (some words I could make out, but trying to make out the complete sentence, I was beginning to get a splitting headache).
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Showing throat??
viewcomic, my friend, viewcomic.
Meh, I prefer omgbeaupeep for some reason
I guess the long wait improves the tension for me :P
Why does gren look like an alien in the comics?
Backing down, like when wolves fight each other and the dominant one makes the other one show his throat to him in surrender.
Why does he show throat to Crane of all people?!
Well, he did make a mistake in almost disclosing to the mundy "witches" (or not witches, who knows), about his Fable nature.
But he didn't know anything, and I found Crane's slapping his hands with the ruler overly excessive (like he could have told him off or something). I guess it's to show Crane is a prick from the beginning (And to show Bigby's start of reformation).
I quite liked the flashback, and the whole setting in Salem where Witch trials began (and they began in 1692, if I'm not mistaken), though I did miss Snow (in flashback).
Bluebeard's facade of being nice (whereas in him lay a psychotic) was pretty well done, but I kinda lol'd at Snow's final line "When I get to the bottom of this....heads will roll." Seriously? While the line wasn't terrible, I definitely could have done without it.
I'm starting to not like all this flashback stuff with Bigby...
People from the school were talking to Bigby the "witches" in Salem and Bigby said he killed a witch with his teeth, which Crane then hits Bigby on the hand with a ruler saying he cant be saying things like that. Bluebeard wasnt acting nice, he beats up Dee and has him on a Rack and it takes place in 1797 I beleave in the flashback
Well, in Bigby's defense, he was basically new to Fabletown, and had no idea about Fabletown rules (Crane was most likely supposed to inform Bigby about the non-disclosure to mundies before, but it's pretty obvious he didn't lol).
Crane was the headmaster back in the homelands (his tale "Legend of the Sleepy Hollow" clearly states he was a school teacher). He probably was in charge of providing education to all human fables, not just Bigby (but yeah, I wish Snow would have taught him instead of the prick Crane...).
Well he was (filthy) rich in homelands, and while not exactly royalty (like Charming), tended to act sophisticated (heck even in volumes 1 and 2, he tends to pretend he's of higher class and better than others). Him acting nice most likely had ulterior motive, to get on Bigby's good side, and be able to torture Dee as he wishes (plus, he invested much in the Fabletown government, so wouldn't make much sense for him to make an enemy out of Bigby unless there was a good reason).
Haven't re-read Wolf in the Fold in a while (I'll be waiting until #150, then after that, I'll be going through the series again; sans Jack of Fables), so I have no idea of the exact date. But if it is indeed 1700s, then it would probably be a continuity error (like with Beast's transformation in the Fairest book).
Oh thank God I wasn't the only one to ask this.
Give Bigby a break. He was like a child still learning how to behave. Dont forget he was a man eating wolf before that.
He wasn't stupid though. Even as a Wolf he knew stuff...
Well, he's not stupid here either, just ignorant of how things work, hence the need for the lessons. Snow brought him to Crane to help him blend into the Mundy and hopefully not eat people. She knew what he needed and who would be best to teach him, even if he is a complete dick.
Yeah, but what he knew before were as his life in Big-Bad-Wolf form. Having transformed to human form by the lycanthropy knife, pretty much everything was completely new to him (such as in previous issue of him saying to Snow he's not used to getting around without his fur) - which also included "non-disclosure of Fable nature to the mundies."
I find this to be a learning curve for Bigby (which pretty much every Fables would need to go through, although with Bigby, he would have had slightly more things to learn since he spent all his life before as a wolf), but since Bigby's cunning and intelligent, I'd imagine the learning curve period would have been pretty short (for him to be well-versed in pretty much everything in Fabletown).
So whats mercey and abigails story? Also is Abigail banging crane?
omgbeaupeep displays them much smoother, but I don't feel like waiting that long so I just go on viewcomic :P
The Mercy and Abigail featured here are based off the ones from Arthur Miller's play, The Crucible
Abigail is the primary antagonist of that story, and the real life counterpart of Abigail was one of the initial accusers that pretty much caused the Salem witch trials
Going with her characterization from the Crucible, yes, she is most definitely having some kind of sexual relationship with Crane
i wonder if we'll get mary and jerseys backstories
It seems we will be getting a backstory on all of the original TWAU characters! XD
I got a chuckle out of that line. That kind of thing, people saying something is too on the nose, usually doesn't bother me. I feel like it's deliberate.
In latest issue, it seemed the most interesting characters were mundies (rather than the Fables themselves). 3 new characters are intorduced:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Griggs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giles_Corey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Proctor_(Salem_witch_trials_victim)
And it has been revealed that the girl in Crane's school (who he's flirting with) from previous issue is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abigail_Williams
Damn, these background stories are shaping up to be more interesting (even moreso than the main stories themselves).....
Are they Mundies? They seem to fit more their descriptions from The Crucible. I agree though the back stories and flashbacks have been the best part of the comic. I look forward to it every week. I read it late because Comixology messed up and put a different comic in its place which was disappointing.
At first I wasn't sure whether they were mundies or Fables, so that's why I looked up on Wikipedia. And it turned out they were real life people. And the setting for TWAU Flashback is 1692, Salem, so I thought it made sense (though I could be wrong) that they would be mundies, unaware of Crane, Bigby and others' Fable nature.
Most of the 4 characters above (except for Abigail Williams who is estimated to have lived till 1697) have met their death sometime in 1692, so if they continue with the Salem Flashbacks, it is most likely they will show the Salem Witch Trials and their deaths.
I don't have much knowledge about The Crucible, but after looking on wikipedia, are you talking about the 1962 Opera? Or which Crucible are you referring to?
And from the looks of it we'll know why Crane didn't care about the Salem Witch Trials soon, if we already don't know the reason.
I'm talking about the play or the movie it's based on, which I've read and seen, although the years ago, lol. In the links it says the real Abigail was 11 years old and in the book, she's seventeen, the way she's portrayed in the comic. John Proctor in real life was 60, not some hunky 30 year old, so I was wondering if the comic were using the factionalized versions from the written works instead of portraying them how they were in life.
I'm excited to see where they go with this. We might be caught up to the game by the time the last Fables comes out.
Maybe the writers got their research wrong? Lol
I always thought Fables based on real historical characters (such as King Arthur, Robin Hood) had their real life mundy versions (who live and die as normal human beings), and had alternate Fables versions (who live a long time, much longer than their mundy versions, unless killed, like what happened with Robin Hood Fable in The Last Castle).
If that is the case, then there would be 2 versions of these characters I guess. But why would they exist in the same time as their real life counterparts (since King Arthur and Robin Hood had their famed legends started when their mundy versions were actually alive, but these Salem characters, were they really that infamous at this time?)
I don't know, just thinking about it is giving me a headache lol.
Is the comic canon? I ask because the game has been stated to be in canon with the main Fables series.
I believe it is. It refers to a lot of things that happened in the main comic.
I would say this comic is more canon to Fables than the game is, largely cuz they are linking a lot of things from Fables, introducing characters from the Fables comics, and giving tons of new backstory...
Will the wAU comic only cover the game's arc or will there be additional stories added after the game's arc is finished? I'm planning on trying it out. I only hope that the Nerissa/Faith controversy still stays mainly ambiguous.
It's covering the game plot and things before it in flashbacks. I doubt the Nerissa/Faith controversy will remain ambiguous, but won't be outright revealed.
Just finished reading the latest issue and there is another difference between the game and comic. The black-market glamours are cube shaped not tube shaped. Also Snow doesn't tell Bigby it's Lily, but instead says that she's going to the Trip Trap. Also Bigby finds the Salem witches' place of worship in the Salem flashbacks.
I'm starting to like these changes to the story, at least the comic isn't a direct copy of the game...
"Maybe you haven't studied that face as much as I have." Aww! Bigby's head over hills for Snow.
I'm loving all this backstory. I'm so glad this comic is a weekly instead of a monthly.
Weekly instead of monthly is what I wanted Fables to be for ages :P
I liked that part.
I also am loving the backstory, as well as the fact of weekly instead of monthly or the current 3-4 month wait.
Just read it (late due to work), and loved the part where Bigby is able to tell the difference of glamour from real Snow, just from looking from sideways, and also loved the part when Snow said "You know what my hair smells like?"
I also kinda chuckled when Snow said the similarities end with the "racy underwear." Yup, that's our girl Snow, being chaste and that's just to my liking.
One issue I had was, when in the Salem flashbacks. they didn't use any spacing between the words for phrases in faint colours. While in most parts, they were still mostly readable (I looked pretty hard enough), one part which Crane says (when Bigby exits through the school window) was just too difficult to figure out what he was saying (some words I could make out, but trying to make out the complete sentence, I was beginning to get a splitting headache).