So you think we should respect everyone's personality automatically until they show they don't deserve it?
Okay. I find that a bit disturbing but you have the right to your view of the world.
'The mods have the power not you' is a really grim way of telling someone they shouldn't voice opinions, really.
No it's to acknowledge they can ban you for being disrespectful who are you? just another user on the forum there job is not to impress you but to moderate the site if you behave in a disrespectful manner towards them they will ban you just take that into consideration before being disrespectful
I respect them as humans, I just dont respect them as better than any other members of the forum yet, as I have no basis to do so.
That is what respect is tho just treating them like any other person on the forum not having a judgmental stance that they should impress you in order for anyone not to be disrespectful towards them
We are getting respect and praise worthy mixed up I mean comingsoon points I agree with you that people shouldn't agree and fangirl/boy over someone no matter what they say because there a mod
There's a difference between 'disrespecting' someone and simpyl not specifically respecting them.
I respect them as humans, I just dont r… moreespect them as better than any other members of the forum yet, as I have no basis to do so.
'The mods have the power not you' is also, frankly, a really grim way of telling someone they shouldn't voice opinions.
This is what I was saying above though - your reason for respecting the mods is because other mods have said they need to be respected - but… more why are those mods worthy of respec in the first place?
And again, if you havent noticed any impact to such an extent that you cant even give me one single example, then accepting it without a certain degree of cynicism is simply foolish, in my opinion.
All I'm saying is we shouldn't automatically respect people before they've actually done anything we know enough about to base this decision on.
So you think we should respect everyone until they show they don't deserve it?
Of course, treat others the way you want to be treate… mored. If they haven't earned my disrespect I see no point in giving them that disrespect, don't really see how that's disturbing but fine. Anyway I think we should end this here, it's kinda going nowhere if you ask me :P
think they'd be a bad mod until they've proven otherwise
Hoping he doesn't think so, but I'm thinking I really wouldn't have any opinion on them until they've shown they can be a good mod.
Everyone you meet has the potential to be hilarious until they prove to you otherwise. Everyone you meet has the potential to be witty, until they prove to you otherwise.
That's not even close to the same thing.
This is like saying everyone is hilarious until it's proven they aren't, or everyone is clever until its proven they aren't.
There are certain traits we look for as mods that are not openly apparent to users. We don't just randomly pick users, we recruit users who demonstrate good traits for potential mods. Several of the moderators (including myself) are hand-picked by Telltale Staff members themselves and not just chosen by other moderators. Just because you skimmed through a user's posting history doesn't mean you see the same things in a user that Telltale Staff members and/or current moderators do.
I agree that people don't inherently deserve to be idolized solely by becoming mods and I also agree that respect is earned, not given, but as I alluded to above, there are good traits the users we pick demonstrate even if they aren't openly inherent to everyone else on the outside. For what it's worth, we spent several months compiling a list of users who could (or can still be) potential mods, which I started all the way last August I believe. It's a laborious process and we spend upwards of several weeks - and heck, as of lately, several months putting users through positive scrutiny before extending an invitation for them to join.
I've done some research into their posting history and haven't found anything outstanding, which is what caused me to raise the question of … moreautomatic respect in the first place.
I'm not saying they won't show themselves to be good moderators, I'm just saying they haven't already done so and we shouldn't automatically believe they will just cause someone else thinks they will.
The mods used to have to delete each comment individually. If you were around for boombox cheetos or the rule 34 attack then you know that being a mod then must have been just horrible.
This is what I was saying above though - your reason for respecting the mods is because other mods have said they need to be respected - but… more why are those mods worthy of respec in the first place?
And again, if you havent noticed any impact to such an extent that you cant even give me one single example, then accepting it without a certain degree of cynicism is simply foolish, in my opinion.
All I'm saying is we shouldn't automatically respect people before they've actually done anything we know enough about to base this decision on.
Of course, I never doubted that work was put into making a decision.
I'm just saying that just because you guys think they're good doesn't mean we have to automatically assume they're perfect and above our own right to scrutiny.
There are certain traits we look for as mods that are not openly apparent to users. We don't just randomly pick users, we recruit users who … moredemonstrate good traits for potential mods. Several of the moderators (including myself) are hand-picked by Telltale Staff members themselves and not just chosen by other moderators. Just because you skimmed through a user's posting history doesn't mean you see the same things in a user that Telltale Staff members and/or current moderators do.
I agree that people don't inherently deserve to be idolized solely by becoming mods and I also agree that respect is earned, not given, but as I alluded to above, there are good traits the users we pick demonstrate even if they aren't openly inherent to everyone else on the outside. For what it's worth, we spent several months compiling a list of users who could (or can still be) potential mods, which I started all the way last August I believe. It's a laborious … [view original content]
Also completely disagree with this, due to how many people on this forum have said they would be moderators if they were offered.
It's no… moret like it's a job no-one wants to do that someone has stepped up and taken on - loads of people would love it (myself excluded, I disagree with the current system of moderation so would be loathe to contribute).
Of course, I didn't mean to sound disrespectful in voicing my opinion above. Although there are certainly many reasons that you all pick mods, people personally don't know all about them and I feel that that's what I'm trying to get across. Although they are certainly picked for a good reason we may not know all about them yet.
There are certain traits we look for as mods that are not openly apparent to users. We don't just randomly pick users, we recruit users who … moredemonstrate good traits for potential mods. Several of the moderators (including myself) are hand-picked by Telltale Staff members themselves and not just chosen by other moderators. Just because you skimmed through a user's posting history doesn't mean you see the same things in a user that Telltale Staff members and/or current moderators do.
I agree that people don't inherently deserve to be idolized solely by becoming mods and I also agree that respect is earned, not given, but as I alluded to above, there are good traits the users we pick demonstrate even if they aren't openly inherent to everyone else on the outside. For what it's worth, we spent several months compiling a list of users who could (or can still be) potential mods, which I started all the way last August I believe. It's a laborious … [view original content]
The mods used to have to delete each comment individually. If you were around for boombox cheetos or the rule 34 attack then you know that being a mod then must have been just horrible.
Of course, I didn't mean to sound disrespectful in voicing my opinion above. Although there are certainly many reasons that you all pick mod… mores, people personally don't know all about them and I feel that that's what I'm trying to get across. Although they are certainly picked for a good reason we may not know all about them yet.
Alright, I'm going to ask that we stay on topic now, guys. If you want to wait and see what the new mods are like, that's entirely understandable, but discussion on both sides has derailed the thread at this point. Thanks.
There are certain traits we look for as mods that are not openly apparent to users. We don't just randomly pick users, we recruit users who … moredemonstrate good traits for potential mods. Several of the moderators (including myself) are hand-picked by Telltale Staff members themselves and not just chosen by other moderators. Just because you skimmed through a user's posting history doesn't mean you see the same things in a user that Telltale Staff members and/or current moderators do.
I agree that people don't inherently deserve to be idolized solely by becoming mods and I also agree that respect is earned, not given, but as I alluded to above, there are good traits the users we pick demonstrate even if they aren't openly inherent to everyone else on the outside. For what it's worth, we spent several months compiling a list of users who could (or can still be) potential mods, which I started all the way last August I believe. It's a laborious … [view original content]
Alright, I'm going to ask that we stay on topic now, guys. If you want to wait and see what the new mods are like, that's entirely understandable, but discussion on both sides has derailed the thread at this point. Thanks.
Oh you were talking about what the new mods have done to deserve praise? I would argue that they have not been douchebags at any time that I can remember. On the internet that desrves a nod. I personally am a douchebag on a regular basis. I don't know how someone would go about being nice all the time. Maybe they have some weird dark irl secret to vent with I don't know. Wtf am I talking about? I'm gonna go brush my teeth.
Oh you were talking about what the new mods have done to deserve praise? I would argue that they have not been douchebags at any time that … moreI can remember. On the internet that desrves a nod. I personally am a douchebag on a regular basis. I don't know how someone would go about being nice all the time. Maybe they have some weird dark irl secret to vent with I don't know. Wtf am I talking about? I'm gonna go brush my teeth.
I do.
Every single comment this past hour from these arguments I've been getting. The sarcasm was easy to see, who wants to be annoyed wi… moreth this argument so much? I think it's common sense that it's sarcasm.
@papai46
But is it truly that big of a deal to derail this thread any further than it already has from the above argument? No. So I ask that we follow Blind's request and drop this entire thing.
Every single comment this past hour from these arguments I've been getting. The sarcasm was easy to see, who wants to be annoyed with this argument so much? I think it's common sense that it's sarcasm.
But is it truly that big of a deal to derail this thread any further than it already has from the above argument? No. So I ask that we follow Blind's request and drop this entire thing.
Oh you were talking about what the new mods have done to deserve praise? I would argue that they have not been douchebags at any time that … moreI can remember. On the internet that desrves a nod. I personally am a douchebag on a regular basis. I don't know how someone would go about being nice all the time. Maybe they have some weird dark irl secret to vent with I don't know. Wtf am I talking about? I'm gonna go brush my teeth.
Okay well you dont have to praise anyone. You also dont have to tell other people what they should and shouldn't do. I'm going to go ahead and extend the new mods a premature thank you for cleaning up a rediculous mess of trolling, flaming, spamming, and general douchebaggery that I would sooner ban everyone invovled with. Thank you, new mods, for doing all that stuff in the future so I don't have to look at it and for probably handling it better than a vast majority of people on these forums.
Plenty of people haven't openly been douchebags, I don't think thats enough of a criteria for 'respect' and 'praise'.
Should people be praised for not being theives, for example? Seems like an odd thing to praise someone for really.
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No it's to acknowledge they can ban you for being disrespectful who are you? just another user on the forum there job is not to impress you but to moderate the site if you behave in a disrespectful manner towards them they will ban you just take that into consideration before being disrespectful
That is what respect is tho just treating them like any other person on the forum not having a judgmental stance that they should impress you in order for anyone not to be disrespectful towards them
We are getting respect and praise worthy mixed up I mean comingsoon points I agree with you that people shouldn't agree and fangirl/boy over someone no matter what they say because there a mod
This is sarcasm.
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That's not even close to the same thing.
This is like saying everyone is hilarious until it's proven they aren't, or everyone is clever until its proven they aren't.
That's not the same thing, again (why do people so often try to overapply idioms?).
I want pepel to think im funny. Does that mean I assume every single person i meet is incredibly funny? Of course not, that would be silly.
want peopel to respect me. DOes that mean I assume every single person I meet is worthy of respect?
Exactly. They're neither worthy of respect nor disrespect until we actually see what they do.
Everyone you meet has the potential to be hilarious until they prove to you otherwise. Everyone you meet has the potential to be witty, until they prove to you otherwise.
There are certain traits we look for as mods that are not openly apparent to users. We don't just randomly pick users, we recruit users who demonstrate good traits for potential mods. Several of the moderators (including myself) are hand-picked by Telltale Staff members themselves and not just chosen by other moderators. Just because you skimmed through a user's posting history doesn't mean you see the same things in a user that Telltale Staff members and/or current moderators do.
I agree that people don't inherently deserve to be idolized solely by becoming mods and I also agree that respect is earned, not given, but as I alluded to above, there are good traits the users we pick demonstrate even if they aren't openly inherent to everyone else on the outside. For what it's worth, we spent several months compiling a list of users who could (or can still be) potential mods, which I started all the way last August I believe. It's a laborious process and we spend upwards of several weeks - and heck, as of lately, several months putting users through positive scrutiny before extending an invitation for them to join.
The mods used to have to delete each comment individually. If you were around for boombox cheetos or the rule 34 attack then you know that being a mod then must have been just horrible.
Oh god...
Of course, I never doubted that work was put into making a decision.
I'm just saying that just because you guys think they're good doesn't mean we have to automatically assume they're perfect and above our own right to scrutiny.
thank god.
Of course, I didn't mean to sound disrespectful in voicing my opinion above. Although there are certainly many reasons that you all pick mods, people personally don't know all about them and I feel that that's what I'm trying to get across. Although they are certainly picked for a good reason we may not know all about them yet.
...I was around then.
Neither of these two were mods then, were they?
I was responding to Flog's comment, not yours.
I know...I just wanted to input >.>
Alright, I'm going to ask that we stay on topic now, guys. If you want to wait and see what the new mods are like, that's entirely understandable, but discussion on both sides has derailed the thread at this point. Thanks.
Was i in said "Possible Mods" list?
You're horrible at sarcasm skrub.
Nope.
Before anyone else asks, I'm not going to say if anyone is/is not being considered as that kind of defeats the point.
You can't speak with sarcasm over the internet, it's impossible, unless someone can read into your text.
I'm wondering blind - has any reason been given by Telltale for using volunteer mods rather than hiring them as most companies do?
i assume its an upscaling/funding issue, but there's a possibility its a more ingrained philosophical decision.
I tought we had something between us Blind sniff
Okay. Thanks Blind, things were starting to get a little out of hand... >.>
You should tell that to him, not to me.
Weren't you still banned like, a week ago? :P
It's not his fault. Plus, I was saying it to you, I'm sure he understands. He receives these notifications too.
Oh you were talking about what the new mods have done to deserve praise? I would argue that they have not been douchebags at any time that I can remember. On the internet that desrves a nod. I personally am a douchebag on a regular basis. I don't know how someone would go about being nice all the time. Maybe they have some weird dark irl secret to vent with I don't know. Wtf am I talking about? I'm gonna go brush my teeth.
Plenty of people haven't openly been douchebags, I don't think thats enough of a criteria for 'respect' and 'praise'.
Should people be praised for not being theives, for example? Seems like an odd thing to praise someone for really.
Of course.
Yeah, but Blind said that getting a ban doesn't disqualify a person.
I do.
Every single comment this past hour from these arguments I've been getting. The sarcasm was easy to see, who wants to be annoyed with this argument so much? I think it's common sense that it's sarcasm.
@papai46
But is it truly that big of a deal to derail this thread any further than it already has from the above argument? No. So I ask that we follow Blind's request and drop this entire thing.
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dw this is golden's way of telling us he loves us.
I commend you on your good dental hygiene.
Okay well you dont have to praise anyone. You also dont have to tell other people what they should and shouldn't do. I'm going to go ahead and extend the new mods a premature thank you for cleaning up a rediculous mess of trolling, flaming, spamming, and general douchebaggery that I would sooner ban everyone invovled with. Thank you, new mods, for doing all that stuff in the future so I don't have to look at it and for probably handling it better than a vast majority of people on these forums.