What an answer! Truly, you have shown your brilliance and attention to detail on what Moxxy says and does throughout the 3 games. Have an A for effort!
Oops, sorry. Seems i accidentally dropped it in to a hole. Be a dear a pick up your A from the hole would you?
Well, it's true, though. These days, homosexuals appear to be added into games just for the heck of it. It feels bland and unnecessary and I can't help but always think it's just meant to be a sign that says "look how supportive we are, we added gays in our game." It's not needed. If that's the work of this Anthony Burch fella, I can sort of get behind the hate, I guess.
I'm surprised Janey gets so much damn flak.
She's irritating as shit because she regurgitates WAAAAY too much personal information all th… moree time, and a lot of her conversation is her squeezing in "LOOK HOW GAY I AM" whenever she can.
But it's true to life. I've met so many irritating people just like Janey who keep trying to pummel in how unique they are by throwing their life story at me every other sentence and crap like that. Janey is very much a REAL archetype of a person. And to say she's complete shit and badly written just because one of those things happens to be her sexuality? Something that we shouldn't even be thinking is an issue anymore? Eesh.
I NEVER hear anyone talking about "Ugh, there's no reason for us to know about THIS part of the character" unless it's their sexuality. I am surprised the industry isn't past this crap already.
I'm surprised Janey gets so much damn flak.
She's irritating as shit because she regurgitates WAAAAY too much personal information all th… moree time, and a lot of her conversation is her squeezing in "LOOK HOW GAY I AM" whenever she can.
But it's true to life. I've met so many irritating people just like Janey who keep trying to pummel in how unique they are by throwing their life story at me every other sentence and crap like that. Janey is very much a REAL archetype of a person. And to say she's complete shit and badly written just because one of those things happens to be her sexuality? Something that we shouldn't even be thinking is an issue anymore? Eesh.
I NEVER hear anyone talking about "Ugh, there's no reason for us to know about THIS part of the character" unless it's their sexuality. I am surprised the industry isn't past this crap already.
Cukcold is an insult in the same category as bastard used to. Pedophile on the other hand is a medical term. And you just compared getting cheated on to pedophilia. Want me to get you a shovel, because i think you can still dig yourself deeper in the mud here.
but cuckold isn't an insult
if a known pedo were to write a book i'm pretty sure not a lot of people would give it the benefit of the doubt, even if every character in it is a 90 years old giraffe, that's because people hate pedos
What I almost love about Janey is the fact that the writers are very clearly proud of finally having a lesbian character in their game, set her up with Athena... and then make her act like a pervert. Badgering Athena, reveal she is casually stalking Moxxi, and have her hit on another woman we never see again in front of Athena. It really felt like they really wanted to hammer in how much of a lesbian she was, but in the process, accidently make her out to be a pretty big pervy douchebag.
Well, it's true, though. These days, homosexuals appear to be added into games just for the heck of it. It feels bland and unnecessary and I… more can't help but always think it's just meant to be a sign that says "look how supportive we are, we added gays in our game." It's not needed. If that's the work of this Anthony Burch fella, I can sort of get behind the hate, I guess.
What I almost love about Janey is the fact that the writers are very clearly proud of finally having a lesbian character in their game, set … moreher up with Athena... and then make her act like a pervert. Badgering Athena, reveal she is casually stalking Moxxi, and have her hit on another woman we never see again in front of Athena. It really felt like they really wanted to hammer in how much of a lesbian she was, but in the process, accidently make her out to be a pretty big pervy douchebag.
It's still hard to add a homosexual character even if you WANT that to be part of your narrative.
"It doesn't affect you if a character happens to be gay and game stories can't move on without being free to do this." "What's the point of the character being gay, it has no holding on the story and should be there."
This is the exact argument that happens every single time a homosexual character is in a game. And yet this conversation doesn't happen to any OTHER topic. Just annoying.
Well, it's true, though. These days, homosexuals appear to be added into games just for the heck of it. It feels bland and unnecessary and I… more can't help but always think it's just meant to be a sign that says "look how supportive we are, we added gays in our game." It's not needed. If that's the work of this Anthony Burch fella, I can sort of get behind the hate, I guess.
It's still hard to add a homosexual character even if you WANT that to be part of your narrative.
"It doesn't affect you if a character h… moreappens to be gay and game stories can't move on without being free to do this." "What's the point of the character being gay, it has no holding on the story and should be there."
This is the exact argument that happens every single time a homosexual character is in a game. And yet this conversation doesn't happen to any OTHER topic. Just annoying.
I just think the deal is that instead of being "Oh god, look at that creepy character." It's gone "Ugh, look how much of a creepy lesbian she is." If she acted like she does now, AND straight. No one would bring the orientation up.
... In fact, people would probably be fine with it because "AW YEH SLUTTY CHICKS FOR DUDES" or something.
Apparently, some guy went "BURCH YOU FUCKING SJW SHILL WHY DID YOU NOT MAKE HER BI SO I CAN BANG HER PLEEEAAAASE I WANT TO FUCK HER AND HER SEXY ACCENT SO HARD AND DEM HIPS, HNNNNNGH."
...What happened to "Let's talk about guns, and how OP this particular one is, and how we can use it to try and wipe out all those mooks over there?"
I don't even want to IMAGINE.
I just think the deal is that instead of being "Oh god, look at that creepy character." It's gone "Ugh, loo… morek how much of a creepy lesbian she is." If she acted like she does now, AND straight. No one would bring the orientation up.
... In fact, people would probably be fine with it because "AW YEH SLUTTY CHICKS FOR DUDES" or something.
i don't think anyone had any problems with Hammerlock so you can write a good character that is also gay
people get up in arms about this kind of thing in particular as a reaction to... movements that seek to use our favourite media for things that have nothing to do with it, SJWs are their own worst enemy, kind of like furries a decade ago.
It's still hard to add a homosexual character even if you WANT that to be part of your narrative.
"It doesn't affect you if a character h… moreappens to be gay and game stories can't move on without being free to do this." "What's the point of the character being gay, it has no holding on the story and should be there."
This is the exact argument that happens every single time a homosexual character is in a game. And yet this conversation doesn't happen to any OTHER topic. Just annoying.
You know, we don't really need relationship stuff too. And yet, we have it in every possible thing, a game, a movie, a series. Why? It's not like there's something new they can show, just two people dating each other.
Well, it's true, though. These days, homosexuals appear to be added into games just for the heck of it. It feels bland and unnecessary and I… more can't help but always think it's just meant to be a sign that says "look how supportive we are, we added gays in our game." It's not needed. If that's the work of this Anthony Burch fella, I can sort of get behind the hate, I guess.
SJWs and Bronies are pretty much the worst enemies for everyone. Sad, because I have Brony friends. Fortunately they keep quiet about it and only stick to discussing episodes and identifying easter eggs.
There's also kids who use mics, but that was established already.
i don't think anyone had any problems with Hammerlock so you can write a good character that is also gay
people get up in arms about this… more kind of thing in particular as a reaction to... movements that seek to use our favourite media for things that have nothing to do with it, SJWs are their own worst enemy, kind of like furries a decade ago.
Borderlands does handle it WELL. Many characters with this as their variety piece, and Janey is just the REALLY LOUD one. Borderlands isn't the best EXAMPLE of that argument.
i don't think anyone had any problems with Hammerlock so you can write a good character that is also gay
people get up in arms about this… more kind of thing in particular as a reaction to... movements that seek to use our favourite media for things that have nothing to do with it, SJWs are their own worst enemy, kind of like furries a decade ago.
What an answer! Truly, you have shown your brilliance and attention to detail on what Moxxy says and does throughout the 3 games. Have an A … morefor effort!
Oops, sorry. Seems i accidentally dropped it in to a hole. Be a dear a pick up your A from the hole would you?
If I wanna throw Janey into some lovin', I can make a bisexual profile for her. Hell, it would even work if you go ahead and assume that she said she doesn't like guys just to get them off her back.
Apparently, some guy went "BURCH YOU FUCKING SJW SHILL WHY DID YOU NOT MAKE HER BI SO I CAN BANG HER PLEEEAAAASE I WANT TO FUCK HER AND HER … moreSEXY ACCENT SO HARD AND DEM HIPS, HNNNNNGH."
...What happened to "Let's talk about guns, and how OP this particular one is, and how we can use it to try and wipe out all those mooks over there?"
You know, we don't really need relationship stuff too. And yet, we have it in every possible thing, a game, a movie, a series. Why? It's not like there's something new they can show, just two people dating each other.
This logic...
That guy should discover text roleplaying habits.
If I wanna throw Janey into some lovin', I can make a bisexual profile for her. Hell, i… moret would even work if you go ahead and assume that she said she doesn't like guys just to get them off her back.
All these things being said, a Telltale kind of game actually is a PERFECT place for a character like Janey. These games are all about story, and characters themselves. Not the violence and such.
I suppose making her bi would be a better choice, as long as it's kept subtle.
That's what they missed out. Hammy only offhandly mentions… more he has an ex-boyfriend and that's out.
There's no need to jump ship and go "LET'S PUT IT EVERYWHERE", because getting overexcited will result in some nasty backdrafts at times.
Am I the only one who don't find Janey annoying at all? Like, what the hell? She's just talking to us and nothing else, it's not like she's being horribly stupid or talking about herself 100% of time. But then again, some people find Angel annoying so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
I'm surprised Janey gets so much damn flak.
She's irritating as shit because she regurgitates WAAAAY too much personal information all th… moree time, and a lot of her conversation is her squeezing in "LOOK HOW GAY I AM" whenever she can.
But it's true to life. I've met so many irritating people just like Janey who keep trying to pummel in how unique they are by throwing their life story at me every other sentence and crap like that. Janey is very much a REAL archetype of a person. And to say she's complete shit and badly written just because one of those things happens to be her sexuality? Something that we shouldn't even be thinking is an issue anymore? Eesh.
I NEVER hear anyone talking about "Ugh, there's no reason for us to know about THIS part of the character" unless it's their sexuality. I am surprised the industry isn't past this crap already.
Here's the thing....If Janey was a heterosexual male there would have been no reaction. Hell, there would have been a nod and a wink from the old boys club. And that there, ladies and gentlemen, is a big goddamn problem. It tells that the old attitudes are still there, they've just been driven to hiding.
What I almost love about Janey is the fact that the writers are very clearly proud of finally having a lesbian character in their game, set … moreher up with Athena... and then make her act like a pervert. Badgering Athena, reveal she is casually stalking Moxxi, and have her hit on another woman we never see again in front of Athena. It really felt like they really wanted to hammer in how much of a lesbian she was, but in the process, accidently make her out to be a pretty big pervy douchebag.
Am I the only one who don't find Janey annoying at all? Like, what the hell? She's just talking to us and nothing else, it's not like she's … morebeing horribly stupid or talking about herself 100% of time. But then again, some people find Angel annoying so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
cuckold is a word that means a certain something, if you think cuckold is an insult you're basically saying being a cuck is bad
i didn't compare cuckolds to pedos, i just made a similitude, the point (which you missed) was that the characteristics of the writer can turn off people from reading their work.i could've used other things people hate, i used pedophilia bcause most people hate it, just switch pedophile with christian if it makes you unconfortable
Cukcold is an insult in the same category as bastard used to. Pedophile on the other hand is a medical term. And you just compared getting c… moreheated on to pedophilia. Want me to get you a shovel, because i think you can still dig yourself deeper in the mud here.
Personally, the only thing I find odd about Tina is the way she sounds... you know, like she's at least twice her real age. I'm always confused by that, especially when I can't see her and can only hear.
Borderlands does handle it WELL. Many characters with this as their variety piece, and Janey is just the REALLY LOUD one. Borderlands isn't the best EXAMPLE of that argument.
You mean why character who has manipulated vault hunters to her own ends, spread her influence through her family and personal relationship far and wide, including the entire catch-a-ride system, is a technical wizard and a lot older than she looks warrants a bit more than a 'slut'? And how she always seems to end up either completely escaping retaliation or ending up in a better position as a result of her schemes? Sorry, thought you played the games. My mistake.
I've seen you for what you are, sunshine. Thats all.
don't expect me to explain why Moxxy's not complicated when you didn't explain why she is
i notice the tone of your posts is changing, i guess people with no arguments must fall back on something
Am I the only one who don't find Janey annoying at all? Like, what the hell? She's just talking to us and nothing else, it's not like she's … morebeing horribly stupid or talking about herself 100% of time. But then again, some people find Angel annoying so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Apparently, some guy went "BURCH YOU FUCKING SJW SHILL WHY DID YOU NOT MAKE HER BI SO I CAN BANG HER PLEEEAAAASE I WANT TO FUCK HER AND HER … moreSEXY ACCENT SO HARD AND DEM HIPS, HNNNNNGH."
...What happened to "Let's talk about guns, and how OP this particular one is, and how we can use it to try and wipe out all those mooks over there?"
pretty sure that was a troll or not serious
there's some sort of war going on in gaming communities (especially reddit), arguably spawned… more by the rise of people fucking with games
funnily enough, sjw/feminism made writing a popular gay/strong female character harder
a complicated character is a character with complicated personality traits, do you seriously find a manipulative slut complicated? because that's all you described.
You mean why character who has manipulated vault hunters to her own ends, spread her influence through her family and personal relationship … morefar and wide, including the entire catch-a-ride system, is a technical wizard and a lot older than she looks warrants a bit more than a 'slut'? And how she always seems to end up either completely escaping retaliation or ending up in a better position as a result of her schemes? Sorry, thought you played the games. My mistake.
I've seen you for what you are, sunshine. Thats all.
don't expect me to explain why Moxxy's not complicated when you didn't explain why she is
i notice the tone of your posts is changing, i guess people with no arguments must fall back on something
So you're saying someone who is clearly highly intelligent, can and does maintain a completely separate public personality, has a soft spot for robots and AI's and is generally clearly not as simple as she wants everyone to think is still just a 'manipulative slut'.
Sure, sunshine.
a complicated character is a character with complicated personality traits, do you seriously find a manipulative slut complicated? because that's all you described.
You're not the only one to not find Janey annoying at all !
I'll go even further as to say I also like the character, especially all the silly stories she writes those always make me laugh.
I never found Angel annoying either.
Then again I also like Pickle a lot, and to my surprise there are tons of people who hate him... Never understood why.
In fact there are no character that annoys me, BUT there are those 2 parts I'd like to discuss with you people. No clue if they have been written by Burch and anyway it doesn't matter since I don't want to enter that controversy...
See in the Torgue campaign there are 2 lines that I found extremely irritating and stupid and thought they ruined the previous joke. Both are from Moxxi.
1) There is this one that almost ends up by "blah blah blah... third base" which was funny until 2 seconds after Moxxi adds "this is a sex thing" (or something like that). Why add this last part ? Is there anyone on earth that didn't get the first innuendo ? Why hammer it afterwards ? Are we gamers supposed to be idiots ? OR is there something else I didn't understand and that's supposed to be somehow more funny by adding the last part (english not being my native tongue, but still I knew about 3rd base) ?
2) When she talks about Motor Momma and there is the "noone but me eats my girlfriend" line which was funny until well, AGAIN, 2 seconds later we get the whole "puke in my mouth" / "sorry innuendo" / "defense mechanism" monologue that, for me, ruined it all... I would have loved to get just a "Hahem..." and then she goes on trying to pretend nothing happened or something like that, but really this whole overdone monologue right after that really really irritated me as well and I thought to myself this was extremely bad writing.
Or again, was there supposed to be something funny about it that I didn't get ?
Am I the only one who don't find Janey annoying at all? Like, what the hell? She's just talking to us and nothing else, it's not like she's … morebeing horribly stupid or talking about herself 100% of time. But then again, some people find Angel annoying so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
I believe Anthony also wrote (at least) some of Jack's scenes because Dameon Clarke posted on Twitter that he recognised his writing during the recording for Catch A Ride (and he wouldn't have been shown the JackApedia entries as he didn't need to voice them).
It should also be noted how amazing each of the Jack scenes were...
This is all I'll say on the matter, because as soon as I saw that OP's argument boiled down to three keywords "cuckhold", "memes" and "SJWism" (which are the nonsensical buzzwords of Anthony's haters that are acrimoniously spurted without any semblance of a real argument as to why his writing is actually "bad") I realised that it wasn't worth anyone's time.
So OP, if you ever want to have a real discussion deconstructing Anthony's writing based on your own thoughts (AKA not just parroting the vitriol of the sad keyboard warriors who get some sort of pathetic thrill out of trolling Anthony), then I'll gladly engage.
Yes, I'm fairly certain that's all he wrote.
Thread link: https://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/comment/2030838/#Comment… more_2030838
EDIT: What kind of person doesn't appreciate the vast insight and wisdom that memes are?
I just don't want Tales to become a terrible parade of memes
From a writer's perspective, everything's been done before, leading to plenty of stuff being called cliche, which is apparently bad. When all that matters is how a story's told and the effect it has on you. And of course, everything is poorly written or 'lazily done' too. There's always someone that will say that, though it's subjective and it's not phrased as such.
I'll be honest, Pickle has a TERRIBLE cockney accent, and...well...Americans didn't like THAT all that much. I can understand. Also, they hate how he pinches money from your pockets every single time you talk to him, and apparently he's a small annoying creature, according to some.
Still like him, though. I got the E-Gun and it was so epic.
Well, the first one is...uh...Captain Obvious. Irritating.
The second one, in many player's opinions, isn't annoying, as we get to see beneath the sultry exterior that is Moxxi Hodunk. Then again, each to his own.
You're not the only one to not find Janey annoying at all !
I'll go even further as to say I also like the character, especially all the… more silly stories she writes those always make me laugh.
I never found Angel annoying either.
Then again I also like Pickle a lot, and to my surprise there are tons of people who hate him... Never understood why.
In fact there are no character that annoys me, BUT there are those 2 parts I'd like to discuss with you people. No clue if they have been written by Burch and anyway it doesn't matter since I don't want to enter that controversy...
See in the Torgue campaign there are 2 lines that I found extremely irritating and stupid and thought they ruined the previous joke. Both are from Moxxi.
1) There is this one that almost ends up by "blah blah blah... third base" which was funny until 2 seconds after Moxxi adds "this is a sex thing" (or something like that). Why add this last part ? Is ther… [view original content]
Look at them neckbeards, so desperate to get a girl that they've degenerated into misogynic bastards who cling onto outdated ideas that only THEY use now.
Here's the thing....If Janey was a heterosexual male there would have been no reaction. Hell, there would have been a nod and a wink from th… moree old boys club. And that there, ladies and gentlemen, is a big goddamn problem. It tells that the old attitudes are still there, they've just been driven to hiding.
Also, they hate how he pinches money from your pockets every single time you talk to him. Yes. The devs did that.
Lol no way !!! Ha ha ha ha : awesome !
Never noticed lol !
On the other hand, about Moxxi Hodunk don't we get other clues in the main game ?
Well no matter, it irritates me nonetheless and I still think it ruins the joke, so to speak.
Also I just remembered, there is that character that I find is overdone and there is a hammering on his personality that is irritating too : it's the old guy that is creepy on Captain Scarlett :
What it always felt to me about this character, and again, no matter who wrote about him, is that it really seems a personal vendetta from the person who wrote his lines and interactions. In other words I suspect he's a real world character from one of the writer's life and the writer takes revenge by "writing" him how he is, I also suspect the model looks like the real world person.
I'm not sure, it's just and odd feeling I had, it really seemed like a scenarist's real world revenge to me.
Sure some of the echos are funny, especially the snorring one, but when you look at the entire matter and how defined the character is on so many aspects for such a short appearance : it's suspicious. See what I mean ?
I'll be honest, Pickle has a TERRIBLE cockney accent, and...well...Americans didn't like THAT all that much. I can understand. Also, they ha… morete how he pinches money from your pockets every single time you talk to him, and apparently he's a small annoying creature, according to some.
Still like him, though. I got the E-Gun and it was so epic.
Well, the first one is...uh...Captain Obvious. Irritating.
The second one, in many player's opinions, isn't annoying, as we get to see beneath the sultry exterior that is Moxxi Hodunk. Then again, each to his own.
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What an answer! Truly, you have shown your brilliance and attention to detail on what Moxxy says and does throughout the 3 games. Have an A for effort!
Oops, sorry. Seems i accidentally dropped it in to a hole. Be a dear a pick up your A from the hole would you?
Well, it's true, though. These days, homosexuals appear to be added into games just for the heck of it. It feels bland and unnecessary and I can't help but always think it's just meant to be a sign that says "look how supportive we are, we added gays in our game." It's not needed. If that's the work of this Anthony Burch fella, I can sort of get behind the hate, I guess.
Oddly enough, she's probably the nicest person on Elpis.
Sad that people completely forgot about that.
Cukcold is an insult in the same category as bastard used to. Pedophile on the other hand is a medical term. And you just compared getting cheated on to pedophilia. Want me to get you a shovel, because i think you can still dig yourself deeper in the mud here.
What I almost love about Janey is the fact that the writers are very clearly proud of finally having a lesbian character in their game, set her up with Athena... and then make her act like a pervert. Badgering Athena, reveal she is casually stalking Moxxi, and have her hit on another woman we never see again in front of Athena. It really felt like they really wanted to hammer in how much of a lesbian she was, but in the process, accidently make her out to be a pretty big pervy douchebag.
Or maybe they went a bit too overboard.
Keep it subtle or something, next time.
It's still hard to add a homosexual character even if you WANT that to be part of your narrative.
"It doesn't affect you if a character happens to be gay and game stories can't move on without being free to do this." "What's the point of the character being gay, it has no holding on the story and should be there."
This is the exact argument that happens every single time a homosexual character is in a game. And yet this conversation doesn't happen to any OTHER topic. Just annoying.
You should see Reddit, it got quite vicious.
I don't even want to IMAGINE.
I just think the deal is that instead of being "Oh god, look at that creepy character." It's gone "Ugh, look how much of a creepy lesbian she is." If she acted like she does now, AND straight. No one would bring the orientation up.
... In fact, people would probably be fine with it because "AW YEH SLUTTY CHICKS FOR DUDES" or something.
Apparently, some guy went "BURCH YOU FUCKING SJW SHILL WHY DID YOU NOT MAKE HER BI SO I CAN BANG HER PLEEEAAAASE I WANT TO FUCK HER AND HER SEXY ACCENT SO HARD AND DEM HIPS, HNNNNNGH."
...What happened to "Let's talk about guns, and how OP this particular one is, and how we can use it to try and wipe out all those mooks over there?"
i don't think anyone had any problems with Hammerlock so you can write a good character that is also gay
people get up in arms about this kind of thing in particular as a reaction to... movements that seek to use our favourite media for things that have nothing to do with it, SJWs are their own worst enemy, kind of like furries a decade ago.
You know, we don't really need relationship stuff too. And yet, we have it in every possible thing, a game, a movie, a series. Why? It's not like there's something new they can show, just two people dating each other.
This logic...
SJWs and Bronies are pretty much the worst enemies for everyone. Sad, because I have Brony friends. Fortunately they keep quiet about it and only stick to discussing episodes and identifying easter eggs.
There's also kids who use mics, but that was established already.
Borderlands does handle it WELL. Many characters with this as their variety piece, and Janey is just the REALLY LOUD one. Borderlands isn't the best EXAMPLE of that argument.
don't expect me to explain why Moxxy's not complicated when you didn't explain why she is
i notice the tone of your posts is changing, i guess people with no arguments must fall back on something
That guy should discover text roleplaying habits.
If I wanna throw Janey into some lovin', I can make a bisexual profile for her. Hell, it would even work if you go ahead and assume that she said she doesn't like guys just to get them off her back.
And that's the other thing the argument boils down to as well. "We don't need gay people." "Well then we don't need this!"
I suppose making her bi would be a better choice, as long as it's kept subtle.
That's what they missed out. Hammy only offhandly mentions he has an ex-boyfriend and that's out.
There's no need to jump ship and go "LET'S PUT IT EVERYWHERE", because getting overexcited will result in some nasty backdrafts at times.
All these things being said, a Telltale kind of game actually is a PERFECT place for a character like Janey. These games are all about story, and characters themselves. Not the violence and such.
Am I the only one who don't find Janey annoying at all? Like, what the hell? She's just talking to us and nothing else, it's not like she's being horribly stupid or talking about herself 100% of time. But then again, some people find Angel annoying so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Here's the thing....If Janey was a heterosexual male there would have been no reaction. Hell, there would have been a nod and a wink from the old boys club. And that there, ladies and gentlemen, is a big goddamn problem. It tells that the old attitudes are still there, they've just been driven to hiding.
I think she's annoying. But not in a HATE way.
Tiny Tina is pretty irritating on my nerves, but I wouldn't want her to NOT be there.
Apparently, we don't need anything at all. Just some mute white staright character who shoot things in silence.
cuckold is a word that means a certain something, if you think cuckold is an insult you're basically saying being a cuck is bad
i didn't compare cuckolds to pedos, i just made a similitude, the point (which you missed) was that the characteristics of the writer can turn off people from reading their work.i could've used other things people hate, i used pedophilia bcause most people hate it, just switch pedophile with christian if it makes you unconfortable
Personally, the only thing I find odd about Tina is the way she sounds... you know, like she's at least twice her real age. I'm always confused by that, especially when I can't see her and can only hear.
could you post some examples? i remember some people hating Sera (dragon age inquisition), but that was because she was really childish
You mean why character who has manipulated vault hunters to her own ends, spread her influence through her family and personal relationship far and wide, including the entire catch-a-ride system, is a technical wizard and a lot older than she looks warrants a bit more than a 'slut'? And how she always seems to end up either completely escaping retaliation or ending up in a better position as a result of her schemes? Sorry, thought you played the games. My mistake.
I've seen you for what you are, sunshine. Thats all.
I personally think Angel is beautiful.
And no, I do not find Janey annoying. I don't even find Pickle annoying. Instead, I find Customs Claptrap irritating. Just him. That's all.
That's about it, actually.
Like the Space Marine from Doom, and his mighty shotgun.
pretty sure that was a troll or not serious
there's some sort of war going on in gaming communities (especially reddit), arguably spawned by the rise of people fucking with games
funnily enough, sjw/feminism made writing a popular gay/strong female character harder
And then there's the whole "Gamergate" thing, which is too complicated and too controversial to speak of.
Heck, it spawned several subreddits and the bloodiest comment war that Cracked.com ever saw.
a complicated character is a character with complicated personality traits, do you seriously find a manipulative slut complicated? because that's all you described.
Slight nitpick, you two:
It's "Moxxi."
So you're saying someone who is clearly highly intelligent, can and does maintain a completely separate public personality, has a soft spot for robots and AI's and is generally clearly not as simple as she wants everyone to think is still just a 'manipulative slut'.
Sure, sunshine.
You're not the only one to not find Janey annoying at all
!
I'll go even further as to say I also like the character, especially all the silly stories she writes
those always make me laugh.
I never found Angel annoying either.
Then again I also like Pickle a lot, and to my surprise there are tons of people who hate him... Never understood why.
In fact there are no character that annoys me, BUT there are those 2 parts I'd like to discuss with you people. No clue if they have been written by Burch and anyway it doesn't matter since I don't want to enter that controversy...
See in the Torgue campaign there are 2 lines that I found extremely irritating and stupid and thought they ruined the previous joke. Both are from Moxxi.
1) There is this one that almost ends up by "blah blah blah... third base" which was funny until 2 seconds after Moxxi adds "this is a sex thing" (or something like that). Why add this last part ? Is there anyone on earth that didn't get the first innuendo ? Why hammer it afterwards ? Are we gamers supposed to be idiots ? OR is there something else I didn't understand and that's supposed to be somehow more funny by adding the last part (english not being my native tongue, but still I knew about 3rd base) ?
2) When she talks about Motor Momma and there is the "noone but me eats my girlfriend" line which was funny until well, AGAIN, 2 seconds later we get the whole "puke in my mouth" / "sorry innuendo" / "defense mechanism" monologue that, for me, ruined it all... I would have loved to get just a "Hahem..." and then she goes on trying to pretend nothing happened or something like that, but really this whole overdone monologue right after that really really irritated me as well and I thought to myself this was extremely bad writing.
Or again, was there supposed to be something funny about it that I didn't get ?
I believe Anthony also wrote (at least) some of Jack's scenes because Dameon Clarke posted on Twitter that he recognised his writing during the recording for Catch A Ride (and he wouldn't have been shown the JackApedia entries as he didn't need to voice them).
It should also be noted how amazing each of the Jack scenes were...
This is all I'll say on the matter, because as soon as I saw that OP's argument boiled down to three keywords "cuckhold", "memes" and "SJWism" (which are the nonsensical buzzwords of Anthony's haters that are acrimoniously spurted without any semblance of a real argument as to why his writing is actually "bad") I realised that it wasn't worth anyone's time.
So OP, if you ever want to have a real discussion deconstructing Anthony's writing based on your own thoughts (AKA not just parroting the vitriol of the sad keyboard warriors who get some sort of pathetic thrill out of trolling Anthony), then I'll gladly engage.
EDIT: Just found out Anthony wrote the Athena eyeball joke - which, IMO was one of the funniest moments of the episode.
Yup, agreed.
From a writer's perspective, everything's been done before, leading to plenty of stuff being called cliche, which is apparently bad. When all that matters is how a story's told and the effect it has on you. And of course, everything is poorly written or 'lazily done' too. There's always someone that will say that, though it's subjective and it's not phrased as such.
I'll be honest, Pickle has a TERRIBLE cockney accent, and...well...Americans didn't like THAT all that much. I can understand. Also, they hate how he pinches money from your pockets every single time you talk to him, and apparently he's a small annoying creature, according to some.
Still like him, though. I got the E-Gun and it was so epic.
Well, the first one is...uh...Captain Obvious. Irritating.
The second one, in many player's opinions, isn't annoying, as we get to see beneath the sultry exterior that is Moxxi Hodunk. Then again, each to his own.
Hiding? Hiding? Pah.
Look at them neckbeards, so desperate to get a girl that they've degenerated into misogynic bastards who cling onto outdated ideas that only THEY use now.
Lol no way
!!! Ha ha ha ha : awesome !
Never noticed lol !
On the other hand, about Moxxi Hodunk don't we get other clues in the main game ?
Well no matter, it irritates me nonetheless and I still think it ruins the joke, so to speak.
Also I just remembered, there is that character that I find is overdone and there is a hammering on his personality that is irritating too : it's the old guy that is creepy on Captain Scarlett :
What it always felt to me about this character, and again, no matter who wrote about him, is that it really seems a personal vendetta from the person who wrote his lines and interactions. In other words I suspect he's a real world character from one of the writer's life and the writer takes revenge by "writing" him how he is, I also suspect the model looks like the real world person.
I'm not sure, it's just and odd feeling I had, it really seemed like a scenarist's real world revenge to me.
Sure some of the echos are funny, especially the snorring one, but when you look at the entire matter and how defined the character is on so many aspects for such a short appearance : it's suspicious. See what I mean ?