Who exactly is winning in your scenario? Innocent women and children certainly aren´t because they are being tortured, slaughtered and subjected to horrific experiments. The rest of the galaxy certainly isn´t because Pandora in it´s current state is as much of a threat to the rest of the galaxy as some remote tribal island is to the USA and who the fuck would wanna move to Pandora run by Jack? Not to mention that Jack only sees Pandora as a prototype for what he´s gonna do to the rest of the galaxy most likely including more civilized planets.
I wonder why exactly it would be more desirable to turn Pandora into a place run by a fascist dictator who makes Mao and Stalin look like Jesus by executing people for taking more than 10 seconds of a work break and complaining about laws. Is it because it is currently a place filled with death, torture and misery? Well that´s not gonna change when Jack takes over, as a matter of fact if he runs everything there won´t even be a single somewhat safe place on the planet unlike now.
That´s almost as if the only purpose for planets in the universe is to be transformed into a more desirable habitat for outsiders. Like looking at the middle east, seeing the chaos and then wanting to nuke the entire place and kill everyone eventhough nobody there would actually profit from it, simnply because it doesn´t fall into OUR category of desired place to live, as if we had any claim to the place. As a matter of fact it sounds like a typical american imperialist world view...
Yes, I'd be entirely fine with that. It's not Jack's fault that my hypothetical Pandoran parents were cunts that doomed me to a life on that… more hell hole. It's better in the long run. Those that choose to live there know the risks, those that were born there also know the risks but those risks are ALL they've ever known. Both groups breed and doom their kids to life there so their deaths are for the best.
Who exactly is winning in your scenario? Innocent women and children certainly aren´t because they are being tortured, slaughtered and subje… morected to horrific experiments. The rest of the galaxy certainly isn´t because Pandora in it´s current state is as much of a threat to the rest of the galaxy as some remote tribal island is to the USA and who the fuck would wanna move to Pandora run by Jack? Not to mention that Jack only sees Pandora as a prototype for what he´s gonna do to the rest of the galaxy most likely including more civilized planets.
I wonder why exactly it would be more desirable to turn Pandora into a place run by a fascist dictator who makes Mao and Stalin look like Jesus by executing people for taking more than 10 seconds of a work break and complaining about laws. Is it because it is currently a place filled with death, torture and misery? Well that´s not gonna change when Jack takes over, as a matter of fact if he runs ever… [view original content]
He's still considered one of the only "Good guys" on pandora. @WhistlerDarkly are you really comparing him to a serial killer? Roland tried his best to protect the innocent people of pandora he even broke up with Lilith to focus 100% on leading the raiders
I'm referring how being nice does not equal being a good person. And...Roland isn't real, he and Jack, and Lilith didn't kill anyone. They..they aren't real nor are their actions. When I question who is and isn't moral I am talking about the choices the writers made in writing a character.
He's still considered one of the only "Good guys" on pandora. @WhistlerDarkly are you really comparing him to a serial killer? Roland tried … morehis best to protect the innocent people of pandora he even broke up with Lilith to focus 100% on leading the raiders
I'm referring how being nice does not equal being a good person. And...Roland isn't real, he and Jack, and Lilith didn't kill anyone. They..… morethey aren't real nor are their actions. When I question who is and isn't moral I am talking about the choices the writers made in writing a character.
Pandora wins in my scenario. People there breed and subject their kids to that hell hole then they do the same and it goes on and on. Pandora has vaults, it's more than remote island tribe type of thing, it's an unstable terrorists with nuclear weapons type of thing. Things would be better under Jack, a dictatorship is preferable to pure anarchy (compare Iraq pre and post Saddam). Plus, Jack will eventually die one way or another, 70 years of oppression and death is better than an eternity of misery, turmoil, violence, anarachy, oppression, and death like what's happening now.
"Typical American imperialist"? Really? That is fucking stupid. Judging by that and your comparison of Jack to Stalin and Mao I'm going to assume (correctly) that your opinions aren't well thought out. On a side note, imperialism gets shit done.
Planets DO exist for outsiders to improve, same with land here on earth.
Who exactly is winning in your scenario? Innocent women and children certainly aren´t because they are being tortured, slaughtered and subje… morected to horrific experiments. The rest of the galaxy certainly isn´t because Pandora in it´s current state is as much of a threat to the rest of the galaxy as some remote tribal island is to the USA and who the fuck would wanna move to Pandora run by Jack? Not to mention that Jack only sees Pandora as a prototype for what he´s gonna do to the rest of the galaxy most likely including more civilized planets.
I wonder why exactly it would be more desirable to turn Pandora into a place run by a fascist dictator who makes Mao and Stalin look like Jesus by executing people for taking more than 10 seconds of a work break and complaining about laws. Is it because it is currently a place filled with death, torture and misery? Well that´s not gonna change when Jack takes over, as a matter of fact if he runs ever… [view original content]
The funny thing was that it was just the name I chose for my Telltale account so I could purchase the episode from their store - I never actually intended to use it in the forums but then when I discovered how awesome you guys all were I decided I'd start posting and realised I had to use the same name. It was quite serendipitous!
I do worry that I don't live up to my namesake, though... People say I'm too nice (I'm really not, though)!
The funny thing was that it was just the name I chose for my Telltale account so I could purchase the episode from their store - I never act… moreually intended to use it in the forums but then when I discovered how awesome you guys all were I decided I'd start posting and realised I had to use the same name. It was quite serendipitous!
I do worry that I don't live up to my namesake, though... People say I'm too nice (I'm really not, though)!
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Roland? More like...Noland!
Am I right guys?
...
....guys?
Gives you high five cause you earned it
I laughed. It was pretty good. Then I got sad. It was pretty depressing.
Take an upvote for putting me on a rollercoaster of emotion.
Nice person =/= Good person
And Ted Bundy use to volunteer and was a good neighbor...
Who exactly is winning in your scenario? Innocent women and children certainly aren´t because they are being tortured, slaughtered and subjected to horrific experiments. The rest of the galaxy certainly isn´t because Pandora in it´s current state is as much of a threat to the rest of the galaxy as some remote tribal island is to the USA and who the fuck would wanna move to Pandora run by Jack? Not to mention that Jack only sees Pandora as a prototype for what he´s gonna do to the rest of the galaxy most likely including more civilized planets.
I wonder why exactly it would be more desirable to turn Pandora into a place run by a fascist dictator who makes Mao and Stalin look like Jesus by executing people for taking more than 10 seconds of a work break and complaining about laws. Is it because it is currently a place filled with death, torture and misery? Well that´s not gonna change when Jack takes over, as a matter of fact if he runs everything there won´t even be a single somewhat safe place on the planet unlike now.
That´s almost as if the only purpose for planets in the universe is to be transformed into a more desirable habitat for outsiders. Like looking at the middle east, seeing the chaos and then wanting to nuke the entire place and kill everyone eventhough nobody there would actually profit from it, simnply because it doesn´t fall into OUR category of desired place to live, as if we had any claim to the place. As a matter of fact it sounds like a typical american imperialist world view...
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He's still considered one of the only "Good guys" on pandora. @WhistlerDarkly are you really comparing him to a serial killer? Roland tried his best to protect the innocent people of pandora he even broke up with Lilith to focus 100% on leading the raiders
So, on a scale of 1 to 10, how happy were you when you signed up for the forums and found out your name was available?
I'm referring how being nice does not equal being a good person. And...Roland isn't real, he and Jack, and Lilith didn't kill anyone. They..they aren't real nor are their actions. When I question who is and isn't moral I am talking about the choices the writers made in writing a character.
roland is real. we got milkshakes last week
i thought it was written Royland, i was like, wtf???
Pandora wins in my scenario. People there breed and subject their kids to that hell hole then they do the same and it goes on and on. Pandora has vaults, it's more than remote island tribe type of thing, it's an unstable terrorists with nuclear weapons type of thing. Things would be better under Jack, a dictatorship is preferable to pure anarchy (compare Iraq pre and post Saddam). Plus, Jack will eventually die one way or another, 70 years of oppression and death is better than an eternity of misery, turmoil, violence, anarachy, oppression, and death like what's happening now.
"Typical American imperialist"? Really? That is fucking stupid. Judging by that and your comparison of Jack to Stalin and Mao I'm going to assume (correctly) that your opinions aren't well thought out. On a side note, imperialism gets shit done.
Planets DO exist for outsiders to improve, same with land here on earth.
The funny thing was that it was just the name I chose for my Telltale account so I could purchase the episode from their store - I never actually intended to use it in the forums but then when I discovered how awesome you guys all were I decided I'd start posting and realised I had to use the same name. It was quite serendipitous!
I do worry that I don't live up to my namesake, though... People say I'm too nice (I'm really not, though)!
You've earned it!
Me too.
I have a punching bag for anger management. A PUNCHING BAG. Most people just take deep breaths or something. It does not work for me.
This is my favorite thread.
If Kenny can survive... maybe Roland can get lucky.
...
Someone photoshop Kenny's beard onto Roland.
What if it was Angel? I know she, like, died and stuff. But still.
Nice arm/shoulder joint, Jack.
Still hot, tho.
"Hey, I know this guy is dead and all, but what if, man?"
Ugh, I never noticed that before - somehow it's even more disturbing than the face.
But, like, handsomely disturbing...
Guys what if the Stranger is us?