K, forget about the dogs. The whole scene kinda lacked logic. Theon and Sansa jumped from a high castle wall, ran a lot of kilometres, went through an awfully cold river and got in a fight aaand... they don't have a single scratch on their body and feel well! Seriously?
P.S. The books mention that Moro was on the wedding.
Oh come on, are you really complaining about the dogs? An awesome scene and all you see in it is some tiny detail to nitpick about. Also, perhaps Khal Moro just wasn't at that wedding? Problem solved.
Pretty much agree about Dorne though...
As I mentioned previously on this thread, I also hated how the Dorne story turn out. I am siding with the Lannisters on that conflict.
But as for comparing the books, I am simply suggesting that you shouldn't compare the show to the books, so you can have a much more enjoyable viewing experience.
Honestly though that's what you should be doing since D&D made it clear that it was going to be very different. The show is it's own thi… moreng and even with it's flaws,it's still a well written and interesting one. It's not ''as good as the books'' but it's not supposed to be after all. I believe some book readers would have appreciated the show a bit more if they didn't read anything before watching it, you don't expect anything so you can't be disappointed by anything right ? It's quite sad because I see the effort and what makes Game of thrones a great show but I also can't completely blame any book readers to expect it to be even better.
What do you mean feel well? To me they looked pretty damn worn out and cold. They jumped from the wall and didn't get hurt because they landed on a drifted snow. Okay, that's probably the most questionable part, but it also happens in the books. After that, why would running, going through a cold river and watching others fight make "scratches" to their body? And as I said they were worn out and dirty after all that.
And it doesn't matter if it's mentioned in the books that Moro was there, was it mentioned in the show? No. Was he seen at the wedding in the show? No. So in show canon there is nothing wrong with Moro not recognizing Dany.
K, forget about the dogs. The whole scene kinda lacked logic. Theon and Sansa jumped from a high castle wall, ran a lot of kilometres, went … morethrough an awfully cold river and got in a fight aaand... they don't have a single scratch on their body and feel well! Seriously?
P.S. The books mention that Moro was on the wedding.
What do you mean feel well? To me they looked pretty damn worn out and cold. They jumped from the wall and didn't get hurt because they land… moreed on a drifted snow. Okay, that's probably the most questionable part, but it also happens in the books. After that, why would running, going through a cold river and watching others fight make "scratches" to their body? And as I said they were worn out and dirty after all that.
And it doesn't matter if it's mentioned in the books that Moro was there, was it mentioned in the show? No. Was he seen at the wedding in the show? No. So in show canon there is nothing wrong with Moro not recognizing Dany.
The thing I loved most in the episode was when Sansa and Ree... Theon crossed the water. Sansas like "huh huuuuh" And Theon's like "I've been through fucking worse, bitch. I hanged on a crusifix for goddamn days. Also, Melisandre, or whatever she became... UGH!
As someone who lives in a snowy country I can say that snow that rests against the wall most likely melts last, and it was established that not all snow was gone - just enough for the army to move forward. Also Myranda landed face first to a place where there was no snow, whilst we can assume that Sansa and Theon made a more controlled landing on the snow.
Daarios time should be coming soon also. I don't know why they did this to Jorah but I also feel like they'd let him survive with the Grey scale a lil longer. Like till season seven.
But I predict Daario falling in battle sometime this season. Maybe not to the khal but he will fall on his way to Dany
Also who says Melissandre is even brave enough to try it herself. Maybe we get our good ole pal Thoros of myr for a couple episodes and he saves Jon then goes away.
What if, and here's a huge plot twist: What if Jon never comes back fully but instead Bran has to Warg himself into Jons body until the War is Won against the White Walkers? They've shown us the potential and it'd honestly be pretty effin epic. The final episode ends with them winning on the battlefield or whatever, and as they go in to congratulate their leader in Snow, he just drops dead. I'd clap for that
My death predictions for this season (maybe spoilers but I really don't think so since everything is past the book at this point except for … more1 or 2 plots lol):
Melisandre (this one is the most likely in my opinion. I think she dies attempting to bring Jon back)
Jorah (I don't know anyway he can survive this season unless the dothraki or someone has a secret cure for greyscale)
Ramsay (I don't have any reason to think he will die, but I got a hunch. I hope Theon is the one to kill him)
Allister Thorne (No way he lives after what he has done)
Zombie Mountain (I'm assuming Cleganebowl happens and the mountain loses.)
They fucked up the Dorne storyline so much from the very beginning, but I didn't think it would have been THIS bad. House Martell does not stand for killing your own. Let's not forget the logic Ellaria and the Sand Snakes used: Oberyn died to bring justice for his dead sister so let's kill his only remaining sibling and nephew to bring justice for him! This was the major problem for me. Ellaria is majorly different in the books too. Just ugh, they screwed up what could have been an amazing, cunning, secretive plot as it is in the books for House Martell. I can't be the only one who thinks this.
Yeah we get it Dorne isnt the best on the show. Lets face it the storyline wasnt the best in the books either (and had a ton of new characters in it). Ellaria isnt the same character as the books, in the books she was barely a tertiary character, in the shows shes a combination of several book characters. Frankly im hoping this is a sign the dorne area will be receieving less attention. Im more interested in the greyjoys.
They fucked up the Dorne storyline so much from the very beginning, but I didn't think it would have been THIS bad. House Martell does not s… moretand for killing your own. Let's not forget the logic Ellaria and the Sand Snakes used: Oberyn died to bring justice for his dead sister so let's kill his only remaining sibling and nephew to bring justice for him! This was the major problem for me. Ellaria is majorly different in the books too. Just ugh, they screwed up what could have been an amazing, cunning, secretive plot as it is in the books for House Martell. I can't be the only one who thinks this.
Doubt it. What's to gain with him still being alive? We've had 4 seasons of him doing his duty. Anyway, the actor seemed to either dislike the show or question its success. Has the actor been seen on set during filming at all?
It occurs me that Stannis The Mannis is still MIA. I know his death is implied, but that's not confirmed which is kinda ironic coming from B… morerine given the events of Feast For Crows and Dance With Dragons.
Anyways, I don't think Stannis is dead yet.
I have a wild theory. Remember when Melisandra said that Ygritte line in season five. Well, we know Jon Snow is dead, so what if Melisandra conjures up his essence & glamours herself as Jon thus ending her own life. I don't know the timeline of Dondarrin's death and revival but this way the show is truthful with its Jon Snow is dead stance. And it gives more credence to that final scene.
Yeah, the Dorne stuff in the books wasnt very impressive to me either so I wasnt as mad as everyone else about what they did with it. The stuff with Doran's daughter seducing the knight who was supposed to be protecting Myrcella was intolerable, and the Sand Snakes did almost nothing but get locked away. Meh. I am interested in this war against the Llannisters though. Anything to mess them up, Im on board.
Yeah we get it Dorne isnt the best on the show. Lets face it the storyline wasnt the best in the books either (and had a ton of new characte… morers in it). Ellaria isnt the same character as the books, in the books she was barely a tertiary character, in the shows shes a combination of several book characters. Frankly im hoping this is a sign the dorne area will be receieving less attention. Im more interested in the greyjoys.
I've noticed one interesting thing. While most of the people on this thread seem to like the episode, 90% of Russian fandom are disappointed and actually compare it to shit.
Well I don't see any poiny either but that's Game of Thrones so anything could happen. If you don't see body burned or head chopped/smashed or knife right in the chest or cut throat there is still a chance that this person is alive. I can't actually remember anyone from show but a good example is Rodrik from the game. Untill episode 2 we were thinking he was dead and there was a huge chance to get him slaughtered by Boltons even if he was under the horse body. I like Brienne but I don't think she really killed him, maybe more like she left him to death. Well I wouldn't mind get him killed anyway.
Doubt it. What's to gain with him still being alive? We've had 4 seasons of him doing his duty. Anyway, the actor seemed to either dislike the show or question its success. Has the actor been seen on set during filming at all?
That's a really interesting theory with Bran, well that would be epic but still I would like more to see Jon back. It's all about sacrifice but anyone was thinking about Ghost? This direwolf loves him so that would be a good sacrifice for Jon. I would like to see him back because I want to know more about his mother. In season 1 Robert(i think) said something like 'This girl must've been special if Lord Stark fell in love with her'. Also when Melissandre first met Jon she said something about power that is in him, and now in episode 1 of season 6 she said she saw him fighting in Winterfell so they must bring Jon back adn give us even a little clue about his mother, it's fu*king Westeros SOMEONE must know something about his father romance! And there must be some great power in Jon Snow
Daarios time should be coming soon also. I don't know why they did this to Jorah but I also feel like they'd let him survive with the Grey s… morecale a lil longer. Like till season seven.
But I predict Daario falling in battle sometime this season. Maybe not to the khal but he will fall on his way to Dany
Also who says Melissandre is even brave enough to try it herself. Maybe we get our good ole pal Thoros of myr for a couple episodes and he saves Jon then goes away.
What if, and here's a huge plot twist: What if Jon never comes back fully but instead Bran has to Warg himself into Jons body until the War is Won against the White Walkers? They've shown us the potential and it'd honestly be pretty effin epic. The final episode ends with them winning on the battlefield or whatever, and as they go in to congratulate their leader in Snow, he just drops dead. I'd clap for that
They jumped from the wall and didn't get hurt because they landed on a drifted snow. Okay, that's probably the most questionable part, but it also happens in the books.
I'm pretty sure that in the books Jeyne and Theon just jump from the wall and get to Stannis' camp. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think nothing was said about the river.
After that, why would running, going through a cold river and watching others fight make "scratches" to their body?
"Scratches" was a figurative expression.
And it doesn't matter if it's mentioned in the books that Moro was there, was it mentioned in the show? No. Was he seen at the wedding in the show? No. So in show canon there is nothing wrong with Moro not recognizing Dany
So if Moro doesn't know Dany, why did he believe her so easily? Any whore could say that she was Khal Drogo's wife. The dialoge basically went like this:
What do you mean feel well? To me they looked pretty damn worn out and cold. They jumped from the wall and didn't get hurt because they land… moreed on a drifted snow. Okay, that's probably the most questionable part, but it also happens in the books. After that, why would running, going through a cold river and watching others fight make "scratches" to their body? And as I said they were worn out and dirty after all that.
And it doesn't matter if it's mentioned in the books that Moro was there, was it mentioned in the show? No. Was he seen at the wedding in the show? No. So in show canon there is nothing wrong with Moro not recognizing Dany.
I'm pretty sure that in the books Jeyne and Theon just jump from the wall and get to Stannis' camp. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think nothing was said about the river.
I was talking about the jumping from the castle wall. What's so dramatic about going through the river? It's showed after that they are feeling cold.
"Scratches" was a figurative expression.
So what was it that you meant? Because as I said they were worn out, feeling cold and dirty. If they survived the jump without injuring themselves, what else after that should have injured them? Or is it just the jump that bothers you?
So if Moro doesn't know Dany, why did he believe her so easily? Any whore could say that she was Khal Drogo's wife.
Perhaps Moro's previous knowledge is: "Khal Drogo was married to a beautiful blonde girl who burned him on a pyre when he died." Then his men find some random blonde girl AND then the blonde girl suddenly speaks Dothraki (and goes through all the titles) AND then says she was Drogo's wife AND then she says she was the one who burned him on a pyre. I'd say it makes sense for Moro to believe it at that point.
They jumped from the wall and didn't get hurt because they landed on a drifted snow. Okay, that's probably the most questionable part, but i… moret also happens in the books.
I'm pretty sure that in the books Jeyne and Theon just jump from the wall and get to Stannis' camp. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think nothing was said about the river.
After that, why would running, going through a cold river and watching others fight make "scratches" to their body?
"Scratches" was a figurative expression.
And it doesn't matter if it's mentioned in the books that Moro was there, was it mentioned in the show? No. Was he seen at the wedding in the show? No. So in show canon there is nothing wrong with Moro not recognizing Dany
So if Moro doesn't know Dany, why did he believe her so easily? Any whore could say that she was Khal Drogo's wife. The dialoge basically went like this:
Moro: im gonna rape you
Dothraki… [view original content]
So if Moro doesn't know Dany, why did he believe her so easily? Any whore could say that she was Khal Drogo's wife. The dialoge basically went like this:
Moro: im gonna rape you
Dothraki: yeah rape her
Dany: im khal drogos wife you idiot
Moro: k sorry ill believe you for no reason
Book fanboys seem to attack anything thats not in the books with massive scrutiny....
I mean he could have known that drogo has married some westerosi girl but drogo has been dead for years now, it wasnt until dany revealed it that he considered it.
They jumped from the wall and didn't get hurt because they landed on a drifted snow. Okay, that's probably the most questionable part, but i… moret also happens in the books.
I'm pretty sure that in the books Jeyne and Theon just jump from the wall and get to Stannis' camp. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think nothing was said about the river.
After that, why would running, going through a cold river and watching others fight make "scratches" to their body?
"Scratches" was a figurative expression.
And it doesn't matter if it's mentioned in the books that Moro was there, was it mentioned in the show? No. Was he seen at the wedding in the show? No. So in show canon there is nothing wrong with Moro not recognizing Dany
So if Moro doesn't know Dany, why did he believe her so easily? Any whore could say that she was Khal Drogo's wife. The dialoge basically went like this:
Moro: im gonna rape you
Dothraki… [view original content]
I'm not certain what you're refferring to.
Edit: Well I've always thought the traitor scene did make sense and that people overreacted to it. The Dorne scene didn't really lack sense either.
Well, at least the show had established Ellaria's hatred for Doran in season 5, as unreasonable as that hatred is. Also we saw last season with the poisoning of Myrcella that Ellaria is ready to take extreme actions to drive her stupid agenda.
In the game (especially with Royland imo) it is just so out of character, and just doesn't make any sense.
So I'd say Ellaria's betrayal makes a bit more sense, because at least with her we knew she has no loyalty or respect towards Doran.
yeah it is lol. i mean there is sometimes where my mind thinks too much as im typing and sometimes it confuses me as im trying to make a point or as i try to explain myself at times, you know? and english is my second language, but that shouldnt be an excuse since ive have lived here more than enough to write more properly and have a much expanded vocabulary.
also thats one of the reasons why i write like shit most of the time,i try to write with much better vocabulary to not sound so stupid so sometimes i get jumbled up and just, like i say, write horrible.
The Dorne regicide subplot is nonsensical. It was all supposedly done to avenge Oberyn.... by killing his brother, his nephew, and an innocent girl. The Red Viper would be appalled by that.
yeah it is lol. i mean there is sometimes where my mind thinks too much as im typing and sometimes it confuses me as im trying to make a poi… morent or as i try to explain myself at times, you know? and english is my second language, but that shouldnt be an excuse since ive have lived here more than enough to write more properly and have a much expanded vocabulary.
also thats one of the reasons why i write like shit most of the time,i try to write with much better vocabulary to not sound so stupid so sometimes i get jumbled up and just, like i say, write horrible.
Not to defend the storyline too much, because it's the one I dislike the most, but I'd say Ellaria's (and SS) motive can at this point be seen as just being hungry for power. I mean they talk about vengeance, but there was also the line about "weak men" never ruling Dorne. Meh, who knows what goes in their heads.
The Dorne regicide subplot is nonsensical. It was all supposedly done to avenge Oberyn.... by killing his brother, his nephew, and an innocent girl. The Red Viper would be appalled by that.
I was talking about the jumping from the castle wall. What's so dramatic about going through the river? It's showed after that they are feeling cold.
The dramatic thing is that wearing clothes soaked with icy cold water can actually lead to pneumonia (or something like that) which is letal.
If they survived the jump without injuring themselves, what else after that should have injured them? Or is it just the jump that bothers you?
The jump too. Miranda died while falling from the some height but Theon and Sansa didn't even limp... Though, of course, there's still a big question to George. But at least in the books there was a big pile of snow under the wall while in the show there's barely any snow.
Perhaps Moro's previous knowledge is: "Khal Drogo was married to a beautiful blonde girl who burned him on a pyre when he died." Then his men find some random blonde girl AND then the blonde girl suddenly speaks Dothraki (and goes through all the titles) AND then says she was Drogo's wife AND then she says she was the one who burned him on a pyre. I'd say it makes sense for Moro to believe it at that point.
There's a problem with the "perhaps" word but I got your point. Perhaps you're right.
I'm pretty sure that in the books Jeyne and Theon just jump from the wall and get to Stannis' camp. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think not… morehing was said about the river.
I was talking about the jumping from the castle wall. What's so dramatic about going through the river? It's showed after that they are feeling cold.
"Scratches" was a figurative expression.
So what was it that you meant? Because as I said they were worn out, feeling cold and dirty. If they survived the jump without injuring themselves, what else after that should have injured them? Or is it just the jump that bothers you?
So if Moro doesn't know Dany, why did he believe her so easily? Any whore could say that she was Khal Drogo's wife.
Perhaps Moro's previous knowledge is: "Khal Drogo was married to a beautiful blonde girl who burned him on a pyre when he died." Then his men find some random blonde girl AND then the blonde girl suddenly s… [view original content]
Book fanboys seem to attack anything thats not in the books with massive scrutiny...
Yeup, massive scrutiny is my habit. Not sure if good or bad though :P
I mean he could have known that drogo has married some westerosi girl but drogo has been dead for years now, it wasnt until dany revealed it that he considered it.
Sorry if I seem dumb or my English is bad but I didn't understand what you said. You're trying to tell me that Moro didn't know that Drogo died and Dany revealed it? But how is this related to the topic? If Dany knows that Drogo's dead, it doesn't mean that she was his wife.
So if Moro doesn't know Dany, why did he believe her so easily? Any whore could say that she was Khal Drogo's wife. The dialoge basically we… morent like this:
Moro: im gonna rape you
Dothraki: yeah rape her
Dany: im khal drogos wife you idiot
Moro: k sorry ill believe you for no reason
Book fanboys seem to attack anything thats not in the books with massive scrutiny....
I mean he could have known that drogo has married some westerosi girl but drogo has been dead for years now, it wasnt until dany revealed it that he considered it.
Traitor scene from a Nest of Vipers made more sense, specially the Duncan one.
I don't get the purpose of killing him. Do they plan to overthrow him? We're talking about Ellaria and her bastards crew. None of them are legitimized Martells and they (the SS) won't be logically accepted by any lords of Dorne. I mean, why would they care for the death of Oberyn and not for Doran's one?
Here is a poster of everyone's favorite character xD
On a serious note, these Beautiful Death -posters by Robert Ball are amazing, I'm so happy he keeps doing them And there were basically two deaths to choose from on this ep: Doran and Trystane - so at least they took the better one from those. (there could be hint to Trystane too somewhere in there though, these tend to have easter eggs).
Here is a poster of everyone's favorite character xD
On a serious note, these Beautiful Death -posters by Robert Ball are amazing, I'm so… more happy he keeps doing them And there were basically two deaths to choose from on this ep: Doran and Trystane - so at least they took the better one from those. (there could be hint to Trystane too somewhere in there though, these tend to have easter eggs).
edit: fixed the size
Book fanboys seem to attack anything thats not in the books with massive scrutiny...
Yeup, massive scrutiny is my habit. Not sure if… more good or bad though :P
I mean he could have known that drogo has married some westerosi girl but drogo has been dead for years now, it wasnt until dany revealed it that he considered it.
Sorry if I seem dumb or my English is bad but I didn't understand what you said. You're trying to tell me that Moro didn't know that Drogo died and Dany revealed it? But how is this related to the topic? If Dany knows that Drogo's dead, it doesn't mean that she was his wife.
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K, forget about the dogs. The whole scene kinda lacked logic. Theon and Sansa jumped from a high castle wall, ran a lot of kilometres, went through an awfully cold river and got in a fight aaand... they don't have a single scratch on their body and feel well! Seriously?
P.S. The books mention that Moro was on the wedding.
It's not an excuse for an awful escalation of the Dornish storyline. That was the greatest disappointment of all GOT.
As I mentioned previously on this thread, I also hated how the Dorne story turn out. I am siding with the Lannisters on that conflict.
But as for comparing the books, I am simply suggesting that you shouldn't compare the show to the books, so you can have a much more enjoyable viewing experience.
I usually don't compare the show to the books. I personally like that we are entering a point in the story where I don't know what is going to happen.
What do you mean feel well? To me they looked pretty damn worn out and cold. They jumped from the wall and didn't get hurt because they landed on a drifted snow. Okay, that's probably the most questionable part, but it also happens in the books. After that, why would running, going through a cold river and watching others fight make "scratches" to their body? And as I said they were worn out and dirty after all that.
And it doesn't matter if it's mentioned in the books that Moro was there, was it mentioned in the show? No. Was he seen at the wedding in the show? No. So in show canon there is nothing wrong with Moro not recognizing Dany.
Melisandre melted the snow though and Ramsay's mistress fell from the same high.
The thing I loved most in the episode was when Sansa and Ree... Theon crossed the water. Sansas like "huh huuuuh" And Theon's like "I've been through fucking worse, bitch. I hanged on a crusifix for goddamn days. Also, Melisandre, or whatever she became... UGH!
He'd probably say
Gendry: Doesn't matter, had sex
As someone who lives in a snowy country I can say that snow that rests against the wall most likely melts last, and it was established that not all snow was gone - just enough for the army to move forward. Also Myranda landed face first to a place where there was no snow, whilst we can assume that Sansa and Theon made a more controlled landing on the snow.
Daarios time should be coming soon also. I don't know why they did this to Jorah but I also feel like they'd let him survive with the Grey scale a lil longer. Like till season seven.
But I predict Daario falling in battle sometime this season. Maybe not to the khal but he will fall on his way to Dany
Also who says Melissandre is even brave enough to try it herself. Maybe we get our good ole pal Thoros of myr for a couple episodes and he saves Jon then goes away.
What if, and here's a huge plot twist: What if Jon never comes back fully but instead Bran has to Warg himself into Jons body until the War is Won against the White Walkers? They've shown us the potential and it'd honestly be pretty effin epic. The final episode ends with them winning on the battlefield or whatever, and as they go in to congratulate their leader in Snow, he just drops dead. I'd clap for that
They fucked up the Dorne storyline so much from the very beginning, but I didn't think it would have been THIS bad. House Martell does not stand for killing your own. Let's not forget the logic Ellaria and the Sand Snakes used: Oberyn died to bring justice for his dead sister so let's kill his only remaining sibling and nephew to bring justice for him! This was the major problem for me. Ellaria is majorly different in the books too. Just ugh, they screwed up what could have been an amazing, cunning, secretive plot as it is in the books for House Martell. I can't be the only one who thinks this.
Yeah we get it Dorne isnt the best on the show. Lets face it the storyline wasnt the best in the books either (and had a ton of new characters in it). Ellaria isnt the same character as the books, in the books she was barely a tertiary character, in the shows shes a combination of several book characters. Frankly im hoping this is a sign the dorne area will be receieving less attention. Im more interested in the greyjoys.
Ive never had any problems, l love it.
Doubt it. What's to gain with him still being alive? We've had 4 seasons of him doing his duty. Anyway, the actor seemed to either dislike the show or question its success. Has the actor been seen on set during filming at all?
I have a wild theory. Remember when Melisandra said that Ygritte line in season five. Well, we know Jon Snow is dead, so what if Melisandra conjures up his essence & glamours herself as Jon thus ending her own life. I don't know the timeline of Dondarrin's death and revival but this way the show is truthful with its Jon Snow is dead stance. And it gives more credence to that final scene.
Haha, I dont know. He was pretty traumatized by the experience already.
Yeah, the Dorne stuff in the books wasnt very impressive to me either so I wasnt as mad as everyone else about what they did with it. The stuff with Doran's daughter seducing the knight who was supposed to be protecting Myrcella was intolerable, and the Sand Snakes did almost nothing but get locked away. Meh. I am interested in this war against the Llannisters though. Anything to mess them up, Im on board.
Im still too mad at her over Shireen to feel any sympathy.
I've noticed one interesting thing. While most of the people on this thread seem to like the episode, 90% of Russian fandom are disappointed and actually compare it to shit.
I wonder why...
Well I don't see any poiny either but that's Game of Thrones so anything could happen. If you don't see body burned or head chopped/smashed or knife right in the chest or cut throat there is still a chance that this person is alive. I can't actually remember anyone from show but a good example is Rodrik from the game. Untill episode 2 we were thinking he was dead and there was a huge chance to get him slaughtered by Boltons even if he was under the horse body. I like Brienne but I don't think she really killed him, maybe more like she left him to death. Well I wouldn't mind get him killed anyway.
That's a really interesting theory with Bran, well that would be epic but still I would like more to see Jon back. It's all about sacrifice but anyone was thinking about Ghost? This direwolf loves him so that would be a good sacrifice for Jon. I would like to see him back because I want to know more about his mother. In season 1 Robert(i think) said something like 'This girl must've been special if Lord Stark fell in love with her'. Also when Melissandre first met Jon she said something about power that is in him, and now in episode 1 of season 6 she said she saw him fighting in Winterfell so they must bring Jon back adn give us even a little clue about his mother, it's fu*king Westeros SOMEONE must know something about his father romance! And there must be some great power in Jon Snow
I'm pretty sure that in the books Jeyne and Theon just jump from the wall and get to Stannis' camp. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think nothing was said about the river.
"Scratches" was a figurative expression.
So if Moro doesn't know Dany, why did he believe her so easily? Any whore could say that she was Khal Drogo's wife. The dialoge basically went like this:
I was talking about the jumping from the castle wall. What's so dramatic about going through the river? It's showed after that they are feeling cold.
So what was it that you meant? Because as I said they were worn out, feeling cold and dirty. If they survived the jump without injuring themselves, what else after that should have injured them? Or is it just the jump that bothers you?
Perhaps Moro's previous knowledge is: "Khal Drogo was married to a beautiful blonde girl who burned him on a pyre when he died." Then his men find some random blonde girl AND then the blonde girl suddenly speaks Dothraki (and goes through all the titles) AND then says she was Drogo's wife AND then she says she was the one who burned him on a pyre. I'd say it makes sense for Moro to believe it at that point.
Book fanboys seem to attack anything thats not in the books with massive scrutiny....
I mean he could have known that drogo has married some westerosi girl but drogo has been dead for years now, it wasnt until dany revealed it that he considered it.
Just for fun, which scene made more sense?
The traitor scene from A Nest of Vipers (The Game) or the traitor scene from The Red Woman?
I'm not certain what you're refferring to.
Edit: Well I've always thought the traitor scene did make sense and that people overreacted to it. The Dorne scene didn't really lack sense either.
I think he's referring to the Dorne scene.
Well, at least the show had established Ellaria's hatred for Doran in season 5, as unreasonable as that hatred is. Also we saw last season with the poisoning of Myrcella that Ellaria is ready to take extreme actions to drive her stupid agenda.
In the game (especially with Royland imo) it is just so out of character, and just doesn't make any sense.
So I'd say Ellaria's betrayal makes a bit more sense, because at least with her we knew she has no loyalty or respect towards Doran.
yeah it is lol. i mean there is sometimes where my mind thinks too much as im typing and sometimes it confuses me as im trying to make a point or as i try to explain myself at times, you know? and english is my second language, but that shouldnt be an excuse since ive have lived here more than enough to write more properly and have a much expanded vocabulary.
also thats one of the reasons why i write like shit most of the time,i try to write with much better vocabulary to not sound so stupid so sometimes i get jumbled up and just, like i say, write horrible.
The Dorne regicide subplot is nonsensical. It was all supposedly done to avenge Oberyn.... by killing his brother, his nephew, and an innocent girl. The Red Viper would be appalled by that.
Well, it's much better than some others on these forums.
Not to defend the storyline too much, because it's the one I dislike the most, but I'd say Ellaria's (and SS) motive can at this point be seen as just being hungry for power. I mean they talk about vengeance, but there was also the line about "weak men" never ruling Dorne. Meh, who knows what goes in their heads.
The dramatic thing is that wearing clothes soaked with icy cold water can actually lead to pneumonia (or something like that) which is letal.
The jump too. Miranda died while falling from the some height but Theon and Sansa didn't even limp... Though, of course, there's still a big question to George. But at least in the books there was a big pile of snow under the wall while in the show there's barely any snow.
There's a problem with the "perhaps" word but I got your point. Perhaps you're right.
Yeup, massive scrutiny is my habit. Not sure if good or bad though :P
Sorry if I seem dumb or my English is bad but I didn't understand what you said. You're trying to tell me that Moro didn't know that Drogo died and Dany revealed it? But how is this related to the topic? If Dany knows that Drogo's dead, it doesn't mean that she was his wife.
I didn't cringe. Most of us are gonna look like that when we are old.
Traitor scene from a Nest of Vipers made more sense, specially the Duncan one.
I don't get the purpose of killing him. Do they plan to overthrow him? We're talking about Ellaria and her bastards crew. None of them are legitimized Martells and they (the SS) won't be logically accepted by any lords of Dorne. I mean, why would they care for the death of Oberyn and not for Doran's one?
If someone has a clue about it..
Here is a poster of everyone's favorite character xD
On a serious note, these Beautiful Death -posters by Robert Ball are amazing, I'm so happy he keeps doing them
And there were basically two deaths to choose from on this ep: Doran and Trystane - so at least they took the better one from those. (there could be hint to Trystane too somewhere in there though, these tend to have easter eggs).
edit: fixed the size
I dont mind her as much as the sand snakes, At least she doesnt get cringey lines
No I mean he knew drogo died but that was now years ago. He likely knew that drogo married some westerosi girl with white hair.
He just didnt consider this as drogo has been dead for so long
Yeah, I agree she is better than any of the Sand Snakes, but still a bit two dimensional.