If ISIS ever gets classified by the UN as a country, my vote would go to it. Otherwise, I don't think there's a country on earth that is qualified to be "hell".
If ISIS ever gets classified by the UN as a country, my vote would go to it. Otherwise, I don't think there's a country on earth that is qualified to be "hell".
Israel for mutliple reasons that i won't put,
I was having a nice evening , and i don't want to spoil it
Perhaps 10 years ago , i woul… mored've also said USA , but i really like Barrack Obama , he's awesome , i really do hope it stays that way and that the democratic party wins again
But yeah, hating Turkey is a pretty popular position. And yet, we see fit to treat them as allies. If your allies would rather have ISIS on their border than Rojava, it's time to do some soul searching about whether they're really worth coddling.
Wait, what was the first time?
But yeah, hating Turkey is a pretty popular position. And yet, we see fit to treat them as allies. If yo… moreur allies would rather have ISIS on their border than Rojava, it's time to do some soul searching about whether they're really worth coddling.
Here's my list in more detail.
* North Korea: Dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. State religion. Racial purity laws. It basically comb… moreines the worse aspects of Stalinism and Fascism.
* Saudi Arabia: The perfect mix of aristocratic decadence, Hanbali barbarism and rabid Social Conservatism.
* Iran: Like Saudi Arabia, but more militant and less prosperous.
* Zimbabwe, Eritrea, Equitorial Guinea, Swaziland: stereptypical, tinpot African dictatorships.
* Much of Central America: rampant crime, gangs, ravaged by free trade, murder of labor activists (good job, America).
* Venezuela : In deep shit, now that the oil price has dropped. Says a great deal about the shortfalls of a command economy.
* Brazil : Rampant crime, cops who think they're death squads, crushing income inequality. And allegedly, a nice helping of racism on top of that.
* Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Central African Republic : Warzones
* Democratic Republic of The Congo : Do they even have a state anymore?
I'm curious, what are your positions on the Trans-Pacific Partnership?
Pure neoliberal horseshit, we've seen all of this before with NAFTA. TPP will send jobs overseas and compromise the sovereignty or developing nations. I've lost a great deal of respect for President Obama over this.
Venezuela also has a ton of crime, one person is murdered in every 21 minutes.
Forgot about that.
I would add Iraq to that if we're counting by that.
Maybe the third of it that's under ISIS control. But the entire country isn't a warzone. Same reason why I didn't put Ukraine on there.
ravaged by free trade
I'm curious, what are your positions on the Trans-Pacific Partnership?
Venezuela : In deep shit, now tha… moret the oil price has dropped. Says a great deal about the shortfalls of a command economy.
Venezuela also has a ton of crime, one person is murdered in every 21 minutes. Brazil i
Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Central African Republic : Warzones
I would add Iraq to that if we're counting by that.
We agreed on quite a bit in the political thread IIRC. Like avoiding foreign wars and torture. What would you consider yourself politically, these days? I remember you were something of a Libertarian before, but now you support Trump. I'm still pinballing around the libertarian left, though I'm starting to become weary of mainstream leftism.
We agreed on quite a bit in the political thread IIRC. Like avoiding foreign wars and torture.
You're right, we did. We shared some common opinions of the like, but mostly we disagreed on everything else though.
What would you consider yourself politically, these days? I remember you were something of a Libertarian before
I'm about the same. I believe in individual liberty and the rule of law established by the Constitution. The problem is that the position simply isn't viable in a two party system that has no true respect for either, so sometimes you are forced to choose what you consider the lesser of two evils.
but now you support Trump.
I loosely support Trump. I don't agree with everything he says, but he, unlike the other candidates, he tends to be more agreeable to me. He wants to eliminate NAFTA, he doesn't support TPP, he doesn't support the assault weapon ban, he proposes stricter legal immigration requirements, and tax reforms. I do like that Bernie doesn't support TPP, unlike Clintholio who needs TPP for her bankroll, but I have a hard time getting behind him for much else. I also acknowledge that Trump, while remaining in the same ballpark, has shifted on his positions. I think this has to do with his inexperience in the political world. I suspect we'll see him consolidating his points as time goes on. With that in mind, Gary Johnson is running Libertarian again, and although he has no chance in our two part system, I may vote for him again out of principle.
I'm still pinballing around the libertarian left, though I'm starting to become weary of mainstream leftism.
Libertarian left always seems a bit contradictory to me, considering that libertarianism is generally associated with the individual, whereas the left is generally associated with the community/society.
We agreed on quite a bit in the political thread IIRC. Like avoiding foreign wars and torture. What would you consider yourself politicall… morey, these days? I remember you were something of a Libertarian before, but now you support Trump. I'm still pinballing around the libertarian left, though I'm starting to become weary of mainstream leftism.
Libertarian left always seems a bit contradictory to me, considering that libertarianism is generally associated with the individual, whereas the left is generally associated with the community/society.
Left-Libertarianism is both individualistic and (sometimes) collectivist. The main difference between Left-Libertarianism and Right Libertarianism is that the right wingers believe liberty and equality are diametrically opposed, while Left-Libertarians believe they go hand in hand. There's no liberty in being forced to choose between selling your labor to the bourgeoisie and suffering. Inversely, we see worker control of the means of production (workplace democracy) as the pinnacle of both liberty and equality.
Also the right stole "libertarian" from us. The first Libertarians were anti-capitalist French anarchists.
We agreed on quite a bit in the political thread IIRC. Like avoiding foreign wars and torture.
You're right, we did. We shared some … morecommon opinions of the like, but mostly we disagreed on everything else though.
What would you consider yourself politically, these days? I remember you were something of a Libertarian before
I'm about the same. I believe in individual liberty and the rule of law established by the Constitution. The problem is that the position simply isn't viable in a two party system that has no true respect for either, so sometimes you are forced to choose what you consider the lesser of two evils.
but now you support Trump.
I loosely support Trump. I don't agree with everything he says, but he, unlike the other candidates, he tends to be more agreeable to me. He wants to eliminate NAFTA, he doesn't support TPP, he doesn't support the assault weapon ban, he proposes stricter legal immigratio… [view original content]
It would not surprise me. Hell, it is even illegal to take a photo of any image, painting or statue of their leaders without including the entire thing.
Saudi Arabia
Hear this. we went to Saudi Arabia (i don't know why). we were in shopping area. we just stop and touch a shirt. the Seller said you have to buy it. you touched it. we said" we were just looking". he literally followed us and maked us to buy it. i mean what the hell. Saudi arabia is the worse, trust me. they are our neighbor so i know them. (i'm from iran)
I'd say I find the clerical totalitarianism of the Saudis and their overall policies, whether internal or external, to be abhorrent. Don't get me wrong, NK is hardly better, but I find Saudi Arabia to be worse, not in the least because of their terrorist funding and horrible human rights record (which isn't that better in NK, but still).
Yeah it boils down to Teocratic dictatorship vs Communis dictatorship. BUt at least the latter opress everyone equally not just one gender and generally keeps to itself...
I'd say I find the clerical totalitarianism of the Saudis and their overall policies, whether internal or external, to be abhorrent. Don't g… moreet me wrong, NK is hardly better, but I find Saudi Arabia to be worse, not in the least because of their terrorist funding and horrible human rights record (which isn't that better in NK, but still).
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If ISIS ever gets classified by the UN as a country, my vote would go to it. Otherwise, I don't think there's a country on earth that is qualified to be "hell".
North Korea?
Oh... hard for me to say Israel even if I want to. When it comes to major nations. China is likely #1.
Examples why I think so.
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Not sure if I'd call it one of the worst, but Turkey is given nowhere near the amount of shit they deserve. Fuck Erdogan.
I've heard that if you obey the government and don't try to oppose them by any means, you can still have quite a normal life, so it's still not hell.
We've found something we agree on. This is like the second time!
Saudi Arabia- North Korea with oil
Venezuela- Seems to be going to hell at the moment
Zimbabwe-Similar to Venezuela
Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria- The very definition of "failed states". It's almost like the USA invading countries is a bad idea.
Unless you accidentally spill your drink on a newspaper photo of Kim Jong Un and are sent to a gulag.
Seriously?
Doing something like that, whether accidental or not would get you and possibly your whole family in serious shit.
Wait, what was the first time?
But yeah, hating Turkey is a pretty popular position. And yet, we see fit to treat them as allies. If your allies would rather have ISIS on their border than Rojava, it's time to do some soul searching about whether they're really worth coddling.
Here's my list in more detail.
North Korea: Dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. State religion. Racial purity laws. It basically combines the worse aspects of Stalinism and Fascism.
Saudi Arabia: The perfect mix of aristocratic decadence, Hanbali barbarism and rabid Social Conservatism.
Iran: Like Saudi Arabia, but more militant and less prosperous.
Zimbabwe, Eritrea, Equitorial Guinea, Swaziland: stereptypical, tinpot African dictatorships.
Much of Central America: rampant crime, gangs, ravaged by free trade, murder of labor activists (good job, America).
Venezuela : In deep shit, now that the oil price has dropped. Says a great deal about the shortfalls of a command economy.
Brazil : Rampant crime, cops who think they're death squads, crushing income inequality. And allegedly, a nice helping of racism on top of that.
Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Central African Republic : Warzones
Democratic Republic of The Congo : Do they even have a state anymore?
It was so long ago I don't remember what it actually was.
I have and urge to pinch his cheeks
I'm curious, what are your positions on the Trans-Pacific Partnership?
Venezuela also has a ton of crime, one person is murdered in every 21 minutes. Brazil i
I would add Iraq to that if we're counting by that.
Guys, you forget Somalia. A real shithole still.
Pure neoliberal horseshit, we've seen all of this before with NAFTA. TPP will send jobs overseas and compromise the sovereignty or developing nations. I've lost a great deal of respect for President Obama over this.
Forgot about that.
Maybe the third of it that's under ISIS control. But the entire country isn't a warzone. Same reason why I didn't put Ukraine on there.
We agreed on quite a bit in the political thread IIRC. Like avoiding foreign wars and torture. What would you consider yourself politically, these days? I remember you were something of a Libertarian before, but now you support Trump. I'm still pinballing around the libertarian left, though I'm starting to become weary of mainstream leftism.
You're right, we did. We shared some common opinions of the like, but mostly we disagreed on everything else though.
I'm about the same. I believe in individual liberty and the rule of law established by the Constitution. The problem is that the position simply isn't viable in a two party system that has no true respect for either, so sometimes you are forced to choose what you consider the lesser of two evils.
I loosely support Trump. I don't agree with everything he says, but he, unlike the other candidates, he tends to be more agreeable to me. He wants to eliminate NAFTA, he doesn't support TPP, he doesn't support the assault weapon ban, he proposes stricter legal immigration requirements, and tax reforms. I do like that Bernie doesn't support TPP, unlike Clintholio who needs TPP for her bankroll, but I have a hard time getting behind him for much else. I also acknowledge that Trump, while remaining in the same ballpark, has shifted on his positions. I think this has to do with his inexperience in the political world. I suspect we'll see him consolidating his points as time goes on. With that in mind, Gary Johnson is running Libertarian again, and although he has no chance in our two part system, I may vote for him again out of principle.
Libertarian left always seems a bit contradictory to me, considering that libertarianism is generally associated with the individual, whereas the left is generally associated with the community/society.
Wait, Daesh is in Somalia too?
I mean, I'm not that surprised, but I just didn't know before.
Left-Libertarianism is both individualistic and (sometimes) collectivist. The main difference between Left-Libertarianism and Right Libertarianism is that the right wingers believe liberty and equality are diametrically opposed, while Left-Libertarians believe they go hand in hand. There's no liberty in being forced to choose between selling your labor to the bourgeoisie and suffering. Inversely, we see worker control of the means of production (workplace democracy) as the pinnacle of both liberty and equality.
Also the right stole "libertarian" from us. The first Libertarians were anti-capitalist French anarchists.
Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
Perhaps these countries aren't so bad, but their rulers are complete shit.
It would not surprise me. Hell, it is even illegal to take a photo of any image, painting or statue of their leaders without including the entire thing.
Weren't reported cases of cannibalism though?
Al-Shabaab is still there (though heavily reduced), they've fallen under the Daesh banner IIRC.
Chubbadelle!!
Daesh is everywhere now, they are like pests that need to be exterminated.
Damn. Saying America is the worst because of those two? I mean, they are bad, but not enough to make the country the absolute worst.
Well, no one's doing anything about it. So, FML.
Wow. Must be hard to insult someone in the land of Snooki.
Dat bump
Every where we go. we make a mess so there's no point living earth
Tell me about it (i'm from iran)
Saudi Arabia
Hear this. we went to Saudi Arabia (i don't know why). we were in shopping area. we just stop and touch a shirt. the Seller said you have to buy it. you touched it. we said" we were just looking". he literally followed us and maked us to buy it. i mean what the hell. Saudi arabia is the worse, trust me. they are our neighbor so i know them. (i'm from iran)
Well let's see...
N.Korea and Saudi Arabia takes the top spot since I can't decide which is shittier
I'd go with the Saudis, personally.
Why? Kim's a pretty tough competition?
I'd say I find the clerical totalitarianism of the Saudis and their overall policies, whether internal or external, to be abhorrent. Don't get me wrong, NK is hardly better, but I find Saudi Arabia to be worse, not in the least because of their terrorist funding and horrible human rights record (which isn't that better in NK, but still).
Yeah it boils down to Teocratic dictatorship vs Communis dictatorship. BUt at least the latter opress everyone equally not just one gender and generally keeps to itself...