I personally find it amusing. It sounds like Britain is being a sower grape because it no longer holds as much political power over the EU it used to have, and no longer can twist other EU states to it's will and now the EU is doing it's will to Britain. lol This happened in the United States over 150 years ago when the Southern States lost majority political control of the USA, caused civil war. Not saying that is what this will lead to. But it reminds me of when France became angry when the EU switched over to English as it's Universal form of communication with each other. It is like how Germany is now the central primary political/economic power in Europe, something France/Britain fought two world wars to prevent, and it happened anyways.
Okay, I don't understand or more clearly comprehend why people want to break down good systems and call it progress.
It kind of makes me … moreeven more fascinated of what's going to happen if the decision makers accept the results.
I don't want to speculate too much what those who voted leave has in common (in general.) Are old people wanting to leave EU due nostalgia of "better days" when they didn't "need" EU or something. Or are they young?
Anyway, this is a typical problem with democracy. Many of us end up voting things without really understanding them and I admit that I don't know enough about the subject make a call if a decision to leave EU was right or wrong.
Just to point out, I don't live in Britain, nor I'm British. Also more than likely, I don't know what I'm talking about so take it as pinch of salt.
Yes, the pound has devalued, but this was to be expected. It has grown since this morning and the markets will continue to stabilise over the coming weeks.
..I'm sorry, but nope. The pound dropped dramatically this morning, this is surely a sign of the hell hole we have dug ourselves into. Trading will be harder as Britain will be less relevant so I doubt we're a better "source of income" in the following years to come. Many companies have shut down and moved abroad and outsourced jobs where it is cheaper. Prices will surge, jobs will drop, unemployment will rise, and all hell will break loose. There will be many holidays being booked, holiday makers will have to fork out money to pay for visas and tourists will have to do the same. Tourism industry will be so impacted as flights will become more expensive. And why wouldn't a country kick us out? Britain is losing its relevance, nobody will want to trade with us.
Oh, and Scotland voted to remain(62%) and plan on a second referrendrum so you're quite wrong about them saying "no" again.
Let me sip my tea real quick as you don't realise that all the racists within Britain voted leave. Leaving was a mistake, and you'll soon find out why.
3 million are out of jobs? Is that the current unemployment rate, or some figure you've regurgitated by the failed Remain side?
Yes, the … morepound has devalued, but this was to be expected. It has grown since this morning and the markets will continue to stabilise over the coming weeks.
And not a single Brit abroad has their residency at the risk, international states they can't be deported, furthermore, why would a country want to kick out a source of income?
We will still pursue the single market, we buy more from them anyway, so they'd lose more in the event of tariffs or no trade.
Obama was just safeguarding American interests, read up on TTIP, it might scare you. Besides, Trump is all for Brexit and Clinton seemed to respect our decisions, they're who matter.
Scotland had the option to leave the UK and join the EU two years ago, they said no. They'll say no again. NI is still split, it had a much more even result than Scotland… [view original content]
I am deeply saddened by the outcome of this referrendrum. Leaving the EU will make it merely impossible for myself as well as many others to pay rent, university, and other basic necessities as prices will surge in the coming years. Say what you want, but this is a terrible decision made by a vast majority of elders who care more about immigrants than their grandchildren. The thing is, almost all all won't even live to see it's consequences! Thanks Britain! It was nice knowing you.
Will Scotland leave? As I've mentioned in a reply before, Scotland was offered the same referendum just 2 years ago. Leave the UK and join t… morehe EU. They said NO. Not much has changed in 2 years, apart from the SNP losing it's majority. As for Northern Ireland, there will be calls, but it is far too split to call it for them leaving. All these plans are to be expected in the first week of freedom.
And it's interesting you ask me that. 4 countries, England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, 2 of them voted Remain, 2 voted Leave, yet presumably all of them will leave. So they've been overruled. Now you know what it's like when Britain gets overruled by 27 other countries, a super-state of that size and varying different economies just doesn't work. Britain had dwindling influence within the EU, we've always been an outsider and they've never really respected us, hence lackluster reforms.
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I haven't got a dog in the fight. I didn't vote. I'm not British.
But all these drama queens who keep droning on about Britain exploding into a thousand pieces without the E.U need a serious reality check. The nation has been around for a long time. it's been a powerful force for a long time. I don't think its union membership is going to change that.
Of course the market is going to dip. It's going through a massive transition. However, anyone who truly think's it isn't going to correct itself and come out okay, has a disturbingly low opinion of their own country. It's a little bit sad, really.
Far as I understand it, it will take a year at least, probably two, before Britain negotiates an agreement for their union departure. So even if there's going to be a massive economic disaster (which I don't think there will be) it's not going to happen just yet, or for a while, so anyone who is acting like that isn't the case, once again... reality check.
The fact is, the E.U will probably dissolve now anyway, making whatever boons it truly brought archaic and irrelevant. I mean, aren't Italy, the Netherlands and France looking towards having their own referendum now?
Whatever the case, I'm happy for Britain. They did what they thought what was right; not what they were told. They chose freedom and democracy over a few potential, economic repercussions. I mean I was bored on their behalf, of hearing all these threats leveled against them. Now, whether leaving is the best thing for them, ultimately, I don't know, I don't think anyone does.
This is a terrible decision made by a vast majority of elders who care more about immigrants than their grandchildren. The thing is, almost all all won't even live to see it's consequences!
So you should bar old people from voting? Disregard the fact they've worked and paid into the system their whole lives? Not allow them a say over the future, they've built towards? They've done a lot more for their country, than the youth has yet, naturally.... and many of their parents fought and died to end dictatorial, German control over Europe. It's one thing to be upset over a referendum's results, but to start picking on old people out of bitterness, is pathetic and wrong. To start calling half of the population racist is pathetic and wrong.
I truly am sorry to pick you out specifically to make that point, it's just I keep seeing it over and over and over again... and it makes me sad. This whole thing makes me sad.
Thanks Britain! It was nice knowing you.
Britain aren't going anywhere. Have some faith in your country, Brits. I do!
I am deeply saddened by the outcome of this referrendrum. Leaving the EU will make it merely impossible for myself as well as many others to… more pay rent, university, and other basic necessities as prices will surge in the coming years. Say what you want, but this is a terrible decision made by a vast majority of elders who care more about immigrants than their grandchildren. The thing is, almost all all won't even live to see it's consequences! Thanks Britain! It was nice knowing you.
It's absurd how not so long ago there were laws to force one's own language and speaking wrong language in public could get you executed or so called "hard labor" as they loved it so much back in the day as punishment method. World War I.
Too much nationalism is dangerous like that, especially when it makes people to force it to people in areas they conquer.
I personally find it amusing. It sounds like Britain is being a sower grape because it no longer holds as much political power over the EU… more it used to have, and no longer can twist other EU states to it's will and now the EU is doing it's will to Britain. lol This happened in the United States over 150 years ago when the Southern States lost majority political control of the USA, caused civil war. Not saying that is what this will lead to. But it reminds me of when France became angry when the EU switched over to English as it's Universal form of communication with each other. It is like how Germany is now the central primary political/economic power in Europe, something France/Britain fought two world wars to prevent, and it happened anyways.
Thing is those old people built the UK over many decades after it was bombed to the ground by Nazi Germany, they are the reason todays youth can have the first world lifestyle they take for granted. Its disrespectful when an 18 year old who never experienced hunger (like the old generations after war did) takes his iPhone and rages on the twitter about the old generation destroying his future. Disgusting.
I haven't got a dog in the fight. I didn't vote. I'm not British.
But all these drama queens who keep droning on about Britain exploding … moreinto a thousand pieces without the E.U need a serious reality check. The nation has been around for a long time. it's been a powerful force for a long time. I don't think its union membership is going to change that.
Of course the market is going to dip. It's going through a massive transition. However, anyone who truly think's it isn't going to correct itself and come out okay, has a disturbingly low opinion of their own country. It's a little bit sad, really.
Far as I understand it, it will take a year at least, probably two, before Britain negotiates an agreement for their union departure. So even if there's going to be a massive economic disaster (which I don't think there will be) it's not going to happen just yet, or for a while, so anyone who is acting like that isn't the case, once again... … [view original content]
I'm really pissed, but I'm not that surprised. Nice to see Britain is a fair-weather friend ready to stick its finger in the eye of the continent at the first sight of trouble. And I'm trying to hold my tongue here.
Bill Maher summed it up perfectly "48% voted for Sense and Sensibility, 52% voted for Pride and Prejudice."
We remember what happened last time European countries closed themselves off, became paranoid of foreigners, and started gloating nationalistic slogans.
Sneaks off to the Alps and starts opening a crate of old surplus STG45s still unassembled don't worry I will get ready. Looks around and sees an entire mine tunnel filled with toys
I may not agree with the EU's decisions but has aided greatly to keeping Europe peaceful and stable. Change must come from within the EU, not ripping it a part.
Thing is those old people built the UK over many decades after it was bombed to the ground by Nazi Germany, they are the reason todays youth… more can have the first world lifestyle they take for granted. Its disrespectful when an 18 year old who never experienced hunger (like the old generations after war did) takes his iPhone and rages on the twitter about the old generation destroying his future. Disgusting.
Because they're going to die in 100 days after brexit get real dude, they have as much right do decide as you, you live in democratic state and this vote was the essence of what democracy truly means, majorty decides and minority have to shut up and follow
Eh, I guess I agree but it kind of sucks that it was mostly over 60+ year olds who voted leave when they won't even face the full on consequences of leaving, if you get what I mean. If 16-17 year olds were allowed to vote, I bet the results would've been much different.
Because they're going to die in 100 days after brexit get real dude, they have as much right do decide as you, you live in democratic state … moreand this vote was the essence of what democracy truly means, majorty decides and minority have to shut up and follow
It's almost funny if you think about it, people are so salty about leaving and demands that MAJORITY bends to the will of the minority, hence rejecting the very idea of democracy. It show how little respect they have for the so glorified and beloved democracy. It seems it's cool as long as people vote as the establishment and buissness wants. If not people are instatny called dumb, unaware, rasist, bigots and other shit.
If you don't like it then go live in some dictatorship were the votes results are known ten years prior...
It's almost funny if you think about it, people are so salty about leaving and demands that MAJORITY bends to the will of the minority, henc… moree rejecting the very idea of democracy. It show how little respect they have for the so glorified and beloved democracy. It seems it's cool as long as people vote as the establishment and buissness wants. If not people are instatny called dumb, unaware, rasist, bigots and other shit.
If you don't like it then go live in some dictatorship were the votes results are known ten years prior...
I get it that the younger generations are upset but...do you surely knows what will happen? Or did just the media says it's the end of the world? We don't know that, maybe it will be good for Britan, maybe for Europe, maybe Russia will benefit from it but right now the day after we don't know jack.
Last november something similar happened in my country when the goverment changed, they said it will be an apocalyse and we'll all suffer...but almost year in and nothing significant happened buissness as usual.
So the best thing is to keep calm and watch Euro's
Eh, I guess I agree but it kind of sucks that it was mostly over 60+ year olds who voted leave when they won't even face the full on consequ… moreences of leaving, if you get what I mean. If 16-17 year olds were allowed to vote, I bet the results would've been much different.
Sorry to jump to conclusions, but I will note, on a constructive point, there's a difference between being against democracy (IE the people shouldn't be allowed to vote) and being salty about the decision that they did make.
Eh, I guess I agree but it kind of sucks that it was mostly over 60+ year olds who voted leave when they won't even face the full on consequ… moreences of leaving, if you get what I mean. If 16-17 year olds were allowed to vote, I bet the results would've been much different.
I think a lot of people don't understand the aftershocks that are going to happen.
England is a very small country that is incredibly industrialized. It's not self sufficient when it comes to crops and you've lived with free trade for so long that these basic needs are sustained with help from other countries.
You're now going to face tariffs on everything you import and have no leverage to lower them. And with all this turmoil how is England going to produce enough commodities for itself let alone to trade with. Also, the government is a divided train wreck that is gonna have a hard time getting its shot together running an independent country.
Plus, people say we will be able to control our borders more by blocking out the EU residents that come over, there is only a tiny proportion of the immigrants that come over for free healthcare most of the time they come here for a job to contribute to out economy. Without migrants, the NHS will be unable to function as it would lose around 8% of its workers and it will likely be privatised - not good. Additionally, we already receive more migrants from outside the EU anyway so it doesn't give us full control at all. We do pay lots to be a member of the EU and although that does not all directly come back - though lots does through rebates- the EU purchase 44% of our services and over half of our goods of which we have little. We are not a self-sufficient country apart from a financial sector, that's it. A few things about the EU I confess I do dislike, such as the fact that it is undemocratic in creating legislation but it would be much better to negotiate with other EU countries about the terms of the EU than to just leave. From the drop in the pound, and numerous countries cancelling and or going to cancel trades; it's quite safe to say that we're quite fucked.
I do agree, however, that things will get better eventually. But if people are expecting it to get better in the next 5 years or so, then dont hold your breath. We're at the very edge of a recession and financially speaking, I see UK tumbling further down because as of now, our country is highly volatile and one of the biggest risks for any investor or trader. Ironic enough, had we been in the EU and remained, your stocks could have skyrocketed after the results.
I get it that the younger generations are upset but...do you surely knows what will happen? Or did just the media says it's the end of the w… moreorld? We don't know that, maybe it will be good for Britan, maybe for Europe, maybe Russia will benefit from it but right now the day after we don't know jack.
Last november something similar happened in my country when the goverment changed, they said it will be an apocalyse and we'll all suffer...but almost year in and nothing significant happened buissness as usual.
So the best thing is to keep calm and watch Euro's
I think that mass demanding of another vote is way more than being salty. Same thing happened when the Lizbon treaty was voted. People had to vote as long as it was needed to get ,,right" result.
Sorry to jump to conclusions, but I will note, on a constructive point, there's a difference between being against democracy (IE the people shouldn't be allowed to vote) and being salty about the decision that they did make.
I think a lot of people don't understand the aftershocks that are going to happen. England is a very small country that is incredibly industrialized. It's not self sufficient when it comes to crops and you've lived with free trade for so long that these basic needs are sustained with help from other countries. You're now going to face tariffs on everything you import and have no leverage to lower them. And with all this turmoil how is England going to produce enough commodities for itself let alone to trade with. Also, the government is a divided train wreck that is gonna have a hard time getting its shot together running an independent country.
it's not like GB is going to suddenly cut itself off the world, the process of leaving EU will take two years at shortest enough time to strike some deals, not to mention it's important as hell to large companies so I doubt anything that drastic will happen. The pound will drop? sure for few months, Unemployment will rise? Yeah all EU bureaucrats needs to be fired but like I said it's not the end of the world.
Plus, people say we will be able to control our borders more by blocking out the EU residents that come over, there is only a tiny proportion of the immigrants that come over for free healthcare most of the time they come here for a job to contribute to out economy. Without migrants, the NHS will be unable to function as it would lose around 8% of its workers and it will likely be privatised - not good. Additionally, we already receive more migrants from outside the EU anyway so it doesn't give us full control at all. We do pay lots to be a member of the EU and although that does not all directly come back - though lots does through rebates- the EU purchase 44% of our services and over half of our goods of which we have little. We are not a self-sufficient country apart from a financial sector, that's it. A few things about the EU I confess I do dislike, such as the fact that it is undemocratic in creating legislation but it would be much better to negotiate with other EU countries about the terms of the EU than to just leave. From the drop in the pound, and numerous countries cancelling and or going to cancel trades; it's quite safe to say that we're quite fucked.
Yeah but the ,,newest migrants" do not come here to work. Read how many of them found work in germany right now. Selecting those who come in and having a background check is a right of a country not a privilege. A thing that may be taken from my country if Berlin and Paris decide to go all borders open on the rest. Even now they calling a summint with ,,founding nations" of EU. It shows how little they think about other members. Also who in the right mind would cancel trade with GB? I mean really you believe that? GB is an enormous market, no sane person would ever say I won't trade with you because you're not a part of EU.
I do agree, however, that things will get better eventually. But if people are expecting it to get better in the next 5 years or so, then dont hold your breath. We're at the very edge of a recession and financially speaking, I see UK tumbling further down because as of now, our country is highly volatile and one of the biggest risks for any investor or trader. Ironic enough, had we been in the EU and remained, your stocks could have skyrocketed after the results.
True there will be an aftershock but not as dire as you think. You Brits have a stable and strong economy, yes slight recession might happen but it's still two years from now on, so by then you will adapt
I think a lot of people don't understand the aftershocks that are going to happen.
England is a very small country that is incredibly indus… moretrialized. It's not self sufficient when it comes to crops and you've lived with free trade for so long that these basic needs are sustained with help from other countries.
You're now going to face tariffs on everything you import and have no leverage to lower them. And with all this turmoil how is England going to produce enough commodities for itself let alone to trade with. Also, the government is a divided train wreck that is gonna have a hard time getting its shot together running an independent country.
Plus, people say we will be able to control our borders more by blocking out the EU residents that come over, there is only a tiny proportion of the immigrants that come over for free healthcare most of the time they come here for a job to contribute to out economy. Without migrants, the NHS wil… [view original content]
My main hope now this is over is that both sides stop being so toxic to each other. At the end of the day the people voted and we have to deal with their choice
Really? When did I ever demand another vote? A 3 point difference is demanding the mass vote differently? I had to choke down Bernie losing, but you know what, he did, and I did, and if you're talking about Lisbon 10 years ago (when I lived in Europe, by the way) yes, as somebody who is in favor of political and economic integration among advance democractic societies, saying that 'gee, I wish the majority voted in a differerent way from the minority (again, 3%), and to think that such a decision is short-sighted, that is hardly being against democracy, it's being disappointed at the results.
I think that mass demanding of another vote is way more than being salty. Same thing happened when the Lizbon treaty was voted. People had to vote as long as it was needed to get ,,right" result.
My main hope now this is over is that both sides stop being so toxic to each other. At the end of the day the people voted and we have to deal with their choice
Really? When did I ever demand another vote? A 3 point difference is demanding the mass vote differently? I had to choke down Bernie losing,… more but you know what, he did, and I did, and if you're talking about Lisbon 10 years ago (when I lived in Europe, by the way) yes, as somebody who is in favor of political and economic integration among advance democractic societies, saying that 'gee, I wish the majority voted in a differerent way from the minority (again, 3%), and to think that such a decision is short-sighted, that is hardly being against democracy, it's being disappointed at the results.
My main hope now this is over is that both sides stop being so toxic to each other. At the end of the day the people voted and we have to deal with their choice
The funny thing is that this huge debate over the results would have happened eitherway, yet many act like its only because of THESE results. With the way that people are arguing over the results i honestly would'nt be surprised if some people decided to split the country into Pro EU Britain and Anti EU Britain. Maybe then everyone would stop going nuts on the issue.
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I personally find it amusing. It sounds like Britain is being a sower grape because it no longer holds as much political power over the EU it used to have, and no longer can twist other EU states to it's will and now the EU is doing it's will to Britain. lol This happened in the United States over 150 years ago when the Southern States lost majority political control of the USA, caused civil war. Not saying that is what this will lead to. But it reminds me of when France became angry when the EU switched over to English as it's Universal form of communication with each other. It is like how Germany is now the central primary political/economic power in Europe, something France/Britain fought two world wars to prevent, and it happened anyways.
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According to my local news, this is how the Brexit is affecting Europe.
..I'm sorry, but nope. The pound dropped dramatically this morning, this is surely a sign of the hell hole we have dug ourselves into. Trading will be harder as Britain will be less relevant so I doubt we're a better "source of income" in the following years to come. Many companies have shut down and moved abroad and outsourced jobs where it is cheaper. Prices will surge, jobs will drop, unemployment will rise, and all hell will break loose. There will be many holidays being booked, holiday makers will have to fork out money to pay for visas and tourists will have to do the same. Tourism industry will be so impacted as flights will become more expensive. And why wouldn't a country kick us out? Britain is losing its relevance, nobody will want to trade with us.
Oh, and Scotland voted to remain(62%) and plan on a second referrendrum so you're quite wrong about them saying "no" again.
Let me sip my tea real quick as you don't realise that all the racists within Britain voted leave. Leaving was a mistake, and you'll soon find out why.
I am deeply saddened by the outcome of this referrendrum. Leaving the EU will make it merely impossible for myself as well as many others to pay rent, university, and other basic necessities as prices will surge in the coming years. Say what you want, but this is a terrible decision made by a vast majority of elders who care more about immigrants than their grandchildren. The thing is, almost all all won't even live to see it's consequences! Thanks Britain! It was nice knowing you.
Scotland voted to REMAIN in the EU but they were dragged out by England though...
I haven't got a dog in the fight. I didn't vote. I'm not British.
But all these drama queens who keep droning on about Britain exploding into a thousand pieces without the E.U need a serious reality check. The nation has been around for a long time. it's been a powerful force for a long time. I don't think its union membership is going to change that.
Of course the market is going to dip. It's going through a massive transition. However, anyone who truly think's it isn't going to correct itself and come out okay, has a disturbingly low opinion of their own country. It's a little bit sad, really.
Far as I understand it, it will take a year at least, probably two, before Britain negotiates an agreement for their union departure. So even if there's going to be a massive economic disaster (which I don't think there will be) it's not going to happen just yet, or for a while, so anyone who is acting like that isn't the case, once again... reality check.
The fact is, the E.U will probably dissolve now anyway, making whatever boons it truly brought archaic and irrelevant. I mean, aren't Italy, the Netherlands and France looking towards having their own referendum now?
Whatever the case, I'm happy for Britain. They did what they thought what was right; not what they were told. They chose freedom and democracy over a few potential, economic repercussions. I mean I was bored on their behalf, of hearing all these threats leveled against them. Now, whether leaving is the best thing for them, ultimately, I don't know, I don't think anyone does.
So you should bar old people from voting? Disregard the fact they've worked and paid into the system their whole lives? Not allow them a say over the future, they've built towards? They've done a lot more for their country, than the youth has yet, naturally.... and many of their parents fought and died to end dictatorial, German control over Europe. It's one thing to be upset over a referendum's results, but to start picking on old people out of bitterness, is pathetic and wrong. To start calling half of the population racist is pathetic and wrong.
I truly am sorry to pick you out specifically to make that point, it's just I keep seeing it over and over and over again... and it makes me sad. This whole thing makes me sad.
Britain aren't going anywhere. Have some faith in your country, Brits. I do!
And Wales, by that logic.
Still, they voted to stay by England's side, and now they have to stay by England's side. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
It's absurd how not so long ago there were laws to force one's own language and speaking wrong language in public could get you executed or so called "hard labor" as they loved it so much back in the day as punishment method. World War I.
Too much nationalism is dangerous like that, especially when it makes people to force it to people in areas they conquer.
Someone check Pound's pulse.
Thing is those old people built the UK over many decades after it was bombed to the ground by Nazi Germany, they are the reason todays youth can have the first world lifestyle they take for granted. Its disrespectful when an 18 year old who never experienced hunger (like the old generations after war did) takes his iPhone and rages on the twitter about the old generation destroying his future. Disgusting.
I fail to see how it is a bad thing, finally they got control of their borders
Just saw a thing about Farage already lying.. What's all about?
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It's... it's gone...
Liberal tears. Mm.........refreshing.
"He is Dead Jim."
I don't think they even knew (or did and that's why the hands are cut out) - I think they just saw the beard and assumed Muslim.
I'm really pissed, but I'm not that surprised. Nice to see Britain is a fair-weather friend ready to stick its finger in the eye of the continent at the first sight of trouble. And I'm trying to hold my tongue here.
Bill Maher summed it up perfectly "48% voted for Sense and Sensibility, 52% voted for Pride and Prejudice."
We remember what happened last time European countries closed themselves off, became paranoid of foreigners, and started gloating nationalistic slogans.
Sneaks off to the Alps and starts opening a crate of old surplus STG45s still unassembled don't worry I will get ready. Looks around and sees an entire mine tunnel filled with toys
I may not agree with the EU's decisions but has aided greatly to keeping Europe peaceful and stable. Change must come from within the EU, not ripping it a part.
lol doesn't mean they're right. they won't have to face the consequences. we're literally on the brink of recession.
Because they're going to die in 100 days after brexit get real dude, they have as much right do decide as you, you live in democratic state and this vote was the essence of what democracy truly means, majorty decides and minority have to shut up and follow
Eh, I guess I agree but it kind of sucks that it was mostly over 60+ year olds who voted leave when they won't even face the full on consequences of leaving, if you get what I mean. If 16-17 year olds were allowed to vote, I bet the results would've been much different.
It's almost funny if you think about it, people are so salty about leaving and demands that MAJORITY bends to the will of the minority, hence rejecting the very idea of democracy. It show how little respect they have for the so glorified and beloved democracy. It seems it's cool as long as people vote as the establishment and buissness wants. If not people are instatny called dumb, unaware, rasist, bigots and other shit.
If you don't like it then go live in some dictatorship were the votes results are known ten years prior...
If you're into English pride so much you might want to try spelling the language properly.
I get it that the younger generations are upset but...do you surely knows what will happen? Or did just the media says it's the end of the world? We don't know that, maybe it will be good for Britan, maybe for Europe, maybe Russia will benefit from it but right now the day after we don't know jack.
Last november something similar happened in my country when the goverment changed, they said it will be an apocalyse and we'll all suffer...but almost year in and nothing significant happened buissness as usual.
So the best thing is to keep calm and watch Euro's
I'm not English nor I'm into English pride, but thanks for the constructive input
Sorry to jump to conclusions, but I will note, on a constructive point, there's a difference between being against democracy (IE the people shouldn't be allowed to vote) and being salty about the decision that they did make.
Ive read that the younger voters had the lowest turnout overall
Sounds like the same thing that fucked over Bernie actually...
I think a lot of people don't understand the aftershocks that are going to happen.
England is a very small country that is incredibly industrialized. It's not self sufficient when it comes to crops and you've lived with free trade for so long that these basic needs are sustained with help from other countries.
You're now going to face tariffs on everything you import and have no leverage to lower them. And with all this turmoil how is England going to produce enough commodities for itself let alone to trade with. Also, the government is a divided train wreck that is gonna have a hard time getting its shot together running an independent country.
Plus, people say we will be able to control our borders more by blocking out the EU residents that come over, there is only a tiny proportion of the immigrants that come over for free healthcare most of the time they come here for a job to contribute to out economy. Without migrants, the NHS will be unable to function as it would lose around 8% of its workers and it will likely be privatised - not good. Additionally, we already receive more migrants from outside the EU anyway so it doesn't give us full control at all. We do pay lots to be a member of the EU and although that does not all directly come back - though lots does through rebates- the EU purchase 44% of our services and over half of our goods of which we have little. We are not a self-sufficient country apart from a financial sector, that's it. A few things about the EU I confess I do dislike, such as the fact that it is undemocratic in creating legislation but it would be much better to negotiate with other EU countries about the terms of the EU than to just leave. From the drop in the pound, and numerous countries cancelling and or going to cancel trades; it's quite safe to say that we're quite fucked.
I do agree, however, that things will get better eventually. But if people are expecting it to get better in the next 5 years or so, then dont hold your breath. We're at the very edge of a recession and financially speaking, I see UK tumbling further down because as of now, our country is highly volatile and one of the biggest risks for any investor or trader. Ironic enough, had we been in the EU and remained, your stocks could have skyrocketed after the results.
I think that mass demanding of another vote is way more than being salty. Same thing happened when the Lizbon treaty was voted. People had to vote as long as it was needed to get ,,right" result.
it's not like GB is going to suddenly cut itself off the world, the process of leaving EU will take two years at shortest enough time to strike some deals, not to mention it's important as hell to large companies so I doubt anything that drastic will happen. The pound will drop? sure for few months, Unemployment will rise? Yeah all EU bureaucrats needs to be fired but like I said it's not the end of the world.
Yeah but the ,,newest migrants" do not come here to work. Read how many of them found work in germany right now. Selecting those who come in and having a background check is a right of a country not a privilege. A thing that may be taken from my country if Berlin and Paris decide to go all borders open on the rest. Even now they calling a summint with ,,founding nations" of EU. It shows how little they think about other members. Also who in the right mind would cancel trade with GB? I mean really you believe that? GB is an enormous market, no sane person would ever say I won't trade with you because you're not a part of EU.
True there will be an aftershock but not as dire as you think. You Brits have a stable and strong economy, yes slight recession might happen but it's still two years from now on, so by then you will adapt
My main hope now this is over is that both sides stop being so toxic to each other. At the end of the day the people voted and we have to deal with their choice
Really? When did I ever demand another vote? A 3 point difference is demanding the mass vote differently? I had to choke down Bernie losing, but you know what, he did, and I did, and if you're talking about Lisbon 10 years ago (when I lived in Europe, by the way) yes, as somebody who is in favor of political and economic integration among advance democractic societies, saying that 'gee, I wish the majority voted in a differerent way from the minority (again, 3%), and to think that such a decision is short-sighted, that is hardly being against democracy, it's being disappointed at the results.
NO!!! NO PEACE, JILL BEFORE HILL 2016
Ooops, wrong political thread.
I didn't meant it like that I meant this by petition to vote again.
here
I read somewhere that by now it got over 1 milion signatures.
edit: here's the petition enter link description here make it almost 2 milion by now
Sadly it seems that won't happen for a LONG time.
We all know what to do, we need to vote John Henry Eden for president!
The funny thing is that this huge debate over the results would have happened eitherway, yet many act like its only because of THESE results. With the way that people are arguing over the results i honestly would'nt be surprised if some people decided to split the country into Pro EU Britain and Anti EU Britain. Maybe then everyone would stop going nuts on the issue.