To combat and fight against society telling people that they should be ashamed of who they are. Which happens quite a lot for queer people, particularly by their families. A massive proportion of homeless youth is LGBTQ because of being kicked out by their parents.
Vegan pride
You choose to be vegan so it's not really the same, but if there were conversion camps for vegans in America, and if being vegan were criminalised in many countries, then I'd say it'd be justified.
Why are there prides anyway? To tell people about yourself? I suppose because I don't really feel the need to tell anybody about my private … morelife that it baffles me.
Oh i'm straight btw, i'm gay btw, i'm ....... btw. Just give everyone a pride while you're at it.
When's Vegan pride?
(Is that offensive ? - think I've been putting strange comments in threads recently)
I care little for gay or straight pride parades. I think the idea of being proud or ashamed of your sexuality to be ludicrous. That being sa… moreid, if gay or straight people want to organize pride parades, then more power to them. I personally think that we should be more proud of our achievements as individuals rather than the achievements of one specific group of people.
Just because online you see lot's of people supporting the gay rights movement doesn't mean that straight people aren't often shunned.
A massive proportion of homeless youth is LGBTQ, having been kicked out by their parents for their sexuality. Does that happen often with straight people, because they're straight?
Oh, sure homosexual people are shunned all the time. That's why it's so strange that whenever I go on Facebook I almost always happen to see… more some fool droning on about some homosexual couple marrying and saying they're so happy and proud of them, how brave they are, etc. And it just so happens that they always get hundreds upon thousands of likes and shares. Oh man! The homophobia! Also, when the US made same sex marriage legal for all states, I do recall everybody and their fucking mother on Facebook had a rainbow profile picture and on twitter, I do recall sooo many people tweeting #LoveIsLove. The homophobia is unreal!
Also, I wish people would stop forcing themselves in victim roles. If you really are shunned, actively, then do something about it other than whine on the internet.
Isn't this what online activists are doing when they campaign for a straight pride parade?
Also very very many lgbtq people 'do things about it'. That doesn't invalidate having a pride parade.
'Default' does not equal 'only right one'. Heterosexuality is 'default' because most people are straight, that's just how it is. That doesn'… moret make people who view heterosexuality as the norm, which it is, homophobic.
Also, I wish people would stop forcing themselves in victim roles. If you really are shunned, actively, then do something about it other than whine on the internet. If you aren't and just assume that everyone hates you because you're gay or black or a woman, then you are simply wrong.
If gay people were treated exactly the same in society as straight people then I'd agree with you completely.
But gay conversion camps are real, gay therapy is real, kids becoming homeless for being gay is real. And that doesn't happen with straight people.
To use a crude analogy: If one person is starving to death and one person is very full, and you have two equal sized portions, you don't give one to each, you give them both to the starving man.
But the situations aren't exactly the same. Straight people are kicked out by their parents because they aren't gay.
Homophobia is real, and having the day to celebrate the idea that we shouldn't be ashamed of our sexuality is nice when very many people out there, in America and all over the globe, would have us converted, or dead, is important.
I understand where you're coming from, because I used to be one of the people talking about 'why don't we have white history month' and all that jazz. But we have to remember that homophobia really fucks up some peoples lives, and having some days of positivity and celebration are a wonderful exersise.
I'm not sure straight people are ostracised particularly for being straight in real terms (i.e. not online but in actual stuff that matters, like having somewhere to live)and as a result I'm not sure what a straight pride parade would even be attempting to combat.
The gay people hating on heterosexual pride day are hypocrites. If you can have a pride day then the other sexuality can as well. It's point… moreless of course, but so is gay pride day.
It is definitely very amusing to watch people get their panties in a twist over it.
People want there to be a straight pride day because there is a gay pride day, a bit like how some people want a white history month.
I think it's rather an unnuanced conception of equality but that's just my opinion.
As a gay person, I think something that's frustrating is that people seem to misunderstand what 'gay pride' means.
It doesn't mean that we think we're better than you because we're gay, or even that we're 'good' because we're gay. It's a resistance to society telling us that being gay is an illness or should be a crime. Having a parade where everyone's happy as fuck and having a party is a slap in the face of preachers and lawmakers in the middle east who want to 'cure' gay people because they think we're harmful to ourselves and others.
A straight pride parade couldn't really do that because there's no country where heterosexuality is illegal and children aren't sent to 'straight conversion camps'. So it'd just be the happy party without the actual meaning. Which is just like...why not just throw a house party? There could be yummy canapes and party hats, it'd be cute.
This is a pretty touchy subject, and I wasn't sure if I could put my thoughts down in a way that wouldn't offend people greatly. I just want to say that I completely agree with your thoughts on the subject. I read all of your posts here. If it matters, I am straight. There is really not a point for me or other non-oppressed people to want Straight Pride Day. I know things are better than they used to be, but I know a few people who are treated like shit for being homosexual.
But the situations aren't exactly the same. Straight people are kicked out by their parents because they aren't gay.
Homophobia is real, … moreand having the day to celebrate the idea that we shouldn't be ashamed of our sexuality is nice when very many people out there, in America and all over the globe, would have us converted, or dead, is important.
I understand where you're coming from, because I used to be one of the people talking about 'why don't we have white history month' and all that jazz. But we have to remember that homophobia really fucks up some peoples lives, and having some days of positivity and celebration are a wonderful exersise.
I'm not sure straight people are ostracised particularly for being straight in real terms (i.e. not online but in actual stuff that matters, like having somewhere to live)and as a result I'm not sure what a straight pride parade would even be attempting to combat.
Thanks very much! It's a bit scary these days posting about such issues, especially on threads like this where everyone is getting offended left right and centre lol
This is a pretty touchy subject, and I wasn't sure if I could put my thoughts down in a way that wouldn't offend people greatly. I just want… more to say that I completely agree with your thoughts on the subject. I read all of your posts here. If it matters, I am straight. There is really not a point for me or other non-oppressed people to want Straight Pride Day. I know things are better than they used to be, but I know a few people who are treated like shit for being homosexual.
never said anything about his sexuality just the fact that such people should be cut off from society. Also I called it a camp on purpose because a hospital is a place for a people with real problems, not idiots...albeit looking at him I might consider idiocy an illness
That person is clearly fucked up but that isn't because they aren't straight.
And we call them 'hospitals' not camps when we're talking about actual mental illnesses :P
I think if he wants other people to die for such absurd reasons then he probably does have a real problem, just like people who want gay people to die.
never said anything about his sexuality just the fact that such people should be cut off from society. Also I called it a camp on purpose be… morecause a hospital is a place for a people with real problems, not idiots...albeit looking at him I might consider idiocy an illness
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And how does that work? Do you somehow lose the feeling of being judged specifically on that day? You're still getting judged as much as any other day, there's no difference.
This is funny: someone actually tried to have a straight pride parade, and no-one turned up.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/07/26/man-organises-straight-pride-parade-blames-gays-when-no-one-turns-up/
I can understand why they have gay pride day - considering allot of Homosexual people still get constantly abused just because of their sexuality and since allot of them were only given basic human rights not too long ago.
I know some people see it as pointless but I see it as a victory march for inequality. The reason why Heterosexuality shouldn't be given the same treatment is because Heterosexuals don't go through the same thing as Homosexuals, well, at least not at the same caliber. I still hear stories about how Homosexuals are being killed simply for their sexuality, how some places refuse to service them because of their sexuality, how some areas refuse to marry them because of their sexuality, how some people still beat them up, sometimes to near-death, because of their sexuality.
I think the default sexuality is different for every individual, it's not something they just change. Just because a larger percentage of the population is a certain sexuality, sex or race doesn't mean those are humanity's defaults.
'Default' does not equal 'only right one'. Heterosexuality is 'default' because most people are straight, that's just how it is. That doesn'… moret make people who view heterosexuality as the norm, which it is, homophobic.
Also, I wish people would stop forcing themselves in victim roles. If you really are shunned, actively, then do something about it other than whine on the internet. If you aren't and just assume that everyone hates you because you're gay or black or a woman, then you are simply wrong.
But are they doing it for the same reasons? It really sounds like this straight pride day is less about showing pride in your own sexuality and more of an attempt to rub it into peoples' faces.
The gay people hating on heterosexual pride day are hypocrites. If you can have a pride day then the other sexuality can as well. It's point… moreless of course, but so is gay pride day.
It is definitely very amusing to watch people get their panties in a twist over it.
To be honest, I think the oppressors just made the parade as a way to say "sorry for taking away your human rights for so many years. Here, have a gift to quite you down". Whilst a parade is nice and all, it doesn't really do much to change the way Homosexuals are still treated.
And how does that work? Do you somehow lose the feeling of being judged specifically on that day? You're still getting judged as much as any other day, there's no difference.
At the end of the day I don't really care to be honest, it's just another thing I won't participate in xd If people want this, they have the right and everyone else can freely ignore them.
Just because online you see lot's of people supporting the gay rights movement doesn't mean that straight people aren't often shunned.
Of course it doesn't mean that homosexual people aren't shunned at all. There's always going to be hateful bigots, as with any race, sexuality, religion, etc. Homophobic hate speech and things of that nature are exactly the opposite of what the greater part of society tolerates in this day and age. Homophobes are now very much a minority. It is completely ignorant to say that we still live in a homophobic society.
A massive proportion of homeless youth is LGBTQ, having been kicked out by their parents for their sexuality. Does that happen often with straight people, because they're straight?
A massive proportion of a much smaller proportion of the population. Only a very small percentage of youth in the west are homeless, plus there is simply no way to tell accurately how many people have been kicked out and for what reasons, which only drives home my point further; Homophobia is not accepted by modern society even in the least bit. Also, the problem of homeless youth will not be solved by gay people marching in a parade with intentions of "celebrating their pride."
Just because online you see lot's of people supporting the gay rights movement doesn't mean that straight people aren't often shunned.
A … moremassive proportion of homeless youth is LGBTQ, having been kicked out by their parents for their sexuality. Does that happen often with straight people, because they're straight?
It seems unnecessary. Sounds like a plea of "Hey we're still here too" instead of "Hey yeah we're straight aw yeah good times!"
There's no point in a STRAIGHT pride day, in my opinion. The reason gay pride days exist is because they have been a group that has been challenged and looked down upon over many years! A pride event says things like "We're not backing down" and "We're proud of who we are". I personally don't see a need for the straight to do the same when heterosexuality is the cultural norm.
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To combat and fight against society telling people that they should be ashamed of who they are. Which happens quite a lot for queer people, particularly by their families. A massive proportion of homeless youth is LGBTQ because of being kicked out by their parents.
You choose to be vegan so it's not really the same, but if there were conversion camps for vegans in America, and if being vegan were criminalised in many countries, then I'd say it'd be justified.
Well for example by being statistically overrepresented in tv shows and advertisements?
Whining about the media kind of pales in comparison to there being literal gay conversion camps doesn't it?
I like this perspective. I think you summed up my thoughts on it better than I ever could have.
Just because online you see lot's of people supporting the gay rights movement doesn't mean that straight people aren't often shunned.
A massive proportion of homeless youth is LGBTQ, having been kicked out by their parents for their sexuality. Does that happen often with straight people, because they're straight?
Isn't this what online activists are doing when they campaign for a straight pride parade?
Also very very many lgbtq people 'do things about it'. That doesn't invalidate having a pride parade.
If gay people were treated exactly the same in society as straight people then I'd agree with you completely.
But gay conversion camps are real, gay therapy is real, kids becoming homeless for being gay is real. And that doesn't happen with straight people.
To use a crude analogy: If one person is starving to death and one person is very full, and you have two equal sized portions, you don't give one to each, you give them both to the starving man.
But the situations aren't exactly the same. Straight people are kicked out by their parents because they aren't gay.
Homophobia is real, and having the day to celebrate the idea that we shouldn't be ashamed of our sexuality is nice when very many people out there, in America and all over the globe, would have us converted, or dead, is important.
I understand where you're coming from, because I used to be one of the people talking about 'why don't we have white history month' and all that jazz. But we have to remember that homophobia really fucks up some peoples lives, and having some days of positivity and celebration are a wonderful exersise.
I'm not sure straight people are ostracised particularly for being straight in real terms (i.e. not online but in actual stuff that matters, like having somewhere to live)and as a result I'm not sure what a straight pride parade would even be attempting to combat.
What's Straight Pride Day?
People want there to be a straight pride day because there is a gay pride day, a bit like how some people want a white history month.
I think it's rather an unnuanced conception of equality but that's just my opinion.
This is funny: someone actually tried to have a straight pride parade, and no-one turned up.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/07/26/man-organises-straight-pride-parade-blames-gays-when-no-one-turns-up/
Well then, I don't really see a problem with it.
If people are proud of being gay, then they're proud. It's their lives, not ours.
As a gay person, I think something that's frustrating is that people seem to misunderstand what 'gay pride' means.
It doesn't mean that we think we're better than you because we're gay, or even that we're 'good' because we're gay. It's a resistance to society telling us that being gay is an illness or should be a crime. Having a parade where everyone's happy as fuck and having a party is a slap in the face of preachers and lawmakers in the middle east who want to 'cure' gay people because they think we're harmful to ourselves and others.
A straight pride parade couldn't really do that because there's no country where heterosexuality is illegal and children aren't sent to 'straight conversion camps'. So it'd just be the happy party without the actual meaning. Which is just like...why not just throw a house party? There could be yummy canapes and party hats, it'd be cute.
I think that most people would agree that the person on that photo should go to some sort of camp to be cured of whatever is going on in his head.
This is a pretty touchy subject, and I wasn't sure if I could put my thoughts down in a way that wouldn't offend people greatly. I just want to say that I completely agree with your thoughts on the subject. I read all of your posts here. If it matters, I am straight. There is really not a point for me or other non-oppressed people to want Straight Pride Day. I know things are better than they used to be, but I know a few people who are treated like shit for being homosexual.
That person is clearly fucked up but that isn't because they aren't straight.
And we call them 'hospitals' not camps when we're talking about actual mental illnesses :P
Thanks very much! It's a bit scary these days posting about such issues, especially on threads like this where everyone is getting offended left right and centre lol
never said anything about his sexuality just the fact that such people should be cut off from society. Also I called it a camp on purpose because a hospital is a place for a people with real problems, not idiots...albeit looking at him I might consider idiocy an illness
I think if he wants other people to die for such absurd reasons then he probably does have a real problem, just like people who want gay people to die.
Literally.
Creepy fetish.
Um, you are aware you posted this on Telltale forums, right?
For my sexuality, yes.
Turns even more creepy after seeing you have Clementine as your avatar...
So you love Justin Bieber?
Maybe he just wasn't thinking straight.
I can understand why they have gay pride day - considering allot of Homosexual people still get constantly abused just because of their sexuality and since allot of them were only given basic human rights not too long ago.
I know some people see it as pointless but I see it as a victory march for inequality. The reason why Heterosexuality shouldn't be given the same treatment is because Heterosexuals don't go through the same thing as Homosexuals, well, at least not at the same caliber. I still hear stories about how Homosexuals are being killed simply for their sexuality, how some places refuse to service them because of their sexuality, how some areas refuse to marry them because of their sexuality, how some people still beat them up, sometimes to near-death, because of their sexuality.
I think the default sexuality is different for every individual, it's not something they just change. Just because a larger percentage of the population is a certain sexuality, sex or race doesn't mean those are humanity's defaults.
But are they doing it for the same reasons? It really sounds like this straight pride day is less about showing pride in your own sexuality and more of an attempt to rub it into peoples' faces.
To be honest, I think the oppressors just made the parade as a way to say "sorry for taking away your human rights for so many years. Here, have a gift to quite you down". Whilst a parade is nice and all, it doesn't really do much to change the way Homosexuals are still treated.
At the end of the day I don't really care to be honest, it's just another thing I won't participate in xd If people want this, they have the right and everyone else can freely ignore them.
I see what you did there...
I don't care.
Of course it doesn't mean that homosexual people aren't shunned at all. There's always going to be hateful bigots, as with any race, sexuality, religion, etc. Homophobic hate speech and things of that nature are exactly the opposite of what the greater part of society tolerates in this day and age. Homophobes are now very much a minority. It is completely ignorant to say that we still live in a homophobic society.
A massive proportion of a much smaller proportion of the population. Only a very small percentage of youth in the west are homeless, plus there is simply no way to tell accurately how many people have been kicked out and for what reasons, which only drives home my point further; Homophobia is not accepted by modern society even in the least bit. Also, the problem of homeless youth will not be solved by gay people marching in a parade with intentions of "celebrating their pride."
Tbh, I could hardly care less.
If we have a "Straight Pride Parade" filled with scantily clad women dancing around and such, I'm all in.
It seems unnecessary. Sounds like a plea of "Hey we're still here too" instead of "Hey yeah we're straight aw yeah good times!"
There's no point in a STRAIGHT pride day, in my opinion. The reason gay pride days exist is because they have been a group that has been challenged and looked down upon over many years! A pride event says things like "We're not backing down" and "We're proud of who we are". I personally don't see a need for the straight to do the same when heterosexuality is the cultural norm.
It was made because people wanted one like the Gay Pride one, right?
If that's the case, then I feel our reasoning is stupid. We've had straight pride day for years whereas the gay community was shat on for years.
If not, then, erm, yay?
smh