Unintentionally Unsympathetic: The Paint Designation of Ron in Black
Hi, DabigRG here! I’ve actually been observing this forum from beyond the screen for quite some time now and I’ve been taking note of discussions, opinions, and details on these two lively games.** So, for my very first post, I wanted to make an interesting discussion of a topic that is very and inspires the contribution of a wide variety of overall opinions and dogmatic details.** At first, I was gonna make a probe around Sarah (because trust me, there’s a lot to talk about), but I realized I need to gather all of my bits before I beat a dead horse ( or prod a possibly undead woman, in this case). So, while looking up discussions around my favorite and unfavorite characters, I couldn’t help but note the base-breaking nature of the Walking Dead characters in general. I’ve seen some people say they hate the likeable characters but they love the unpleasant characters, sometimes to the point of accentuating the negatives and deemphasize the positives. So, in honor of that polarization, I have decided to make my first post on this forum about Characters with Misaimed Interpretations. Feel free to follow my example and tell us why some character just didn’t go over the way they should have with you. That’s what a forum is for anyway, mate!
Unintentionally Unsympathetic/ Unintentionally Sympathetic:
The Paint Designation of
Ron in Black and Draco in White
Note: If you are unfamiliar with TV Tropes, then you are probably gonna be confused….
Also, this is technically part one of what was originally a single thread that got too long, so if you references to things that just aren’t there, that’s why.
EDIT:To talk serious for a sec, this was supposed to allow others to give the own interpretations of a character they loved/hated that they felt they were'nt supposed to so we can discuss and compare our thoughts amongst each other. I removed my full writeup and simply reposting it in the comments if that gets people to start sharing.
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Wow! This forum completely screwed over all the time I spent formatting this blasted thing!
Oh, well, sorry about the bland wall of text. Try to get by without some of the extraneous jokes for a while( assuming I actually take the time to reedit this thing).
Part Two is on the way!
EDIT:Part Two is officially up now!
"Enjoy"!
If it helps, pressing space twice after a line
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EDIT: I made some quick formatting changes. Like I said, pressing enter twice does the trick (as this forum uses odd formatting). Also, welcome to the forums and nice first post!
To summarize for other people they've read the forums for a while and is giving his thoughts on how characters were portrayed and the fanbases reaction to them.
Anyway to start off, you have to understand that the popular opinion on here is not really an accurate portrayal of what the fanbase as a whole thinks of the game and its characters. I'd say this forum goes against the majority on most things.
I think Jane is okay, if a bit crazy. She at least made an impact on me which is more than most of the characters did in season 2. Your attitude of hating her is in line with popular opinion.
I didnt care about Jane at all in episode 3, and she was pretty creepy but lets be real, she may have manipulated Troy a lot but he was her guard and an awful person anyway. It wasnt exactly a healthy relationship.
What is it with people thinking Sarah died because of Jane and Luke, I will never get this, how did them having sex get sarah killed. Jane is the one who helps sarah in both scenarios even if she didnt particularly see the point. For the rest of the episode 4 stuff I think your over estimating this rivalry stuff between jane and sarah, sarah isnt that complex in terms of her thought process particularly after her dads death, that one line seems simaler to episode 3 when she says "I dont get why people are mean", its a child thought process, there isnt any logic there. Plus the plot itself isnt doesn't really involve sarah after the trailer scene, the writers I think intended for her story to end there and they ended up with a poorly done scene to kill her off later, which oddly is only reached by the people who actually like Sarah. I think they were trying to make choice matter somewhat but they failed to make it work. If anything I'd rather they made sarah unsaveable in the trailer, that seems to be there intention with the character, there are some people you cannot save. In the end Sarah seems to be purely for janes character development in episode 4.
I disagree with this even more. Everything about Arvo and his group suggests they are bandits. rather than the faceless badnits in season 1 we get real characters. Arvo shows up to rob clementine and co regardless is she robs him and then calmly asks them to lower there guns and let them take everything. His sister being sick is never confirmed. Also if there intention is to get back at Jane, why doesnt arvo immediatly notice Jane is not there? The majority of evidence suggests arvo and his group rob people, the dialgoue from him and his sister becomes panicked when clems group has the audacity to raise there guns back at them, at this point arvo becomes distressed and tries to calm things down, though again he started it. I believe Arvo was designed to make people sympathetic, just because he has an injury doesnt mean he cant be a bad person,
I'm all for the butterfly effect, but thats a big leap from jane disarming arvo to all this crap happening, plenty of characters make there own big calls, you cant link jane to all that.
Yeah but she doesnt and you even said she didnt mean for it to sound like that. She said what are you going to do about it, it was a dumb thing to say but I think everyone was thinking it
Well....I think Sarah easily could have done. Jane, Luke and clementine nearly die saving her and then Jane almost dies again saving her later. In fact I cant remember once in the game we didnt have to help Sarah survive, she didnt ever really do anything for herself, even in the minor sense
She grabbed a gun off a threat
yeah that was dumb, but understandable
Again I disagree that she caused it, also she got smacked on the head by a plank and she tried her best, what more did you want from her? Her to die when it was impossible and sarah wasnt even trying to get out from under the planks. Lets be honest that whole scene is badly done
I dont think this is the only reason they didnt. Plus look at this group. Kenny is unstable, Bonnie used to work for carver, Mike is who the fuck knows, Arvo just tried to shoot everybody. Its hardly a group of happy campers here
I dont think this is her thought process at all, Jane is just thinking This guy is crazy, we have to get away. I find it rushed that she gets to this point so quickly and her actions with the baby later but this is all she is thinking Clem is in danger with him I must get her to come with me. I'll leave the kenny/jane stuff because its been done so many times, but they are both stupid and in the wrong here, Jane arguably being worse despite her intentions
For the last point really? Jamie, Sarah, Luke isnt her fault and Troy and Vitali were enemy fighters. Kenny fair enough, but hes hardly innocent when killed
Anyway I'm again defending Jane, a character I dont particularly like but yeah, your analysis of her seems pretty harsh and often inaccurate considering how much leeway you give other characters.
Good post
Jane owed nothing to any of the people in Clementine's group, even Clem. She didn't have to stick around and help deal with their problems, nor deal with the drama bullshit that she's been through time and time again. I know this is weird to say, but she stuck around out of the kindness in her heart. She tried (badly) with Rebecca getting prepared for the birth, helping everyone escape when we know she could easily do it on her own (she had plans with Troy), and getting messed by the Russians. Now Jane asked for all the trouble heading her way, but I don't think she's a bad person. She just knew that Clementine's disfunctional group wasn't going to last and she didn't want her and Clem to suffer through the inevitable. Unfortunately for all of us, she contributed to that downfall. Life sucks in TWD and even the pragmatic can't avoid it.
Thanks!
Well, you're half-right. Unless the portrayed comment was also a part of your statement:
Jane is specifically my contrasting opinion of what the story wants me to think. If other peope think the same, then they can feel free to discuss their stance since that's what this topic is for.
The character I will talk about in Part Two (who you've probably guess at this point), on the other hand, is being compared to the fan reaction as well as the story(well, part of it anyway).
Im guessing its Sarah and how people hating her or not liking her is bad.
Characters are there to be loved and hated, they all have a purpose, an ideology, it is like their function in the story, they make things happen so, I went just fine with all of them, even with the ones I hated.
Yeah I mean Jane had issues and behaved in a morally questionable way throughout the whole game. I think she brought a lot of excitement and drama to the game though and along with Kenny and Clementine, was one of the few characters to have a satisfying character arc. Most of the time the reasons why people hate characters like Jane and Kenny are the reasons I like them.
On the whole Arvo thing - Jane and Clementine robbed the guy on some level or the other. They need to take responsibility for the Russians coming after the group imo. If somebody had done the same to Clementine, I know for a fact that a lot of players on here would be pissed and want to kill them.
Oh no, as I teased numerous times in my post that was supposed to be more about Jane, I personally believe Sarah is far from the angel she appears to be and I plan on suggesting how the writers could/should have taken advantage of that in my Sarah specific character analysis; Part two is about another character who I will briefly call a counterpart to Sarah at one point.
Plus, while I eventually found Sarah to be very endearing in episode two, even I went into and played through the game knowing that she had legitimately unappealing qualities that make her a bit difficult to like for some; I recall saying "Dammit Sarah!" at least four times throughout my two playthroughs. So, if people don't like her, that's their opinion and a valid one at that...I might occasionally be willing to fight them to the nail over it once every blue moon, but that's why we have these discussions: to share opinions and compare reasonings. And, as my eventual analysis will go in depth to, I was always expecting to be turned against her at some point....
EDIT: Here's my answers to your previous criticisms:
1.Ok.
2.True.
What is it with people thinking Sarah died because of Jane and Luke, I will never get this, how did them having sex get sarah killed. Jane is the one who helps sarah in both scenarios even if she didnt particularly see the point. For the rest of the episode 4 stuff I think your over estimating this rivalry stuff between jane and sarah, sarah isnt that complex in terms of her thought process particularly after her dads death, that one line seems simaler to episode 3 when she says "I dont get why people are mean", its a child thought process, there isnt any logic there. Plus the plot itself isnt doesn't really involve sarah after the trailer scene, the writers I think intended for her story to end there and they ended up with a poorly done scene to kill her off later, which oddly is only reached by the people who actually like Sarah. I think they were trying to make choice matter somewhat but they failed to make it work. If anything I'd rather they made sarah unsaveable in the trailer, that seems to be there intention with the character, there are some people you cannot save. In the end Sarah seems to be purely for janes character development in episode 4.
3.Well, as I mentioned, I was originally considering doing a full character analysis (with a few extra features) for Sarah but I wanted to do something that people could actually contribute to and discuss in the long-term. But, because Sarah ended up being used for Jane's character development rather than a more mutual deal, some of those thoughts had to be addressed here. Plus, a new character showing up, belittleing, and getting rid of an old character is always gonna be a controversial topic and, unfortunately, this was an example of how a writer should not do that.
4.Spoiler: This will be heavily addressed in the near future, but the point is Jane threw the first punch. Arvo and his group, bandits or not, were just returning the favor.
5.Just wait for it. And of course I can, because I hate her. And as we all know, the internet is all about loving or hating something no matter how much it doesn't make sense....That was a joke, by the way.
6.That's two things: 1.Jane has said and done a lot of things to be untrustworthy, so that was more criticizing how stupid that specification was by using a similarly petty complaint, and 2. it took me days to edit this, so I might have forgotten to change a few things: I have no regret about this though, because of the afforementioned point.
7.Oh, I'm not saying Sarah didn't nor couldn't do that (again, future plans), its just the unfortunate implications of having Jane say/do those things and then ultimately be the one responsible for Sarah's death (in both situations, no less) that drag her down to unsympathetic ville. I stand by my first point, though, because its literally what happens; no offense.
8.I honestly don't know how to respond to that. Just wait for it.
9.Same.
10.Aaand we get to one of the many, many, many, many, MANY problems with Sarah's canon death (as I non-affectionately call it): it causes her, Luke, Clementine(debatably and determinately), but ESPECIALLY Jane to act incredibly out of character without much of a proper payoff. Jane was supposed to be this cold, rational, badass survivalist who is willing to do anything necessary to ensure everyones (but mostly her) survival, but this scene has a diabolus ex machina that makes her look like a clumsy coward. The fact that she insistently talked the complete opposite of this up beforehand makes her look like a bigger jerk than she was supposed to at the time. I'm not going to argue about Sarah's part because I plan to do something with her later and your final sentence is a nutshell of win.
11.Honestly, that's more of the writers of Amid the Ruins creating so much baggage that No Turning Back didn't do much to address. Ironically, your point about the group does make them that much more interesting.
12.Go back and look at that scene again: the first thing she does when he leaves the truck is call him a fucking asshole, which is absolutely true, but the timing of it is what puts her in the wrong. He just came out of a heated argument with her by asking her first to see if she was ok after they nearly crashed and then put himself in danger by going out in the cold to look for diesel. Also, there was supposed to be a Gilbert Gottfried link there, just so you know.
Anyway I'm again defending Jane, a character I dont particularly like but yeah, your analysis of her seems pretty harsh and often inaccurate considering how much leeway you give other characters.
13.The point is, by her own logic, Jane has technically spilled the blood of at least three innocents. Which, by her definition, is someone who didn't wrong her first, which technically includes Natasha, but that would be just as petty as Luke since she wasn't even there. The point of this is that Jane is irredeemable (at the moment, anyway, since I personally believe even the most unapolegtic villain in the world can still change their ways, and we still have Season 3 to look forward to) in my eyes and I am officially done with her. I said mostly because, while some of those victims were assholes, I'm going by her moral code and Sarah, Vitali, and to a far lesser extent Kenny didn't fit the bill. But you're right, I even admitted to being emotionally irrational and petty in the post itself.
This. Despite my over the top rage-filled ranting, I didn't think Jane was a bad person either and some small part of me still wants to believe that. Some small hint of light in her heart was causing her to stick around longer than she wanted to, with her pointing out such numerous times. It was against her "my survival over anyone else's" mentality, but she just couldn't help herself. Unfortunately, things just didn't pan out and she brought some of it on herself.
You, sir/ma'am, are a cut above the rest. I salute your wisdom.
Truth.
SPOILER: Stay tuned for Part Two.
Would you mind quoting which bits your replying to? It would make it easier to know what you are saying.
If you want to quote something, just copy my text, paste it and then select the quote option above the dialogue box.
EDIT: Reedited to include some of the emphasis and jokes that we're lost in translation. Enjoy!
EDIT of EDIT: How do you get youtube video's to link properly? I tried to merge it with the appropriate text but it either posts the entire clip in the discussion or reads as an unshowable image.
Ok, sorry bout that. I just got too lazy to properly quote everything and just used numbers instead. I got it fixed up for you
P.S. That was a bitch to edit!
So help me god, this post is one that has been done and redone to death. Your reasoning is biased. You refuse to consider the fact that Sarah was the best definition of the title of the series. But we have had these discussions a million and a half times. I used to hate Kenny...But nowadays I just take himself as a mentally ill man who has lost too many loved ones.
Kenny and Jane do have some similarities. They can both be selfish and fall into the trap of thinking they know everything. They can both be abrasive.
Jane is a Darwinist, this allows her to function better in this apocalypse. She realizes that people are sometimes not going to make it and can see the detriment in them. She would rather leave them to die than to make them suffer this existence and endanger others. It is her coping mechanism. At the same time, she is protective of people like Clementine who show an ability to survive. She tries to help Clementine gain more smarts and tools with which to live.
Sure the putting AJ in the car was out there, but I sorta blame bad writing for this...But the idea to force the issue instead of letting Kenny's violent behavior to further damage Clementine and alienate people they meet is a valid option.
Kenny is a good man for normal life. But the realities of the apocalypse is something that he cannot handle. The killing of Larry was bad, but I understand it. But it destroyed Lilly's ability to make the best judgment calls. When duck is bitten he holds off doing what is needed, again understandable yet his actions with the train and the knowledge of what he did to Larry push Katjaa to make an emotionally charged decision to take her own life.
The rest of season one Kenny is mostly subdued until the boat and that idiot Ben. Now here Jane and Kenny would have the same opinion...kill him. Jane would not have tried to help Ben in that alley.
Season two...Kenny is out of control. Every so often though the Kenny we love shows himself.
The way I feel, Kenny is better off dead. The man has suffered and been suffering even more. Jane, in a group with Clementine, it is apparent that Clem is the alpha and Jane is ok with that.
Thank you I guess? I do not know if you are being sarcastic so... Yeah, I am awful at this stuff, I mean I really can not tell.
Note: I am a man, but I share this account with my twin sister so yeah, you got it.
Right okay thanks that makes it easier
I dont know, I feel a lot of people dont like it purely because of how it turned out, it raised one of the main plots of the walking dead pragmatism vs morality. Plotwise it worked fine until they made Sarah determinant. The fanbase appeared to like Jane in episode 4 and only had a problem when she went against Kenny in episode 5.
Wait what? I heavily disagree Jane was to blame for the second death but there is no way she is responsible for the first? seriously how can you think that? Because she tells clem to leave? Sarah is going to die there to the zombie attack, clementine can slap sarah (which somehow saves her, dont get me started on that), however Jane doesnt cause the situation.
I think Jane is way more in the wrong in the fight scene , however I was just arguing that she doesnt intend to kill Kenny until he attacks her
Everything else your basically saying to wait for your next post, which I will do.
That's it exactly. Also, I know the feeling of confusion over people not liking a character specifically because they didn't get along with their favorite.
She's the one to bring it up in the first place. And believe it or not, while I never went through with it, I'm actually fine with the first death(for the most part, and not for the reasons you think lol)
On the second death though, its more like "You spent so much time talkin shit and now you trigger the reason we're in this exact situation in the first place. So you got some bad vibes pointin at you, babe."
Oh well, it's the thought that counts but I have nothing I can really say at this point. Sorry, though you saying it was rushed beforehand is a legitimate point.
No, I meant telling me how it is from a meta stance was very respectable in my eyes.
Its actually part of the many reasons why Sarah's 2nd death bothered me so much: it felt like it didn't really have much of a real function in the story or purpose besides "kill of Sarah".
Well, of course its biased. By the way, that Sarah pun was genius! I might just have to use that....
Actually, if there's one thing your post does to hurt me, its that it points out the failure on my part: this discussion is supposed to be about every one's talking about their opposing opinions so we can all discuss them as a community. If my biased thoughts are really that distracting towards the real point, then maybe I'll just remove them and post them as a comment so that everyone can have their chance.
Good post! I agree with you on most points and like how in depth you went, but remind me how Jane caused Sarah's death? Sarah can die either at the trailer park or by falling from the observation deck. The former, Jane can cause indirectly by telling Clementine to leave Sarah. How is the latter situation affected by Jane? In my play through she tried to lift the debris off Sarah. Also this:
How is that so? The group had no idea whether Wellington was a real place or overrun or managed by undesirables. I would argue Howe's was closer if not at the end, through most of the story, and they knew there was food and water there.
p.s. You should write a post on Bonnie and a post of Lilly. :-)
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Yeah I hear you, I like to think that Sarah's second death was meant to show that some people can not be saved, simply because they do not want to, it is like "hey, this is the apocalypse, if you are not able to TRY to survive even a bit, you will not last long". It also enhanced Jane's ideology, it was like a repetition of her story with her sister, it shows you that she was right about Sarah, which is all part of the plot preparation for the whole Jane and Kenny situation, MEANWHILE, it resolves well Sarah's arc in the story.
Your insight is almost spot on once again, sir.
Ultimately, the reason that doesn't quite work (for me anyway) is because its difficult to accurately gauge whether that was really on Sarah (the choice not the rubble): her lower body is pinned under the rubble with a single unmoving leg visible. I've seen some people theorize that her leg may have been broken in the fall, which isn't a bad idea in and of itself, but since no attention is drawn to it in context, others deny it. Either way, the fact that she's stuck in a position where she can't really move without any help from Jane ruins any real output on her end and thus, makes her death frustratingly cruel and humiliating. Its the same reason why Nick's 1st death is so tragic if you thought he wasn't that bad: because his fate was left in the hands of someone he unintentionally hurt and thus his inability to fight off the walker himself meant he never got to redeem himself of that mistake. So thus, because Sarah couldn't really move, that meant she didn't have a choice, and thus her character arc doesn't really conclude so much as get cut short.
I did consider that Jane could've been right about Sarah and the 1st death serves that purpose well, since only Sarah can choose to stand up and let Luke pull her up in that scenario. Again, I personally just can't get past Jane's contribution to the 2nd death, which felt overwhelmingly unfair, versus the 1st death, where it was completely justified.
To talk serious for a sec, this was supposed to allow others to give the own interpretations of a character they loved/hated that they felt they were'nt supposed to so we can discuss and compare our thoughts amongst each other. I'm considering removing my full writeup and simply reposting it in the comments if that gets people to start sharing.
If anyone else agrees that that's a good idea, please reserve a small space at the bottom of your comment (no need to reply specifically to this post since I plan on using it as a creator's space later.) saying so and I will take your thoughts into count and move it as a reply to this messsage. Thank you and your input is not only welcomed but encourage!
I prefer that death as well, storywise the game makes way more sense, Jane appears to be consoling clementine while walking back rather than weirdly scolding clementine for saving sarah. Also I just always found the way sarah is saved just bizzare.
I know, right? I know she clearly had good intentions in the later scenario (not wanting Clementine to get too invested in going down the path she did by trying to help Sarah get better), there are just some negative connotations to the way it was handled and thus, it felt like it was just as much (if not more) for her benefit as it was Clementine's. And not in the understandable way either, considering even before they found her, Jane seemed to be trying her hardest to convince Clementine that her friends are mostly likely dead and she should forget them before disdainfully cursing under her breath when Sarah and Luke started screaming at each other in the trailer(which, again, is hilarious timing) .
If you mean the slap, I'm surprised so many people had a problem with that. It seemed clear from the beginning that Sarah was supposed to be reminiscent of "What if Clementine grew up with Lee constantly protecting instead of teaching her how to survive?" So, while the idea of Clementine mentoring an older version of her former self is a great example of how to reuse an old idea, I was always under the impression that there would be mixed results. Episode 3 seemed to be all about waking her up to the way the world really is and while she always had more of an idea than people give her credit for, now she had to deal with the harshness of it: having to operate and get by without her dad's presence, learning the hard way that there are times when she should recognize when to be quiet, Carlos having to physically discipline her for the first time, seeing Carver flat out kill a few people (with Reggie specifically being used to teach her a lesson about obedience, as I recently found out), seeing Kenny get his eye bashed in by Carve, witnessing Carver and Troy got shot to leave them to their fates, having walker guts smeared all over her so she can walk through a herd of them, and finally losing Carlos due to a poorly timed bullet. All that, combined with the hints that Clementine herself may be putting on a brave face, told me that even at her most competent, she was never gonna take to it well. The slap represented several things: giving the frustrated players a chance at catharsis, snapping her out of the PTSD-esque flashbacks that she seemed to be having, and reminding her that while Carlos slapping her for the first time may have been traumatizing to her, sometimes it means the person doing it either really cares for her or, as I've sometimes darkly interpreted from her odd perception and point of view, that even the people she thinks she can trust are capable of hurting her. The latter interpretation would have played into some of my ideas for where her character arc could/should have gone.
The death she suffers if you decide abandon her, on the otherhand, is a mixed bag of heartbreak and narm.
I believe she could move, so to me Sarah's second death was her choice as well, I am well aware of what people theorize though. The message to me is clear, Sarah was too weak, no one can be carried on forever. That did not stop me from trying though.
I get why there is an option to slap sarah, clementine is a child and doesnt understand why Sarah is not moving and her response makes sense. However I just dont understand how being slapped suddenly causes sarah to get up and get out of the trailer. Look horrified maybe but I dont see it making her move.
I hear you. And, honestly, I'm usually too frustrated with whether it felt fair, who's fault it was, and how it barely had a story impact to really stop and consider the fact that Sarah isn't exactly a bodybuilder and thus, wouldn't be able to move much regardless of Jane's input.
Sarah was a sick girl, I understand that, But Jane did try to save her (in my playthrough at least). My point though, is that Sarah's second death is valuable to the story once it builds up a valid argument for Jane in the conflict to come.
Look, I can bullshit all day about why the slap is what gets her to move, even though I acknowledge that it probably makes absolutely NO sense (lol). So, I'm just gonna generalize a few basic ideas:
1. It plays to her supposed anxiety disorder which, in addition to causing her to freeze up and hyperventilate, makes her want to get as far away from the source of what's stressing her out as possible.
2. She didn't completely comprehend that there were walkers trying to break into the room until the slap/leaving on Clementine's part made her pay attention. This is backed up by the fact that when she gets up on the roof in the former scenario, she seems to be nervously glancing around as if she didn't realize where she was until just then.
3. A combination of both where she thinks "I better move or else Clementine might slap me again--or worse!"
Also, its worth noting that Clementine helps her to her feet when the walkers break in.
Feel free to pick one or don't because it just occurred to me that this is a series about a zombie apocalypse where the virus that makes you turn is in the air, and yet the logic of why a slap convinces an traumatized, mentally-regressive teenager to move her ass is what we're complaining about.
Loved that. It gave a very accurate depiction of both characters and despite your obvious dislike for Jane, it managed to be unbiased and instead just presented the truth about Kenny and Jane's personalities. And this is coming from a Kenny fan.
Overall though, great post, anyway and to be honest, I agreed with what you said. Like, personally, I don't hate Jane and on my second playthrough, I've actually found myself liking her to some extents, but a lot of her fans do need to acknowledge some of the things in her character, such as her pretty ruthless nature.
Thanks! I find that comparing completely different characters when you're invested in one can be a lot of fun! Feel free to create a separate comment about your hated character the story wanted you to like. Thats what this thread is for!
Feel free to check out Part Two!
Thanks! Feel free to make a separate comment about your own experiences here or in Part Two! That's what this thread is for!
What character got under your skin when they should have stolen your heart?
Ok. I still wish it would've been handled a little better, but I get your point.
By the by, feel free to make a separate comment in this thread or its sequel about your experiences. That's what this thread is all about!
Was there a character you should've liked that you wanted to hurt or one you wanted to help that you should've disliked?
Thanks man! And typing this out was actually very cathartic for me personally. Sometimes its as easy as asking yourself why you're glad or mad, so don't sweat it!
And speaking of which, feel free to take advantage of this opportunity and make a separate comment here or in Part Two about how a character you that was supposed to make you glad/mad ended up making you mad/glad. Thats the type of thing I wanted to see when I created this thread for everyone!