Sorry Telltale, I just can't support your shady business model.
First it was Game of Thrones, now Batman. You release a "disc" but don't actually put the content on it, and force us to download it instead?
This is incredibly shady and misleading. Didn't know that was the case with GoT, held off buying Batman until I was sure.
PUT THE CONTENT ON THE DISC. There are those of us out there that DO NOT LIKE DIGITAL, whether you like it or not.
Trying to force me to download content because you only give me a portion of the game on the disc is slimy and will just result in me not buying your games at all in the future.
Stop alienating your customers please. Do the right thing. Give those of us who wait a complete product and don't punish us because we don't like digital.
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Yeah you're right. Thats a stupid business move
"Hey buddy, you looking for an episode? You need that fix, don't ya? Bring $25 in an unmarked plastic bag to an alleyway in 15 minutes. Come alone." - Telltale's shady business department.
What's wrong with digital ? It's so much more convenient than physical.
You can't stop the future.
There are those out there with slow internet speeds or no internet at all? Imagine the latter, someone who has no internet buys one of TT's season pass discs, only to then find out that it doesn't have all the eisodes.
Not sure I'd call it shady. Probably more of a stupid and wasteful decision. Why bother printing these BluRay discs if you barely even take advantage of them? And it also goes against the very reason people buy physical copies of games. To not wait until the damn thing downloads.
I...suppose it's possible there are people with game consoles and who buy video games who have no access to the internet but that seems like it would apply to so few people that I'm not sure how much people need to factor them in.
Well the Final Fantasy XV team factored it in, which is why they delayed the game for 2 months... then again they then had a large day 1 patch with a large list of changes, but the unpatched version is still leagues ahead of what they showed in August (when disc production was supposed to begin, to meet the original release date of September 30th)
This is a really ignorant response.
This is a really ignorant response.
Whether they put it on the disk or not, they're still gonna want you to connect to e-verify you own the game. If I were TT, I'd stop selling disks and just sell download codes written on paper. I bet the cost saved would more than make up for the people who would refuse to buy the game if it didn't come on a physical disk.
It might also be for marketing. They know that people will download the game, even if there are episodes missing; we don't want to wait for the game to be completed just so it can be sold as a hard copy.
They used to sell hard copies though. I feel they should keep doing that for people like yourself. Not everyone likes digital downloads,
Uhhh... what?
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Typically, people complaining about having to wait for games to download have an internet speed that's really slow. I've never had to wait much more than ten minutes. Smaller games only take half as long. That's not inconvenient. Physical copies of the games get scratched, get broken, stuck, lost, or make hella noise when they are spinning around in your console, and they take up shelf space too. Not sure what point the OP is trying to make, but calling everyone "really ignorant" who has something to say on the topic isn't the best way to make conversation.
IKR?!? It's always better to have a physical copy, I feel like its a business move or something, but its REALLY annoying.
I feel the opposite. Physical copies can be lost or defective or damaged. An online copy won't be.
I wouldn't call that a "slimy, shady business model" so much as an inefficient and counter-intuitive way to sell the game. You're in the middle of an electronic revolution though, and the episodic games niche is still freshly carved. Give them your feedback and then maybe a break for experimenting a little? They're figuring out the best and most convenient way to do this in a time when that's up in the air even for normal games. I'm sure it isn't going to be a lasting trend.
I bought the disc and I just found out about the disc just having one episode. If I finish the first episode, can I download the other episodes free since I have the disc?
Digital is here to stay. The revolution has already started.
I would not be surprised if Telltale go 100% digital very soon.
No freebies at all! Like every one else, you must pay for episodes that are considered to be additional to the base game!
nope. you DL exactly what you want
If you buy the disc, you are entitled to download Episodes 2-5 for free. Episode 1 comes with the disc.
Literally everyone does this. I bought Rome II and Battlefront in which I thought I was getting a hard copy and didn't. Its the new way of gaming. I dislike it. I like the old way of hard copies. I have awful internet so downloading takes forever. However, soooo many computers are coming without disc ports now, so spending extra money on making physical discs is actually the only way that gaming companies are going to make their games. at least for PC, but starting soon with XBOX and PS4 too I'm sure.
I find it weird that this thread has almost 2 thousand views and 20 likes when it only has almost 25 comments. I suspect someone using bots.
I know I didn't really like the new "Model" either but Telltale was trying make the series very comic book like. They also did this in TFTB to make it feel like a comic book to.
If all the episodes are out and you are releasing a disc copy of a game, then I believe that all episodes should be on the disc.
However I believe they do it like this, not to push for a digital only future but as an anti-piracy deterrent. Which is kind of funny since the One and PS4 don't yet have any way to play pirated content.
Most Americans don't understand that you live in a country with unlimited internet. There are plenty of countries out there, such as Canada, where you have caps or pay for every Gig of data you use. I am sure those countries would really appreciate not having to download 10gb at their priced rates and increase the cost of the game to them.
What if someone bought the disc and all episodes were released and they still don't have access to episodes 2-5? Support does nothing but ignores emails. Telltale games have gone downhill!
Physical copies can also be resold and bought at discounts.
you should have read the description before your brought it dude, they said it clearly, they didn't mislead you, your just kinda ignorant.
ever hear of data corruption?
If by a few people you mean a few million (or more people), than yeah. Just to give you an example, I only live a 7 minute drive outside of town but have no "cable" internet offered in my area because it's a rural neighborhood. I don't want to "deny the future" or anything, but unfortunately, "the future" costs about $250 a month in certain areas(and "the future" happens to be shitty overpriced Satellite Internet that only works really good 50% of the time, which nobody in their right minds would pay for). So, I'm stuck with AT&T's shitty DSL at 6Mbps for $60 a month. Don't get me wrong, I power through and download games anyway, but it does kind of suck waiting 8 hours to play something, and if I download too much I'm paying extra for data. So I can relate to the OP and people who just want to buy a game and play it.
7 minute drive to Walmart to buy a disc, or wait 8 hours for a download? Which is worse?
And yes, I live in America.
doofmaczemy is just an American who lives in an area with unlimited internet. I live in America, and the best I can get is 6Mbps internet. Meaning the "20 minutes" the OP is mentioning is a load of shit. Try 20 hours. Maybe 8 on a good night with a small game, like ONE EPISODE of Telltale.
8 hour download, or 7 minute drive to Walmart. Which would you pick, doofmaczemy?
Also, your comment, and the one about "Stopping the future," is in fact ignorance when the future only applies to people who don't live in rural areas. Even here in the good ole USA. Him stating that does indeed add to the discussion.
The more you know, get it?
I understand the place your coming from, but i think your just overreacting. I mean "shady business model"? That sounds like they keep slaves, or worse, but in the end it just an stupid concept your a little bit upset about. Nobody is "forcing" you, to buy the Game at all. If you don't like it, don't buy it. And if youre gonna buy it than you could just appreciate it as well. Maby not for their shitty ways of luring you in, but for the awesome gameplay and unique mechanics...
Those of you accusing Telltale of not putting content on the disc, seriously, how slow is your internet speed? I mean, are you living in some rural village with satellite communication?
Cant you get a all you can eat data plan for your phone for less than $60 then you can use your phone as a hotspot thats what I do
So what if they are, are people not allowed to live in rural areas now that we live in "the future" come on now dont be ignorant to the fact people live in different areas thats silly of you
I didn't mean that. I've asked because I assume that most of them still have enough speed to download a game in 2-3 hours. Long, but manageable. So just wanted to confirm it, I may be wrong.
Also if I'm right, I think that the main reason is a wish to have a physical copy that you can hold and touch and put onto the shelf, and in THAT case I would like to argue about archaic ways of thinking.
I usually buy a AAA game soon after release complete it quickly then trade it in towards the next one so in a sense I only pay about £5-10 for a £50 game if that makes me archaic then so be it
No, actually you have a point, and for me that's the only valid point of buying a physical copy. But more and more companies are now including license key in the box, which attaches the game to your Steam account and would make the disc useless to anyone else, and therefore prevent losses on used games. But that's another matter related to game's cost.