This theory does not hold up at all, it is just wild speculation.
Pete was just as worried and cautious about Carver finding them as the others were. He gives no indication that he wanted them to go back to Howes, nor that he had a radio or was talking to Carver at all. Carver didn't know where they were or else he wouldn't just be scouting, he would have shown up in force like at the ski lodge.
A locked cabinet and the Nicks mom plot hole (literally no one mentions her again even when they go to Howes) are not sufficient evidence to even sort of support this claim.
Posting this on Details from another thread on someone else's suggestion. Even if you don't agree with the theory itself, there might be som… moree details here to get you to think about.
I'm about to drop the hottest theory of 2017. This makes R+L=J look like chump change. Check it:
Pete was a traitor to the Cabin Group.
A well intentioned traitor, of course. Basically it all stems from this weird line you can get from Carver right here.
But following the rabbit hole a little deeper...
What motivation would Pete have to 'betray' the Cabin Group and in what form? Setting the time back at Howes prior to the group's attempted escape from Carver - Rebecca is trying to convince others to leave since she can't stand Carver anymore and wants to leave with Alvin. Rebecca involves Luke in the conspiracy, who is obviously close friends with Nick who is convinced to get out.
Pete, when approached about this, is mostly unsure and thi… [view original content]
Posting this on Details from another thread on someone else's suggestion. Even if you don't agree with the theory itself, there might be som… moree details here to get you to think about.
I'm about to drop the hottest theory of 2017. This makes R+L=J look like chump change. Check it:
Pete was a traitor to the Cabin Group.
A well intentioned traitor, of course. Basically it all stems from this weird line you can get from Carver right here.
But following the rabbit hole a little deeper...
What motivation would Pete have to 'betray' the Cabin Group and in what form? Setting the time back at Howes prior to the group's attempted escape from Carver - Rebecca is trying to convince others to leave since she can't stand Carver anymore and wants to leave with Alvin. Rebecca involves Luke in the conspiracy, who is obviously close friends with Nick who is convinced to get out.
Pete, when approached about this, is mostly unsure and thi… [view original content]
Before New Frontier premiered, I remembered how there was a theory about how the color of the wristband Clementine wears varies depending on which Season 2 ending we got. Is this true?
Before New Frontier premiered, I remembered how there was a theory about how the color of the wristband Clementine wears varies depending on which Season 2 ending we got. Is this true?
There were a number of different lines that were used as evidence throughout from different people - from the hidden kitchen conversation in E1, to Pete's attitude towards Clementine to how Carver can react to Clementine. I made that 'one piece of dialogue' that you point out prominent considering that's the line that led my thinking to this point. If you can't find it in your eyes to see that Pete might do this, then that's fine. I disagree, considering he's not doing it for malicious intent or anything, but some people can see characters differently.
My skepticism is mostly based on that most of this seems to be based on one piece of dialogue from Carver. I also don't really see Pete doing that, good intentions or not.
A bit off topic here, but about you mentioning that the room with the closet being Pete's room because of the watch. Nick mentioned that Pete gave him the watch so that was probably Nick's room.
There were a number of different lines that were used as evidence throughout from different people - from the hidden kitchen conversation in… more E1, to Pete's attitude towards Clementine to how Carver can react to Clementine. I made that 'one piece of dialogue' that you point out prominent considering that's the line that led my thinking to this point. If you can't find it in your eyes to see that Pete might do this, then that's fine. I disagree, considering he's not doing it for malicious intent or anything, but some people can see characters differently.
Pete was just as worried and cautious about Carver finding them as the others were.
No?
If you read into it, Pete is weirdly apathetic about the circumstances surrounding Carver, caring much more for Clementine which can be a telling statement of his morality and priorities considering his potential knowledge of Carver. He has almost no reaction to the introduction of Clementine and her unproven implications with Carver in comparison to the Cabin Group - he doesn't share Carlos' distrust and fear that Clementine could go off and tell someone about them, nor the paranoia of Rebecca or Nick and not the clear anger and disregard that Alvin has for Carver. Even Luke, the nice guy of the group, goes on to question Clementine to try and find evidence of Carver "They didn't mention any names, right? They weren't searching for anybody?" Pete says one passing statement about Carver - a statement anyone could make after meeting him. That's it.
He gives no indication that he wanted them to go back to Howes
I never said he wanted to go back to Howes. I said he may not have wanted Rebecca to leave as it was more dangerous for her and the baby out in the wilds than in Howes as was the view of others like Reggie and Bonnie, but he leaves with her to keep her and his own family safe.
nor that he had a radio or was talking to Carver at all.
Pete himself may not have outside of his potential over-neutrality, but the plot becomes a lot more valid if you follow this train of thought.
The fact that it solves the Nick's Mom plot hole by giving Carver prior knowledge of what happened to the group.
The fact that Carver conveniently turns up to the place his people lived the morning after his man on the inside went MIA.
Providing logic and reason behind his creepy line of questioning towards Clementine since he knew about her from Pete.
Providing reason for his weird investigation of the Cabin - to search the home in which he knew his people had once lived.
The fact that it gives the locked cabinet a purpose when it otherwise had none.
Explaining with more depth the weird line of dialogue you get from Carver if you mention Pete's trust.
Don't get me wrong, I get why you're calling this out - there is absolutely no physical proof at all that Pete's radio exists and if it weren't for the fact that Carver's group use them in S2E3 I wouldn't have brought it up as there's no precedent for it. But like how the radio itself can't be disproven at all, the non-existence of the radio can't be proven either. And because of the list of things that the radio clears up above, I'd say there's move evidence for the radio than against.
Carver didn't know where they were or else he wouldn't just be scouting, he would have shown up in force like at the ski lodge.
He was 'scouting' to make sure Pete hadn't deceived him and fled from the range of his radio. He probably sent his other people in the other three directions to look for signs of the Cabin Group in the case that they find any trace of them so that they wouldn't lose track of them if they decided to try and run for it the day before, hence why the inevitable confrontation was at the ski-lodge rather than at the cabin so Carver could regroup. It isn't a coincidence that Carver might investigate this the day after his guy failed to report in and considering the bandit attack in the river he had to take care of, he might probably feel restless that the two events were connected.
A locked cabinet is not sufficient evidence to support this claim.
Why not?
Do you know that literally every observable item in the cabin has a purpose? Every one, save this. I can go through them all right now:
Locked doors/windows/trap door - Protecting them for intruders, showing the group's caution. Duck photo - "...Duck." Baby names - Proof that the room in which this is found is Alvin and Rebecca's room and their forethought into the baby. Bathroom closet/bathtub - Prepares the player for a place to hide on Rebecca's inevitable entrance. Risk board/Chess board - Shows that the Cabin Group have fun at times - it's mentioned earlier they play poker, so this is evidence to their character. The Cabinet - ???
And it's not like I'm being overly obsessive over this - they could have made this cabinet not interactable at all, or better yet have Clementine open it and reveal there to be absolutely nothing in it. So is there another explanation? I can only think of two things:
The Cabin Group never bothered to check what's inside the cabinet. Which is incredibly stupid - there's something that's been locked pre-apocalypse and you have all the time in the world yet they don't take the time to bust open the cabinet? When it's made of wood of all things? Nah.
There is something else that is valuable inside the cabinet. But what?
Food? Surely they'd just put that stuff in the kitchen. Medical supplies? Why would they split their supplies into two places, with the other being in Sarah's room? That seems like a recipe for chaos and time wasting in an emergency. Weapons? I doubt it. Again like above, it seems like it would be chaos in an emergency to fiddle with a locked door. The most appropriate place for weapons besides directly on a person, I think, would be in the basement. And considering Carlos' haste in retrieving weapons for him and Rebecca before heading out to look for the others, I think this is reasonable.
Keeping the radio in the cabinet keeps it close, safe and out of sight. It's the perfect hiding place so long as Pete doesn't lose the key.
The Nicks mom plot hole (literally no one mentions her again even when they go to Howes) are not sufficient evidence.
You know... Yesterday when I was drafting this, I thought the same. But it turns out as I replayed there is actually one line that is said after Carver's encounter with Clementine in S2E2 in the cabin. And I'm honestly not surprised that no one brought it up at all, because it's so well hidden that I can see how people just gloss over the line without thinking on it.
Alvin: "Guess he did have food. Man, fuck Nick. Nick's lost a lot of his people that's for sure. But that doesn't give him any excuse to start shootin' up strangers." 'His people' meaning Pete and his mom. It couples her together with his brother, and because Nick isn't involved in the scene most people basically move past it without a second thought.
As for why she isn't mentioned at all from S2E3 onwards... Well, Nick can be dead by then. Which makes him and Pete more or less irrelevant after Reggie mentions them. As an explanation for why Reggie didn't bring up Nick's Mom's name amongst them, why didn't he bring up Luke? It's possible that he either didn't remember them or he didn't want to rub salt in the wound by naming every person who's apparently dead now. And of course after this, neither Pete or Nick are even mentioned until the scene with Luke in S2E5. Besides, it's not like anyone would talk to Clementine about this woman that she'd never met anyway.
This theory does not hold up at all, it is just wild speculation.
Pete was just as worried and cautious about Carver finding them as the … moreothers were. He gives no indication that he wanted them to go back to Howes, nor that he had a radio or was talking to Carver at all. Carver didn't know where they were or else he wouldn't just be scouting, he would have shown up in force like at the ski lodge.
A locked cabinet and the Nicks mom plot hole (literally no one mentions her again even when they go to Howes) are not sufficient evidence to even sort of support this claim.
Some choices may not have much of an effect, but foreshadowing and narrative techniques can still be evident on the game. And unlike choices, many of these aren't optional and pointless.
Their house seems to be all over the place, so who knows why this was here. Maybe it was the only secure place to keep it?
Maybe. I pointed this out as it fits with the potential of the cabinet and that it allows every group of two to share a bedroom other than Luke, with Nick and Pete sharing the same room. @AgentZ46 (Seems relevant with your question as well.)
Plus, why would they give Pete the master bedroom, yet have Alvin and Rebecca sleep downstairs?
Possibly Rebecca had trouble getting up and down the stairs and preferred to have the downstairs bedroom as a result? She was fairly late in the pregnancy after all.
Posting this on Details from another thread on someone else's suggestion. Even if you don't agree with the theory itself, there might be som… moree details here to get you to think about.
I'm about to drop the hottest theory of 2017. This makes R+L=J look like chump change. Check it:
Pete was a traitor to the Cabin Group.
A well intentioned traitor, of course. Basically it all stems from this weird line you can get from Carver right here.
But following the rabbit hole a little deeper...
What motivation would Pete have to 'betray' the Cabin Group and in what form? Setting the time back at Howes prior to the group's attempted escape from Carver - Rebecca is trying to convince others to leave since she can't stand Carver anymore and wants to leave with Alvin. Rebecca involves Luke in the conspiracy, who is obviously close friends with Nick who is convinced to get out.
Pete, when approached about this, is mostly unsure and thi… [view original content]
Just wish you had the option to get on his good side. You never really get that chance.
Carver started off as interesting and complex character, and he just faded into being an unreasonable arse.
Before New Frontier premiered, I remembered how there was a theory about how the color of the wristband Clementine wears varies depending on which Season 2 ending we got. Is this true?
Just wish you had the option to get on his good side. You never really get that chance.
Carver started off as interesting and complex character, and he just faded into being an unreasonable arse.
There's a death scene in the observation deck where you actually get to see everyone get killed.
Bonnie, Mike, Jane, Luke and Clem. I tho… moreught it was kinda cool since it shows that Clem's is not the only one that's not invincible, for once.
It's at the 7 minute mark:
~
I am not sure about the origins of the picture, but it appears to be concept art for the controversial character of Season Two, Arvo.
It … moreis worth noting that his eye used to be wounded more than in the final version of his model. His original hoodie had a moss-colored segment that was scrapped and replaced for lilac. His jeans are also tainted crimson over the thigh.
When we're outside the mobile home, we can clearly hear Luke and Sarah talking
So, why can't they hear the car beeping when Clem puts the walker on the horn?
They probably did, but likely assumed it was just the walkers screwing around. Plus, they were too busy squabbling with each other to really think about anything else at the time, hence the herd being turned around on your initial attempts to get their attention by honking the horn.
When we're outside the mobile home, we can clearly hear Luke and Sarah talking
So, why can't they hear the car beeping when Clem puts the walker on the horn?
Not one hundred on this, but apparently Duck had more lines such as when he was being attacked by walkers and when Larry was paranoid about him in the pharmacy.
Okay, so I was looking for one/two of the pictures above and came across this as well:
I have never seen these before. Apparently, Sarah really did have more of a presence in this episode originally; guess that explains why she frontloads first 1/3 or 1/4 of the episode and then practically disappears till the end. Also, not gonna lie, those first and last ones are hilarious for the wrong reasons.
You know, I have to say, the chapter names for In Harm's Way are particularly good. Simple but clever/unique titles.
The chapter where Kenny gets beat down is 'Blind Eye'
Carver's death is simply 'Mush'
The final chapter of the episode is 'Entropy', for obvious reasons (look up what it means)
And I like the irony of chapters 2 and 3; 'Home Away From Home' for when you first arrive at Howe's, and 'Sunshine and Rainbows' for Sarah getting slapped.
Okay, so I was looking for one/two of the pictures above and came across this as well:
I have never seen these before. Apparently, … moreSarah really did have more of a presence in this episode originally; guess that explains why she frontloads first 1/3 or 1/4 of the episode and then practically disappears till the end. Also, not gonna lie, those first and last ones are hilarious for the wrong reasons.
David complained about Javier not being around much, but here's a fun fact Javier can rub in his brother's face he acts like a dick again. Before the ZA David was a family man, and took care of everything with their dad's illness while Javier was off somewhere following his dreams of baseball [and being crooked about them with the gambling business.]
4 Years since the ZA however, Javier is the one who has become the family man looking out for Kate, Gabe and Mariana, while David was off somewhere following his dreams of crooked branding cult poop, which led to his daughter being murdered and potentially his wife by one of his own men, which wouldn't have been the case if he'd just kept looking for them longer, if he did.
So suck on that you piña colada. Yo fucked up David.
You know, I have to say, the chapter names for In Harm's Way are particularly good. Simple but clever/unique titles.
Yeah, agree.d
And I like the irony of chapters 2 and 3; 'Home Away From Home' for when you first arrive at Howe's, and 'Sunshine and Rainbows' for Sarah getting slapped.
I like the fact that it makes Carlos look like a germaphobe helping someone up.
You know, I have to say, the chapter names for In Harm's Way are particularly good. Simple but clever/unique titles.
The chapter where Ke… morenny gets beat down is 'Blind Eye'
Carver's death is simply 'Mush'
The final chapter of the episode is 'Entropy', for obvious reasons (look up what it means)
And I like the irony of chapters 2 and 3; 'Home Away From Home' for when you first arrive at Howe's, and 'Sunshine and Rainbows' for Sarah getting slapped.
David complained about Javier not being around much, but here's a fun fact Javier can rub in his brother's face he acts like a dick again. B… moreefore the ZA David was a family man, and took care of everything with their dad's illness while Javier was off somewhere following his dreams of baseball [and being crooked about them with the gambling business.]
4 Years since the ZA however, Javier is the one who has become the family man looking out for Kate, Gabe and Mariana, while David was off somewhere following his dreams of crooked branding cult poop, which led to his daughter being murdered and potentially his wife by one of his own men, which wouldn't have been the case if he'd just kept looking for them longer, if he did.
So suck on that you piña colada. Yo fucked up David.
Im saying this because at the very least image 3 is, thats the scene from episode 5 if ben is dead. You can even see the dropped radio. Someone just swapped some season 2 character models into the scene
Okay, so I was looking for one/two of the pictures above and came across this as well:
I have never seen these before. Apparently, … moreSarah really did have more of a presence in this episode originally; guess that explains why she frontloads first 1/3 or 1/4 of the episode and then practically disappears till the end. Also, not gonna lie, those first and last ones are hilarious for the wrong reasons.
If you stay with Clem in S3 ep 1, you see Clem kill the guy who later is a walker with the brand you shoot.
However, you can see Clem clearly shot him in the head when he first died...
I think those are all fake.
Im saying this because at the very least image 3 is, thats the scene from episode 5 if ben is dead. You can even see the dropped radio. Someone just swapped some season 2 character models into the scene
Maybe I'm over thinking, but do you think they may have used the same scream for Sarita & the lady outside the pharmacy (season 1) as a symbolic thing?
Kenny let the pharmacy girl get bit and tortured by walkers, then in season 2, should Clem choose to chop her arm, his girlfriend Sarita gets bit and tortured by walkers
Also reminds me of when Kenny said "ain't no way this World is going to let my Son live when I let another ones die" (paraphrasing a little as I can't remember it word for word)
Maybe I'm over thinking, but do you think they may have used the same scream for Sarita & the lady outside the pharmacy (season 1) as a symbolic thing?
Eh, maybe? After all, Kenny does apparently wait till the last minute to put her down if you don't chop her. Personally, I think they just reused it cause it's jarring.
Kenny let the pharmacy girl get bit and tortured by walkers, then in season 2, should Clem choose to chop her arm, his girlfriend Sarita gets bit and tortured by walkers
Since when do Walkers torture people? They're pretty straight to the point from what I've seen.
Maybe I'm over thinking, but do you think they may have used the same scream for Sarita & the lady outside the pharmacy (season 1) as a … moresymbolic thing?
Kenny let the pharmacy girl get bit and tortured by walkers, then in season 2, should Clem choose to chop her arm, his girlfriend Sarita gets bit and tortured by walkers
Also reminds me of when Kenny said "ain't no way this World is going to let my Son live when I let another ones die" (paraphrasing a little as I can't remember it word for word)
That's a great way of looking at it, but if you honestly think TTG would put that much effort and imagination into their game then you are sorely misinformed.
Maybe I'm over thinking, but do you think they may have used the same scream for Sarita & the lady outside the pharmacy (season 1) as a … moresymbolic thing?
Kenny let the pharmacy girl get bit and tortured by walkers, then in season 2, should Clem choose to chop her arm, his girlfriend Sarita gets bit and tortured by walkers
Also reminds me of when Kenny said "ain't no way this World is going to let my Son live when I let another ones die" (paraphrasing a little as I can't remember it word for word)
Well they did use the same music for when Duck gets shot in season 1 and then when (if) Clem burns the picture of Kenny, Duck & Kat in season 2. Which I thought was a nice and similar sort of symbolic moment
That's a great way of looking at it, but if you honestly think TTG would put that much effort and imagination into their game then you are sorely misinformed.
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This theory does not hold up at all, it is just wild speculation.
Pete was just as worried and cautious about Carver finding them as the others were. He gives no indication that he wanted them to go back to Howes, nor that he had a radio or was talking to Carver at all. Carver didn't know where they were or else he wouldn't just be scouting, he would have shown up in force like at the ski lodge.
A locked cabinet and the Nicks mom plot hole (literally no one mentions her again even when they go to Howes) are not sufficient evidence to even sort of support this claim.
Nicely put together, but if the quotes people say in any Telltale Game were of any significance towards their actual emotions, well. Err...
Yeah.
Alvin: H-Jesus! Jesus-(coughs) don't make me laugh...hurts too much.
Luke: Ha..haha--Ow..! Ah, don't make me laugh, alright? Hurts when I laugh.
Before New Frontier premiered, I remembered how there was a theory about how the color of the wristband Clementine wears varies depending on which Season 2 ending we got. Is this true?
It's actually just dark grey, regardless of the ending you choose.
There were a number of different lines that were used as evidence throughout from different people - from the hidden kitchen conversation in E1, to Pete's attitude towards Clementine to how Carver can react to Clementine. I made that 'one piece of dialogue' that you point out prominent considering that's the line that led my thinking to this point. If you can't find it in your eyes to see that Pete might do this, then that's fine. I disagree, considering he's not doing it for malicious intent or anything, but some people can see characters differently.
A bit off topic here, but about you mentioning that the room with the closet being Pete's room because of the watch. Nick mentioned that Pete gave him the watch so that was probably Nick's room.
No?
If you read into it, Pete is weirdly apathetic about the circumstances surrounding Carver, caring much more for Clementine which can be a telling statement of his morality and priorities considering his potential knowledge of Carver. He has almost no reaction to the introduction of Clementine and her unproven implications with Carver in comparison to the Cabin Group - he doesn't share Carlos' distrust and fear that Clementine could go off and tell someone about them, nor the paranoia of Rebecca or Nick and not the clear anger and disregard that Alvin has for Carver. Even Luke, the nice guy of the group, goes on to question Clementine to try and find evidence of Carver "They didn't mention any names, right? They weren't searching for anybody?" Pete says one passing statement about Carver - a statement anyone could make after meeting him. That's it.
I never said he wanted to go back to Howes. I said he may not have wanted Rebecca to leave as it was more dangerous for her and the baby out in the wilds than in Howes as was the view of others like Reggie and Bonnie, but he leaves with her to keep her and his own family safe.
Pete himself may not have outside of his potential over-neutrality, but the plot becomes a lot more valid if you follow this train of thought.
Don't get me wrong, I get why you're calling this out - there is absolutely no physical proof at all that Pete's radio exists and if it weren't for the fact that Carver's group use them in S2E3 I wouldn't have brought it up as there's no precedent for it. But like how the radio itself can't be disproven at all, the non-existence of the radio can't be proven either. And because of the list of things that the radio clears up above, I'd say there's move evidence for the radio than against.
He was 'scouting' to make sure Pete hadn't deceived him and fled from the range of his radio. He probably sent his other people in the other three directions to look for signs of the Cabin Group in the case that they find any trace of them so that they wouldn't lose track of them if they decided to try and run for it the day before, hence why the inevitable confrontation was at the ski-lodge rather than at the cabin so Carver could regroup. It isn't a coincidence that Carver might investigate this the day after his guy failed to report in and considering the bandit attack in the river he had to take care of, he might probably feel restless that the two events were connected.
Why not?
Do you know that literally every observable item in the cabin has a purpose? Every one, save this. I can go through them all right now:
Locked doors/windows/trap door - Protecting them for intruders, showing the group's caution.
Duck photo - "...Duck."
Baby names - Proof that the room in which this is found is Alvin and Rebecca's room and their forethought into the baby.
Bathroom closet/bathtub - Prepares the player for a place to hide on Rebecca's inevitable entrance.
Risk board/Chess board - Shows that the Cabin Group have fun at times - it's mentioned earlier they play poker, so this is evidence to their character.
The Cabinet - ???
And it's not like I'm being overly obsessive over this - they could have made this cabinet not interactable at all, or better yet have Clementine open it and reveal there to be absolutely nothing in it. So is there another explanation? I can only think of two things:
Food? Surely they'd just put that stuff in the kitchen.
Medical supplies? Why would they split their supplies into two places, with the other being in Sarah's room? That seems like a recipe for chaos and time wasting in an emergency.
Weapons? I doubt it. Again like above, it seems like it would be chaos in an emergency to fiddle with a locked door. The most appropriate place for weapons besides directly on a person, I think, would be in the basement. And considering Carlos' haste in retrieving weapons for him and Rebecca before heading out to look for the others, I think this is reasonable.
Keeping the radio in the cabinet keeps it close, safe and out of sight. It's the perfect hiding place so long as Pete doesn't lose the key.
You know... Yesterday when I was drafting this, I thought the same. But it turns out as I replayed there is actually one line that is said after Carver's encounter with Clementine in S2E2 in the cabin. And I'm honestly not surprised that no one brought it up at all, because it's so well hidden that I can see how people just gloss over the line without thinking on it.
Alvin: "Guess he did have food. Man, fuck Nick. Nick's lost a lot of his people that's for sure. But that doesn't give him any excuse to start shootin' up strangers." 'His people' meaning Pete and his mom. It couples her together with his brother, and because Nick isn't involved in the scene most people basically move past it without a second thought.
As for why she isn't mentioned at all from S2E3 onwards... Well, Nick can be dead by then. Which makes him and Pete more or less irrelevant after Reggie mentions them. As an explanation for why Reggie didn't bring up Nick's Mom's name amongst them, why didn't he bring up Luke? It's possible that he either didn't remember them or he didn't want to rub salt in the wound by naming every person who's apparently dead now. And of course after this, neither Pete or Nick are even mentioned until the scene with Luke in S2E5. Besides, it's not like anyone would talk to Clementine about this woman that she'd never met anyway.
Some choices may not have much of an effect, but foreshadowing and narrative techniques can still be evident on the game. And unlike choices, many of these aren't optional and pointless.
Maybe. I pointed this out as it fits with the potential of the cabinet and that it allows every group of two to share a bedroom other than Luke, with Nick and Pete sharing the same room. @AgentZ46 (Seems relevant with your question as well.)
Possibly Rebecca had trouble getting up and down the stairs and preferred to have the downstairs bedroom as a result? She was fairly late in the pregnancy after all.
I wonder what role George plays in all of this, that guy for whose death Carver was looking for revenge.
Just wish you had the option to get on his good side. You never really get that chance.
Carver started off as interesting and complex character, and he just faded into being an unreasonable arse.
Great job.
That theory was started by @Lilacsbloom!
Just stroke his ego(and/or dick) and you will be.
CUZ DIS IZ THRILL-AAAA!
Well, of course! Not even that they could change!
It's almost as a symbolism of
YOUR CHOICES DON'T MATTER
Do you have a link to that?
Honestly, I want that one shot of her frowning for the camera during the loading screen.
I'm surprised this is the first time I'm seeing this. It's super cool!
Glad they changed his hoodie color though. xP
The ending scene of Episode 2 with the group at the entrance to Richmond looks remarkably similar to this:
Also if you don't break the Bonnie, ice dies.
When we're outside the mobile home, we can clearly hear Luke and Sarah talking
So, why can't they hear the car beeping when Clem puts the walker on the horn?
Because Telltale needed Sarah to die.
They probably did, but likely assumed it was just the walkers screwing around. Plus, they were too busy squabbling with each other to really think about anything else at the time, hence the herd being turned around on your initial attempts to get their attention by honking the horn.
Not one hundred on this, but apparently Duck had more lines such as when he was being attacked by walkers and when Larry was paranoid about him in the pharmacy.
Okay, so I was looking for one/two of the pictures above and came across this as well:
I have never seen these before. Apparently, Sarah really did have more of a presence in this episode originally; guess that explains why she frontloads first 1/3 or 1/4 of the episode and then practically disappears till the end. Also, not gonna lie, those first and last ones are hilarious for the wrong reasons.
You know, I have to say, the chapter names for In Harm's Way are particularly good. Simple but clever/unique titles.
The chapter where Kenny gets beat down is 'Blind Eye'
Carver's death is simply 'Mush'
The final chapter of the episode is 'Entropy', for obvious reasons (look up what it means)
And I like the irony of chapters 2 and 3; 'Home Away From Home' for when you first arrive at Howe's, and 'Sunshine and Rainbows' for Sarah getting slapped.
David complained about Javier not being around much, but here's a fun fact Javier can rub in his brother's face he acts like a dick again. Before the ZA David was a family man, and took care of everything with their dad's illness while Javier was off somewhere following his dreams of baseball [and being crooked about them with the gambling business.]
4 Years since the ZA however, Javier is the one who has become the family man looking out for Kate, Gabe and Mariana, while David was off somewhere following his dreams of crooked branding cult poop, which led to his daughter being murdered and potentially his wife by one of his own men, which wouldn't have been the case if he'd just kept looking for them longer, if he did.
So suck on that you piña colada. Yo fucked up David.
Yeah, agree.d
I like the fact that it makes Carlos look like a germaphobe helping someone up.
Well, we'll get the story on that when the second episode finally comes out. I'd hope.
Kenny and Luke: Butts heads with each other trying to be leaders/heroes; gets worked up about killing dogs.
If you stay with Clem in S3 ep 1, you see Clem kill the guy who later is a walker with the brand you shoot.
However, you can see Clem clearly shot him in the head when he first died...
I think those are all fake.
Im saying this because at the very least image 3 is, thats the scene from episode 5 if ben is dead. You can even see the dropped radio. Someone just swapped some season 2 character models into the scene
Ope, looks like another Randall situation.
WtF?! Guess that explains why Clementine in particular just doesn't look like she belongs in that scene. Bummer.
Maybe I'm over thinking, but do you think they may have used the same scream for Sarita & the lady outside the pharmacy (season 1) as a symbolic thing?
Kenny let the pharmacy girl get bit and tortured by walkers, then in season 2, should Clem choose to chop her arm, his girlfriend Sarita gets bit and tortured by walkers
Also reminds me of when Kenny said "ain't no way this World is going to let my Son live when I let another ones die" (paraphrasing a little as I can't remember it word for word)
Eh, maybe? After all, Kenny does apparently wait till the last minute to put her down if you don't chop her. Personally, I think they just reused it cause it's jarring.
Since when do Walkers torture people?
They're pretty straight to the point from what I've seen.
That's a great way of looking at it, but if you honestly think TTG would put that much effort and imagination into their game then you are sorely misinformed.
Well they did use the same music for when Duck gets shot in season 1 and then when (if) Clem burns the picture of Kenny, Duck & Kat in season 2. Which I thought was a nice and similar sort of symbolic moment
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