In regards to John's meeting you in Ep. 1 of the enemy within
I'm curious, how many people told him the card was not appropriate or accepted it? I ask purely at a psychological level and how you think his joy or frustration of it might effect him down the road. Also, be honest, how many people took the selfie with him?
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I told him it was thoughtful. Sure it was a ... Really bad card, but its the thought that counts
I accepted the card bc I thought it was sweet and I took the selfie bc I was so distracted my john that I forgot I was at a funeral lol. I'm hoping that this ain't some bait and switch situation where kindness to john ends up doing more bad than good.
I took the card and liked it and took the selfie. I want to be John's friend.
I asked him if he was messing with me. The card was not appropriate, nor was crashing my friends funeral and saying messed up things to his daughter.
I also did not get the chance to take the selfie, as he got upset and had an outburst when I wasn't interested in meeting his villain friends. I would not have taken the selfie anyways, as I play Bruce as a good man who was stricken by the loss of his friend.
Going against John's expectations seems to bring out a different side of him, one that is violent and unpredictable as opposed to friendly and desperate. I'm still trying to work out how I feel about John, but like with Harvey in s1 I feel like making him go full-on villain could be the more interesting outcome.
I accepted the card, because I want to be friendly with him and see where his character is going. I like it that he's not really the Joker yet. Would be nice if our choices how we handle him had some effect.. I'm honestly going to be a little disappointed if he goes full villain since they did that with Harvey. I didn't get the option to take a selfie though, cause I was hesitant to flat out agree to meet his friends at first.
...I loved the card, I took it and I was two fit away from taking him to dinner in the nearest restaurant.
I loved the card, but even though I don't know what are Telltale plans for that and every other acts of the sort ( like the selfie or letting him talk too loud during the funeral ), I personnaly hesitated to tell him it was inappropriate. Now, of course, I did not... but I thought it wouldn't be stupid to tell him it was innapropriate in an informative way.
If I personnaly find his card thoughtful and I think it's thought that counts, many other might feel like he is fucking with them and he isn't taking their grief seriously.
John's main issue is knowing what ''the rules'' are outside arkham asylum. If we go along with everything he says and compliment him regardless of what he does, he will never learn. I quote an actual psychologist when I say that some patients, during a therapy, prefer honesty. If we have the courage to tell them they did something ''wrong'', then they trust our words when we say they did something right. That's how they learn.
I don't think it's ''wrong'' to give your friend a card to cheer him up during a funeral ,in fact it's very thougtful but people don't always see it that way unfortunately ( especially in that specific moment when people are really sensitive ). The selfie however ...it's more obvious that it's not something people usually do and he should learn it because he will have a very hard time if he does not. Of course, I let him take it anyway because I am weak as fuck and I like what it says about Bruce.
I think it's more of a test for your Bruce than something about John. It's how much ''you'' look like him, how much you are also socially awkward, so what he does doesn't ''bother'' you ( Bruce ) as much as it bothers everyone else. That's why John says ''you and me we're two threads in the same stitch'' and that's why you get the chance to smile during the selfie. More than changing John I think it might change how he and everyone else will view you ( the same way the more reckless acts as Batman do ). That's very subtle these kind of things and you need to think about it. Choices aren't always supposed to have effects on other people or events it's also supposed to be shaping your character one way or another. How crazy is your Bruce exactly ?
"I told him the card was inappropriate."
*gets scolded
"Well it was."
I accepted the card because I was afraid he's going to make an even bigger scene on the funeral. I didn't get the option to take the selfie but even if I did I still wouldn't take it.
Accepted the card because I knew he was going to contribute to the story a lot so I wanted to be on his good side. But I didn’t take the selfie because I will always treat all Dave Fenoy deaths with respect no matter the character or game (I even felt bad for Finch in TFTBL).
I accepted the card but I told him its not appropriate.
I am still frustrated about Lucius. He didnt deserve that kind of death and with that kind of timing,also.
Who would say no to our biggest pal John Doe?