What do you think os Harley's representation in the game?
I'm surprised that no one has created this thread yet. I was quite impressed with Harley Quinn in Episode 2 preview, but after actually playing it, I can admit that it's one of the best versions of Harley I've ever seen!
The new trope they went with is amazing. I loved her role switch with the Joker. Usually Harley is portrayed either as a crazy naive girl who is constantly abused by her loved one or just a sexy psychotic bitch. While she actually has lots of potential. Telltale made a bold move by taking her character in an opposite direction - and they succeded. Harley Quinn from their game is reckless yet quite sensible and a great psychologist (despite what happened to her father). She seems very intelligent and a pretty good leader.
Harley has always been more sane than Joker, but in this game it really shows off. At first, her behaviour kinda annoyed me and I thought she'll be that crazy chick till the end of the game. But after that talk in her cabinet where she apologized (!) for harming Bruce's employee, I've really grown to like her. Her being the smartest, mentally strongest and dominating person in the group, along with playing as a mentor for John, improved her usual character a lot. I'm excited to see where our relationship goes.
Also not to mention that her design as absolutely stunning.
And what are your thoughts?
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I could tell you my thoughts but I would sound like a parrot, because I agree with you 100%.
They've managed to make her different enough that she, as a character, feels fresh. And with John being the one who's fighting for her affection, the possibilities are endless.
Nicely done, Telltale.
Haha, same. But I'm more skeptical if that conversation in the office and the apology was manipulation..
I think they've done an amazing job with Harley.
She keeps you on your toes and is unpredictable, as she should be.
But I really love that she and Joker have reversed roles. Usually Harley has to play down her intelligence because Joker has to be the genius, the mastermind.
She's always been intelligent in her own way (she was a well-respected doctor after all), but that intelligence really shines through in Telltale's version.
Telltale's done an amazing job with her so far, even if she is more violent than a lot of previous Harleys.
I can't wait to see more of her character in episode three.
If that was the case, she totally fooled me. And that makes her an even better character.
I agree with that too. I think it would be boring if every character was always honest, I like it when you can't really tell for sure sometimes, keeps you on your toes.
I love the voice acting for Harley.
I don't really see what she would gain from that. Bruce is trying to impress her not the other way around.
I LOVE HER! Seriously I'm so into it. Firstly let's get out of the way... she is so sexy. Now that's been acknowledged let's move on. I love her presence and her whole attitude. She's so playful and mischevous, yet she can be really intimidating. Iike that moment with Regina "Like I'm some kind of punch line or something?" She's so easily loveable and yet I can really take her seriously. Like I love Harley in the Arkham games but I hated what a joke she was and was so little of a threat.
Well, I have a problem with how she's trying to manipulate John by flirting with Bruce. And what I've seen it works (if you go with it) and I don't like it, that's why I don't fully trust her if you can understand. What does she want?
I'm hoping she's a character who can survive into future seasons. I'd be really interested to see what kind of dynamic we might get between her and John once he finally becomes The Joker, since this version would never fall into the same submissive role Harley generally falls into with her "Puddin."
No need to say anything since you did echo my thoughts exactly.
I think that was more of an impulsive decision. Holding Bruce's arm and she's all "Shit, what is this!?" it could be as simple that she's attracted to Bruce and not John. Purely in a physical way.
I have to say I loved that scene eventhough I didn't respond to her advances.. because of John! I can't do that to him, and she shouldn't lead him on. I'm totally pro John as long as possible
I really wanted to flirt back! But I didn't want to do that to John at the same time. IT'S NOT FAIR!!!
Exactly!! It's funny how I didn't like her flirting at first, AT ALL, but now that I've replayed twice she's growing on me.. but I will never do that to John, no way.
Like at this point when I'm playing Telltale games I'm like "Why do my friends have to be in love with the sexist women on the planet!?"
I mean its not Bruce's fault since he is a rich playboy that make every girl go weak at the knees, right ?
Yeah, I agree with you. Although I've never heard of Laura Post before, she seems to have a very fitting voice for Harley. When she acts crazy, her high-pitched tone sounds both cute and twisted, but her regular voice is also nice.
Honestly, this might me an unpopular opinion, but I don't like Tara Strong's Harley.
I gotta admit, this talk in the cabinet caught me off guard. I didn't expect this at all. Harley is a good psychologist so she could be manipulating us.. but I don't mind
I understand your pain. John is such a sweetie, hurting his feelings is a mistake, but resisting Harley's charm is becoming harder and harder. And that's only her first episode in the game!
They definitely took a chance on her character and it paid off BIG TIME. I always envisioned what it would be like if Harley were more dominant, and they played it well here with the background info they have. It's hard to say if she was in an abusive relationship in this version, but I doubt it. If anything, SHE was the abuser in her relationship, lol. And what's better is that it doesn't feel forced. It can come off as forced because John and Harley's role are quite literally switched, which can easily be seen as being different just for the sake of being different. But they made their dynamic believable enough to work and given their original backgrounds, it almost makes more sense and can literally serve as a fitting canon alternative.
Joker is a mental patient who isn't even a full year out of the asylum so it would make sense for a psychiatrist like Harley to be able to manipulate him. At the same time, it's that very job of hers that makes me NOT wanna trust her as much as I do. When she apologized, Telltale cleverly made sure that her certificate in Psychiatry showed in the background, slightly out of focus, but visible enough to glance at.
I hope she becomes a character like Selina honestly. A kind of rogue/anti-hero character that comes up in future seasons. And for the love of Alfred, do NOT kill her off, especially in a bad way.
It also helps that this is the best looking animated Harley I've seen. Injustice 2 Harley is a close second with her T H I C C ass , but I love Telltale's design more, and that strut of hers distracts me. And her dialogue, unpredictability, intensity, depth of personality and potential in character all make her out to be my favorite villain in this season, which has been amazing so far. But now Selina is back....
Menage a trois?? Selina? Harley? Actually, no.
Just give me my harem. Selina. Harley. Avesta. Hell, even Vicki, all ya'll can live me. Lmfao, Wayne Manor bouta turn into Playboy Mansion.
That parts fine! But bro code prevents him from going after them! XD
I'm very impressed with their version of Harley Quinn, even if I'm not always a fan of the art design for her. I do adore her, but occasionally the angles with those lines make her face look like it belonged on an episode of Botched with her cheekbones and nose.
Her voice acting is top notch. Laura Post captures the nuances and subtle changes in Harley's demeanor as fluently as her over the top emotional outbursts. The collaboration between the writers and the actress' delivery have quickly pushed Harley Quinn as one of the main highlights of this series. Her instability in hand with her intelligence make her a much deeper threat than she's ever been presented before. The presence in her performance does make it difficult in my steadfast mission to keep my friendship with John.
She's so chaotic, and the masochistic side of me had to replay on another save file just to see if down the line Bruce Wayne could be her puddin or earn a pet name of his own from her. I really want Bruce to have a relationship with someone that's not a villain in this series, and Catwoman wasn't even a mild temptation. For what they've managed to do with Harley Quinn, however, I've got to be on board when this train crashes to watch it explode in at least one save.
Great,fresh and unique.
Actually, yes. Yes please.
Please don't hate me for saying this but I agree with Jacksepticeye. I don't like it. I'm not super into the facepaint but love the hair and costume. I hate her voice, it's annoying to me. I hate her relationship with John Doe. It's actually almost spoiled the series for me. I don't get it. How did she become Harley Quinn?
I hate you for saying this.
I'm sorry, I really am.
I'm really picky when it comes to Batman. Add to that the fact that The Joker is my favourite character and was responsible in most iterations for Harley Quinn.
For me is the total opposite, as her own unique character is fine I guess, but as Harley? She's not Harley at all, I know in this game Vicki Vale is evil, John is not insane and Bruce parent's are evil, but saying this is the best representation of Harley when is not Harley at all, is just a new character, is not fair, not that you can't like it but is like saying "Evil superman is best superman because the old good one was boring", but the old one was the original, the real Superman.
Submissive naive Harley best Harley, the whole point about her original character is how she is obsessed with the Joker. now she doesn't have that, is like Bruce not wanting to be Batman because he doesn't care about "justice".
You're looking at it the wrong way. For me, it's the best representation of Harley because it's a new character. A new Harley. That's the point. What's the point of building a different interpretation if the creator isn't willing to break away from the original conception? If you look at almost every other Harley, they all have obsessions or past obsessions with Joker. They always stay too close to home for safety. Telltale's Harley steps away from all that. At least for now.
Before Harleen became Harley, she was first and foremost a psychiatrist who became such because she wanted to understand her own dysfunctional family. (Much like this representation as Harley became a psychiatrist to help her father). It has nothing to do with polar opposites or which is "boring". That's not the point. Telltale took Harley's origin and made more sense of it, at least to me.
She's not the popular representation you know of. But that doesn't mean it's not Harley. A character shouldn't be defined by it's original conception. It's how that character can evolve in the imagination of others that makes writing so fun and Telltale has done a wonderful job with that in both of these seasons.
On point! I couldn't agree more.
I seriously don't see why this harley is so popular I mean she's not all that different from Sucide squad Harley. As of matter fact this Harley just seems like a really edgy person who wants to appear bad ass so she puts on a front for the other pact members. At least that's the impression i got from her when she talks to us in her office in episode 2 and it really made me not like her character.It could be that i just dont like disingenuous characters but still the fact that she goes from being like im not really as bad as bane and freeze in episode 2. Then she's threatening to kill you in episode 3 im like bitch seriously make up your mind lol