Well, considering Nick Breckon returned to write the finale and Mike is given back some sliver of his intended prominence as the Leader of the Trio, I think we're good.
Though now that you mention it, it's very possible that Arvo, like Jane, was not created by Nick Breckon and thus he just worked with him as little as possible.
Well, considering Nick Breckon returned to write the finale and Mike is given back some sliver of his intended prominence as the Leader of t… morehe Trio, I think we're good.
Though now that you mention it, it's very possible that Arvo, like Jane, was not created by Nick Breckon and thus he just worked with him as little as possible.
So he gave Jane some sympathetic moments in episode 5 (like the story with the trapped dude and the holding AJ bit), but also made her a total idiot with the glass-eating and hiding baby thing?
Well, considering Nick Breckon returned to write the finale and Mike is given back some sliver of his intended prominence as the Leader of t… morehe Trio, I think we're good.
Though now that you mention it, it's very possible that Arvo, like Jane, was not created by Nick Breckon and thus he just worked with him as little as possible.
You know I never paid much attention to that episode description. Reading it, you can imagine an infinite amount of better possibilities over what we got.
Fucking pudding.
Also, I've established that two of those were likely written with Luke in mind. Guess which one it probably wasn't?
Honestly, after rewatching the episode a while back under a certain mindset(which I probably would/should've wrote something up on), I got the feeling that the way Jane turned out in that episode was a combinations of these factors:
After two episodes of being absent for whatever reason, Mr. Breckon returned to Telltale['s Walking Dead Game Writing Staff] to wrap up the Season he [inherited-ly] started only to find some of his toys had been ...moved around, to say the least.
He was told/mandated to include(read:shoehorn) Jane into the episode with top billing by the executives and just kinda had to go"...O_-kaay?!_ .... I can do that...."
Giving her Luke's role in the climax was the quickest(or rather, specified) way to do this since she's more or less a Shadowy Distaff of him and had already hijacked his dynamic with Clementine anyway.
Because Jane was a character he most likely didn't create(or on the off chance he did, had received far more prominence and characterization than he had intended), he had little to no clue how to properly write her and had a relatively limited deadline to meet.
To be fair, he likely did do some research on her to get an understanding of what had been established in his absence, but was ultimately limited in what he could do with her by either a) Simple time constraints, what with the last episodes (traditionally?) being released within a month of each other or b) More executive meddling.
Given all of this, and the fact that he supposedly went on record in saying that Amid the Ruins in particular would've been a very different episode had he still been around to write it, it's little wonder as to part of how we ended up with the shark-jumping that was Season 2.5.
So he gave Jane some sympathetic moments in episode 5 (like the story with the trapped dude and the holding AJ bit), but also made her a total idiot with the glass-eating and hiding baby thing?
You know I never paid much attention to that episode description. Reading it, you can imagine an infinite amount of better possibilities over what we got.
Fucking pudding.
Not gonna lie: I'm familiar with that app (come for the free coins in a Road To Survival offer, stay to see how stupid the Song Of Ice and Fire rip-off can get (A: surprisingly stupid!)) and I can assure you that situation never arises. In fact one of those character models is from a different book entirely. I mean, they reuse a LOT of C list characters and backgrounds, but jeeze. It's like if TWD promos had Bruce Wayne in them for some reason. Anyways... embarrassingly expansive knowledge of that app done.
Not gonna lie: I'm familiar with that app (come for the free coins in a Road To Survival offer, stay to see how stupid the Song Of Ice and F… moreire rip-off can get (A: surprisingly stupid!)) and I can assure you that situation never arises. In fact one of those character models is from a different book entirely. I mean, they reuse a LOT of C list characters and backgrounds, but jeeze. It's like if TWD promos had Bruce Wayne in them for some reason. Anyways... embarrassingly expansive knowledge of that app done.
That was my thought when I went to get that picture! Uuh-HA-huhahu!
That title card in general is hilariously bad and awesomely campy at the same time.
Why does Clem look like a short middle-aged woman[?]
I know, right?
Why is Kenny's torso twice the size of Tripp[']s[?]
… more
...Holy crap, you're right! I didn't even notice that!
Though while we're on the subject, what's up with ugly maroon jacket and the yellow boots?
Something like that, yeah.
Also, I've established that two of those were likely written with Luke in mind. Guess which one it probably wa… moresn't?
Honestly, after rewatching the episode a while back under a certain mindset(which I probably would/should've wrote something up on), I got the feeling that the way Jane turned out in that episode was a combinations of these factors:
* After two episodes of being absent for whatever reason, Mr. Breckon returned to Telltale['s Walking Dead Game Writing Staff] to wrap up the Season he [inherited-ly] started only to find some of his toys had been ...moved around, to say the least.
* He was told/mandated to include(read:shoehorn) Jane into the episode with top billing by the executives and just kinda had to go"...O_-kaay?!_ .... I can do that...."
* Giving her Luke's role in the climax was the quickest(or rather, specified) way to do this since she's more or less a Shadowy Distaff of him and … [view original content]
Although, I suppose that could also work if you change the Earthquake to like Moonshine or some other country drink and Jaime to Luke's mom/dad.
"time to give Jane a proper respectable backstory then." - nick breckon
Ch'yeah.
Also, I had no idea you could do the troll face like that. Good to know....
please tell me how, because I don't feel like using tv tropes which you obviously use a lot
They haven't identified her as such, but Jane is pretty infamously known for replacing Luke as Clementine's older sibling figure and in the climax of No Going Back, with some even suspecting she may have been planned to potentially do so during her designing phase. After all, she has a fairly similar color scheme.
However, if you consider how things would've played out in the grand scheme of things if she didn't return in No Going Back, then her hand in fucking over what was left of the Cabin Group becomes more intentional from a writing standpoint.
Jane is primarily known as an dark mentor for Clementine during Amid the Ruins, what with showing her a few survival techniques and attempting to push her down a more self-centered path, but it's clear in hindsight that she also was serving as this towards Luke.
Throughout the story, Luke, while definitely known as a nice guy and an up-n-coming leader who wanted to do right by the group he became in charge of, had increasingly shown to an involuntary predilection for more indirect and sneaky tactics compared to Carlos and Kenny and a tendency to cave in to less than heroic options, particularly when under stress. This ranged from dropping Clementine after suddenly noticing her bite, refusing to carry her when they were coming up to the Cabin(though he immediately revokes this claim when she starts to lose consciousness, hilariously), reluctantly going along(though he spent the house meeting arguing that they let her out and eventually convinced the others to do so after getting Carlos to confirm that she was likely telling the truth and enough time had passed anyway), muttering that he wished he and Clementine could use guns to deal with walkers before correcting himself, trying to cover up Matthew's death to protect Nick, sneaking into the Howe's to use his walkie talkie plan to get the group out in contrast to Kenny's methods, deciding to sneak out to steal some food when he was starving and groggy as shit despite the huge risk involved, and reluctantly pointing out that the group will have to leave him, Sarita, and especially Kenny if they want a better chance at successfully escaping.
This came to a head when he is the first one on the Trailer roof when Sarah was still to traumatized to move and shirked his self-appointed watchman duty to get some, both at Jane's suggestion. In between these events, Luke was beating himself up for not being able to save anyone(even if Clementine did get through to ) and choosing to put himself first on an impulse. Jane encouraged him to try not to let that stuff get to him and start thinking more about whatever he needs to do to ensure his survival. All this, combined with having already realized that Kenny was increasingly losing it and becoming potentially dangerous, was pushing him into a more openly selfish and underhanded way of doing things, which almost certainly would've fully come out after losing Sarah and Rebecca and led to him fighting Kenny to protect Clementine and AJ from him.
Basically, Jane is Luke(and Clementine) if he gave up on trying to be righteous and protecting the people he cares about in favor of doing whatever it takes to look out for himself and his interests.
alright, this is getting interesting. But I can't recall if you told me nick's whole story, why was he missing?
Nick the character or Nick Breckon?
Because if the latter, I don't really know. Presumably had another job to work on between A House Divided and No Going Back.
Glass eating?
o-kaay?!.... I can do that...."
"time to give Jane a proper respectable backstory then." - nick breckon
… moreshadowy distaff
please tell me how, because I don't feel like using tv tropes which you obviously use a lot
if he had been around to write amid the ruins
alright, this is getting interesting. But I can't recall if you told me nick's whole story, why was he missing?
that pic won't load for me, but that's a 4chan archive, isn't it? I can only assume the picture is the most vile thing ever, then.
It's that one mobile game where this dude is in bed with another dude and his girlfried/fiancee/whatever walked in. And the player, as the fiancee, has to choose how to react.
It wasn't the gif that gave off bad vibes, it was your "comment" under it. You could've said something else funny but you just had to say that instead. It's creepy.
Fangirl101 ...
Zombiekiller3121 Finally, someone who also sees how disturbing this is. Smh.
Zombiekiller3121 ... Sigh
Hey, blame RoboDickFreak! I just reposted it.
It wasn't the gif that gave off bad vibes, it was your "comment" under it. You could've said something else funny but you just had to say that instead. It's creepy.
Fangirl101 ...
Zombiekiller3121 Finally, someone who also sees how disturbing this is. Smh.
Zombiekiller3121 ... Sigh
Hey, blame RoboDickFreak! I just reposted it.
Comments
There was a meme like it for season 1?
That's great btw
Yeah. A while ago. Don't feel like digging back to find the page where it was at. So I'll just repost it. Not mine, btw.
As long as there's no Amid the Ruins writers involved, we good.
Well, considering Nick Breckon returned to write the finale and Mike is given back some sliver of his intended prominence as the Leader of the Trio, I think we're good.
Though now that you mention it, it's very possible that Arvo, like Jane, was not created by Nick Breckon and thus he just worked with him as little as possible.
Fed up with his shit the rest of the cast bands together to beat the crap out of Gabe
Holy shit, what the fuck is Gabe holding?! o_0
And Lee, for that matter.
Reinforced Katana by the looks of it, and a desert eagle for Lee.
Wow, Kate's love for him really does have no limits.
Also, good to know Lee is on good terms with Yosemite Sam.
Should of just killed him with the rest of his group, and continued onto the church town.
So he gave Jane some sympathetic moments in episode 5 (like the story with the trapped dude and the holding AJ bit), but also made her a total idiot with the glass-eating and hiding baby thing?
Why does Clem look like a short middle aged woman
why is kenny's torso twice the size of tripps
You know I never paid much attention to that episode description. Reading it, you can imagine an infinite amount of better possibilities over what we got.
Fucking pudding.
Something like that, yeah.
Also, I've established that two of those were likely written with Luke in mind. Guess which one it probably wasn't?
Honestly, after rewatching the episode a while back under a certain mindset(which I probably would/should've wrote something up on), I got the feeling that the way Jane turned out in that episode was a combinations of these factors:
Given all of this, and the fact that he supposedly went on record in saying that Amid the Ruins in particular would've been a very different episode had he still been around to write it, it's little wonder as to part of how we ended up with the shark-jumping that was Season 2.5.
I know, right?
...Holy crap, you're right! I didn't even notice that!
Though while we're on the subject, what's up with ugly maroon jacket and the yellow boots?
That was my thought when I went to get that picture! Uuh-HA-huhahu!
That title card in general is hilariously bad and awesomely campy at the same time.
When you and Kate smashin' and you hear the door open
You open the door and find Javi and Kate smashin'
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.
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♪Don't beat em, join em! (Dont beat em, join em)♩
Go Ellie.
Credit to @RavenSnowstorm
Not gonna lie: I'm familiar with that app (come for the free coins in a Road To Survival offer, stay to see how stupid the Song Of Ice and Fire rip-off can get (A: surprisingly stupid!)) and I can assure you that situation never arises. In fact one of those character models is from a different book entirely. I mean, they reuse a LOT of C list characters and backgrounds, but jeeze. It's like if TWD promos had Bruce Wayne in them for some reason. Anyways... embarrassingly expansive knowledge of that app done.
Don't let your comic memes be comic dreams!
That's...huh....
Anyway, yes, it's blatantly obvious that the gay guy does not belong in that scenario. And that just adds to the hilarious audacity of it.
Wasn't aware it had basis in anything though.
It makes it sound like they're implying the Garcias had a misunderstanding with the zombies.
It's the usual fashion of grieving fathers? I dunno.
Kenny's been bulking up though, that's for sure.
Glass eating?
"time to give Jane a proper respectable backstory then."
- nick breckon
please tell me how, because I don't feel like using tv tropes which you obviously use a lot
alright, this is getting interesting. But I can't recall if you told me nick's whole story, why was he missing?
tsk, look at that dumb impractical hairstyle
I thought that was gonna be Bonnie for a second
that pic won't load for me, but that's a 4chan archive, isn't it? I can only assume the picture is the most vile thing ever, then.
That's another part of it, sure.
Eh, kinda prefer him when he looked like a scrubby old rocker fan, to be honest. Hell, even his Season 2 desing looks better than this.
Glass eating.
Although, I suppose that could also work if you change the Earthquake to like Moonshine or some other country drink and Jaime to Luke's mom/dad.
Ch'yeah.
Also, I had no idea you could do the troll face like that. Good to know....
They haven't identified her as such, but Jane is pretty infamously known for replacing Luke as Clementine's older sibling figure and in the climax of No Going Back, with some even suspecting she may have been planned to potentially do so during her designing phase. After all, she has a fairly similar color scheme.
However, if you consider how things would've played out in the grand scheme of things if she didn't return in No Going Back, then her hand in fucking over what was left of the Cabin Group becomes more intentional from a writing standpoint.
Jane is primarily known as an dark mentor for Clementine during Amid the Ruins, what with showing her a few survival techniques and attempting to push her down a more self-centered path, but it's clear in hindsight that she also was serving as this towards Luke.
Throughout the story, Luke, while definitely known as a nice guy and an up-n-coming leader who wanted to do right by the group he became in charge of, had increasingly shown to an involuntary predilection for more indirect and sneaky tactics compared to Carlos and Kenny and a tendency to cave in to less than heroic options, particularly when under stress. This ranged from dropping Clementine after suddenly noticing her bite, refusing to carry her when they were coming up to the Cabin(though he immediately revokes this claim when she starts to lose consciousness, hilariously), reluctantly going along(though he spent the house meeting arguing that they let her out and eventually convinced the others to do so after getting Carlos to confirm that she was likely telling the truth and enough time had passed anyway), muttering that he wished he and Clementine could use guns to deal with walkers before correcting himself, trying to cover up Matthew's death to protect Nick, sneaking into the Howe's to use his walkie talkie plan to get the group out in contrast to Kenny's methods, deciding to sneak out to steal some food when he was starving and groggy as shit despite the huge risk involved, and reluctantly pointing out that the group will have to leave him, Sarita, and especially Kenny if they want a better chance at successfully escaping.
This came to a head when he is the first one on the Trailer roof when Sarah was still to traumatized to move and shirked his self-appointed watchman duty to get some, both at Jane's suggestion. In between these events, Luke was beating himself up for not being able to save anyone(even if Clementine did get through to ) and choosing to put himself first on an impulse. Jane encouraged him to try not to let that stuff get to him and start thinking more about whatever he needs to do to ensure his survival. All this, combined with having already realized that Kenny was increasingly losing it and becoming potentially dangerous, was pushing him into a more openly selfish and underhanded way of doing things, which almost certainly would've fully come out after losing Sarah and Rebecca and led to him fighting Kenny to protect Clementine and AJ from him.
Basically, Jane is Luke(and Clementine) if he gave up on trying to be righteous and protecting the people he cares about in favor of doing whatever it takes to look out for himself and his interests.
Nick the character or Nick Breckon?
Because if the latter, I don't really know. Presumably had another job to work on between A House Divided and No Going Back.
Cum and find me later... * wink *
Credit to @IronWoodLover
Is it?
It's that one mobile game where this dude is in bed with another dude and his girlfried/fiancee/whatever walked in. And the player, as the fiancee, has to choose how to react.
...
Finally, someone who also sees how disturbing this is. Smh.
... Sigh
Hey, blame RoboDickFreak! I just reposted it.
It wasn't the gif that gave off bad vibes, it was your "comment" under it. You could've said something else funny but you just had to say that instead. It's creepy.
And again, the comment was a joke of IronWoodLover's. I just reposted it for the lulz.
Agreed.
This was meant as a reply to @Zombiekiller3121
I blame you.
I'll never get your humor.
Me every time I come back to this thread and it's a bunch of replies back and forth
