The choice to steal the medicine or not from Arvo, so that Rebecca will be "okay" after the whole ordeal. That's what Jane says if you stay … moresilent, during that choice.
Sidenote: Why TF does Arvo only appear after Clementine shows up to the balony, regardless of whether not she goes to help Jane first or not?
Sidenote: Why TF does Arvo only appear after Clementine shows up to the balony, regardless of whether not she goes to help Jane first or not… more?
The same reason the Stranger can have one, two or three bullets in his gun depending on how you play the scene: I don't know
Didn't he have it loaded before hand? Where does he fire a third shot? The most I've seen is two.
EDIT: Forget that second question. Forgot about the walker that enters the room. Lee's a moron for dropping that gun like Javier.
Not to go too far offtopic here, but I must be the only one in the world that thought Javier dropping the gun wasn't that stupid.
Here's the way I'm looking at the situation: Javier already isn't trusted by any of these guys, and he just knocked out one of their friends. There's at the very least three other ones, who have already been alerted (Lonnie yells for the rest of them to come help). If the other ones walk in, see their buddy sprawled out on the floor, and this random dude they already don't trust holding a gun, they'd probably just shoot him without a second thought. If you were unarmed, however, it would marginally improve your chances of not immediately getting killed. I mean, it wouldn't improve the chances by much, but it'd be better than nothing as far as I'm concerned.
Now the other argument you can make is that maybe Javier could suddenly go all John Wick and kill the rest of them if he held onto the gun, but let's be completely honest here: that would be pretty ridiculous, right? For all intents and purposes, Javier has the disadvantage here; he is up against at least three other guys, one armed with a shotgun, in a small enclosed room. And yeah, I know ANF has a few scenes that play out like an action movie... but that would also mean this would be one of the few scenes that is played straight, and doesn't have a character suddenly become Superman. So in that case, wouldn't this technically be a good thing?
Didn't he have it loaded before hand? Where does he fire a third shot? The most I've seen is two.
EDIT: Forget that second question. Forgot about the walker that enters the room. Lee's a moron for dropping that gun like Javier.
If you were unarmed, however, it would marginally improve your chances of not immediately getting killed. I mean, it wouldn't improve the chances by much, but it'd be better than nothing as far as I'm concerned.
Guess Michelle was just very unlucky.
Considering the suspension of disbelief has been getting worse throughout each passing game, I can buy that second argument, if that actually was the case. Just like I'll buy Christa, Lilly, or anyone else that we haven't seen since the first two seasons, returning in TFS, if that does in fact happen.
Lee's a moron for dropping that gun like Javier.
Not to go too far offtopic here, but I must be the only one in the world that thoug… moreht Javier dropping the gun wasn't that stupid.
Here's the way I'm looking at the situation: Javier already isn't trusted by any of these guys, and he just knocked out one of their friends. There's at the very least three other ones, who have already been alerted (Lonnie yells for the rest of them to come help). If the other ones walk in, see their buddy sprawled out on the floor, and this random dude they already don't trust holding a gun, they'd probably just shoot him without a second thought. If you were unarmed, however, it would marginally improve your chances of not immediately getting killed. I mean, it wouldn't improve the chances by much, but it'd be better than nothing as far as I'm concerned.
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I mean, she did just kill the boyfriend of a somewhat temperamental pregnant lady. Compared to Javi knocking some random dude out. I'm pretty sure Max didn't have the hots for that guy, you know?
If you were unarmed, however, it would marginally improve your chances of not immediately getting killed. I mean, it wouldn't improve the ch… moreances by much, but it'd be better than nothing as far as I'm concerned.
Guess Michelle was just very unlucky.
Considering the suspension of disbelief has been getting worse throughout each passing game, I can buy that second argument, if that actually was the case. Just like I'll buy Christa, Lilly, or anyone else that we haven't seen since the first two seasons, returning in TFS, if that does in fact happen.
I chose that line on all 3 times (TWD S2 on the 360, Xbox One & TWD Collection) & I just love at how angrily & badass she delivers it while staring down the group for not trusting her.
I suppose. Still though Javier can cheat death by knocking out a man, whom the rest of his crew all consider "family", but god forbid, he doesn't open their door.
Actually, never mind. Max's dialogue at that part was too funny to pass up. XD
Guess Michelle was just very unlucky
I mean, she did just kill the boyfriend of a somewhat temperamental pregnant lady. Compared to Javi knocking some random dude out. I'm pretty sure Max didn't have the hots for that guy, you know?
Guess Michelle was just very unlucky
I mean, she did just kill the boyfriend of a somewhat temperamental pregnant lady. Compared to Javi knocking some random dude out. I'm pretty sure Max didn't have the hots for that guy, you know?
Gotta admit--didn't know about those lines. Just assumed he'd shoot you after 10 seconds or so of waiting.
Also, I love how no effort goes into Lonnie shootin him and how staying put in the junkyard doesn't seem like he was shot so much as fainted/bailed.
I suppose. Still though Javier can cheat death by knocking out a man, whom the rest of his crew all consider "family", but god forbid, he doesn't open their door.
Actually, never mind. Max's dialogue at that part was too funny to pass up. XD
What the fuck is up with that thumbnail?
Gotta admit--didn't know about those lines. Just assumed he'd shoot you after 10 seconds or so … moreof waiting.
Also, I love how no effort goes into Lonnie shootin him and how staying put in the junkyard doesn't seem like he was shot so much as fainted/bailed.
What the fuck is up with that thumbnail?
Teleporting Dead
Gotta admit--didn't know about those lines. Just assumed he'd shoot… more you after 10 seconds or so of waiting.
That's one thing I appreciate that has been kept throughout all the games; characters reacting to you just standing there like a jackass.
Also, I love how no effort goes into Lonnie shootin him and how staying put in the junkyard doesn't seem like he was shot so much as fainted/bailed.
Reminds me of how when Master Chief dies in Halo 1, where he acts like he's playing dead.
Teleporting Dead
And Clementine's controller-ready position?
That's one thing I appreciate that has been kept throughout all t… morehe games; characters reacting to you just standing there like a jackass.
That and some of the deaths. Always good for a laugh when you feel like fuckin about.
Another good one is in season two when you climb up the ladder to look out at the treeline and when you slip Luke is like, "You're fine, you're fine! Just look at me." And if you choose to look down Clem goes, "You look like an idiot."
Alright, how about some serious ones? I'm gonna try and go for a few of the less obvious ones, so bear with me.
Lee: You'll never get over today. Kenny: That's all I keep thinking. Lee: Try to think about what's ahead of you. Kenny: That's why I keep thinking it.
Vernon: You wanna know the worst part? I don't feel much. I mean, I don't feel enough. Shouldn't I be broken up over what happened to her? That's how I was when I lost my daughter, when I lost my friends in those first few weeks... But now, it's like I just take something like this in stride. Like this is what our world is now and we'd better just get used to it.
Jane: I bet Carver was a nice guy too, once. Probably had a nice job, and a nice pretty wife... then all this happened. And one day he caved some kid's face in and realized he could sleep at night.
The main reason I like that Jane one is because I think there's some actual truth to it. I think the slippery slope that leads to a normal person snapping and becoming something worse than they were is a lot simpler than people think. Hell, what Jane says here probably isn't too far from the truth. It probably just took a few bad things happening for Carver to realize he could live with it, and gradually ended up becoming that man we saw in S2.
In a similar vein to that Jane one:
Bonnie: I didn't believe you, when you told me about Reggie. I ran and found Bill after it happened. Figured if he'd done it, he'd make up some sort of excuse, but... Bill was just so matter of fact about it. Like he'd pulled up a weed or something, like it had to be done. And that's one of those moments when your blood runs cold. Goose pimples up and down your arm. 'Cause it turns out the person you thought you knew... was never there.
If anything, that sums up a psychopath pretty well. Imagine getting to know someone, to feel sympathy for them and to see them as a seemingly good, well-meaning person. Only to slowly realize that it was all just a facade. That the person you believed you knew never really existed; all along it was just some cold, detached killer. You can't tell me that'd be an easy truth to come to terms with.
Lee: I'm sorry. Whatever it is, whatever happened, you have to hear that I'm sorry. Stranger: That doesn't mean anything to me. I wish it did. I'm not a bad man; I don't believe in vengeance. But I've got nothing left.
Combine that with the Stranger's facial expressions and that makes for a pretty tragic line. It seems like he's desperately trying to convince himself of it while he's saying it. You see just the slightest bit of sanity/humanity shine through for a split second, before that darker side takes over again. The Stranger altogether is a pretty good depiction of a tragic monster; at his core, I think he's simply a broken man fighting a losing battle against his lust for vengeance and his own sanity.
Stranger: Do I look like a monster to you? Lee: We all do.
As far as I'm concerned, that is the only correct response to that question.
Carver: Whatever you were planning is over... it's done. You can't just run from your problems. You can't just up and leave when it gets tough, 'cause there's nowhere else you can go where it ain't. Tough is all we got now. Get that through your fucking skulls.
Again, a line with some actual truth behind it. He might be a brutal, darwinist tyrant, but this little speech does have a point hidden in it.
Lee: Stop thinking about yourself, man. You feel guilty; like you killed any chance of a miracle for Duck when you ran away from Shawn Greene. But there's no room for that shit. This isn't about you-- it's about a woman back there who needs her husband, and a boy who needs his dad!
One of the ways Lee can get Kenny to stop the train. This is personally one of my favorite ways to play the scene. And it's arguably the line that gets through to Kenny the most; his facial expression when Lee says that final part seems like a genuine moment of realization, that what Lee said finally got past all the shields Kenny was putting up.
Randall: Or maybe you think you can 'rise above' all that. But there ain't no heaven up there, honey. And there ain't no hell down below. There's only this shit, everyday until you die. And you know what's the fuckin' kicker? You get up, and keep walking... now that is some biblical shit, ain't it?
I like this line for the fact that it actually gives some insight into Randall. He might be an utter sociopath, but he still has his own thoughts on how the world works. He's basically saying here that good and evil don't really matter, because there's no one left alive to judge you. And all that's left is day after day in this world until you finally die... and even death isn't the end, since you'll reanimate anyways. Basically, the whole world is a constant purgatory/limbo. It's like a super dark version of "make the best of what life gives you".
Salvador: I'm gonna be a name carved in stone before you know it, Javier. That'll be me: letters on a rock that nobody wants to visit. I know you think you're strong enough to handle that alone, and so does your brother. And you're both wrong. You have to take care of each other. You two are all I'll leave behind, like Gabe and Mariana will be for David. Legacy, Javier. It's all anyone leaves behind.
Yeah screw you, I actually like this entire quote. It has that "father trying to teach some wisdom to his son" vibe to it. Trying to make Javier think of the importance that a person's presence has on the people around them. That when you eventually die, it's what you leave behind that ultimately defines who you are, and what people will see you as.
Jane: I dragged my sister across four states. And every morning she said she wasn't getting up. So I'd convince her, or push her, or goddamn carry her if I had to. Until this time... walkers cornered us. Forced us to the roof. And when they kept coming, I-I couldn't make her jump, couldn't throw her... so I tried something else; I told her she could have what she wanted, and I left her there. It killed me for a long time. But eventually I realized that I put her on a forced march through hell, when all she really wanted was for me to let her go.
For all the shit people give Jane, I like the insight this quote gives into the way she thinks. I don't think Jane's a completely terrible person, but she's someone who falls pretty squarely into the grey area when it comes to morality, and arguably leans towards the darker side. She's one answer to the dilemma of what you do you with someone that either doesn't want to or doesn't have what it takes to survive, but you still feel an obligation to protect. Do you try your best to protect them, to keep them alive at the potential cost and risk to yourself and those around you? Or do you make the difficult choice to let them go, which may arguably be more of a mercy in and of itself than continuing to drag them down a hopeless path? There's no easy answer to it, and it's actually nice to see a character who falls more into the latter option for once. It makes you consider a pragmatic argument that the series has mostly rejected/opposed up to that point. Not necessarily a bad idea... if only that episode expanded upon it more, or at least didn't try to paint it as being the 'correct' option, but simply an alternative answer to a difficult question.
And finally a Tripp line that is actually somewhat serious:
Tripp: I keep putting myself in your position. About Conrad, about all of this. Asking myself over and over whether I'd do the same. I'd love to tell you I wouldn't. I really would. But I can't. If someone threatened my family, I'd shoot 'em in a heartbeat. Hell, I'd shoot 'em twice, to make sure the lesson stuck. It's a complicated world, but at least there's people to share it with.
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Yeah, but Rebecca is amongst the worst when it comes to that.
Not always thoughtless. In fact he probably wanted to say that instead of not thinking of what came out of his mouth
All of the cabin crew were as far as im concerned
The same reason the Stranger can have one, two or three bullets in his gun depending on how you play the scene: I don't know
Again, she's the worst.
Didn't he have it loaded before hand? Where does he fire a third shot? The most I've seen is two.
EDIT: Forget that second question. Forgot about the walker that enters the room. Lee's a moron for dropping that gun like Javier.
Fixeddddd?
Ok, GCN.
Not to go too far offtopic here, but I must be the only one in the world that thought Javier dropping the gun wasn't that stupid.
Here's the way I'm looking at the situation: Javier already isn't trusted by any of these guys, and he just knocked out one of their friends. There's at the very least three other ones, who have already been alerted (Lonnie yells for the rest of them to come help). If the other ones walk in, see their buddy sprawled out on the floor, and this random dude they already don't trust holding a gun, they'd probably just shoot him without a second thought. If you were unarmed, however, it would marginally improve your chances of not immediately getting killed. I mean, it wouldn't improve the chances by much, but it'd be better than nothing as far as I'm concerned.
Now the other argument you can make is that maybe Javier could suddenly go all John Wick and kill the rest of them if he held onto the gun, but let's be completely honest here: that would be pretty ridiculous, right? For all intents and purposes, Javier has the disadvantage here; he is up against at least three other guys, one armed with a shotgun, in a small enclosed room. And yeah, I know ANF has a few scenes that play out like an action movie... but that would also mean this would be one of the few scenes that is played straight, and doesn't have a character suddenly become Superman. So in that case, wouldn't this technically be a good thing?
Protein shakes? Never really had one; haven't heard the best things.
GCN = GameCareNetwork
Guess Michelle was just very unlucky.
Considering the suspension of disbelief has been getting worse throughout each passing game, I can buy that second argument, if that actually was the case. Just like I'll buy Christa, Lilly, or anyone else that we haven't seen since the first two seasons, returning in TFS, if that does in fact happen.
I mean, she did just kill the boyfriend of a somewhat temperamental pregnant lady. Compared to Javi knocking some random dude out. I'm pretty sure Max didn't have the hots for that guy, you know?
“Still. Not. Bitten.”
I chose that line on all 3 times (TWD S2 on the 360, Xbox One & TWD Collection) & I just love at how angrily & badass she delivers it while staring down the group for not trusting her.
I suppose. Still though Javier can cheat death by knocking out a man, whom the rest of his crew all consider "family", but god forbid, he doesn't open their door.
Actually, never mind. Max's dialogue at that part was too funny to pass up. XD
Which is probably why they omitted Lonnie's death.
What the fuck is up with that thumbnail?
Gotta admit--didn't know about those lines. Just assumed he'd shoot you after 10 seconds or so of waiting.
Also, I love how no effort goes into Lonnie shootin him and how staying put in the junkyard doesn't seem like he was shot so much as fainted/bailed.
Teleporting Dead
That's one thing I appreciate that has been kept throughout all the games; characters reacting to you just standing there like a jackass.
Reminds me of how when Master Chief dies in Halo 1, where he acts like he's playing dead.
And Clementine's controller-ready position?
That and some of the deaths. Always good for a laugh when you feel like fuckin about.
Yes.
Read my fuckin mind!
Another good one is in season two when you climb up the ladder to look out at the treeline and when you slip Luke is like, "You're fine, you're fine! Just look at me." And if you choose to look down Clem goes, "You look like an idiot."
"Lee, uhh, weapon?" Is definitely up there. By far the best line from Carley. The emotion, the delivery.. EVERYTHING! Such a great line!
Alright, how about some serious ones? I'm gonna try and go for a few of the less obvious ones, so bear with me.
The main reason I like that Jane one is because I think there's some actual truth to it. I think the slippery slope that leads to a normal person snapping and becoming something worse than they were is a lot simpler than people think. Hell, what Jane says here probably isn't too far from the truth. It probably just took a few bad things happening for Carver to realize he could live with it, and gradually ended up becoming that man we saw in S2.
In a similar vein to that Jane one:
If anything, that sums up a psychopath pretty well. Imagine getting to know someone, to feel sympathy for them and to see them as a seemingly good, well-meaning person. Only to slowly realize that it was all just a facade. That the person you believed you knew never really existed; all along it was just some cold, detached killer. You can't tell me that'd be an easy truth to come to terms with.
Combine that with the Stranger's facial expressions and that makes for a pretty tragic line. It seems like he's desperately trying to convince himself of it while he's saying it. You see just the slightest bit of sanity/humanity shine through for a split second, before that darker side takes over again. The Stranger altogether is a pretty good depiction of a tragic monster; at his core, I think he's simply a broken man fighting a losing battle against his lust for vengeance and his own sanity.
As far as I'm concerned, that is the only correct response to that question.
Again, a line with some actual truth behind it. He might be a brutal, darwinist tyrant, but this little speech does have a point hidden in it.
One of the ways Lee can get Kenny to stop the train. This is personally one of my favorite ways to play the scene. And it's arguably the line that gets through to Kenny the most; his facial expression when Lee says that final part seems like a genuine moment of realization, that what Lee said finally got past all the shields Kenny was putting up.
I like this line for the fact that it actually gives some insight into Randall. He might be an utter sociopath, but he still has his own thoughts on how the world works. He's basically saying here that good and evil don't really matter, because there's no one left alive to judge you. And all that's left is day after day in this world until you finally die... and even death isn't the end, since you'll reanimate anyways. Basically, the whole world is a constant purgatory/limbo. It's like a super dark version of "make the best of what life gives you".
Yeah screw you, I actually like this entire quote. It has that "father trying to teach some wisdom to his son" vibe to it. Trying to make Javier think of the importance that a person's presence has on the people around them. That when you eventually die, it's what you leave behind that ultimately defines who you are, and what people will see you as.
For all the shit people give Jane, I like the insight this quote gives into the way she thinks. I don't think Jane's a completely terrible person, but she's someone who falls pretty squarely into the grey area when it comes to morality, and arguably leans towards the darker side. She's one answer to the dilemma of what you do you with someone that either doesn't want to or doesn't have what it takes to survive, but you still feel an obligation to protect. Do you try your best to protect them, to keep them alive at the potential cost and risk to yourself and those around you? Or do you make the difficult choice to let them go, which may arguably be more of a mercy in and of itself than continuing to drag them down a hopeless path? There's no easy answer to it, and it's actually nice to see a character who falls more into the latter option for once. It makes you consider a pragmatic argument that the series has mostly rejected/opposed up to that point. Not necessarily a bad idea... if only that episode expanded upon it more, or at least didn't try to paint it as being the 'correct' option, but simply an alternative answer to a difficult question.
And finally a Tripp line that is actually somewhat serious:
And I think that's enough for now.
Agreed
My favorite would be
Kenny: “I’m real glad to have ment you Clementine.”
That line tore my soul
"You're right, kenny was a monster." - love that line
Eh, I thought it was way overkill, personally, but okay.
My Clem: "I had a friend once, he had a wife and a kid, he was really protective. Most people just care about themselves. Never think otherwise."
"Put the gun down bitch!!!"
"So you put AJ in danger... And got my friend killed... Just to prove a point?!"
My favorite line is "..."