yea, I'm some sort of Hispanic myself. Or I've seen Carlitos Way one too many times. Either or.
No clue what you're going on about with the long term, but I'll concede you are unlike most of us here, we actually play the games we talk about. Good day, sir.
Carlos. That's the reference.
Oh yeah. Cause you're some sort of Hispanic yourself and thus would be to make under the vulgate jokes… more like that.
You really ride for that underdeveloped character while whining about Clementine.
I want you to consider what you just said there.
Think about why that could be and how the opposite case can become taken so awfully in in the longer term, independently or otherwise.
Also, hypocrite much?
You got some issues, kid. You should probably get some help for that.
Not anymore than at least half of my fellow members here. Especially since unlike most of you, I don't curse Telltale's very existence every other minute or hold grudges for minute "offenses."
Except for that one time. Which wasn't in the game itself. And honestly, I'd say I recently took a step towards dealing with that. Also, she jumped in and ignited it.
yea, I'm some sort of Hispanic myself. Or I've seen Carlitos Way one too many times. Either or.
No clue what you're going on about with t… morehe long term, but I'll concede you are unlike most of us here, we actually play the games we talk about. Good day, sir.
(I've seen someone else say this before) But your choices were pretty much:
Be With Jane - who didn't give a shit about the baby or anyon… moree else and just cared about Clem being her new sister
Be With Kenny - his top priority was the Baby, and tbh he wouldn't hesitate to get clem killed in order to save AJ
Be on your own - you see how both of them have the faults and you decide to do what you want
This may be biased but: I see it as more like a choice between Ultimate Survival and Loyalty.
Jane: Survival even at the cost of loved on… morees.
Kenny: Loyalty to your loved ones and willingness to die for them.
Idk what the alone ending would stand for tho...
I stayed out of it in accordance with Jane's wishes of leave her be no matter what. If she got herself killed in the process by poking the lion ? with a stick then that is tough titty for her.
She wasn't about to Rob Arvo of his medicine for the Cabin group? And at the end of the day, she was looking out for #1, because that's who you've gotta worry about the most.
I still don't see how that disapproves what im saying about Jane, as a matter fact you've proved that with your statement of "she was looking out for #1, because that's who you've gotta worry about the most." This is not the reasoning of someone who's good. Also she was still going to steal from him, I don't think it really matters that she wasn't going to take all of it. That still makes her a cold hearted bitch.
What? What are you saying? Ole dog was always being rowdy when it was uncalled for, and chased people away. Look at Luke. You know what kind of person it takes to bug someone like him, who's usually always in an good-ish ok mood? Someone like Ole dog.
Kenny had his moments yes, but for the most part. The people that kenny chased away didn't really need to be in the group the first place. And i'm assuming you mean Mike,Bonnie,Arvo who all showed their true colors anyway... And luke is a very bad example, luke was naive to the point of stupidity like having sex with someone while your supposed to be on watch. Endangering everyone in the group, kenny held his cool pretty well with what happened in that situation. I for one would have thrown both luke and jane out on their asses. There they've could have screwed all they wanted to, without causing any detriment to the group.
I meant in terms of her being a good person, it's true she was good at surviving. But in terms of her being a good person, she failed.
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She wasn't about to Rob Arvo of his medicine for the Cabin group? And at the end of the day, she was looking out for #1, because that's who you've gotta worry about the most.
Also being level headed isn't necessarily a good thing, sometimes you need a wildcard like Kenny on the team to get things done.
What? What are you saying? Ole dog was always being rowdy when it was uncalled for, and chased people away. Look at Luke. You know what kind of person it takes to bug someone like him, who's usually always in an good-ish ok mood? Someone like Ole dog.
So because you’re not willing to martyr yourself for others means you’re a bad person?
Also she was still going to steal from him, I don't think it really matters that she wasn't going to take all of it.
It’s not about whether she was going to take all of it or not, its about why she was taking it in the first place. She was in perfect health when they discovered Arvo’s medicine. She was stealing it for them
The people that kenny chased away didn't really need to be in the group the first place
You mean Mike? the guy who hoisted Clementine to reah the lader so that she could get the radio for Luke? And Bonnie, the one who easily could’ve told Carver what they were up to when she had no obligation to stay quiet? I think they deserved to be in the group.
And luke is a very bad example, luke was naive to the point of stupidity like having sex with someone while your supposed to be on watch.
I for one would have thrown both luke and jane out on their asses. There they've could have screwed all they wanted to, without causing any detriment to the group.
Please, name everyone who died because Luke and Jane fucked? Hid actions didn’t get anyone killed. Ole dog on the other hand got his friend killed, and can get Walter killed.
She wasn't about to Rob Arvo of his medicine for the Cabin group? And at the end of the day, she was looking out for #1, because that's who … moreyou've gotta worry about the most.
I still don't see how that disapproves what im saying about Jane, as a matter fact you've proved that with your statement of "she was looking out for #1, because that's who you've gotta worry about the most." This is not the reasoning of someone who's good. Also she was still going to steal from him, I don't think it really matters that she wasn't going to take all of it. That still makes her a cold hearted bitch.
What? What are you saying? Ole dog was always being rowdy when it was uncalled for, and chased people away. Look at Luke. You know what kind of person it takes to bug someone like him, who's usually always in an good-ish ok mood? Someone like Ole dog.
Kenny had his moments yes, but for the most part. The people that kenny chased away d… [view original content]
It’s a shame you didn’t intervene. Oh well, she had free will and chose to do as she pleased. Although it’s not like you can’t go back and rewrite history so that Kenny never kills her, right?
I stayed out of it in accordance with Jane's wishes of leave her be no matter what. If she got herself killed in the process by poking the lion ? with a stick then that is tough titty for her.
So because you’re not willing to martyr yourself for others means you’re a bad person?
Don't know where you got that from, I didn't even put she was a bad person she just isn't a good person. There is a gray area to her character, like a anti hero. though calling Jane a hero is pushing it.
It’s not about whether she was going to take all of it or not, its about why she was taking it in the first place. She was in perfect health when they discovered Arvo’s medicine. She was stealing it for them.
Even if Janes actions were altruistic, in wanting to steal from arvo. It still doesn't change the fact that it is a bad thing to do. Most bandit groups have that same reasoning of were going to take from you because our group needs it more.
You mean Mike? the guy who hoisted Clementine to reah the lader so that she could get the radio for Luke? And Bonnie, the one who easily could’ve told Carver what they were up to when she had no obligation to stay quiet? I think they deserved to be in the group.
Oh yeah Mike, the guy who sides with someone they just met and decides to steal from the group they've been with for a while. And Bonnie the one who will literally leave Clementine to to die, after you get shot by Arvo if you decide not to save luke and who also wants to steal supplies. All three of them, literally wanted to take the vehicle and leave them stranded. Yeah they totally deserved to be in the group, "sarcasm".
Please, name everyone who died because Luke and Jane fucked? Hid actions didn’t get anyone killed. Ole dog on the other hand got his friend killed, and can get Walter killed.
Just because no one died, doesn't mean that Luke and Janes actions were not irresponsible they still put the group in danger. And it's a good thing that nobody did die to Jane and Luke's stupidity. And if you want to play the blame game on who caused who's death. Jane is responsible for Luke and sarah's death in either case, she tries to convince Clementine to leave sarah to die. And her trying to steal from Arvo, causes his group to come find them, which leads him to getting shot in the leg, which leads to his death on the ice.
This is not the reasoning of someone who's good
So because you’re not willing to martyr yourself for others means you’re a bad perso… moren?
Also she was still going to steal from him, I don't think it really matters that she wasn't going to take all of it.
It’s not about whether she was going to take all of it or not, its about why she was taking it in the first place. She was in perfect health when they discovered Arvo’s medicine. She was stealing it for them
The people that kenny chased away didn't really need to be in the group the first place
You mean Mike? the guy who hoisted Clementine to reah the lader so that she could get the radio for Luke? And Bonnie, the one who easily could’ve told Carver what they were up to when she had no obligation to stay quiet? I think they deserved to be in the group.
And luke is a very bad example, luke was naive to the point of stupidity like having sex with someone w… [view original content]
''Jane is responsible for Luke and Sarah's death'' - Um, no, not really. She agrees with Clementine to not clump together because a person with common sense would know that the outcome is inevitable. Jane could also see how much of a liability Sarah was and thus again prevented an inevitable outcome. Have you not heard of the saying 'better safe than sorry'? Jane tried to save Sarah again at the Observation Deck and look how that ended up. It was Luke's fault for getting his leg shot; not Jane's.
So because you’re not willing to martyr yourself for others means you’re a bad person?
Don't know where you got that from, I didn't … moreeven put she was a bad person she just isn't a good person. There is a gray area to her character, like a anti hero. though calling Jane a hero is pushing it.
It’s not about whether she was going to take all of it or not, its about why she was taking it in the first place. She was in perfect health when they discovered Arvo’s medicine. She was stealing it for them.
Even if Janes actions were altruistic, in wanting to steal from arvo. It still doesn't change the fact that it is a bad thing to do. Most bandit groups have that same reasoning of were going to take from you because our group needs it more.
You mean Mike? the guy who hoisted Clementine to reah the lader so that she could get the radio for Luke? And Bonnie, the one who easily could’ve told Carver what they were up to when she… [view original content]
Considering you just jumped in without knowing the context of the debate at hand. Im not going to argue on whether or not Jane was responsible for those deaths, just as Im not going to argue how Kenny was responsible for Walters death. Did both of them play a hand in said deaths, yes and you can argue that as much as you like but it is a fact. They both had their roles in each scenario and didn't make the situation better, but fate was inevitable. This was my argument for what Dex-Starr posted.
''Jane is responsible for Luke and Sarah's death'' - Um, no, not really. She agrees with Clementine to not clump together because a person w… moreith common sense would know that the outcome is inevitable. Jane could also see how much of a liability Sarah was and thus again prevented an inevitable outcome. Have you not heard of the saying 'better safe than sorry'? Jane tried to save Sarah again at the Observation Deck and look how that ended up. It was Luke's fault for getting his leg shot; not Jane's.
Maybe that was wrong of me, but surely these threads are for anyone to have to say? Other users do the same to me and I have not made a hissy-fit over it. I am not arguing with you, but you are contradicting yourself by saying ''Jane is responsible for Luke and Sarah's death'' and then saying ''I am not going to argue on whether or not Jane was responsible for those deaths''. Do you see what I mean?
Considering you just jumped in without knowing the context of the debate at hand. Im not going to argue on whether or not Jane was responsib… morele for those deaths, just as Im not going to argue how Kenny was responsible for Walters death. Did both of them play a hand in said deaths, yes and you can argue that as much as you like but it is a fact. They both had their roles in each scenario and didn't make the situation better, but fate was inevitable. This was my argument for what Dex-Starr posted.
You don't know the context of me of what I posted. I only posted that because Dex-Starr, put how kenny was responsible for walters death. And if you noticed, I also put im not going to argue on if kenny was responsible either. You should know the context of an argument before jumping in, thats all im saying.
Maybe that was wrong of me, but surely these threads are for anyone to have to say? Other users do the same to me and I have not made a hiss… morey-fit over it. I am not arguing with you, but you are contradicting yourself by saying ''Jane is responsible for Luke and Sarah's death'' and then saying ''I am not going to argue on whether or not Jane was responsible for those deaths''. Do you see what I mean?
You don't know the context of me of what I posted. I only posted that because Dex-Starr, put how kenny was responsible for walters death. An… mored if you noticed, I also put im not going to argue on if kenny was responsible either. You should know the context of an argument before jumping in, thats all im saying.
I don't think so, but please tell me of these threads where I butted in to others debates without knowing the context. If you can't tell me, it just shows your lying and attempting to make me look bad which looks worse on you. If this is the case, sir or mam have some class.
Deflection is a horrible trait to have. xo
Do you actually think I am going to sit here reading every word you display online? I have better things to do with my free time and I am sure you do, right? I mean, you cannot even accept my opinion on Jane, so I am honestly not sure about you. Why are you undermining me thinking that I do not know the context of this game? You only joined this community a year ago, so you have no right to think you know better than me.
Don't try to play victim, you apologized and then decided throw shade at me. Don't make me out to be the bad guy. But if this is to much for you, than we can stop the discussion.
Do you actually think I am going to sit here reading every word you display online? I have better things to do with my free time and I am su… morere you do, right? I mean, you cannot even accept my opinion on Jane, so I am honestly not sure about you. Why are you undermining me thinking that I do not know the context of this game? You only joined this community a year ago, so you have no right to think you know better than me.
What is wrong with you? You are literally undermining me because you think you have the upper hand. I sarcastically 'apologised', hence the ''madre de dios'' part.
Don't try to play victim, you apologized and then decided throw shade at me. Don't make me out to be the bad guy. But if this is to much for you, than we can stop the discussion.
What is wrong with you? how am I underming you? And at the end of the day who cares, were arguing over a video game. Also I didn't know you were being sarcastic.
What is wrong with you? You are literally undermining me because you think you have the upper hand. I sarcastically 'apologised', hence the ''madre de dios'' part.
What is wrong with you? how am I underming you? And at the end of the day who cares, were arguing over a video game. Also I didn't know you were being sarcastic.
I Just wanted you to understand the meaning of my post, hence me saying the context of the argument. You seem upset about this, and I apologize if I offended you. But you should be clear on your sarcasm especially after you apologize.
Ay cojones. I understood your post, hence why I responded. A conversation is a two-way system and you have to accept other people’s opinions whether they are a Kenny-fanatic like you or not. Are you a troll or something? Why would I be upset over something so, so trivial. I just would like you to stop undermining me because you cannot accept my views on this discussion.
I Just wanted you to understand the meaning of my post, hence me saying the context of the argument. You seem upset about this, and I apologize if I offended you. But you should be clear on your sarcasm especially after you apologize.
The amount of people misunderstanding Kenny’s character in this thread is unbelievable. Some of you are saying he couldn’t care less for Clementine and would 100% let her die for the sake of himself or the baby which is complete and utter bullshit. Like when has Kenny ever proven that he cares more about Aj then Clem? All you see him do is sacrifice himself for both of them wether it’s the Wellington ending or the ANF flashback. He even gives AJ to Clem if you abandon him at the rest stop because he loves/trusts Clem more then himself or anyone for that matter. It’s like the people criticizing his character have only seen the Jane/alone ending and have no clue what they’re talking about.
Im not a kenny fanatic, you should learn what that is before throwing that insult at someone.Though you could be a janiac, you fit the description. Your whining about someone undermining you and not accepting your opinions. That's called an argument or debate, you should learn what that is no one has to accept your opinions if you don't accept theirs.
Ay cojones. I understood your post, hence why I responded. A conversation is a two-way system and you have to accept other people’s opinions… more whether they are a Kenny-fanatic like you or not. Are you a troll or something? Why would I be upset over something so, so trivial. I just would like you to stop undermining me because you cannot accept my views on this discussion.
You should learn how to spell and use grammar correctly before you throw insults such as ‘maniac’ to individuals. Actually, you should accept people’s opinions just as much as I accepted yours; yet because you think you know more ‘context’ than me, this is where this ‘argument’ is going.
Im not a kenny fanatic, you should learn what that is before throwing that insult at someone.Though you could be a janiac, you fit the desc… moreription. Your whining about someone undermining you and not accepting your opinions. That's called an argument or debate, you should learn what that is no one has to accept your opinions if you don't accept theirs.
If you spent any time on this fourm, you would know what a Janaic is. Your foolish enough to think that is an interpretation of my writing and grammar skills. Your ignorance is appalling, and you haven't accepted my opinion obviously. Hence you starting this argument and crying about things like 'context' because you have no base for your argument to stand on.
You should learn how to spell and use grammar correctly before you throw insults such as ‘maniac’ to individuals. Actually, you should accep… moret people’s opinions just as much as I accepted yours; yet because you think you know more ‘context’ than me, this is where this ‘argument’ is going.
Still doesn't change the fact, that she lost to kenny. And in both those times, at least Kenny didn't start asking someone to help him when they were losing like Jane did.
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For all those Jane haters, I hope you appreciate this amazing band and feel UNCOMFORTABLE:
No clue what you're going on about with the long term, but I'll concede you are unlike most of us here, we actually play the games we talk about. Good day, sir.
I knew that reminded me of something else!
How the mascot has been questionable and at least one point, insultingly handled over the years.
I mean, I've played everything beforehand except the Michonne DLC, but sure.
(I've seen someone else say this before) But your choices were pretty much:
Be With Jane - who didn't give a shit about the baby or anyone else and just cared about Clem being her new sister
Be With Kenny - his top priority was the Baby, and tbh he wouldn't hesitate to get clem killed in order to save AJ
Be on your own - you see how both of them have the faults and you decide to do what you want
This may be biased but: I see it as more like a choice between Ultimate Survival and Loyalty.
Jane: Survival even at the cost of loved ones.
Kenny: Loyalty to your loved ones and willingness to die for them.
Idk what the alone ending would stand for tho...
There was some unused text saying something to that effect.
Unused text?
Specifically, in the final choice data, apparently.
I stayed out of it in accordance with Jane's wishes of leave her be no matter what. If she got herself killed in the process by poking the lion ? with a stick then that is tough titty for her.
I still don't see how that disapproves what im saying about Jane, as a matter fact you've proved that with your statement of "she was looking out for #1, because that's who you've gotta worry about the most." This is not the reasoning of someone who's good. Also she was still going to steal from him, I don't think it really matters that she wasn't going to take all of it. That still makes her a cold hearted bitch.
Kenny had his moments yes, but for the most part. The people that kenny chased away didn't really need to be in the group the first place. And i'm assuming you mean Mike,Bonnie,Arvo who all showed their true colors anyway... And luke is a very bad example, luke was naive to the point of stupidity like having sex with someone while your supposed to be on watch. Endangering everyone in the group, kenny held his cool pretty well with what happened in that situation. I for one would have thrown both luke and jane out on their asses. There they've could have screwed all they wanted to, without causing any detriment to the group.
So because you’re not willing to martyr yourself for others means you’re a bad person?
It’s not about whether she was going to take all of it or not, its about why she was taking it in the first place. She was in perfect health when they discovered Arvo’s medicine. She was stealing it for them
You mean Mike? the guy who hoisted Clementine to reah the lader so that she could get the radio for Luke? And Bonnie, the one who easily could’ve told Carver what they were up to when she had no obligation to stay quiet? I think they deserved to be in the group.
Please, name everyone who died because Luke and Jane fucked? Hid actions didn’t get anyone killed. Ole dog on the other hand got his friend killed, and can get Walter killed.
It’s a shame you didn’t intervene. Oh well, she had free will and chose to do as she pleased. Although it’s not like you can’t go back and rewrite history so that Kenny never kills her, right?
Don't know where you got that from, I didn't even put she was a bad person she just isn't a good person. There is a gray area to her character, like a anti hero. though calling Jane a hero is pushing it.
Even if Janes actions were altruistic, in wanting to steal from arvo. It still doesn't change the fact that it is a bad thing to do. Most bandit groups have that same reasoning of were going to take from you because our group needs it more.
Oh yeah Mike, the guy who sides with someone they just met and decides to steal from the group they've been with for a while. And Bonnie the one who will literally leave Clementine to to die, after you get shot by Arvo if you decide not to save luke and who also wants to steal supplies. All three of them, literally wanted to take the vehicle and leave them stranded. Yeah they totally deserved to be in the group, "sarcasm".
Just because no one died, doesn't mean that Luke and Janes actions were not irresponsible they still put the group in danger. And it's a good thing that nobody did die to Jane and Luke's stupidity. And if you want to play the blame game on who caused who's death. Jane is responsible for Luke and sarah's death in either case, she tries to convince Clementine to leave sarah to die. And her trying to steal from Arvo, causes his group to come find them, which leads him to getting shot in the leg, which leads to his death on the ice.
''Jane is responsible for Luke and Sarah's death'' - Um, no, not really. She agrees with Clementine to not clump together because a person with common sense would know that the outcome is inevitable. Jane could also see how much of a liability Sarah was and thus again prevented an inevitable outcome. Have you not heard of the saying 'better safe than sorry'? Jane tried to save Sarah again at the Observation Deck and look how that ended up. It was Luke's fault for getting his leg shot; not Jane's.
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Considering you just jumped in without knowing the context of the debate at hand. Im not going to argue on whether or not Jane was responsible for those deaths, just as Im not going to argue how Kenny was responsible for Walters death. Did both of them play a hand in said deaths, yes and you can argue that as much as you like but it is a fact. They both had their roles in each scenario and didn't make the situation better, but fate was inevitable. This was my argument for what Dex-Starr posted.
Maybe that was wrong of me, but surely these threads are for anyone to have to say? Other users do the same to me and I have not made a hissy-fit over it. I am not arguing with you, but you are contradicting yourself by saying ''Jane is responsible for Luke and Sarah's death'' and then saying ''I am not going to argue on whether or not Jane was responsible for those deaths''. Do you see what I mean?
You don't know the context of me of what I posted. I only posted that because Dex-Starr, put how kenny was responsible for walters death. And if you noticed, I also put im not going to argue on if kenny was responsible either. You should know the context of an argument before jumping in, thats all im saying.
Kenny protected children while Jane hung herself because of children. That's all you need to debate
Never had an episode up to that point, make me put the controller down. Let alone 3 times.
You are right: I did not entirely read your post and I am sincerely apologetic for that. Madre de dios.
Oh and by the way, I just looked at your profile and you have jumped in conversations that were directly not for you, so please and thank you. xo
I don't think so, but please tell me of these threads where I butted in to others debates without knowing the context. If you can't tell me, it just shows your lying and attempting to make me look bad which looks worse on you. If this is the case, sir or mam have some class.
Deflection is a horrible trait to have. xo
Do you actually think I am going to sit here reading every word you display online? I have better things to do with my free time and I am sure you do, right? I mean, you cannot even accept my opinion on Jane, so I am honestly not sure about you. Why are you undermining me thinking that I do not know the context of this game? You only joined this community a year ago, so you have no right to think you know better than me.
Don't try to play victim, you apologized and then decided throw shade at me. Don't make me out to be the bad guy. But if this is to much for you, than we can stop the discussion.
What is wrong with you? You are literally undermining me because you think you have the upper hand. I sarcastically 'apologised', hence the ''madre de dios'' part.
How about we all come to the agreement that Jane is a god, and end this whole argument, ok guys/girls/non-binary human beings?
What is wrong with you? how am I underming you? And at the end of the day who cares, were arguing over a video game. Also I didn't know you were being sarcastic.
How can Jane be a god, when she lost to Kenny in combat? Kenny is the god of boats, and was able to slay the serpent Jane.
By saying I do not know the context of things. If you do not care, then why is it an issue that I responded to your comment?
I Just wanted you to understand the meaning of my post, hence me saying the context of the argument. You seem upset about this, and I apologize if I offended you. But you should be clear on your sarcasm especially after you apologize.
Ay cojones. I understood your post, hence why I responded. A conversation is a two-way system and you have to accept other people’s opinions whether they are a Kenny-fanatic like you or not. Are you a troll or something? Why would I be upset over something so, so trivial. I just would like you to stop undermining me because you cannot accept my views on this discussion.
I actually recall Clementine putting a hot one right in his gut, so I don't know what you're talking about.
The amount of people misunderstanding Kenny’s character in this thread is unbelievable. Some of you are saying he couldn’t care less for Clementine and would 100% let her die for the sake of himself or the baby which is complete and utter bullshit. Like when has Kenny ever proven that he cares more about Aj then Clem? All you see him do is sacrifice himself for both of them wether it’s the Wellington ending or the ANF flashback. He even gives AJ to Clem if you abandon him at the rest stop because he loves/trusts Clem more then himself or anyone for that matter. It’s like the people criticizing his character have only seen the Jane/alone ending and have no clue what they’re talking about.
Im not a kenny fanatic, you should learn what that is before throwing that insult at someone.Though you could be a janiac, you fit the description. Your whining about someone undermining you and not accepting your opinions. That's called an argument or debate, you should learn what that is no one has to accept your opinions if you don't accept theirs.
But even then she had help, a true god needs help from no one Jane is a false prophet.
You should learn how to spell and use grammar correctly before you throw insults such as ‘maniac’ to individuals. Actually, you should accept people’s opinions just as much as I accepted yours; yet because you think you know more ‘context’ than me, this is where this ‘argument’ is going.
If that's the case, you say Kenny's a god, but got his ass whooped by Lee and Larry.
If you spent any time on this fourm, you would know what a Janaic is. Your foolish enough to think that is an interpretation of my writing and grammar skills. Your ignorance is appalling, and you haven't accepted my opinion obviously. Hence you starting this argument and crying about things like 'context' because you have no base for your argument to stand on.
Still doesn't change the fact, that she lost to kenny. And in both those times, at least Kenny didn't start asking someone to help him when they were losing like Jane did.