Will Clem be determinant at the end of Ep. 4?
Do you think they will have Clem be determinant or do you think they will give her a single ending rather it is her living or dying? I personally think they should give her a single fate but with the way this series has gone I am sure they will go the determinant route.
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I feel she will end up being determinant. I kinda doubt the whole telling Aj to shoot you or not thing was there just for bait. However I do think there will be a way for her to live.
I feel there’ll be an ending where she and aj die and can stay dead or turn together as aj said, one dies but the other lives or both live
I really hope she doesn't but because it happened to lee, it's going to happen to her.
At least.
I feel like she’s gonna determinant, or maybe live no matter what with AJ being the character whose fate can change. I can’t see them giving us an ending where she’s gone for good.
The "what do you do if I get bit" conversation is the biggest foreshadowing of all time.
I would say at this point you're in denial if you think this isn't exactly what Episode 4 is going to entail.
I think the biggest foreshadowing was the mercy kill vs. let turn choice with Abel. I'm starting to think that Clem might not get bit per se but will be at death's doorstep due to something near the end of episode 4. A fatal gun shot (either by accident or on purpose), a walker bite, a fatal injury from a sacrifice; something determinate will happen.
And based upon my screwed up playing and dumb choices that I regretted 2 seconds later, my Clem is a dead girl walking. Clem is gonna die in my playthrough. I'm calling it, and I have 2 months and 10 days to come to terms with that.
Dam Son
Im torn. All the foreshadowing is so incredible obvious. It might be bait, it might be real. I hope that there a multiple endings, whit a living Clem and a living AJ. I would be kinda pissed if they would just recreate the Season 1 ending. But I would like it somehow aswell... I cant wait for episode 4, but its 2 months?
She will definitely die in at least one of the determinant endings.
With all the foreshadowing going on, it not happening in any of them is kinda anti-climactic.
I mean, you have her freaking hat just sitting on a rock ominously in the Episode 4 slide...
Personally I don't think she will, I think that all we have seen is building up to an emotional, but happy ending. And yeah, a Happy Ending can bring the tears and be highly emotional too.
Whatever the ending is, it has to be a happy one to be satisfying at all. Or at least bittersweet. This is the last episode of the Walking Dead we’re talking about
"Oh, but we thought people said they liked foreshadowing?"
I feel like they are foreshadowing Clem getting bit too much for it to actually happen but who knows.
I personally would like it if Clem would live but get different endings with different people based on choices
The writers may be trolling us. Imagine how devastating it would be if it turned out Clementine survived but AJ died; completely destroying her , failing the one thing she has left by letting him die. Our wish of her surviving would be granted in the worst possible way imaginable.
I honestly think they should just have her go to Oceanside or back to Richmond. Though at this point that kind of ending would be coming a little out of left field since neither of those communities have had hardly any mention in season 4 thus far.
We’re gonna find out.
Absolutely. There will be a scenario where Clem can die. I'm hoping they don't go for that bittersweet feel of ANF though where no matter the ending someone dies. If we did good with our decisions let us have that happy ass ending (note I say ending. The rest of the episode is fair game for turmoil and dread)
Happy ending? In TWD? The only "happy" ending you could ever have in this setting is the walkers going extinct or there being a cure for the virus, a thing only Robert Kirkman has full creative authority over and he isn't looking to end his cashcow series anytime soon.
The truth is, with walkers there will never be real "peace" or contentment, just little grace periods here and there.
it's either going to be sad or just bittersweet. Which is FINE. It doesn't need to be Disney.
They should force the player to do a great, GREAT sacrifice in order get the most "happy" or least bittersweet ending.
It shouldn't be an easy ending.
Not a happy ending per say, but a blatant sad ending would just feel like an anticlimax. Why did we go through all of this if it’s just gonna end with a bunch of death? It needs to end differently than the last three seasons to really feel like a full ending to the whole series.
I agree that a sad ending will need more than just death. It will need meaning. Which isn't impossible just because it also happens to be sad or really dark. Clem's death/lack of survivability doesn't have to be shock value, it can actually be the most strongly written thing of all time.
Because that's life. Just gotta live it.
No matter what the ending is it will probably be underwhelming. Mainly because the series lasted about two games too long. The Clementine series should have ended at the end of season 2 with either Clem being left at Wellington-Clem staying with Kenny-Clem staying with Jane at the Hardware store-or Clem going off on her own.
Those are the endings we should have gotten to Clem's story and either one would have been good ride off into the sunset moments for her. But nope. Telltale couldn't end Clem's story because they were going broke and needed her as a marketing tool.
And she failed them to.
I think the ending will be determinant. I think someone will have to die in all of them though. Louis/Violet, whoever you chose, AJ or Clementine will have to sacrifice herself so the others can live.TWD never seems to have a happy ending, bittersweet is the best we can hope for I think.
Nah I disagree.
Clementine wouldn't be much of a character to immortalize if her story just ended after Season 2. The reason anyone has cared this long for 7 years is because of the slow-burning progressive journey from game to game and our choices and decisions carrying over through all of it. There was too much unexplored with Clem to simply end it at S2.
Season 3, instead of what we got, should have fully starred Clem in trying to retrieve AJ back.
You must've forgotten the reception to ANF because literally everyone didn't want to play as Javi nor did anyone care about playing a character not named Lee or Clementine.
TFS actually is the finale Telltale were intending from the very beginning, if you read the interviews. They always wanted to end it this way.
We'll just have to agree to disagree then. Them continuing her story past season 2 has done nothing but harm the character. They were trying to tell story when there really was no more story left to tell. You don't believe me just look at what we are doing now. We spent an entire episode controlling a group of teenagers on their quest to blow up a boat.
So basically Call of Duty?
You mean a very kiddy and poorly thought out version of Call of Duty.
Isn't that like, all of the modern Call of Duties?
Who knows. In anycase we shouldn't compare real life war strategy games to choose your own adventure game about teenagers living in a zombie apocalypse. One is true to life. The other is only around because they wanted a teenage girl to be a leader of a group in a post apocalyptic world. You want a realistic version of how teenagers would act in a world like that go read the walking dead comics.
Well, to be fair, the concept is relatively unique.
Unfortunately, Season 2 definitely took a step down into the un-realistic route when they've made Clem do all these things that adults should have done instead. Still a good season though, in my opinion. Was engaging enough. Has damaged Clem's character slightly.
Then ANF came about... we don't talk about that. Clem's character was simply put, one-dimensional.
Honestly, TFS is doing what it can to salvage Clem's character to what it used to be, but I think it will run out of time to do so.
You could have cut out Season 2 and ANF and just go straight into TFS, and you wouldn't really miss that much. Even Clem's character would appreciate that.
I'm sure it was.
I could buy it if it wasn't meant to be taking place in the same universe (and roughly around the same time) that Carl and Sophia are out there surving. That is a far more realistic version of how kids Clem's age would be acting and being treated.
Clem's story just seems to have turned into a goonies version of a zombie apocalypse. A video game story about teenagers to be played by teenagers. Walking Dead isn't a teenage franchise so the two concepts kind of clash.
They always wanted it be a thematic bookend to Clem's story. That's why we see so many damn callbacks.
Eh, it's the hollywood symptom.
Season 1 was great because we've played as Lee. It made sense he would do all these things.
But because they've decided that Clem would be the main protagonist of the next seasons, they got stuck into a corner where the player was either helpless due to being a child, or completely overdo it with reliance on Clem at the expense of believability.
They obviously went for the latter. The game wouldn't sell if we played as Clem just to see all the other adults do all the actions without our involvement.
All of that was due to Clem's popularity, and the fact that they wanted to tie it into the TWD universe. (Aka no large time gaps allowed)
Maybe. I know most on here don't read (nor plan to read) the comic so the contradictory atmosphere's don't really bother them. But I still read every issue of the comic so the atmosphere of the game does irritate me. Would be totally fine if it wasn't meant to be taking place in the Walking Dead universe. But it is so that is why I don't really have much respect for this season even though it does have much better characterization than season 3 did.
I will always think that they never intended for this to become an ongoing series. I think if they did plan on it becoming an ongoing series they wouldn't have killed Lee off.
I don't believe Kirkman even counts the TT games as part of his continuity.
If asked the question he will always say it is strictly because he gets a cut of the sales. But you're right I don't think he bothers with the video games or novels that much. He takes the George Lucas approach where he says this is my story and that over there is their story.
Stupid theory but imagine if she got bit in ep 3 when that underwater walker grabbed her and she starts getting sick, then reveals her bite in ep 4 lmao idk how they’d do multiple endings but I’d prefer it