As the only other character in this story who has to do the tough choices I can relate to her. All the others, they don't have a clue what it is to bear the choices you've had to made.
Lily's been taking care of this group for the entire episode 2 and half 3. She had to ration food, make tough choices when nobody even wanted to vote and in the end they all jumped on her and Kenny even suggested that they leave her at the motel.
Ben and Kenny brought this on the group so the deaths of Duck, Katjaa and Carley are on their hands.
Yeah, Lily pulled the trigger, but there was a traitor among them. Carley again tried to slide away and be the cute girl who is always the good one in everybody's eyes. Well I guess she fooled most of you.
As the only other character in this story who has to do the tough choices I can relate to her. All the others, they don't have a clue what it is to bear the choices you've had to made.
Lily's been taking care of this group for the entire episode 2 and half 3. She had to ration food, make tough choices when nobody even wanted to vote and in the end they all jumped on her and Kenny even suggested that they leave her at the motel.
Ben and Kenny brought this on the group so the deaths of Duck, Katjaa and Carley are on their hands.
Yeah, Lily pulled the trigger, but there was a traitor among them. Carley again tried to slide away and be the cute girl who is always the good one in everybody's eyes. Well I guess she fooled most of you.
Im sorry man i could see in episode 2 how people could side will Lilly but come on she fucks you over no matter what. You could be on her side for everything and she still drives off without you. Seriously fuck her. And who made her an executioner? Get shot for possibly stealing supplies? Tad bit extreme don't you think?
Definitely. I'm, however, more intrigued by the reasons that made her do it. I do not agree with what she did, but it isn't only her fault. Kenny drove her to this mental state. I blame him even more than I blame her.
Also, nobody made Kenny an executioner but he did off Larry. He is the one that made her snap, she wasn't like that in the previous episodes.
Ohh ok I understand what your getting at now, took me a second haha. While I don't personally see it that way I could get behind that rational and see how you came to that.
You could be on her side for everything and she still drives off without you. Seriously fuck her.
Well yeah, but then again - to provide such freedom in the story development you would probably have episodes twice as big as the previous ones. It would be unique and I would love to see it. But that's something I haven't even seen in a triple AAA game lately (maybe Heavy Rain? But not to such a big degree). Just imagine how people would react if they were told that every episode would be postponed by at least another month...
The only thing with Kenny which actually fucked me up was his reaction after you tried to rescue Larry. But charma is a bitch, no?
We're back in my favourite thread Nice.
Kenny got what he deserved. It was sad for Katjaa though. Even Duck grew on me, with him taking the mantle of Robin and letting me Batman. That was cute
Kenny destroyed this group. It's all a chain reaction from his stupid actions in the meat locker. He was very quick to eliminate the threat but when it came to Duck HE SHOWED HIS TRUE COLOURS. He didn't hurry and drop a salt lick on his head, right? He chickened out when it was someone he loved at stake.
Have anything to say about that Sisterofshane? I'm eagerly anticipating your comments in this thread. Please PM me when you've responded :P
It may sound pretty odd but I'm still a supporter for team Lily.
Kenny abandoned me like too many times in episode 3 and once again was a irrational prick. He wanted to actually leave Lily in the Hotel just because he killed her father and hated himself. I mean... wtf.
It was sad to see Lily snap like that but I guess everybody pushed her. Carley should've been there for her instead of being all "on everybody's good side". Her flirting with Lee didn't help either I guess. In the end she stood for Ben who she hardly knew and once again ignored a very bad situation where our entire group almost got obliterated.
I'm actually more saddened by Lily leaving me than Carley dying. Would've been cool to actually invite me in her room instead of playing with me like a typical girl.
Everything you said there i agree with, especially about Lilly! She's been my favorite character since she came into the game, and i was so upset when she left, especially when i said i wanted to go with her, but when i stepped out of the RV she dipped on me!...I didn't even feel like playing anymore.
I am predicting though that we'll see Lilly again in a future episode, that would make this amazing game even better!
Guys, I have a question regarding Kenny and the events in the meat locker.
Did he tell Katjaa in your playthrough? Did you tell her?
In mine, he didn't. I guess he didn't think she would understand. He didn't think he had done the right decision.
In my playthrough Katjaa even asked me if I killed Larry after I told her I was a murderer.
How did you handle this out?
Guys, I have a question regarding Kenny and the events in the meat locker.
Did he tell Katjaa in your playthrough? Did you tell her?
In mine, he didn't. I guess he didn't think she would understand. He didn't think he had done the right decision.
In my playthrough Katjaa even asked me if I killed Larry after I told her I was a murderer.
How did you handle this out?
I trusted Kat enough to tell her Lee's "secret". She then asked Lee what happened in the meat locker. I told her Kenny killed Larry with the salt lick while Lee was giving Larry CPR.
With Kenny, I spoke to him as little as possible. He needs to go away. Not sure what to do with him but looks like he's tagging along in e4. I did not tell Kenny Lee's secret, no trust between us.
I also agree with your post #641 on this thread. Good post.
I trusted Kat enough to tell her Lee's "secret". She then asked Lee what happened in the meat locker. I told her Kenny killed Larry with the salt lick while Lee was giving Larry CPR.
With Kenny, I spoke to him as little as possible. He needs to go away. Not sure what to do with him but looks like he's tagging along in e4.
I also agree with your post #641 on this thread. Good post.
Thank you, mate. We likes of us are a minority here. Most are either Kenny's buddies or Carley-Lee romance suckers
How did Kat react when you told her about Kenny? I'm really curious. Might do a second playthrough just to find out.
To me this episode feels harder to replay. It's just that so much goes wrong...
Thank you, mate. We likes of us are a minority here. Most are either Kenny's buddies or Carley-Lee romance suckers
How did Kat react when you told her about Kenny? I'm really curious. Might do a second playthrough just to find out.
To me this episode feels harder to replay. It's just that so much goes wrong...
Her reaction was shock then she walked away looking depressed. Lee called her and she said " everything keeps changing" in a sad way.
I don't know how people can play multiple playthroughs of this game. I'm doing one and only one playthrough until the game is done. Then...maybe I'll go back and play the whole game again making different choices.
I actually find it really hard to make different choices. There are some that I just can't make.
Killing Larry for example. I just cannot stand that scene and I can never willingly put Lily through it. It would feel as if I let Ben take Duck away and smash his head with a big rock while I hold Katjaa's hands behind her back.
I can never side with Kenny for most situations as well. I just cannot accept his way of thinking and acting.
I can, however, choose Doug over Carley, I can let the brothers live, I can let the girl be eaten at the beginning of episode 3 and I can let Shawn die, but I do not enjoy doing it. It feels wrong.
True. If it's just an opportunity to do what you think is wrong just to see what it's like then I'll take a pass on replaying season 1 and just wait for season 2. But the game is not over...maybe other choices along with Doug next time would make it worthwhile.
Least Kenny doesn't turn insane and becomes judge, jury and executioner.
I honestly have no idea why people hate Kenny.
He was already insane and I'm sure he'll get even worse.
You do remember that he kept yelling "Leave Lilly behind" long before she did the thing that started your witchhunt?
Kenny puts my life in risk far too many times.
When did Kenny say to leave Lilly behind? Wasnt this when both zombies and bandits were attacking the camp and the entire group was in one exposed RV? Kennys family had just been attacked and he wanted to get them out of there ASAP. Also Lilly was nuts and was becoming a hindrance.
He endangers my life throughout the entire game. Seriously with all he has done to me, if the game allowed me I would've left him for walker food.
And yes he does yell "Leave Lilly behind" when she had just saved our entire group. Maybe she should've left him behind so the bandits can blow his brains out. At this point she hadn't done anything bad or extreme, the only murderer there was Kenny (remember Larry).
When did Kenny say to leave Lilly behind? Wasnt this when both zombies and bandits were attacking the camp and the entire group was in one exposed RV? Kennys family had just been attacked and he wanted to get them out of there ASAP. Also Lilly was nuts and was becoming a hindrance.
Also when exactly does Kenny endanger your life?
Lee says, "Lilly come on!" and Kenny replies "Leave her!"
He almost let me die on that damn farm, letting Danny St. John shoot me.
Then he was going to let me die in the Pharmacy when the door was on top of me.
Granted, none of that would have happened if I sided with him 100% of the time but I didn't so F*** Kenny.
There are too many, seriously. Watch a playthrough with someone that backs up Lilly.
He leaves me to die to the Saint John brothers even when I'm helping him rescue his family. That's because I didn't agree with him on killing Larry. Early in episode 3 he drops me on the car windshield, then leaves me trapped under a door and there were some other occasions as well. At some point I stopped counting.
Well I have a different Kenny who helped me lift the door, and is a genuine nice guy. Also Lilly didn't help me fight against the St Johns.
There's no point debating those sorts of things because it's tailored to your game. However doesn't Kenny save your life after Larry knocks you down? Even if you didn't support him? Isnt that apart of every game? Also doesn't Lilly go mental in every game? :P
Even if you save Duck instead of Shawn, and later save Duck and Katjaa in episode two, he will still leave you to die in ep 2 and 3 if you didn't help him kill Larry.
I just look at how Lilly was affected only because of her father and I can't help but feel really worried as to what is Kenny gonna pull on us. The deaths of both Duck and Katjaa will be too much for him to handle.
My prediction is that at some point he will get so depressed that he'll try to kill us all with words like "Lee, there's not hope and you know it. Better die this way than getting eaten by a walker. Do what's best for Clem, Lee! You got to back me up on this, Lee!"
He was already insane and I'm sure he'll get even worse.
You do remember that he kept yelling "Leave Lilly behind" long before she did the thing that started your witchhunt?
Kenny puts my life in risk far too many times.
Yeah, I love in episode three that he won't help you get out from under the door the walkers have pushed on you, if you aren't his BFF.
I just look at how Lilly was affected only because of her father and I can't help but feel really worried as to what is Kenny gonna pull on us. The deaths of both Duck and Katjaa will be too much for him to handle.
My prediction is that at some point he will get so depressed that he'll try to kill us all with words like "Lee, there's not hope and you know it. Better die this way than getting eaten by a walker. Do what's best for Clem, Lee! You got to back me up on this, Lee!"
Kenny hasnt turned paranoid or turning guns on people, no reason to think he's gone insane.Literally nothing.
And Kenny may kill himself but he wouldn't do anything to the others. He tried to tell Lee how to work the train in case he dies, so he obviously still cares about him and probably Clem. He wants them to do well after he has gone, not make some suicide pact.
I'm getting worried about this guy. Everything he has done up to this point has been for his family. What will he do now...?
I think Kenny will continue to voice the easy way out, while Clem is Lee's moral compass. I don't think Kenny's going to burn up like Lilly. I think his character deserves a little redemption before he goes.
Kenny hasnt turned paranoid or turning guns on people, no reason to think he's gone insane.Literally nothing.
And Kenny may kill himself but he wouldn't do anything to the others. He tried to tell Lee how to work the train in case he dies, so he obviously still cares about him and probably Clem. He wants them to do well after he has gone, not make some suicide pact.
In my story he left me for dead far too many times. I can never forgive him that, especially considering the fact that I always help and feed Robin. I even saved Katjaa for God's sake...and he just left me trapped under that door.
It's like I've done something bad to him. I tried to save a life at the meat locker... it's not like I killed somebody. He just hates me because he knows he was wrong back then. That makes him much more unhinged than Lilly will ever be. Give him some time... he hasn't yet fully realized the death of his family.
In my story he left me for dead far too many times. I can never forgive him that, especially considering the fact that I always help and feed Robin. I even saved Katjaa for God's sake...and he just left me trapped under that door.
It's like I've done something bad to him. I tried to save a life at the meat locker... it's not like I killed somebody. He just hates me because he knows he was wrong back then. That makes him much more unhinged than Lilly will ever be. Give him some time... he hasn't yet fully realized the death of his family.
He's thinking practically. Isn't it better one escapes with the supplies than both die? And he was probably thinking about his family. If he dies they have no-one to look out for them. We can't all be heroes, sometimes you have to just run.
Besides not immediately running to your rescue doesn't mean he hates you at all.
He's thinking practically. Isn't it better one escapes with the supplies than both die? And he was probably thinking about his family. If he dies they have no-one to look out for them. We can't all be heroes, sometimes you have to just run.
Besides not immediately running to your rescue doesn't mean he hates you at all.
He didn't run to my rescue at all, man. He just left me save my own skin both in ep 2 and 3. He also blamed me for for shooting the girl at ep 3. I guess our moral codes differ way too much for to be getting along.
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Lily's been taking care of this group for the entire episode 2 and half 3. She had to ration food, make tough choices when nobody even wanted to vote and in the end they all jumped on her and Kenny even suggested that they leave her at the motel.
Ben and Kenny brought this on the group so the deaths of Duck, Katjaa and Carley are on their hands.
Yeah, Lily pulled the trigger, but there was a traitor among them. Carley again tried to slide away and be the cute girl who is always the good one in everybody's eyes. Well I guess she fooled most of you.
Yeah I sided with Lily in a playthrough. Lily shoots Danny in like the arm or something.
Im sorry man i could see in episode 2 how people could side will Lilly but come on she fucks you over no matter what. You could be on her side for everything and she still drives off without you. Seriously fuck her. And who made her an executioner? Get shot for possibly stealing supplies? Tad bit extreme don't you think?
Also, nobody made Kenny an executioner but he did off Larry. He is the one that made her snap, she wasn't like that in the previous episodes.
Well yeah, but then again - to provide such freedom in the story development you would probably have episodes twice as big as the previous ones. It would be unique and I would love to see it. But that's something I haven't even seen in a triple AAA game lately (maybe Heavy Rain? But not to such a big degree). Just imagine how people would react if they were told that every episode would be postponed by at least another month...
The only thing with Kenny which actually fucked me up was his reaction after you tried to rescue Larry. But charma is a bitch, no?
Everything you said there i agree with, especially about Lilly! She's been my favorite character since she came into the game, and i was so upset when she left, especially when i said i wanted to go with her, but when i stepped out of the RV she dipped on me!...I didn't even feel like playing anymore.
I am predicting though that we'll see Lilly again in a future episode, that would make this amazing game even better!
Did he tell Katjaa in your playthrough? Did you tell her?
In mine, he didn't. I guess he didn't think she would understand. He didn't think he had done the right decision.
In my playthrough Katjaa even asked me if I killed Larry after I told her I was a murderer.
How did you handle this out?
I trusted Kat enough to tell her Lee's "secret". She then asked Lee what happened in the meat locker. I told her Kenny killed Larry with the salt lick while Lee was giving Larry CPR.
With Kenny, I spoke to him as little as possible. He needs to go away. Not sure what to do with him but looks like he's tagging along in e4. I did not tell Kenny Lee's secret, no trust between us.
I also agree with your post #641 on this thread. Good post.
Thank you, mate. We likes of us are a minority here. Most are either Kenny's buddies or Carley-Lee romance suckers
How did Kat react when you told her about Kenny? I'm really curious. Might do a second playthrough just to find out.
To me this episode feels harder to replay. It's just that so much goes wrong...
Her reaction was shock then she walked away looking depressed. Lee called her and she said " everything keeps changing" in a sad way.
I don't know how people can play multiple playthroughs of this game. I'm doing one and only one playthrough until the game is done. Then...maybe I'll go back and play the whole game again making different choices.
Killing Larry for example. I just cannot stand that scene and I can never willingly put Lily through it. It would feel as if I let Ben take Duck away and smash his head with a big rock while I hold Katjaa's hands behind her back.
I can never side with Kenny for most situations as well. I just cannot accept his way of thinking and acting.
I can, however, choose Doug over Carley, I can let the brothers live, I can let the girl be eaten at the beginning of episode 3 and I can let Shawn die, but I do not enjoy doing it. It feels wrong.
I honestly have no idea why people hate Kenny.
He was already insane and I'm sure he'll get even worse.
You do remember that he kept yelling "Leave Lilly behind" long before she did the thing that started your witchhunt?
Kenny puts my life in risk far too many times.
Also when exactly does Kenny endanger your life?
And yes he does yell "Leave Lilly behind" when she had just saved our entire group. Maybe she should've left him behind so the bandits can blow his brains out. At this point she hadn't done anything bad or extreme, the only murderer there was Kenny (remember Larry).
Still waiting for moments when Kenny actually endangers you. :P
Lee says, "Lilly come on!" and Kenny replies "Leave her!"
He almost let me die on that damn farm, letting Danny St. John shoot me.
Then he was going to let me die in the Pharmacy when the door was on top of me.
Granted, none of that would have happened if I sided with him 100% of the time but I didn't so F*** Kenny.
He leaves me to die to the Saint John brothers even when I'm helping him rescue his family. That's because I didn't agree with him on killing Larry. Early in episode 3 he drops me on the car windshield, then leaves me trapped under a door and there were some other occasions as well. At some point I stopped counting.
There's no point debating those sorts of things because it's tailored to your game. However doesn't Kenny save your life after Larry knocks you down? Even if you didn't support him? Isnt that apart of every game? Also doesn't Lilly go mental in every game? :P
Some things to note. Kenny never leaves you to die and he saves your life more often than you save his.
I'm trying to think of some time I actually kept him from dying and I can't think of one. I don't think there's even an opportunity to do so.
My prediction is that at some point he will get so depressed that he'll try to kill us all with words like "Lee, there's not hope and you know it. Better die this way than getting eaten by a walker. Do what's best for Clem, Lee! You got to back me up on this, Lee!"
Yeah, I love in episode three that he won't help you get out from under the door the walkers have pushed on you, if you aren't his BFF.
Kenny hasnt turned paranoid or turning guns on people, no reason to think he's gone insane.Literally nothing.
And Kenny may kill himself but he wouldn't do anything to the others. He tried to tell Lee how to work the train in case he dies, so he obviously still cares about him and probably Clem. He wants them to do well after he has gone, not make some suicide pact.
I think Kenny will continue to voice the easy way out, while Clem is Lee's moral compass. I don't think Kenny's going to burn up like Lilly. I think his character deserves a little redemption before he goes.
In my story he left me for dead far too many times. I can never forgive him that, especially considering the fact that I always help and feed Robin. I even saved Katjaa for God's sake...and he just left me trapped under that door.
It's like I've done something bad to him. I tried to save a life at the meat locker... it's not like I killed somebody. He just hates me because he knows he was wrong back then. That makes him much more unhinged than Lilly will ever be. Give him some time... he hasn't yet fully realized the death of his family.
He's thinking practically. Isn't it better one escapes with the supplies than both die? And he was probably thinking about his family. If he dies they have no-one to look out for them. We can't all be heroes, sometimes you have to just run.
Besides not immediately running to your rescue doesn't mean he hates you at all.
He didn't run to my rescue at all, man. He just left me save my own skin both in ep 2 and 3. He also blamed me for for shooting the girl at ep 3. I guess our moral codes differ way too much for to be getting along.
when he allows his infected son on the train
He's not. She's coming to the forums tomorrow :P We're all anticipating her arrival it seems
Lol, ive never heard the name. Is he a fellow diehard Kenny supporter?
I joined recently because I really liked ep 3 and wanted to talk about it.
Also Kenny saves your life in ep 1 even if you don't save Duck. Just saying.