Sam and Luke comparison.
Clementine is walking through the woods when she stumbles upon a skinny, well mannered dog. Together they embark on a mission for food. A few good times are shared, a pat on the head, playing frisbee, and slaying an already dead fellow. Then a turn of events, something is flung before the dogs face and the dog turns on its once friendly acquaintance. Foreshadowing Later that day... Clementine is stumbling through the woods when she falls into the arms of a strong, well mannered person. Together they embark on a mission to seek a safehaven. A few good times are shared, a nice sentiment here, a smile there. Now all I am waiting for is the can of beans...
ADDED: Sam's scene is hardly arguably foreshadowing, if you don't think it applies to Luke which character do you think will turn on us? What will be their reasoning?
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I hope your wrong I liked luke
You're supposed to like Luke. :P
The way you put it, Sam does seem like foreshadowing. 'No one can be trusted.'
Okay, Shaundi, this is the last time we are goin-
Wait, who the hell are you?!
Yes I do think this is foreshadowing aswell
I kinda feel like Sarah's going to be the one to eventually turn on you. Luke seems a bit too straightforward for that.
Lol I was going to mention her in the post, but decided that would diminish the point I was trying to make.
I think if Sarah turns on us it will be out of childish decission making, Luke is the one we trust... and no one can be trusted. Guess we will see
OR maybe they're trying to trick us into being overly paranoid and thinking that no one can be trusted so that we end up being the one who betrays someone because we wrongly assumed that they were trying to screw us over. Maybe the one who can't be trusted...is Clem.
Well played. Long Live Clementine.
maybe luk bites clem she kills him and finds a new group and then everything beginns from the start
You know what I am? An idiot. Clearly this hat is restricting the flow of blood to my brain.
Please disregard this post and continue your discussion as before.
Thanks again to Darth for reopening the thread so we can continue conversing over the future misdeeds of this Luke fellow. To add a new element to the conversation, if you believe he will turn on her, why will he do it?
Do believe it definitely is foreshadowing but maybe not for Luke could be for another character either, maybe Sarah, seems nice enough even if she is a bit odd and maybe she could turn bad like Ben in the comics
I'm not quite sure that Luke will be turning on the Cabin group. At least of his own free will. The only way I can see him betraying anyone is because Carver or someone would torture him for information or something. We'll see what happens when Episode 2 comes out, and if he gives us any reason to think he isn't all he's cracked up to be.
Wait a thread got reopened ... crazytimes.
But yes Luke seems like too perfect a character right now and I'm sure that means his inevitable death or some less likeable traits to become apparent, that said he in my opinion one of the few in the group who has a realistic attitude towards clem (after they realise she is not bit). Shes a little girl and Rebecca,Nick and Carlos both have quite extreme conversations with her . Nick I can undertand but the other two I dunno.
I see Sarah already as someone I wouldn't trust, because of how she acts (a lot like Ben, right?). I think it is someone we completely trust, and won't see it coming. They could have a growth between Sarah and Clem in the future episodes leading to a trusting bond between the two but as it sits now Pete, Luke, and perhaps Alvin are the only ones I would put any faith in. Luke at the top of that list.
Well Sam turned when a reward was flaunted (or offered) in front of him, maybe the same situation plays out with Luke?
Can I just point out how ironic it is that THIS post is partly what caused Darth to mistakenly close the thread?
On topic: I honestly do think that we, as Clem, are going to get the opportunity to betray someone.
He doesn't seem like that kind of guy. I mean, he saved Clem for no reason other than she was in trouble. He's too nice of a guy though, I agree with that, and I wouldn't be surprised if his character takes a few dark turns later on. The nice ones never last in TWD, like Pete.
I agree, except the only one I think has an unrealistic reaction to Clem (after she is proven not bitten) is Rebecca. Nick apologizes and tries to reconcile for his... nearly shooting her. Carlos is trying desperately to protect his daughter and never says anything an overly protective father wouldn't (at least in the ZA I would assume). Rebecca on the other hand is insane, even if she is deffensive and hormonal she is... out there.
Yeah, thanks a lot Dome
. I really hope we have to betray someone, maybe a 'choice in the matter but it still needs to be done' situation.
Depends on the reward. The life of a loved one, for example, is a powerful bargaining chip.
Luke is not what he seems. In Season 1, every main character was either flawed in some crucial way, or killed off in short order.
I personally don't think he'll intentionally betray Clem or the group... But the fact that he throws a little girl on the ground out of fear makes me think that fear may be his tragic flaw. I think if he does end up betraying anyone, it will be because he's too frightened to act at that moment, and acts to save himself.
He doesn't seem capable of calculated betrayal... That is, unless he's a high-functioning sociopath who is extremely good at feigning empathy.
I agree 100%... Rebecca just seems to let her hormones control her waaay too much... I mean, telling an 11 year old to "shut her fucking mouth"?? (even though I was like yeah Clem, you tell off that crazy hostile pregnant woman)
More comparable to Ben than Nick is to Ben then.
Hehe same here, normally I am nice when speaking as Clem, but I just couldn't do it in that situation...
Agreed. In that situation, I might see it, but Luke has no loved ones as far as we know. Just the group.
Tell me about it... I have no fricking idea what the hell her problem with Clem is. I'd understand if Clem was a twenty something year old...
True, but there are a lot of things we don't know. Like, what is his tolerance for pain? The promise of an end to torture is another powerful reward.
I strongly doubt this thread is even remotely on the same level as the last several Luke threads, but juuust in caaase, I'd like to ask that you all behave. This thread seems fine so far so I strongly doubt anything bad will happen, but I just wanted to play it safe and throw that out there. Thanks.
As for the Sam/Luke comparison, I think it would be cool to have Telltale pull the rug from under our feet and have Luke go bad on us, but I think for now that Luke will be a valuable influence for Clem.
Animal instincts - I think this is what sets Sam and Luke apart. Animals mainly rely on instinct and are incapable of self-control the way humans do. In this case, hunger is what drives Sam's instincts to look for food. He's also been in the wild for a long time so it's likely that his part of being a domesticated pet was long gone. He attacked Clem because he considered her as a threat to his survival, after getting the can of beans back.
I don't think this is considered as an act of betrayal.
It's more of a symbolism thing. Sam may not have considered it an act of betrayal (probably because he can't comprehend abstract concepts), but from Clem's and potentially the player's point of view, feeding Sam and then having him attack her out of nowhere probably feels a lot like betrayal. I've said this before but Sam literally bit the hand that fed him (well, arm but close enough), and that has to be foreshadowing of something.
If you hesitate about becoming friends with Sarah, Clementine can say something like "I'm worried about saying I'll be friends and then having to do something not friendly"; I thought she was thinking about Sam when she said that.
Good idea. Though this means we should suspect anyoneand everyone which kind of makes any decent character's character development just possible lies. Which could take the fun away sometimes
Haha, yeah... Maybe he's Ben's third cousin twice removed.
To me speculating on anything for an upcoming game runs the risk of taking fun out of the game since if the assumption is correct you already see it coming
If the Sam scene is supposed to be some kind of foreshadowing, wouldn't Nick seem more likely to be the "human Sam"?
Afterall, Sam did start off growling at Clementine, same as Nick.
Luke gave no such warning.
That is the creepiest avatar I have ever seen. Looks like something straight out of Amnesia.
Thanks (I think).
I overdosed on Clem's cuteness and reacted badly. I'm sorrry.