Turkeys are adorable! And taste great on a slice of bread! This one is more like a rubber chicken than a turkey though... un-funny, good-for-nothing and tastes bland.
As far as conversations go, being matured at a younger age, and having people SEE you as a child and talk to you like a child because you ARE a child are two different things. Are you going to argue that with me? They treated her like a child the entire game. Now whether or not she acts like a child, perceives the world like a child, or thinks like an adult or whatever, people you come across will SEE her as a child.
What don't you get about this?
I'm not saying its a terrible call or something by Telltale, but I am saying it COULD make the sequel inferior to the first season. Sorry if that doesn't coincide with your thoughts.
Clem didn't do any of that in one hit, why don't you stand around with your head held in the right height 'til a 9 year old girl [or 11 now] b… moreashes you with a bat or steel hammer with all her strenght for about 5 or 6 times?
I'm pretty damn sure it would break something. Children CAN hurt you if they want to.
@Vainamoinen
LOL, if the gaming industry were to listen to you it would go bankrupt within 2 years.
I can't stand immersion breaking games… more where you are forced to play as a female like Mirror's Edge, Tomb Raider, Transistor, etc.. It completely puts you out of it and makes you feel like an observer.
And playing as a little girl is even worse than that, developers here are completely clueless.
Don't know where BioWare collects those statistics. Flyover states? Certainly not from my personal computer, that much is certain.
Electro… morenic Arts has a history of boasting with their stance towards gender issues at every possible opportunity. They are literally issuing press releases about how fast female NPC designs are approved by the management for the Mass Effect franchise. When they're being voted worst company in America twice in a row, they see it as the homophobes' reaction to their portrayal of LGBT characters in game. One thing is certain, though: Bioware does what Bioware thinks is popular among their gamers. If they really thought only 18% would choose a female Shepard, they would have abandonned the character by the second game.
In this forum, you'd certainly find a rather different balance. I've specifically even read the stance here that male Shepard just has an unbearably bland voice and should therewith be excluded from M… [view original content]
This is your second thread in which you state how much you dislike The Walking Dead. If you don't like it, may I ask why you're hear, on a dis… morecussion board for the game, talking about it?
As to your post... they made Clementine the protagonist in this one because the vast majority of people have grown very attached to her and want to see what happens next to her. It makes good creative - and business - sense.
I'm sure that it doesn't for girls, or for that matter, the vast majority of any gender who plays games. If what you're saying were true, those games would not exist.
@Vainamoinen
LOL, if the gaming industry were to listen to you it would go bankrupt within 2 years.
I can't stand immersion breaking games… more where you are forced to play as a female like Mirror's Edge, Tomb Raider, Transistor, etc.. It completely puts you out of it and makes you feel like an observer.
And playing as a little girl is even worse than that, developers here are completely clueless.
Well... Technically it could. There's nothing to stop Telltale from creating an alternate version of Daryl within their own Walking dead Universe. Similar to how there are 2 Ricks. One in the AMC Universe, and one in the Telltale/Skybound Universe.
The question, is why would they do that? Would it move the story forward at all, or would it be a massive piece of fan service.
I mean, if there was a reason to have Daryl in the game, I'd be okay with it, if not, then I'd honestly be disappointed.
It's funny that it's only the guys that seem to have some issue playing a character that's the opposite gender.
Playing Lee didn't feel str… moreange at all to me. And I've never had problems with playing male characters before.
I wish I could understand what makes you guys so against playing a female.
As for the "Clementine could have been a boy" thing, I feel that would just make her too similar to Carl Grimes.
So if you want a little boy protagonist, you can always just read the comics or watch the show...
Well, it DID show up in my feed as a reply to my post, so that is something.
Not sure who necroed this thread, but I do have to add something concerning EA's statistics about the percentage of female shepard players... advertising bias.
It's such a shame now that whenever I hear "Bioware" the first thing that pop's in my head is they made the worst game ending since Polybius.
I used to love Mass effect, ahh the nostalgia....
Don't know where BioWare collects those statistics. Flyover states? Certainly not from my personal computer, that much is certain.
Electro… morenic Arts has a history of boasting with their stance towards gender issues at every possible opportunity. They are literally issuing press releases about how fast female NPC designs are approved by the management for the Mass Effect franchise. When they're being voted worst company in America twice in a row, they see it as the homophobes' reaction to their portrayal of LGBT characters in game. One thing is certain, though: Bioware does what Bioware thinks is popular among their gamers. If they really thought only 18% would choose a female Shepard, they would have abandonned the character by the second game.
In this forum, you'd certainly find a rather different balance. I've specifically even read the stance here that male Shepard just has an unbearably bland voice and should therewith be excluded from M… [view original content]
Ive been playing video games since I was little and I got the taste from my mother so I am always glad to see other girl gamers around. We have a variety of tastes not just female-centric ones.
Exactly! Personally I like any game that gives me the option of putting myself in the place of the character, making choices from their point of view rather than my own.
I play games to relax and to unload stress and just for fun. I don't always want to be Biotic charging hoardes of enemies, not that that's not fun, but I love more realistic theoretical situations you get from RPG and such.
What I admire about Tell Tale is it's not your classic RPG, it's entirely character driven, so while your taking part in a story that you can't really control (just like real life) the way your PC approaches these scenarios is entirely up to you, but also driven by the characters pre-existing personality.
Few games have the attention to character devolopment that Tell Tale does and personally I'm happy to play as Clem, it gives me the chance to look at the world from a different perspective than an adult male, which I am.
The options available to Lee and Clementine are different enough to make an interesting contrast for me, as my Clem is now forced to take responsibility for her own safety, and attempt to use what Lee has taught her to survive. Whether she does or not, she's done amazing to get this far.
I don't know why anyone would have a problem with more interesting characters in gaming, except younger players who aren't looking for or sometimes capable of understanding more complex narratives.
Yeah, that's the beef I have with Mass Effect. Picking male or female is essentially irrelevant. It's the same person and that's that. What yo… moreu do choose is wether you'd like to look at a guy's or a gal's ass for 40 hours. Maybe the 82% male Shepards mean that the girl on the sofa in front of the screen gets to make the call, who knows.
The crux of the matter is that Walking Dead is an extremely narratively centered game. The range of protagonists shouldn't cater to the young demographic used to play games as wish fulfillment, it should cater to mature gamers who are interested in personalities besides their own. The same main character range as in movies or literature should be possible.
But most of all - customization is not up to the player in these plot driven games, it's up to the designer. Lee as well as Clementine, as characters in a story, came with a fixed set of quirks, beliefs and morals, and these changed only just a bit during … [view original content]
Okay this is my first post on TTC but I was reading this read and had to join in
I'm a 31 year old female player. I'm old enough to have p… morelayed on a com 64, Spectrum Sinclair 128k (big geeky high five if you've played on one), master system, NES, etc and I love the new ideas coming out of TTC. I am sick of male dominated games where females are big chested sexual objects. It's time gaming caught up with the rest of the world and not just cater to one particular demographic. One of the reasons I started to watch TWD was how it was very different from what was on Tv (not catering to the masses and really made me think) at the time and what drew me in was the tough choices having to been made in order to survive. TTG have managed to bring this to the gaming world and I love it.
I played Lee an African American male make from the US which is quite opposite to me being a white female from UK and I identified and feel in love with the charac… [view original content]
It's not us guys it's young angry teenagers transferring hormonal aggression. I'm a 34 year old guy and I like the chance to play as a different character, any character from their point of view, I think being able to do that gives you a more rounded view of life and people in general.
We're not all mysogynist asswipes, honest
It's funny that it's only the guys that seem to have some issue playing a character that's the opposite gender.
Playing Lee didn't feel str… moreange at all to me. And I've never had problems with playing male characters before.
I wish I could understand what makes you guys so against playing a female.
As for the "Clementine could have been a boy" thing, I feel that would just make her too similar to Carl Grimes.
So if you want a little boy protagonist, you can always just read the comics or watch the show...
Dude people die because their skulls are cracked FROM FALLING INTO STAIRS.
The human body, especially a rotting one, is fragile as fuck, and skulls aren't as tough as you are suggesting, especially when it is anywhere that isn't the forehead area. Remember man, giant heavy tree branch+gravity=shitloads of kinetic energy.
I got kicked in the shin by a 10 year old once (long story). Made me bleed. When someone wields an object you really need to understand that even a 10 year old can harness the power of gravity and momentum. That was a huge god damn tree branch, and a direct impact against an immobile target can easily crack a skull in a few hits.
Also, it's skull might have been rotten.
Also Clem would be fitter than the average 11 year old of our world, given her constant running and fighting.
People seem to fail to realize that something like living in a post apocalyptic world would make children start maturing way before their age.… more
Anyways, ever been hit in the head by a 9 year old girl with a baseball bat or a hammer? You should try that sometime... It totally won't hurt at all.
You don't even make sense anymore. She meant that Clem would have been more physically and mentally fit than our worlds 11 year olds to exert effort (such as a log branch into a walker skull) due to the last 2 years of her frantic, desperate violent life.
As far as conversations go, being matured at a younger age, and having people SEE you as a child and talk to you like a child because you ARE … morea child are two different things. Are you going to argue that with me? They treated her like a child the entire game. Now whether or not she acts like a child, perceives the world like a child, or thinks like an adult or whatever, people you come across will SEE her as a child.
What don't you get about this?
I'm not saying its a terrible call or something by Telltale, but I am saying it COULD make the sequel inferior to the first season. Sorry if that doesn't coincide with your thoughts.
How does it feel to have 84 people(and counting) hate you?. Why the hell would you come on a forum full of Telltale game fans and slag off the… more games they make?. Are you a troll or just a complete fucking retard? BTW " playing as a little girl (puke) " way too sound mature.
are you actually serious. youre really calling clementine obnoxious because she has no physical strength? well she would last longer than all of us if the walking dead was actually real js
Turkeys are adorable! And taste great on a slice of bread! This one is more like a rubber chicken than a turkey though... un-funny, good-for-nothing and tastes bland.
you're so annoying. Who cares how many people hate you? This is the walking dead forum, downrates don't even matter to begin with. not saying I agree with him, but I don't agree with YOU by saying ' - hate you!! feel so bad1111!!!'. Just shows how insecure you are and tells me alot about you.
There was absolutely no reason for the thread to have been resurrected, and the completely immature way everyone's been acting proves this.
I'm pretty sure you're not a bunch of 7 year olds, so why you all feel the need to act like you are is utterly beyond me. Whatever the reason, it needs to stop. NOW.
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yes you should - there like Christmas turkeys ,you fatten them up, then you shoot them , cook em' and eat em'. Tastes great with pepper.
I can see how it will be more nerve racking not having brute strength to fall back on, but still, I liked the physicality of the first game.
Sounds like sexism
Turkeys are adorable! And taste great on a slice of bread! This one is more like a rubber chicken than a turkey though... un-funny, good-for-nothing and tastes bland.
As far as conversations go, being matured at a younger age, and having people SEE you as a child and talk to you like a child because you ARE a child are two different things. Are you going to argue that with me? They treated her like a child the entire game. Now whether or not she acts like a child, perceives the world like a child, or thinks like an adult or whatever, people you come across will SEE her as a child.
What don't you get about this?
I'm not saying its a terrible call or something by Telltale, but I am saying it COULD make the sequel inferior to the first season. Sorry if that doesn't coincide with your thoughts.
You sexist piece of shit!
I wish I could keep pressing the thumbs up button. I tried to make this comment a reply to Vainamoinen comment above.
"grown very attached"
Understatement of the year, good sir!
True, but it'll make it so good when an opponent underestimates Clem
I'm sure that it doesn't for girls, or for that matter, the vast majority of any gender who plays games. If what you're saying were true, those games would not exist.
Well... Technically it could. There's nothing to stop Telltale from creating an alternate version of Daryl within their own Walking dead Universe. Similar to how there are 2 Ricks. One in the AMC Universe, and one in the Telltale/Skybound Universe.
The question, is why would they do that? Would it move the story forward at all, or would it be a massive piece of fan service.
I mean, if there was a reason to have Daryl in the game, I'd be okay with it, if not, then I'd honestly be disappointed.
A male counterpart of Clementine would be nothing like Carl, in both the Show and Comics he is an incredibly different character from Clementine.
Well hello there random sexist! Got anything useful or intelligent to say? No? Okay, bye!
You just made my day.
Ha, thanks. That's my "go to" response for whenever anyone says something incredibly sexist/bigoted, or anything else of that nature.
Well, it DID show up in my feed as a reply to my post, so that is something.
Not sure who necroed this thread, but I do have to add something concerning EA's statistics about the percentage of female shepard players... advertising bias.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqYLfm1rWA&t=19m47s
It's such a shame now that whenever I hear "Bioware" the first thing that pop's in my head is they made the worst game ending since Polybius.
I used to love Mass effect, ahh the nostalgia....
More girl gamers are never a bad thing. Ever. Likewise for better female roles in games. And this is coming from a man.
Exactly! Personally I like any game that gives me the option of putting myself in the place of the character, making choices from their point of view rather than my own.
I play games to relax and to unload stress and just for fun. I don't always want to be Biotic charging hoardes of enemies, not that that's not fun, but I love more realistic theoretical situations you get from RPG and such.
What I admire about Tell Tale is it's not your classic RPG, it's entirely character driven, so while your taking part in a story that you can't really control (just like real life) the way your PC approaches these scenarios is entirely up to you, but also driven by the characters pre-existing personality.
Few games have the attention to character devolopment that Tell Tale does and personally I'm happy to play as Clem, it gives me the chance to look at the world from a different perspective than an adult male, which I am.
The options available to Lee and Clementine are different enough to make an interesting contrast for me, as my Clem is now forced to take responsibility for her own safety, and attempt to use what Lee has taught her to survive. Whether she does or not, she's done amazing to get this far.
I don't know why anyone would have a problem with more interesting characters in gaming, except younger players who aren't looking for or sometimes capable of understanding more complex narratives.
Yes to everything you just said.
It's not us guys it's young angry teenagers transferring hormonal aggression. I'm a 34 year old guy and I like the chance to play as a different character, any character from their point of view, I think being able to do that gives you a more rounded view of life and people in general.
We're not all mysogynist asswipes, honest
Wow, you are angry man.
Inb4 Eddie is culturally native american (is that how you say it?), takes Clem on a spirit quest, hence the red war paint and tribal music.
Dude people die because their skulls are cracked FROM FALLING INTO STAIRS.
The human body, especially a rotting one, is fragile as fuck, and skulls aren't as tough as you are suggesting, especially when it is anywhere that isn't the forehead area. Remember man, giant heavy tree branch+gravity=shitloads of kinetic energy.
I got kicked in the shin by a 10 year old once (long story). Made me bleed. When someone wields an object you really need to understand that even a 10 year old can harness the power of gravity and momentum. That was a huge god damn tree branch, and a direct impact against an immobile target can easily crack a skull in a few hits.
Also, it's skull might have been rotten.
Also Clem would be fitter than the average 11 year old of our world, given her constant running and fighting.
You don't even make sense anymore. She meant that Clem would have been more physically and mentally fit than our worlds 11 year olds to exert effort (such as a log branch into a walker skull) due to the last 2 years of her frantic, desperate violent life.
Why don't we all focus on the problem at hand and try our best to find a solution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ0epRjfGLw
Yes I'll do all that, I'll eat them, spit them out and throw them into the dumpster where they belong!
Clementine, obnoxious? Have we been playing the same game?
Hey congradulations 112 people hate you now - how do you feel
are you actually serious. youre really calling clementine obnoxious because she has no physical strength? well she would last longer than all of us if the walking dead was actually real js
The amount of dislikes, is too damn high
that's what the peppers for ... makes it less... blandy lol.
you're so annoying. Who cares how many people hate you? This is the walking dead forum, downrates don't even matter to begin with. not saying I agree with him, but I don't agree with YOU by saying ' - hate you!! feel so bad1111!!!'. Just shows how insecure you are and tells me alot about you.
Ramsay will freak if you cook it bland! XD
...and thread closed.
There was absolutely no reason for the thread to have been resurrected, and the completely immature way everyone's been acting proves this.
I'm pretty sure you're not a bunch of 7 year olds, so why you all feel the need to act like you are is utterly beyond me. Whatever the reason, it needs to stop. NOW.