Season 2 - Character
Does anyone like Carlos as a character?
I know I might get hate for this but I kinda do.
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Does anyone like Carlos as a character?
I know I might get hate for this but I kinda do.
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i'd like to see him suffer the same fate as ben in ch5, minus kenny jumping in to try and help. does that count?
So far, no. He's the worst doctor ever.
NO ARE U KIDDING A DOCTOR CANT TELL THE DIFERENCE BETWEEN A DOG BITE AND A HUMAN BITE!!!!! WTFFF
I'm not quite convinced about his medical skills yet. He is not to be trusted!
Ben is way better than Carlos that's for damn sure
So far no just because of his callous treatment and attitude towards Clem. Plus I don't agree with how he overprotects and shelters Sarah. His idealistic utopia is unrealistic and more harmful than helpful for her.
How about we lock him in the shed and see if he can be trusted in the morning?
My sentiments exactly.
Carlos needs to understand that he can't shelter Sarah forever and a day. It does more harm to her than good. Personally, I don't like the guy and I don't trust him. I don't even believe he is a doctor.
Yes that sounds like a good idea...i just hope he will be able to see the difference between a dog bite and a Walker bite in the next episode. Otherwhise old uncle Pete won't have a great chance to survive the amputation:D
oh, it's fine. it's just sprained. the swelling is normal, and you probly just scratched it too hard or something. here's some asprin, you should probly sit down and put that leg up for a bit.
Good point. Maybe he's exaggerating his MD credentials to improve his leverage with the group.
And don't forget to drink alot of water!
He's an inept fucktard posing as a "doctor" who embodies plot convenience and terrible characterization.
So no, I don't like him.
I could get past his poor medical skills and his treatment of Clem. But his over protectiveness of Sarah, basically turning her into Walker Bait is irredeemable in my opinion.
no he's cool he be that main homie hahaha jk jk jk he is not a very good doctor but he is not a bad person xD
Actually about the bite, I don't think every doctor in the world knows the difference between a human bite and a dog bite, they don't study that... But smart people would know that dog teeth have more flesh tearing teeth and the human teeth have only two flesh tearing teetth, so the way Clem's bite was, it wsa obviously an animal that could tear the meat and not just bite, like walkers do... A dog bite (in a rela attack) will tear more meat than a human/walker bite, nd Clem's was obviously a dog.
BUT, I understand that he problably wanted to be carefull, it was someone they didn't knew, that just appears there with a bite... he ws just being carefull, you have to understand Carlos doesn't know CLem... AGAIN BUT the solution of "hey look let's put her in the shed and see if she survives the night..."
Really? the shed? didn't you had a room to spare for ONE F*CKING NIGHT!? ANd were medical supplies that low that you couldn't stich her arm, put a little alchool and you know give her a towel for the blood? (if bandages where short...)
I consider myself a not so good person (sometimes really awfull) but doing that wouldn't make medical supplies lower...
I understand where he's coming from with the whole "stay away from my daughter!" and locking Clem in the shed. He's just trying to protect Sarah, who appears to be his only family member left, so I feel bad for him. It's certainly not doing her any favors, though, no matter what he thinks. About the whole doctor thing, I think it's possible that he was on his way to becoming a doctor and is not actually one yet. I read something on here a while ago that said maybe he when found the group he knew that he didn't really have any skills to contribute so he lied about being a doctor to secure a safe place for Sarah. That wouldn't surprise one bit.
Unfortunately, Telltale is probably going to kill him off to advance Sarah's characterization, and then Clem would probably have to teach her how to survive. I hope not, because I think that would be boring and highly predictable (even more predictable than Kenny returning as the "I thought you were dead" person). Besides, we kind of already had that with Lee teaching Clem how to shoot a gun. I hope Sarah dies before he does.
Also, he forgives you if you apologize for "manipulating" Sarah. Yeah, I like Carlos, too. I think there's more than what meets the eye with him.
there should have been enough evidence to show it probly wasn't a walker. the teeth marks and tearing didn't match, there was little to no deterioration around the wound, little things like that.
i think the biggest issue with carlos being a doctor is that a job/skill like that should have been in pretty damn high demand. he should have seen plenty of people coming back from outings with bites or other wounds so he should have had a line of questions ready rather than "lock her up and see what happens".
i see them more likely to try and kill sarah off so carlos can hold it against you. it's really both him and clem proving their points. sarah can't take care of herself, and carlos really shoulda taught her how.
Right. That decision of his to lock her in the shed was just plain wrong.
Opting to lock up Clem with an open wound was a dick move and a half, but I don't hate Carlos. At least not yet.
I imagine he's reminiscent of Kenny or Larry's mentality of putting family first, but I'll need to see how things progress with him. He'll probably hate me when I inevitably try to make good on that pinky swear though.
I'm certain he isn't a real doctor, hence his ineptitude. It just doesn't seem like Telltale to overtly force bad decision making for the purpose of the plot. [But then I remembered the gun and the bathroom at the start of the episode]
Couldn't they have just had Clem reach for the bottle and accidentally kick the gun away from the booth she is in or somehow else end up with the gun in the Michelle's hands even if you do choose to pick it up? It doesn't seem like it would be too hard to maintain the illusion of choice for that scene.
It sure will be fun travelling with Carlos and his bad decision making though.
Seriously if Kenny turns out to be Carver I'm betraying everyone first chance I get. But then again Luke...
God dammit Luke stop looking at me like that. He's got the [sad eyes] down pat, but he still has a long way to go before he reaches Clem's level.
Wow, Kenny turning out to be Carver. Wouldn't that be a major plot line in the story?!
Not really, I'll betray him first chance if I see he doesn't have anything to offer. Might as well just do it anyways.
When you scrutinize his behavior throughout episode one it makes it seem extremely likely that he exaggerated his credentials to boost his leverage in the group. He has the means (barely enough medical skills to make them believe him) and the motive (protecting his daughter).
E.G.
Cannot tell the difference between a dog and a human bite.
Has basically no knowledge of how ordinary infections work (or even worse, he just doesn't care). "We'll lock the 11 year old in the damp cold shed in the rain with an open arm wound all night and with no blanket or bedding, and if she has a fever, she is clearly bitten by a walker and we will have to put her down." Because clearly she couldn't get an 'ordinary' fever with those favorable conditions, right?
Either:
He isn't a real doctor and is lying about his level of medical skills to increase the safety of his daughter by increasing his own importance to the group, (he could have just been like a pharmacy front desk worker or something) or
He just doesn't care and like Rebecca he was intentionally or semi-intentionally trying to kill Clem because he thought she was a threat to his child/he wanted to save on food and medical supplies that might be needed for his child in the future. (remember how insanely tunnel visioned he is on protecting his daughter?)
Consider that these two things 'might' happen this season: it will actually be Sarah and Rebecca who die (changing Carlos and Alvin for the worse with their deaths), but otherwise most of the remaining group will actually live on so we don't get into that habit of 'its the walking dead, clearly everyone but the main character will be dead by the end of the episode'.
Of course Sarah and Rebecca will grow on us (GAME OF THRONES SPOILER) Jamie Lanister style right before Telltale kills them off.
Honestly in my mind anything could happen, what I think Telltale has intentionally done is make pairs of characters that have equal potential depth to them if their partner is killed off, in order for us to not be able to predict effectively what will happen next.
long as they go into more character depth than we've gotten and we actually start to think more of these people than "omg, how have the walkers not killed them already? somebody get me an axe, there's still work to be done. gonna make this world a little safer for everyone else." then i'll be happy. it does feel like they're being overly obvious with the pairings of carlos/sarah, nick/pete, and rebecca/alvin. hopefully more comes from it than just "now choose, CHOOSE my little sheeples! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!", but i have my doubts...
I'm going to have Kenny hand me a salt lick and well...you know the drill.
If you apologize for manipulating Sarah, he seems like a decent guy. I don't mind him.
I mean, he's taking probably the worst approach you can take with his daughter in terms of preparing and exposing her to such a cruel world, but, hey. Only gunna kill Sarah, ain't gunna kill me so what do I care?
it's a little concerning how protective he is about sarah, yet really didn't give much thought to his treatment of clem. there better be a really gory backstory about his missing wife or i might not regret choosin rebecca over him, should it come to it. that said, i'll still do what i can to save sarah. luke aside, i'm not particularly worried if anybody else dislikes clem in this group right now, and i'm sure he'll get over it after the next hard choice.
Well said Qipoi and thanks for your extra analysis. I'm leaning with you towards the latter that he just doesn't care. I think threw common sense aside and went with what's most practical even if it means treating Clem like an animal.
I'm just meh on him and his weirdo of a daughter
I know! Where the hell did he get medical training?!
He is a dumbass.
He looks so sad.
Carlos is an asshole and in idiot. He can't tell the difference between a dog bite and a walker bite, he makes Clem stay in the shed to wait and suffer because he can't be bothered to spare a little amount of supplies on her wound.
I completely disagree with him about keeping Sarah hidden from the world, what happens when the cabin is attacked by a herd of walkers? You can't avoid them forever
I won't say i like him nor will i say i hate him, in all honesty he saw the bite and didn't want to take any chances...Let's put yourself in their shoes okay, you live in a cabin with a group of people and have two members go out for supplies and instead they bring a little girl with a bite on her arm. Would you want to take the chance of endangering the rest of your group for some little girl that you dont know and have never met. I'm probably going to get down voted for this but im just thinking realisticly
I agree with you, I said it in my thread, I understand that they didn't wanted to take chances, the only really stupid decision was "put her in the shed..:", they could have locked her up in one room, the house is kind off big and it was just for one night...
The community is WAAAY overreacting over his incompetence. They ACTUALLY THINK that Telltale intended to write him incompetent and that his mistake should be taken that seriously.
No. The reality is that Telltale wrote themselves into a corner. You see, if he had known that it was a dog bite, even the little content we had in All That Remains would be further diminished and made more "bland" and "boring" (you know, because it would not be misery porn, which seems to be what Telltale is going for this season. Makes it easy to milk feels out of Clementine fans on every single episode). They needed him to not be sure about it so we could take the "long way around". I do not believe that it is an actual character trait, but simply a lazy plot-convenient outcome.
Carlos already has glaring flaws as an overprotective parent. He is interesting because of them. His "incompetence" is not one of these flaws - as much as it hurts to say, it is nothing but a testament of Telltale's overrated writing as of late.
My apologies. I exploded again. I guess I just have some extreme opinions on this matter... That said, if Telltale does give more indication of Carlos being incompetent in A House Divided, then I'll just eat my words and feel silly for ranting like this.