Brother/Sister Relationship

edited February 2014 in The Walking Dead

I keep hearing that Luke and Clem are going to have a brother/sister relationship. The thing is, why Luke? Why not Nick? Nick and Clem both have hats and they both lost their families (considering that Pete is going to die no matter what and Nick always lives) so why can't Nick and Clem have a brother/sister relationship? I think everyone here can agree that we would rather have Nick as a brother figure over Luke.

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  • Well Nick strikes me as an incompetent, so I don't think I want him helping my Clem or being her brother. As for Luke, well I don't want him as a brother either, in his case I'm shooting for Toadie

  • edited February 2014

    I'm sure we'll find out why he took to Clem so quickly in future episodes.

    (If they ever come.)

  • Who took to Clem?

    JakeSt123 posted: »

    I'm sure we'll find out why he took to Clem so quickly in future episodes. (If they ever come.)

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    They can't have brother/sister realationship just because they have same kind of hats.

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    I wouldn't trust Clem with Nick. He is inept and unable to protect himself, so she would have to save his ass all the time instead. Plus he almost shot her. Luke, on the other hand, risked his life to save her and was nice to her from the beginning. He also has no family left just like Clem so it would be more fitting if they developed a bother/sister relationship.

  • Because Luke likes Clem and Nick doesnt?

  • I think it's a sign that they are. They both lost their families too.

    They can't have brother/sister realationship just because they have same kind of hats.

  • Nate will not agree with this.

  • He can protect himself. Maybe he might change to become braver and fearless. He could even be Clementine's Clementine.

    Mr_Eeuss posted: »

    I wouldn't trust Clem with Nick. He is inept and unable to protect himself, so she would have to save his ass all the time instead. Plus he al

  • Yeah, but Luke and clementine already have that kind of relationship. We can't decide relationships between characters.

    Swindler posted: »

    I think it's a sign that they are. They both lost their families too.

  • It didn't seem like it to me. He wasted a ton of bullets trying to shoot the few walkers around him so he was forced to flee. And I doubt he'll change from incompetent to brave and fearless within a day.

    Swindler posted: »

    He can protect himself. Maybe he might change to become braver and fearless. He could even be Clementine's Clementine.

  • In my playthrough Nick didn't shoot her, Rebecca grabbed the gun from him and pulled the trigger, then blamed him..

    Mr_Eeuss posted: »

    I wouldn't trust Clem with Nick. He is inept and unable to protect himself, so she would have to save his ass all the time instead. Plus he al

  • Pete isn't confirmed dead if you save him...

    Swindler posted: »

    I think it's a sign that they are. They both lost their families too.

  • Phyre2Phyre2 Banned
    edited February 2014

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  • Why not? Please give a serious answer.

  • Phyre2Phyre2 Banned
    edited February 2014

    Okay,sorry.I just don't think Nick would ever be able to love Clem that much,seeing how she left Pete to die and shit.Plus,wasn't there a scene at the end of Ep2 where he was drinking?He just doesn't seem capable to look after a little girl.I mean,sure,they're gonna be friends and all that,but Clem already has a stronger bond with Luke.And Nick,with all his aggressive bursts,doesn't seem to really know what he's doing.He's confused and lost and i understand him,but,as i already said about three times in this comment,i don't think his bond with Clem will be as strong as the one she has with Luke,who's more...stable,i guess?Don't get me wrong,though,i really like Nick.And i know that Clementine will develop a deep relationship with him,as she will with almost every survivor in the group.

    Swindler posted: »

    Why not? Please give a serious answer.

  • Im more surprised people keep trying form a bond closer than friends/allies with clem and anyone. The whole " she had lee take care of her last time so what relationship will she have with her new "caretaker" is getting old. Clem is independent. She could use the people to survive, but doesnt necessarily need them. She can defend herself. She is still a person, but people keep treating her like a badass that still needs a babysitter watching over her shoulder. I see her relationship more like lee and kenny's, with luke playing the good guy, and clem making the hard choices while luke sticks by her side judging her the whole time. Both look after eachother, clem might be young, but i dont see them coddling her while trying to keep her as the "heroine" and cripple her by assigning a guardian. That said, i have really bad feeling theyll try to make luke her "prince on white horse" constantly coming to save the day.

  • Thank you. You're right.

    Phyre2 posted: »

    Okay,sorry.I just don't think Nick would ever be able to love Clem that much,seeing how she left Pete to die and shit.Plus,wasn't there a scen

  • Luke.

    Swindler posted: »

    Who took to Clem?

  • Sorry if i am not serious and annoying...It's just how i am,i don't mean to offend.It seems like there are just so many serious threads,i'm only trying to lighten the mood and...Brighten people's faces with a smile...I'm trying.

    Swindler posted: »

    Thank you. You're right.

  • No, I'm sorry if you took that the wrong way. I guess some of the community (including me) are tense about episode 2. I'm sure once the episode is out, those people can loosen up and can have fun again. (:

    Phyre2 posted: »

    Sorry if i am not serious and annoying...It's just how i am,i don't mean to offend.It seems like there are just so many serious threads,i'm only trying to lighten the mood and...Brighten people's faces with a smile...I'm trying.

  • It's okay! I thought it was funny!

    Phyre2 posted: »

    Sorry if i am not serious and annoying...It's just how i am,i don't mean to offend.It seems like there are just so many serious threads,i'm only trying to lighten the mood and...Brighten people's faces with a smile...I'm trying.

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    Yeah, whatever you say Mr. Serious.

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    Swindler posted: »

    It's okay! I thought it was funny!

  • Umm...Why are you even sorry?You did nothing to me...But...Yeah...Thanks?

    No, I'm sorry if you took that the wrong way. I guess some of the community (including me) are tense about episode 2. I'm sure once the episode is out, those people can loosen up and can have fun again. (:

  • I'm apologizing for the serious threads and anxious people in this community. I know you're trying to brighten up the mood and some people just don't appreciate it. Sorry I guess I'm just weird. :/

    Phyre2 posted: »

    Umm...Why are you even sorry?You did nothing to me...But...Yeah...Thanks?

  • Kenny and Molly are both white.

    THEY ARE COUSINS!!!!!!!

  • and i guess that means the stranger must have been Chuck's long lost nephew?

    Kenny and Molly are both white. THEY ARE COUSINS!!!!!!!

  • Aww...You have nothin' to be sorry FOR,brah!

    Phyre2 posted: »

    Sorry if i am not serious and annoying...It's just how i am,i don't mean to offend.It seems like there are just so many serious threads,i'm only trying to lighten the mood and...Brighten people's faces with a smile...I'm trying.

  • In TWD if a character has the possibility to being killed he/she will guaranteed die later. (Ben, Doug/Carley, etc).

    Pete isn't confirmed dead if you save him...

  • Doesn't matter if she can defend herself in the end she's still a child and she needs someone she can depend on if the time ever arises

    TheCygi posted: »

    Im more surprised people keep trying form a bond closer than friends/allies with clem and anyone. The whole " she had lee take care of her las

  • the same can be said about everybody else. she can use gun, she's killed a walker at close range. she has experience at moving and hiding from them. her height is more of an advantage than it is a detriment. she has experience hunting and living on the land. yes, she is a kid, but she doesn't need to be CODDLED because she's a kid. you get by with the help of others in times like that. comparing what she's been through and can handle with anybody else in this group will show that while she may be "just a kid", she's still more reliable when it comes down it.

    there's a certain level of respect that she'll need to have in order to make her a proper main character. you can't be yourself if people hold you back because you're too young, so while they may argue her age, they still have to acknowledge her abilities in order for her to be a valid member of the group. that can't happen if they treat her as a mere child.

    Doesn't matter if she can defend herself in the end she's still a child and she needs someone she can depend on if the time ever arises

  • I'm not saying she must be coddled I'm saying that she'll need to rely on the help of others experience would help but u need people to trust

    TheCygi posted: »

    the same can be said about everybody else. she can use gun, she's killed a walker at close range. she has experience at moving and hiding from

  • But she doesnt need that help simply because she is a child. That is my point. She needs help, yes. But so does everybody else in that group. Sarah is a child, and needs to be treated as such. Rebecca is with child, and needs to be treated like a child. Clem brings more to the table than just another mouth to feed, and i feel that giving her a caretaker, by any name, would draw away from the fact that they (TTG) are trying to put her into a situation where she has to pull her own weight.

    When it came down to it, kenny had lee's back. Yes, for some people it took getting his ass kicked by a bunch of invalids for him to rise to occassion, but he was there. In the end, kenny was a friend to lee, not a brother or role model, but they ackowledged and respected eachother in their own way. That is the sort of relationship clem needs. A friend that will have her back, not a big brother or father figure to hide behind when things get tough.

    I'm not saying she must be coddled I'm saying that she'll need to rely on the help of others experience would help but u need people to trust

  • I'm not saying she needs help cause she is a child I'm saying she needs help because like Hershel said "you need to depend on the honesty I strangers"

    TheCygi posted: »

    But she doesnt need that help simply because she is a child. That is my point. She needs help, yes. But so does everybody else in that group.

  • This group is probly the worst to bring hershel's words into the mix as a reason to support her being with them. "Depend on the honesty of strangers"... carlos is hiding/sheltering sarah from the truth of their situation and possibly even his qualifications as a doctor, rebecca is hiding that the baby may not be alvin's, nick has his inadequacies about what pete wishes for him, alvin is too passive/whipped to stand up for himself, and TTG only knows what luke is hiding. And then there is the whole carver thing. I think if hershel saw this group, he'd turn to clem and say "run! Get out while you still can!"

    I'm not saying she needs help cause she is a child I'm saying she needs help because like Hershel said "you need to depend on the honesty I strangers"

  • Not completely true, no example of that has been set in Season 2. Telltale have also said that this choice is extremely important and will effect the entirety of the season.

  • What are you talking about I was talking about in general not that specific group I might run if I was her

    TheCygi posted: »

    This group is probly the worst to bring hershel's words into the mix as a reason to support her being with them. "Depend on the honesty of st

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    Actually, there's a split-second close-up on Pete's leg showing he was bitten after he rips it away from a walker.

    Pete isn't confirmed dead if you save him...

  • Amputation can save him. Lee died from BLOOD LOSS, not the bite after the amputation. If Carlos can manage to stop the bleeding (since he is supposedly a doctor, albeit not a great one) then Pete MIGHT be fine.

  • How do you know that?

    Amputation can save him. Lee died from BLOOD LOSS, not the bite after the amputation. If Carlos can manage to stop the bleeding (since he is supposedly a doctor, albeit not a great one) then Pete MIGHT be fine.

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