I think I know how you feel, and in a way I feel the same way, but at the same time, it goes into Dawkin's 'Blind Clockmaker' analogy - if y… moreou come upon the shore and find a pocketwatch, you will believe that something so intricuate will be unique and have a maker; but human consciousness is not as great a leap as we would like to believe - thoughout evolutionary history there has been a clear and delineated progression in the development of consciousness. One minor example is the way that dogs cannot recognize themselves in the mirror - neither can really young infants. Going back to its origin, the most primitive forms of 'consciousness' are merely reactions to tactile stimuli, and those gradually have built up on one another to produce modern human consciousness. Dogs mourn, elephants can even cry. Humans really aren't that special.
Nothing happens. I believe that after we die, we are stuck in a room full of darkness, left with our thoughts and memories, but no way back to the world we once knew.
Nothing happens. I believe that after we die, we are stuck in a room full of darkness, left with our thoughts and memories, but no way back to the world we once knew.
Nothing happens. I believe that after we die, we are stuck in a room full of darkness, left with our thoughts and memories, but no way back to the world we once knew.
Nothing happens. I believe that after we die, we are stuck in a room full of darkness, left with our thoughts and memories, but no way back to the world we once knew.
Nothing happens
I believe that after we die, we are stuck in a room full of darkness, left with our thoughts and memories, but no way back to the world we once knew.
Internal inconsistency.
Well, that depends. Sometimes you get cremated, other times you get put in the ground. Oh, wait, you mean--right, gotcha.
But in all seriousness, I firmly believe nothing happens after death. There's no god, there's no heaven or hell, and your corporeal form doesn't drift onto another being to start the cycle anew.
You simply expire. Everything you are is derived from your brain; and the heart keeps it going. Once the heart goes (e.g. death), the brain goes with it, and everything you are follows suit. And you return to the same existence you experienced before you were born: nothing.
Of course, harsh realities are rarely appealing--and thus fantasies of afterlife's and magical paradises in the sky are born. But, in my opinion, they are just that: fantasies. Nothing happens after death like nothing happens before life.
I was raised as a Christian, but I just can't buy into the afterlife and heaven theory. So, I just think that the cycle will go on and I'll wake up as a baby (or toddler, idk when we start realizing we're alive) and not remember my past life.
Although, it would be cool to spectate life without a living body. Not like a ghost or anything paranormal, but you just get to watch everything happen without a single judgement or thought. Like a video game.
I once read a story of a guy who was declared dead in hospital, but then was revived. He said that it was like "a eternal sleep, but without a dream" or something along those words.
To simplify, the basic idea is that you have a "person" that is not in fact a person, but still appears to be human in its actions (e.g. recoiling to pain), anatomy and everything in between, in spite of lacking an actual conciousness. Hence, they are zombies; unalive, but simply machines that replicate the human condition so well, that they are virtually indistinguishable in all ways. That's the short version. I could go on forever about physicalism and what it represents but I would be here forever.
I know that. That is something I am familiar with, What I mean is that I cannot understand why a consciousness manifests as one being "alive". Why is it that I "percieve"? Why is it that I can "think"? If the world is indeed just atoms, energy and light, why does my manifested perception of living exist?
I don't think that I can quite describe what I am trying to. It is difficult to put into words.
I think I know how you feel, and in a way I feel the same way, but at the same time, it goes into Dawkin's 'Blind Clockmaker' analogy - if y… moreou come upon the shore and find a pocketwatch, you will believe that something so intricuate will be unique and have a maker; but human consciousness is not as great a leap as we would like to believe - thoughout evolutionary history there has been a clear and delineated progression in the development of consciousness. One minor example is the way that dogs cannot recognize themselves in the mirror - neither can really young infants. Going back to its origin, the most primitive forms of 'consciousness' are merely reactions to tactile stimuli, and those gradually have built up on one another to produce modern human consciousness. Dogs mourn, elephants can even cry. Humans really aren't that special.
I once read a story of a guy who was declared dead in hospital, but then was revived. He said that it was like "a eternal sleep, but without a dream" or something along those words.
I believe it'll be like that.
So, I just think that the cycle will go on and I'll wake up as a baby (or toddler, idk when we start realizing we're alive) and not remember my past life.
I'm curious about this idea. If you wake up as a baby/toddler in a completely new environment, with potentially a new language, race, gender and having forgotten everything about your past life, in what sense can you really say that's "you" anymore?
I was raised as a Christian, but I just can't buy into the afterlife and heaven theory. So, I just think that the cycle will go on and I'll … morewake up as a baby (or toddler, idk when we start realizing we're alive) and not remember my past life.
Although, it would be cool to spectate life without a living body. Not like a ghost or anything paranormal, but you just get to watch everything happen without a single judgement or thought. Like a video game.
So, I just think that the cycle will go on and I'll wake up as a baby (or toddler, idk when we start realizing we're alive) and not remember… more my past life.
I'm curious about this idea. If you wake up as a baby/toddler in a completely new environment, with potentially a new language, race, gender and having forgotten everything about your past life, in what sense can you really say that's "you" anymore?
Well, yeah, that's pretty much what I was getting at. There's really no difference between a cycle of reincarnation and "you die, someone else is born." I think people are just drawn to the idea that after they die, there's still something left that they can call "me," even if it has nothing to do with who and what they were in any meaningful way.
Well, it's really hard to say. I've myself experienced some weird things which I really can't explain rationally, but they don't proof anything. But if I had to choose, I'd definitely go to Valhalla or Fólkvangr. Valhalla would probably be better - train all day and then drink mead and eat bacon all evening... Doesn't sound bad at all
Well, yeah, that's pretty much what I was getting at. There's really no difference between a cycle of reincarnation and "you die, someone el… morese is born." I think people are just drawn to the idea that after they die, there's still something left that they can call "me," even if it has nothing to do with who and what they were in any meaningful way.
"In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." - Genesis 3:19. (KJV)
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Glad I could help.
Nothing inhales deeply knowing there will be hate I'm an atheist...
Nothing happens. I believe that after we die, we are stuck in a room full of darkness, left with our thoughts and memories, but no way back to the world we once knew.
That would be kinda Scary
I believe in Heaven and Hell so Heaven (Hopefully)
It would be, but I can't see any other thing happening.
That's very deep.
Yep, it sure is.
Internal inconsistency.
Sorry, I definitely could've worded that a little better.
And there's an ice skating rink.
Reincarnation .. or souls get 'stuck' , so to speak , resulting in ghosts.
Well, that depends. Sometimes you get cremated, other times you get put in the ground. Oh, wait, you mean--right, gotcha.
But in all seriousness, I firmly believe nothing happens after death. There's no god, there's no heaven or hell, and your corporeal form doesn't drift onto another being to start the cycle anew.
You simply expire. Everything you are is derived from your brain; and the heart keeps it going. Once the heart goes (e.g. death), the brain goes with it, and everything you are follows suit. And you return to the same existence you experienced before you were born: nothing.
Of course, harsh realities are rarely appealing--and thus fantasies of afterlife's and magical paradises in the sky are born. But, in my opinion, they are just that: fantasies. Nothing happens after death like nothing happens before life.
Doesn't mean you can't predict, right?
I was raised as a Christian, but I just can't buy into the afterlife and heaven theory. So, I just think that the cycle will go on and I'll wake up as a baby (or toddler, idk when we start realizing we're alive) and not remember my past life.
Although, it would be cool to spectate life without a living body. Not like a ghost or anything paranormal, but you just get to watch everything happen without a single judgement or thought. Like a video game.
I once read a story of a guy who was declared dead in hospital, but then was revived. He said that it was like "a eternal sleep, but without a dream" or something along those words.
I believe it'll be like that.
:O my sweet sunshine I'm sorry you feel this way...
K den
To simplify, the basic idea is that you have a "person" that is not in fact a person, but still appears to be human in its actions (e.g. recoiling to pain), anatomy and everything in between, in spite of lacking an actual conciousness. Hence, they are zombies; unalive, but simply machines that replicate the human condition so well, that they are virtually indistinguishable in all ways. That's the short version. I could go on forever about physicalism and what it represents but I would be here forever.
I know that. That is something I am familiar with, What I mean is that I cannot understand why a consciousness manifests as one being "alive". Why is it that I "percieve"? Why is it that I can "think"? If the world is indeed just atoms, energy and light, why does my manifested perception of living exist?
I don't think that I can quite describe what I am trying to. It is difficult to put into words.
As I said sounds like jack stuck in the echo eye.
I'm curious about this idea. If you wake up as a baby/toddler in a completely new environment, with potentially a new language, race, gender and having forgotten everything about your past life, in what sense can you really say that's "you" anymore?
In... no sense at all?
Well, yeah, that's pretty much what I was getting at. There's really no difference between a cycle of reincarnation and "you die, someone else is born." I think people are just drawn to the idea that after they die, there's still something left that they can call "me," even if it has nothing to do with who and what they were in any meaningful way.
Well, it's really hard to say. I've myself experienced some weird things which I really can't explain rationally, but they don't proof anything. But if I had to choose, I'd definitely go to Valhalla or Fólkvangr. Valhalla would probably be better - train all day and then drink mead and eat bacon all evening... Doesn't sound bad at all
god I can't upvote this enough...
I lose my consciousness forever. And my body will slowly disappear forever.
Stuff and things
"In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." - Genesis 3:19. (KJV)