Telltale Doctor Who Game? (Merged Threads)

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  • edited November 2009
    vitas wrote: »
    Sylvester McCoy, Colin Baker and Paul McGann ain't doing much except the audios.

    Sylvester McCoy has always primarily been a stage actor, I'm fairly sure Colin Baker was involved in something stagey recently, and Paul McGann has a big tv thing on ITV this or next week
  • edited November 2009
    What would be nice would be if we had an episodic series with the different Doctors in different time periods, and we play as one Doctor each episode, slowly discovering an overarching plot that affects all of time...

    Yeah that's just been done to many times in too many ways :rolleyes:

    But yeah would be great. Big Finish could deal with all the audio whilst Telltale creates the game.

    Maybe we could go with one of the other unbound Doctors. Like Richard E. Grant's Shalka Doctor. Trevor Martin's 4th Doctor. Geoffrey Bayldon's 1st Doctor. David Warner's 3rd Doctor. And Sir Derek Jacobi's First Doctor.
  • edited November 2009
    vitas wrote: »
    Yeah that's just been done to many times in too many ways :rolleyes:

    Well I meant do it properly, hopefully not like one of the old cheesefests (ESPECIALLY not like The Two Doctors, with its cyanide and cannibals).
  • edited November 2009
    Well I meant do it properly, hopefully not like one of the old cheesefests (ESPECIALLY not like The Two Doctors, with its cyanide and cannibals).

    Well other multiple Doctor stories.

    The Two Doctors
    The Three Doctors
    The Five Doctors
    The Sirens of Time
    Time Crash
    Project Lazarus
    Heart of TARDIS
    The Eight Doctors
    Zagreus
    Wolfsbane
    Destiny of the Doctors
    Interference: Book One
    Interference: Book Two
    Cold Fusion
    The Colony of Lies
    Dalek Attack
    All-Consuming Fire
    The Curse of Fatal Death (it may be a spoof but it's canon to a paralel universe)
  • edited November 2009
    vitas wrote: »
    Well other multiple Doctor stories...

    Okay okay, I know there's loads in the expanded universe (which I haven't really bothered with aside from the odd Big Finish), but you can hardly say most of those examples you used were mainstream. They're mostly aimed at the hardcore, the uber fanbase. Now don't take this the wrong way, I'm a massive anorak and it grates on me when RTD calls the uber-fans ming-mongs, but I'd hope that if Telltale ever made a game it would be done in a more mainstream style, like the TV show in its good days (not just the current series, but the Tom Baker/Hinchcliffe era, the Pertwee days, the best of the Hartnell/Troughton stories, maybe even some of the early Davison ones). But then again, I don't think there's any danger of Telltale turning it into hardcore serious science fiction anyway.
  • edited November 2009
    Okay okay, I know there's loads in the expanded universe (which I haven't really bothered with aside from the odd Big Finish), but you can hardly say most of those examples you used were mainstream. They're mostly aimed at the hardcore, the uber fanbase. Now don't take this the wrong way, I'm a massive anorak and it grates on me when RTD calls the uber-fans ming-mongs, but I'd hope that if Telltale ever made a game it would be done in a more mainstream style, like the TV show in its good days (not just the current series, but the Tom Baker/Hinchcliffe era, the Pertwee days, the best of the Hartnell/Troughton stories, maybe even some of the early Davison ones). But then again, I don't think there's any danger of Telltale turning it into hardcore serious science fiction anyway.

    Well look lets start of with classic Doctors and if successful, new series.

    Can't do 1st, 2nd or 3rd Doctor stories cause actors are dead (excluding the companion chronicles) but we could do with their alternate versions like Sir Derek Jacobi's First Doctor.
  • edited November 2009
    i wonder if i went on a huger strike until they announce a dr who game would convince them??
  • edited November 2009
    shref wrote: »
    i wonder if i went on a huger strike until they announce a dr who game would convince them??

    If you held it outside their office maybe.

    Maybe sending them a letter would work :D
  • edited November 2009
    Actually, if they got Richard E. Grant I might look into it. I'm willing to give anything with Grant in it a try.

    (Sorry, but I'm not really a Dr. Who fan. I love David Tenant, and all of the companions have been interesting, engaging characters, but I never really got into the show. It's good, but I just never got drawn into it the way I did Life on Mars or Hitchhiker. Then again, if they games played up the adventure side of things a little more, it might help. Watching Tenant's Doctor, I kind of wish they had played up the derring-do angle a little bit more. More Captain Blood then Captain Kirk. That might be a fun game series ...)
  • edited November 2009
    Lena_P wrote: »
    Actually, if they got Richard E. Grant I might look into it. I'm willing to give anything with Grant in it a try.

    (Sorry, but I'm not really a Dr. Who fan. I love David Tenant, and all of the companions have been interesting, engaging characters, but I never really got into the show. It's good, but I just never got drawn into it the way I did Life on Mars or Hitchhiker. Then again, if they games played up the adventure side of things a little more, it might help. Watching Tenant's Doctor, I kind of wish they had played up the derring-do angle a little bit more. More Captain Blood then Captain Kirk. That might be a fun game series ...)

    Truth be it Richard E. Grant is an official Doctor in a way. He played both an alternate Ninth Doctor and an alternate Tenth Doctor.
  • edited November 2009
    vitas wrote: »
    Truth be it Richard E. Grant is an official Doctor in a way. He played both an alternate Ninth Doctor and an alternate Tenth Doctor.

    A Doctor who was also the Scarlet Pimpernel? He'd be like the smart, dark-haired version of Guybrush. If they gave him glasses he'd be perfect!
  • edited November 2009
    Lena_P wrote: »
    Actually, if they got Richard E. Grant...

    Dear.God.No. :-|
    vitas wrote: »
    but we could do with their alternate versions like Sir Derek Jacobi's First Doctor.

    Derek Jacobi is a phenomenal actor. It would be great if he could be woo'ed but I doubt he'd come cheap.
  • edited November 2009
    Gryffalio wrote: »
    Dear.God.No. :-|



    Derek Jacobi is a phenomenal actor. It would be great if he could be woo'ed but I doubt he'd come cheap.

    Well Sir Dereck Jacobi played the Master twice. In Utopia and Scream of the Shalka. He played the First Doctor in the story Deadline:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadline_(Doctor_Who_audio)

    As for Richard E. Grant, he played an alternate Ninth Doctor in Scream of the Shalka:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scream_of_the_Shalka

    and an alternate Tenth Doctor in The Curse of Fatal Death:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Curse_of_Fatal_Death

    but an actor who would be most great to get in is David Warner who he has also played the Doctor but as an alternate Third Doctor in Sympathy for the Devil:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathy_for_the_Devil_(Doctor_Who_audio)

    and again in Masters of War:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_War_(Doctor_Who_audio)

    also having other roles in other Doctor Who stories and the upcomming new story Dreamland.

    So yeah David Warner.

    also Julian Glover who played General Veers in Empire Strikes Back, Walter Donovan in The Last Crusade and Aristotle Kristatos in 007 For Your Eyes only would be great to play the Doctor. He appeared twice in Doctor Who both as a villain and a king in the stories the City of Death and The Crusade.
    In the commentary for The Crusade, he said how he would love to have played the Doctor.
    Well if TTG does do a Doctor Who adventure, PLEASE oh PLEASE get Julian Glover to play him as alternate Doctor. Maybe an alternate Fifth Doctor :)
  • edited November 2009
    How about adapting the abortive project "The Dark Dimension" as an episodic computer game,whcih would have the depth to allow the player to explore all the tangents that come across as.... well, stupid, in the storyline. I think that they might nevertheless turn out to be interesting and enjoyable if given the space that simply wouldn't have been available within 90 minutes of television
  • edited November 2009
    How about adapting the abortive project "The Dark Dimension" as an episodic computer game,whcih would have the depth to allow the player to explore all the tangents that come across as.... well, stupid, in the storyline. I think that they might nevertheless turn out to be interesting and enjoyable if given the space that simply wouldn't have been available within 90 minutes of television

    But we'll have to exclude the Third Doctor from it since well ... y'know.
    Also if Tom Baker is willing. He might do voices for video games but not sure if a Doctor Who one since he declined so many times the Big Finish Doctor Who audios. Although he did return for the upcomming Doctor Who audios for the BBC.
    And he did voice in the Doctor Who video game Destiny of the Doctors.
  • edited November 2009
    I think they should do an entirely fictional doctor called Blokebrush Nineiron, who has an inexplicable love of NiN, voiced by Dominic Armato...

    ...no? I'll show myself out :(
  • edited November 2009
    Gryffalio wrote: »
    I think they should do an entirely fictional doctor called Blokebrush Nineiron, who has an inexplicable love of NiN, voiced by Dominic Armato...

    ...no? I'll show myself out :(

    Yeah I see where you're getting at but I guess Dominic Armato would be nice as long as he plays an alternate Doctor. The same can be said for Earl Boen or even Tom Kane :D
  • edited November 2009
    Gryffalio wrote: »
    I think they should do an entirely fictional doctor called Blokebrush Nineiron, who has an inexplicable love of NiN, voiced by Dominic Armato...

    ...no? I'll show myself out :(

    There actually is only one "Doctor", since he is referred to as the Doctor. It's not the name of his race, that would go to the Time Lords, which the Doctor is one of.
  • edited November 2009
    Lena_P wrote: »
    A Doctor who was also the Scarlet Pimpernel? He'd be like the smart, dark-haired version of Guybrush. If they gave him glasses he'd be perfect!

    If interested you can watch the one where he plays the alternate Ninth Doctor here:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/webcasts/shalka/

    just pick the episode you want to watch. And wont matter what country you're in when watching it.

    Note: That even though it's official episode, it's alternate Ninth Doctor.
  • edited November 2009
    GaryCXJk wrote: »
    There actually is only one "Doctor", since he is referred to as the Doctor. It's not the name of his race, that would go to the Time Lords, which the Doctor is one of.

    Fine. doctor-character. Happy? :)
  • edited November 2009
    Anyone seen »Waters on Mars« yet? Damn, what a disturbing ending… »More darkness!«-people will be pleased ;)
    I love this show!
  • edited November 2009
    Majus wrote: »
    Anyone seen »Waters on Mars« yet? Damn, what a disturbing ending… »More darkness!«-people will be pleased ;)
    I love this show!

    You should see the trailer for the next one. Shows the Master with white hair and for some reason can see his insides. Also an Ood with his brain showing from his head!

    Also Majus if interested, here's a link to Wikipedia with listing nearly all the Doctor Who videos games which have been released although few missing:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Doctor_Who_video_games
  • edited November 2009
    Majus wrote: »
    Anyone seen »Waters on Mars« yet? Damn, what a disturbing ending… »More darkness!«-people will be pleased ;)
    I love this show!

    December 19th, 2009 is the broadcast date for BBC America. Since it's a relatively quick turnover for once (not to mention the beginning of the end for Tenth), I'm avoiding spoilers as much as possible.
  • edited November 2009
    @Vitas: Well, the trailer was at the end of »Waters of Mars«, so I saw it. Brilliant stuff! But please use Spoiler-Tags, I guess there are some Who-Fans around. ;)
    Brainiac wrote: »
    December 19th, 2009 is the broadcast date for BBC America. Since it's a relatively quick turnover for once (not to mention the beginning of the end for Tenth), I'm avoiding spoilers as much as possible.

    It’s never gonna be broadcasted in Germany, so I had to use other ways… but, as a collector, I will buy the DVD-Box when it’s realeased, of course!
  • edited November 2009
    Majus wrote: »
    Anyone seen »Waters on Mars« yet? Damn, what a disturbing ending… »More darkness!«-people will be pleased ;)
    I love this show!
    I saw it! As you said though, not everyone did, so spoilers ahoy!
    Aside from some of the 'infected' make-up being a little silly (especially when the two guys were running down the corridor, which seemed more like a parody then the actual show), I thought it was pretty good. Hell of a thing to have the Doctor do though.

    Incidentally, this is the best I could find when searching for the trailer for The End of Time on YouTube. Sometimes you just wish people would shut the heck up. But hey, at least this one's got subtitles.
  • edited November 2009
    The above trailer was a ComicCon exclusive. This is the "Next Time" trailer.
  • edited November 2009
    The Waters of Mars was incredible, which is surprising considering the utter shit they've been shovelling us for the last year. After the amazing Midnight and Turn Left, we were given the usual overblown finale, an appaling Christmas episode and an equally forgettable Easter one. But now we're back to what Doctor Who should be! Let's hope RTD keeps it up for the next two! Let's have more of the quality of Children of Earth and The Waters of Mars, less The Next Doctor and Planet of the Dead please.
  • edited November 2009
    The following post contains some pretty harsh views and a few spoilers, but they're of episodes from last year and so shouldn't be too horrendous. But even so, ye be warned!

    See, I thought The Next Doctor wasn't all that good either. That was down mostly to RTD's writing, and it's often something I have problems with.

    Having watched all his episodes, I've found that he generally writes two types of episode - one where the threat level remains constant throughout, and the other where there's a big reveal about two-thirds of the way through.

    The episodes where the general tone of the episode and the overall threat remains roughly the same throughout work really well. Tooth and Claw, for example, or The Waters of Mars. Whether it's a constant feeling of doom or just a standard romp, they generally turn out pretty well.

    The episodes where there's a big reveal about two-thirds or so into the story are not as good. Love and Monsters is a prime example of this, as was The Next Doctor. Up until that point, the story will be pretty good, but once you get to that reveal, RTD can't resist having some big earth-shattering event or an utterly ludicrous monster (or both) that just stops the episode dead in its tracks. Once you hit that moment, you're gone - you've lost whatever respect or enjoyment you previously had for the episode and you switch to mocking mode. 'That monster looks ridiculous!' or 'That makes no sense at all!'. And once the big reveal happens, you still need to have the Doctor beat this threat. But if you don't take this threat seriously, then it's hard to watch someone else do so.

    Let's take Voyage of the Damned as an example. It wasn't the most fantastic episode in the world (way too much death for my liking), but it was enjoyable enough. Until we find out that the big bad is a head in a box. An annoying, smug, vain and just plain irritating head in a box. And it's an ugly head in a box as well - sparkling teeth and everything. Once we, the audience, discover this, we stop caring. It could be the head of Hitler for all we care, we're just not going to take it seriously. And if we won't take that seriously, then why should we take anything else seriously? And then Kylie takes a forklift to the ugly head in a box. I'll repeat that.

    Kylie Minogue drives a forklift and forces an ugly, irritating head in a box to fall down a hole.

    If anyone else had written a script with that in it then it would never have gotten through. It's just ridiculous. And RTD expects us to not only accept that, but feel sorry for Kylie as she then falls down the hole herself and dies. Which is absurd, because he's already lost us. He's crossed the line and lost the viewer's respect. And then he goes on and has Queen Elizabeth evacuate Buckingham Palace in case the ship crashes into it, and when it doesn't he has the Queen actually thank the Doctor. This isn't serious drama - it's a bad comedy sketch.

    Several of his episodes play out like this. With Boom Town it was the Slitheen taking control of the TARDIS and causing somewhat unconvincing cracks to appear in Cardiff. With Love and Monsters it was the Abzorbalof (or, rather, Peter Kay). The Stolen Earth/Children of Time, the sheer cluster-f*ck of characters. The Next Doctor, the CyberKing. And so on.

    I enjoyed Planet of the Dead - I thought it was an enjoyable romp, if not exactly jam-packed with tension. And as I already mentioned, The Waters of Mars was, with the exception of a few make-up issues, bloody marvellous. It seems that co-writting episodes with someone helps to temper RTD's bad habits. I look forward to the Christmas two-parter, which thankfully we don't have to wait 6 sodding months for.
  • edited November 2009
    Rant

    Shoveling utter shit?
    Lost the viewers respect?
    Wow... I must watch the "Doctor Who"s of a different dimension then.

    Boy I sure hope I'll never become a hardcore overanalyzing fan like you.
    And who is this "we/us" you talk about. If you mean "we/us, the viewers of Doctor Who" then it's not true. This would include me. And I don't share your (almost) hatred for some episode in the slightest.
    So far I found every episode very entertaining. No more, but most certainly no less.
  • edited November 2009
    I like Doctor Who.
  • edited November 2009
    ...the Abzorbalof (or, rather, Peter Kay)...

    Peter Kay? I thought the Abzorbaloff was Ian Levine. :p
  • edited November 2009
    Katsuro wrote: »
    Shoveling utter shit?
    Lost the viewers respect?
    Wow... I must watch the "Doctor Who"s of a different dimension then.

    Boy I sure hope I'll never become a hardcore overanalyzing fan like you.
    And who is this "we/us" you talk about. If you mean "we/us, the viewers of Doctor Who" then it's not true. This would include me. And I don't share your (almost) hatred for some episode in the slightest.
    So far I found every episode very entertaining. No more, but most certainly no less.
    I'm not saying this happens all the time. It's something I've only found in some of the episodes written by RTD. And even then, those episodes are fine, even great, until that 66% mark. It's the fact that RTD includes those OTT moments that means I am thrown out of the plot with little to no hope of getting back in. And when I say 'we/us', I mean me as a typical audience member. I admit not everyone shares my views, but if you visit the Gallifrey Base forums (formerly the Doctor Who Forums), for example, there are a fair few who do.

    I very much enjoy Doctor Who. Even the old, not-as-good ones (well, except the early ones which just go on and on and on...). And when RTD is on form, he can write some of the best episodes. But, conversely, he can also write the worst. It's still better then a lot of other shows, but when compared to the brilliance of Who, he can really fall short.

    Honestly, I don't really like to over-analyse stuff. When I do, all I find are more things to dislike. But I've had this view on RTD's writing for a while now and I felt like sharing. In doing so, I help myself to actually realize why I feel that way. So thanks, Telltale Games Forums! Thanks for helping me to better myself!

    Incidentally, I do a lot of, usually positive, writing. I have a site (and emphatically not a blog) where I tend to dump all my scribblings. Check it out. My (very old) stuff on Doctor Who's about 3/5ths down the page.
  • edited November 2009
    Please no Dr Who game. That program is the biggest pile of shite. crappy writing/actors, the story is A JOKE. but I dont wanna rip into people who actually watch it except anyone over 14 who likes it should sort their lives out...
  • edited November 2009
    Oi! My life is fine, thank you very much.
  • edited November 2009
    tmsmyth4 wrote: »
    Please no Dr Who game. That program is the biggest pile of shite. crappy writing/actors, the story is A JOKE. but I dont wanna rip into people who actually watch it except anyone over 14 who likes it should sort their lives out...

    Hahaha oh you brilliant jokester.
    How did you get out of the cage again? :D
    Allons-y! Back to your corner.
  • edited November 2009
    tmsmyth4 wrote: »
    Please no Dr Who game. That program is the biggest pile of shite. crappy writing/actors, the story is A JOKE. but I dont wanna rip into people who actually watch it except anyone over 14 who likes it should sort their lives out...

    I'm not a Dr. Who fan in the slightest, but even I can tell that part of it's appeal is the slight "hammyness" of it.

    I bet you think Father Ted's crap too :p
  • edited November 2009
    tmsmyth4 wrote: »
    Please no Dr Who game. That program is the biggest pile of shite. crappy writing/actors, the story is A JOKE. but I dont wanna rip into people who actually watch it except anyone over 14 who likes it should sort their lives out...

    I think you're thinking of "Coupling". (Just kidding! Some of the actors who were on "Coupling" are actually quite good in other things.)
  • edited November 2009
    JedExodus wrote: »
    I'm not a Dr. Who fan in the slightest, but even I can tell that part of it's appeal is the slight "hammyness" of it.

    I bet you think Father Ted's crap too :p

    Down with this sort of thing!
  • edited November 2009
    AllenB wrote: »
    Down with this sort of thing!

    Careful now!
  • edited November 2009
    Lena_P wrote: »
    I think you're thinking of "Coupling". (Just kidding! Some of the actors who were on "Coupling" are actually quite good in other things.)
    Isn’t that the show written by Steven Moffat, one of the favorite writers of Doctor Who?
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