The Siege of Spinner Cay - Thoughts, Hopes and Predictions (Spoliers)

With ToMI Chapter 2: The Siege of Spinner Cay just round the corner (Perhaps a reasonably large corner that may take a few weeks to navigate round) - What are your thoughts? What do you hope for? What do you predict is in store for our hapless hero?

In this interview, Dan Conners (TTG CEO) gives us some interesting clues...
Well, obviously something's going on with human LeChuck. He seems to be getting along with Elaine a little bit too well. The fact that LeChuck is actually quite a nice guy apparently is going to be a big part of the next episode. At the same time the pox is continuing to affect Guybrush, so he's getting a little bit more zombie-ish. He's prone to outbreaks of getting angry and things like that. So there's going to be some character development that will be real interesting for people to see.

They're off at sea and they do a bunch of island hopping in this adventure. Going around to different islands and exploring more of the area that is the series of islands that Guybrush lives on. There's a lot on the ship, a lot with Winslow, and you get to find out who is the one that puts the sword to his throat at the end of the last episode. Much is revealed, new relationships are established and the affect of the pox starts showing itself.

What do you think about "The fact that LeChuck is actually quite a nice guy"? I love this twist but how is it going down with the "LeChuck must be really scary" crew?

I'm not sure "a bunch of island hopping in this adventure" was referring to the season or the episode, but the ideas of seeing multiple islands in one chapter would be great, if a little unrealistic?

I love the idea of a section being just on the ship, SoMI style - although in confined areas puzzles do tend to get easier.

Of course, there are multiple threads about the mystery swordswoman at the end of Ep1, but I'm excited how this will fit into the story, whoever it is.

Thoughts?
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  • edited August 2009
    What do you think about "The fact that LeChuck is actually quite a nice guy"? I love this twist but how is it going down with the "LeChuck must be really scary" crew?

    The actual quote is "LeChuck is actually quite a nice guy apparently", so I have confidence there will be a twist at some point :)
  • edited August 2009
    Well I'm excited, especially now that this was posted.

    While I hope the person with the sword is someone we already know, I don't think it will be someone we know, but a completely new character.
    But it seems as if the plot is getting darker to some degree already, with Guybrush getting more zombie-fied.
  • edited August 2009
    The island hopping sounds fun, but what I really look forward too is the actual siege of Spinner Cay. The title implies there will be a siege happening in this episode and a siege usually involves cannons and explosions and I love it when things blow up! Will it be a sea-based siege like in CoMI, along with a cannon mini-game? How will our pox-infected hero be involved in it? I can't really be sure, but I wish that episode would come out soon!
  • edited August 2009
    Or maybe the title is just a bad pun on the french word "siège", which means... chair.
    So at some point you'll have to sit down and spin around :eek:
  • edited August 2009
    Ya know, the more I think about it, the more wide-open the "mystery swordsperson" becomes. Everyone has been assuming (me included) that it is most likely a woman from one of the past games who has a huge beef with Guybrush and we seem to have mostly accepted that it is Kate Capsize. However, what if it's just some random woman from Guybrush's past that has been infected by the pox and just decides to get really angry and attack him? The pox seems to completely take over people's actions so it could be someone who Guybrush never did anything wrong to but is just going to attack him because of the pox.
  • edited August 2009
    Marzhin wrote: »
    The actual quote is "LeChuck is actually quite a nice guy apparently", so I have confidence there will be a twist at some point :)

    Yeah, LeChuck may be acting nice, but he probably still has very sinister intentions in mind. We might not find in the next episode but I'm sure LeChuck has something terrible planned. Also remember, that this series is said to have betrayals. If Guybrush actually works with LeChuck, LeChuck may eventually reveal his true hand and betray him. I think he might use Guybrush to obtain his own ends, he has to notice by now that Guybrush is actually a pretty intelligent if not lucky guy. Why not use that to his advantage?
  • edited August 2009
    Yeah, LeChuck may be acting nice, but he probably still has very sinister intentions in mind. We might not find in the next episode but I'm sure LeChuck has something terrible planned. Also remember, that this series is said to have betrayals. If Guybrush actually works with LeChuck, LeChuck may eventually reveal his true hand and betray him. I think he might use Guybrush to obtain his own ends, he has to notice by now that Guybrush is actually a pretty intelligent if not lucky guy. Why not use that to his advantage?

    I don't know, I quite like the theory that the pox is everything that made Lechuck evil. Thinking of it as all the nastiness sucked out of him and infecting the Caribbean.

    Either's possible really, depends where they're going with it:D

    As for my hopes and predictions:
      Hoping for possible Wally return for the episode (but not banking on it)
    • Thinking the mysterious voice is Kate Capsize.
    • Maybe Stan's return?
    I'm also hoping for some epic music from Michael Land and awesome scenes as Guybrush becomes more and more zombie-fied.

    That'd be cool:cool:
  • edited August 2009
    My hope is that LeChuck only seems nice for a limited time. I want the evil, sick LeChuck from MI2.
  • edited August 2009
    I'm hoping that Telltale doesn't play "safe" with the humor and really let's loose on us.

    I also hope to see some
    Men of Low Moral Fiber.

    I also hope that the
    possible mermen don't feel too much like Zelda characters.
  • edited August 2009
    Could the mystery swordswoman be SMI and EMI's Carla? It's a thought...

    ...I really want to see interludes featuring Elaine and LeChuck in this episode, leading up to Guybrush getting aboard the ship for the finale, then Episode Three beginning with that exchange...
  • edited August 2009
    I really want to see some sort of nuclear explosion. I don't know why. Gotta nuke something...
  • edited August 2009
    My predictions: (all complete spoilers)
    - Mystery voice is either Kate or a completely new character (what makes me think Kate as opposed to Carla is the MI2 influences are strong in Tales, plus both Kate and Morgan have a thing for leaflets.

    - those white flowers will be important - Voodoo Lady's little spiel about them was interesting in Narwhal, and wasn't it the same type as LeChuck gave to Elaine?

    I hope we get to learn more about the Vaycaylians, but also hope that they're not standard Disney merpeople. Something a bit edgier would be cool.

    I can imagine a scene (maybe in Siege of Spinner Cay, maybe later) where Elaine is confronted with Guybrush-acting-evil-because-of-the-pox and "good" LeChuck - and somehow you have to convince her the real Guybrush is still there... or maybe she'll see Guybrush with mystery lady and assume the worst...
    I can't wait til it comes out!
  • edited August 2009
    Yeah, no big surprise there. The Twist ("Evil" Guybrush, "Good" Le Chuck) will be nice for the time being. :) I´m looking forward to it.

    Please don´t screw up the merpeople, i fear that they won´t fit into the Monkey Island Universe.
  • edited August 2009
    Talesofmi.net has an interesting trivia tidbit that may reveal the attacker's identity:
    Morgan LeFlay makes us think about Morgan le Fay, alternatively known as Morgane, Morgaine, Morgana and other variants. She is a powerful sorceress in the Arthurian legend. Early works featuring Morgan do not elaborate her character beyond her role as a fay or magician. She became much more prominent in the later cyclical prose works such as the Lancelot-Grail and the Post-Vulgate Cycle, in which she becomes an antagonist to King Arthur and Queen Guinevere.

    Could he, Morgan, be she, Morgan?
  • edited August 2009
    Well if you look at all the dialogue between Guybrush, LeChuck, and Elaine, there seems to be a lot of foreshadowing. They say alot of seemingly random stuff but it's actually very relevant. LeChuck mentions that his outer appearnce means nothing and that he has unseen power inside him. Guybrush also says that LeChuck's plans are usually so well thought out.

    Based off that, I think LeChuck may seem nice, but still has a very sinister agenda. Based off the bit Guybrush said, I think LeChuck has a very clever plan in mind that will swoop over all heads until the last chapter.
  • edited August 2009
    Shark week reminded me that spinner is a type of shark, so Guybrush may be in shark infested waters. Which might ultimately result in him being stuck on an island (or key). Again.
  • edited August 2009
    Talesofmi.net has an interesting trivia tidbit that may reveal the attacker's identity:



    Could he, Morgan, be she, Morgan?

    yeah when i first heard the name morgan in the game i intantly thought of a woman because the only morgan i know is a girl
  • edited August 2009
    Shark week reminded me that spinner is a type of shark, so Guybrush may be in shark infested waters. Which might ultimately result in him being stuck on an island (or key). Again.

    I wonder about this Leviathan in E3...
    balin2k wrote: »
    yeah when i first heard the name morgan in the game i intantly thought of a woman because the only morgan i know is a girl

    What about Morgan Freeman? :)
  • edited August 2009
    Shark week reminded me that spinner is a type of shark, so Guybrush may be in shark infested waters. Which might ultimately result in him being stuck on an island (or key). Again.


    Interesting... I hadn't thought about it like that... makes perfect sense.
  • edited August 2009
    Shark week reminded me that spinner is a type of shark, so Guybrush may be in shark infested waters. Which might ultimately result in him being stuck on an island (or key). Again.

    I hope that's not it. Two shipwrecks in one season would seem really repetitive.
  • edited August 2009
    All interesting ideas! I think that
  • edited August 2009
    thanatos56 wrote: »
    I hope that's not it. Two shipwrecks in one season would seem really repetitive.

    I think there will be a certain amount of "Have to get off this island!" for one reason or another, just like the other games.
  • edited August 2009

    What do you think about "The fact that LeChuck is actually quite a nice guy"? I love this twist but how is it going down with the "LeChuck must be really scary" crew?

    can't get used to the fact that lechuck may be a good guy... I want the evil zombified lechuck back ..lol
    Anyway I am sure he has a sinister plan so he may appear nice but actually isn't.
  • edited August 2009
    Obviously he's trying to get to La Esponga Grande, but are we thinking that's later in the game? I think Elaine will fall in love with LeChuck and get scared of Poxed Guybrush.
  • edited August 2009
    Masta23 wrote: »
    can't get used to the fact that lechuck may be a good guy... I want the evil zombified lechuck back ..lol
    Anyway I am sure he has a sinister plan so he may appear nice but actually isn't.
    I'm guessing the evil zombie pirate Lechuck will return at the end of the season:D

    As a complete guess (obviously) I could see Guybrush being taken completely by the pox right at the very discovery of La Esponja Grande, turning him against the very idea of curing himself and the Caribbean.

    Then good Lechuck...activates?...activates the Voodoo Sponge and somehow in turn absorbs all the pox back into himself.

    Then you get the usual show down between Guybrush and Lechuck.

    I'm probably waaaaaaaay off the mark considering i've not even taken into account the final episode title "Rise of the Pirate God" but i've still had fun speculating:p
  • edited August 2009
    ^ this thread is a voodoo curse of spoilers.
  • edited August 2009
    This has probably been mentioned before, but I only discovered this for myself on another playthrough of the game last night but there are
    tarot cards in the Voodoo shack that the voodoo lady uses to tell you that you will lose something dear while gaining a new friend. Obviously the new friend is most likely going to be the woman holding the sword, though she might actually have meant Winslow, but the loss of something dear?

    Elaine maybe? Perhaps for good?

    Oh, and hello everyone! :)
  • edited August 2009
    What do you think about "The fact that LeChuck is actually quite a nice guy"? I love this twist but how is it going down with the "LeChuck must be really scary" crew?

    It is just for the series I bet. When Guybrush get's rid of the pox I bet Le Chuck will inervertently get it back.

    Oh and I bet upon giving Esponge the pox it turns into a pirate god or something.
  • edited August 2009
    Jazzy wrote: »
    This has probably been mentioned before, but I only discovered this for myself on another playthrough of the game last night but there are
    tarot cards in the Voodoo shack that the voodoo lady uses to tell you that you will lose something dear while gaining a new friend. Obviously the new friend is most likely going to be the woman holding the sword, though she might actually have meant Winslow, but the loss of something dear?

    Elaine maybe? Perhaps for good?

    Oh, and hello everyone! :)

    Could LeChuck be the friend?
  • edited August 2009
    Could LeChuck be the friend?
    ...I didn't think of that, but now that I am it actually makes a lot of scary sense. Making friends with the very guy stealing your wife away...it's diabolical! :o
  • edited August 2009
    I just thought, the mysterious voice could actually be Elaine's mother:D

    Unlikely but not outside the realms of possibility:p
  • edited August 2009
    That would be at least interesting... an angry mother-in-law :p
  • edited August 2009
    I think Ron Gilbert mentioned that he never would have had Guybrush and Elaine marry. Going by Mr. Gilbert's input in the game and the fact that Tales seems to be quite MI2 influenced (MI2 featured a subplot where Guybrush tried to get back together with Elaine), we may well see them break up (hence Guybrush losing something).

    Here's an idea: since LeChuck first died while trying to court Elaine (before SMI), I've always though that the only way he could actually 'drop dead' for good was if he actually married Elaine. Throughout the games, he's always tried to get her to love him; how ironic if that was the only thing that could undo him for good. Just a wee theory.
  • edited August 2009
    That's a really interesting idea you got there! If we go by the theory that ghosts are bound to the earth due to unfinished business, and that LeChuck's unfinished business was getting Elaine to fall in love and marry him, then Elaine doing so would finish all his business, and he might literally then drop dead! Unless of course killing Guybrush is also some of his unfinished business, in which case Mr Threepwood would still be screwed so to speak, not to say losing Elaine wouldn't be bad enough as it is...

    I reckon we are going to see what appears to be Elaine falling for LeChuck, even if it is just Guybrush misinterpreting what he's seeing or taking it out of context, though I actually hope Elaine does fall in love with LeChuck, as it would shake things up a bit and everyone would guess the truth otherwise.
  • edited August 2009
    Unless of course killing Guybrush is also some of his unfinished business, in which case Mr Threepwood would still be screwed so to speak, not to say losing Elaine wouldn't be bad enough as it is...

    Well, no, since LeChuck (or anyone for that matter) hadn't even heard of Guybrush before SMI, so he died before even meeting him.

    I like this idea of uninished buiseness leading LeChuck to drop dead once and for all as soon as he finally gets married. Hell, i like it A LOT. I could even see it at being the actual secret of monkey island if done right.
    But...
    I higly doubt that's going to happen in tales. This would just end the storyline once and for all.. No more LeChuck = No more reason for guybrush to keep trying to kill again, right ?
    I don't know if Telltale plans of doing other seasons or not, but it seems unlikeley they'd end the series so drastically.
  • edited August 2009
    Is the only referrence to the whole "drop-dead" thing by Mancomb Seepgood?

    If so, he does seem to take the whole thing with a pinch of salt, as if it is a rumour / myth.
  • edited August 2009
    Interesting theories.

    But I still think
    Morgan is actually Largo.
    Time will tell.
  • edited August 2009
    Interesting theories.

    But I still think
    Morgan is actually Largo.
    Time will tell.

    Not heard that one yet! Seems unlikey IMO, a pirate-hunting pirate! Would be fun though.

    (Also, do you need spoiler tags in a thread that has spoilers in the title? Especially for pure speculation - not a dig, just curious)
  • edited August 2009
    Well, he might be able to pick up new unfinished business even after dying, but I get ya point.

    The Secret being that all of Elaine's husbands are destined to die after marrying her and die an old spinster? Could be humourous, but as you said they are unlikely to do that, though I do hope that if the MI series carries on for any length of time that LeChuck isn't always in it, otherwise it could end up like the Legend of Zelda series (don green costume, get big sword, save princess from evil wizard guy). Heh, if they do break up Guybrush and Elaine we could end up with her as the bad guy in one! :eek:
  • edited August 2009
    The Secret being that all of Elaine's husbands are destined to die after marrying her and die an old spinster?

    Well i was more thinkin of something like "just let him marry her and the bastard will drop".
    Not saying that's it, but it would make for a fun twist indeed (having bothered so much in SMI to learn that not only Elaine could handle herself, but also that just letting him marry her would have actually gotten you both rid of him).
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