Chapter 2 screenshots
http://www.telltalegames.com/monkeyisland/siegeofspinnercay/gallery
finally.
again, we have some very familiar looking pirates (and I'm, refering to their models)
finally.
again, we have some very familiar looking pirates (and I'm, refering to their models)
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Just resaw the images and it looks good. I guess i shouldnt have jumped the gun. TTG chapter 2 looks interesting.
But Elaine looks like she's skinnier than Guybrush! How is that possible?!?!
It's the coat.
why can't she be skinnier? she's a girl and guybrush is not getting younger you know. elaine really is quite skinny in tales though. it didn't show so much in the first episode, 'cause we see her tied up most of the time.
yeah, they look different enough from the flotsam pirates...i just hope that there won't be a bunch of these guys again. so far the reuse of the models was the only thing that disappointed me about tales..
Is there a higher Quality as in Cap 1?
They have more contrast and some more details, i think...
After two episodes, ToMI has 18 characters, which is more than all of Season One for Sam & Max. It's a trade off worth making.
The light seems to say Jerkbaits are 'sunset' islands (as opposed to night/day distinction in the previous games). I bet the setting sun makes them very picturesque
I wouldn't mind if they use same models EACH EPISODE but not 2 models throughout the whole season.
have I already said, that this SUX BAD?!
You know the characters from Chapter 2 already?!
Lets listen whats known so far:
TOMI:
Guybrush
Elaine
Le Chuck
Le Chuck (human)
Vodoo Lady
Pirate at the beach who gets beaten by Guybrush
Nipperkin
De Synge
Van Winslow
the guy with the dolls
the glass-selling pirate
the pox-infected one at the stairs of the courthouse
Morgan La Fay at the End of Ep. 1
the 2 pirates from Ep 2 Screens
(hope I forgot no one, and I didnt include chars which PROBABLY will show up)
So all in all: 15
Sam and Max Season ONE:
Sam
Max
Bosco
Sybill
Jimmy
Soda Popper I
Soda Popper II
Soda Popper III
Brady Culture
the directress (From Ep. 2)
this chicken-guy
the cow (more or less a char)
the TV-Lady
Hugh Bliss (although he has 2 forms - I count him as one)
Leonard
the Mole
the toy Mafia-Guys (count them as one)
Superball
the (former) President
his personal bouncer
Ape Lincoln
the C.O.P.S. (okay I count them as one)
the VR-Lady (count her a half)
the recycled head of the TV-Lady as Internet Security (count her as half)
(hope I forgot no one - chars like the different colored Max I dount count as an own char)
Makes: 23 Chars
So you're wrong with ur calculation.
Besides no one forces Telltale to put so much pirates into TOMI. I rather have less of them, but more unique.
Guybrush's left hand is not visible, thus not revealing whether the pox has been cured or not.
Well played, Telltale. lol
Yeesh. You try making an episodic series with a deadline of a month between each episode. It takes literally days to create ONE character model. Considering they have to do the programming, Voice recording, models, story, testing, polishing, interface, etc, etc, ect, all in a month, why SHOULDN'T they reuse a couple models to save time? Stop whining about it.
but im almost positive im just looking for things that arnt there.
Wow, I haven't realised that. But at least they could make them like Mr. Potato Head. You know, swaping noses and eyes, to make them look at least a bit different to each other.
Maybe she is about to hug him or jump on him. Looks more like it.
Some of these are more subtle (Crimpdigit and the Pox Pirate from Chapter 1, for example) and some of them are more obvious (Nipperkin and Winslow).
But there's a clear tradeoff here in terms of getting more new locations. If we get more than 1 or 2 new scenes an episode I'll be happy seeing familiar looking characters.
But if they are only going to have 2 meshes they should probably have been less distinctive. If there's only two sizes then medium and medium would make more sense than tall and fat and short and thin.
Yeah....
BAAAADDD recycling..... I already hate the 2 models of pirate....
TT, it was better to use a "Bosco with huge beard" mesh instead of using AGAIN those 2 characters....
Uh dude i just retracted my statement. I know its recicled but it doesnt look to obvious, so i was pleased after a second look. Look at my second post in the 1st page of this thread.
I know. I just multi-quoted all the posts on the first page complaining about it. I'll take it off.
I may be wrong but I got the impression the problem wasn't so much time as the space on the Wii download system restricting the number of models they could use. Even so, given that they seem to be able to change the character clothing quite significantly, I'm not sure why it's so out of the question to alter facial features enough to give at least a bit of distinction. I appreciate compromises need to be made on a project like this, but the fact is that if they're really going to keep using the same two models for every minor character over the next four episodes, Telltale will have to have to get used to receiving flak for it.
I'm sure this saves them a bit of time, too, since the way Telltale tool works involves scripting from a library of canned animations and redoing these for every character would surely be a pain. Time is obviously a concern for them as well, so it may be a bit of both. Or that the space limitation has freed them up to recycle without a guilty conscience.
Yes, They can rig the Bosco mesh (not to mention the Grandpa Stinky mesh) to make new pirates.
Mr president i have to disagree with your remark. In contrast with S&M TOMI has new environment in the game which freshens things up. Secondly the characters recicled in S&M where done much more obvious and annoying hurting the storyline for me in season 1 (havent seen season 2). I also believe in change Mr.president and believe in your agenda, but please believe also in the people like TTG. Dont bash em down and catalog em as terrorist of the gaming industry.
The characters shown dont look too obvious and the same as those of chapters 1. But they do look familiar in some aspects, but its not something to say ITS THE SAME PIRATES AS CHAPTER 1!! A TTG designer posted a few weeks back that we will get lots of pirates, that will help enrich the pirate age in which guybrush lives. Dont jump the gun yet, like i did. You must admit that Chapter 2 and TOMI is cooking an awesome story, and what its cooking $mell$ good for the fan$$$. Now lets have a grog and talk about what i can do for you and you for the country and us.
I'm well aware of what I've paid for and the limitations of episodic gaming but I don't think it's unreasonable to show irritation that so many characters look so very alike. It's not like they're bound forever to short fat guy and tall lanky guy without having to make new models. They ripped Leonard Steakcharmer from S&M as one of their default models - who was ripped from Texas Hold 'Em. They could have taken a different set of old models at least - from Bone probably.
They could've at least picked a different set to re-use each episode. I'm not an idiot - I'm well aware game development is costly and expensive. I also don't think I've been trolling or unreasonable. If no one critically looks at the game a large benefit of episodic gaming is ignored - improving mistakes you made in prior episodes.
I particularly hate this attitude that "if you complain about anything in the game you're whining like a petulant child." I really love TMI but there's a difference between appreciating a game and being a blind fanboy. Complaining about blatant and repeated character reusage that doesn't even feature a model set switch from episode to episode isn't on the same level of expecting Telltale to produce monthly Crysis graphics.