Can humans really love?

Sometimes i wonder, can humans really give love? love that doesn't ask for something in return?

I just visited an old friend from the hospital, and then I heard a little child telling her mom, "thanks mom, for staying with me during this time." and then the mom replied, it's okay dear, it's our responsibility.

Maybe the mom meant something else, but it somewhat didn't sound right to my ear. Why can't she just say, I did it because I love you and I'm not asking something in return. Sometimes, I just feel like parents wanted to bear children inorder to have some sort of insurance, like so that when they grow old, they want their kids to care for them. I know it's the right thing for children to show them the love and care in return, but wouldn't it be more right if their doing it out of love?

And then there are the people who are "workers of the vineyard". Sometimes, when I see them, even though they say they are doing it for the Lord, there's just this feeling that they're doing it because it's their job, you can't really feel the love and care. There's this one moment when I saw a religious person she was so good to the children. But then when I just saw her alone in a corner and greeted "Good morning", she didn't reply. maybe she hadn't heard me or something like that.

Although I admit in this thread - I'm not a good or kind person. Sometimes I just do good things out of mercy or because I feel like doing it. But when beggars come everyday and when they do it routinely to ask money from me, I would say I don't have money left, eventhough I have. I guess that's my bad characteristic.

And then there are the untouchables. the people who are unloved. can we really blame people who are rejected by society if they resort to watching R-rated movies? When that's the only small ray of light or happiness they can feel accepted? Even though it's just imaginary for them, maybe they just couldn't cope up with the reality that no one cares for them and the rejection they receive from the world that ignores, snobs and brands them. Can we really blame them if they resort to drinking if that's the only time when they can have a little sip to forget their problems?
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  • MrJavaMrJava Banned
    edited June 2017

    Humans can really love. Your examples are not worth generalization. For example, my mom can be really protective and considerate. She never said that I did it because you are my responsibility. She said that I did it because you and your sister will all I leave behind when I am gone. She said that me and my sister will be her legacy. She did so many sacrifices to send me to university and send my sister to highschool. Believe me, she went through so many desperate and hard situations and some shit. Only way to handle it is that doing it for someone you love. So, she loves us. Same valid for my dad. He is working so hard to give a great life to us. And again, if you dont do it for someone you love, people cant handle these situations.

    I got so many friends which doesnt hesitate to give me money when I need some. When I got depression, they called me they backed me up which helped a lot for me. I am happy now because I went through it with people I can relate and trust.

    You have to test people to find out that person loves you or not. Your possess some bad sides in your personality but you can work for it and make it better. Its not impossible. Life is good when you have people to share it with or if you have some people to love and trust. Just work on it.

  • Dude! You iranian??
    I am getting an iranian or at least a religious vibe here?!!

  • christian

    Mr20320su posted: »

    Dude! You iranian?? I am getting an iranian or at least a religious vibe here?!!

  • it's good for you to have real friends and parents that care for without expecting something in return. but for me who even goes to church, i can't feel their care.

    MrJava posted: »

    Humans can really love. Your examples are not worth generalization. For example, my mom can be really protective and considerate. She never

  • I'd like to answer your obvious question with an off-track question.

    can we really blame people who are rejected by society if they resort to watching R-rated movies? When that's the only small ray of light or happiness they can feel accepted?

    What?

  • I'd like to answer your obvious question with an off-track question. can we really blame people who are rejected by society if they re

  • shit got deep fast. I feel like sometimes rarely that people actually love. we love (or act like it) to be loved to be cared for at leat that's what I get at my society

    I don't think we really can love love can we fake it? yes is it real no maybe yes who knows for all we could know it's our mind playing games on us or is it?

  • that's the hurting thing about love sometimes people will try to do anything to ruin but nothing is going to ruin you as much as their love

  • if you also analyze John 3:16 it also seems it's not unconditional love. Because it says, "...that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life."

    The condition is, you have to believe. So the people who don't believe, will burn in hell for eternity?

  • well as Shane Dawson once said

    Anonymer posted: »

    if you also analyze John 3:16 it also seems it's not unconditional love. Because it says, "...that whosoever believes in him shall not peris

  • the god i know wouldn't have a hell at least not the hell we see in movies

    Anonymer posted: »

    if you also analyze John 3:16 it also seems it's not unconditional love. Because it says, "...that whosoever believes in him shall not peris

  • That's all bullshit dear, don't believe it.

    Anonymer posted: »

    if you also analyze John 3:16 it also seems it's not unconditional love. Because it says, "...that whosoever believes in him shall not peris

  • he didn't mean it in that way he meant that there's hell but it isn't as hot or filled with demons just a place isolated away from the people your all alone on your own

    colbyjack posted: »

    That's all bullshit dear, don't believe it.

  • But that's not how it's described in almost any religion. Hell is quite literally a place full of demons and fire where do-no-goods go to suffer for eternity.

    he didn't mean it in that way he meant that there's hell but it isn't as hot or filled with demons just a place isolated away from the people your all alone on your own


  • Just watch this video then hmu

    colbyjack posted: »

    But that's not how it's described in almost any religion. Hell is quite literally a place full of demons and fire where do-no-goods go to suffer for eternity.

  • MrJavaMrJava Banned

    I am so sorry to hear that. Truly, I am. I got only 6-7 true friends and they are enough for me. I gave these examples because I want to erase your hopelessness. If you need some help go and see a professional. Dont be afraid to do that. You wont born again. Live your life as best as you can. If you need someone to talk to, you can text me.

    Anonymer posted: »

    it's good for you to have real friends and parents that care for without expecting something in return. but for me who even goes to church, i can't feel their care.

  • The truest love is a mother's love for their children, so I belive humans can really love.

  • Honestly, i dont know. The truest love that exists is about affection, compromise and loyalty, but some people cant just do that. I want to believe it exists, but i dont think so

  • edited June 2017

    I swear you live in some hyper religious backwater and you just dont realise its not a normal place. I base this on yout older posts like the "can females court" one

    Of course people can love!!!! I love my dog, I love my boyfriend, I love food, I love therefore I am!

    Some people like religious nut jobs 'love'(read as 'obey') out of fear and some people like parents confuse duty with love.

    sorry you are doubting loves existence I cant promise you will ever experience it but I hope you do one day because love is a beautiful feeling.

    Edit: wrote far to much bullshit

  • Not all mothers love their children

    The truest love is a mother's love for their children, so I belive humans can really love.

  • Unfortunately thats true.

    Not all mothers love their children

  • It says believe, I believe farts stink it doesnt mean I love them.

    Anonymer posted: »

    if you also analyze John 3:16 it also seems it's not unconditional love. Because it says, "...that whosoever believes in him shall not peris

  • Smh

    Just watch this video then hmu

  • Only in shitty robot movies.

  • Honestly, love is something you choose to feel. "Love" is a internal criteria being met by you that allows you the sensation. Nobody can make you feel loved. You do it solely on your own by allowing it. Just like anger. Someone doesn't make you angry, you allow them to. I guess what I am saying is that, you feel what you want.

    Only in shitty robot movies.

  • exactly. it feels like people are only doing good to "their loved ones" so that when they grow old/sick, they will also be cared for. Or they only do good to feel good about themselves.

    if there's only one person who gave real love, that would be Jesus.

    shit got deep fast. I feel like sometimes rarely that people actually love. we love (or act like it) to be loved to be cared for at leat tha

  • i had an example on my post. and that's a true story. Her mother said, "it's okay dear, it's our responsibility."

    The truest love is a mother's love for their children, so I belive humans can really love.

  • That mother sounds like a strange person. Yes, humans can love. Some people, however, don't know how to love or express it. Love is an emotional connection that you feel and know is true.

  • You are equating a passage of the bible that is basically a veiled threat of damnation if you do not fall in line...every religion has something along those lines.
    Humans do love...I see it at work all the time. I am a nurse...I deal with the basic circle of life.

    I work at a hospital and part time at a nursing home....I have seen birth and the look of parents upon seeing their baby for the first time. I have seen a husband come in and talk to his wife every day until she died from Alzheimer's.

    I have seen beauty and I have seen terrible things. People can love and most of them do...but there are always going to be those people who if I believed in hell...would be going there. I have seen abuse. I have seen a children half-starved due to neglect.

    So yes...it is easy to say that unconditional love does not happen, if you just base it on seeing people at their worst. People can be jerks...they can be hateful....but I have seen pure unconditional love...it does exist.

    Anonymer posted: »

    if you also analyze John 3:16 it also seems it's not unconditional love. Because it says, "...that whosoever believes in him shall not peris

  • I just visited an old friend from the hospital, and then I heard a little child telling her mom, "thanks mom, for staying with me during this time." and then the mom replied, it's okay dear, it's our responsibility.

    Well to me, that sounds like the mother takes her responsibility of looking after her child seriously because she loves her.
    The mother is aware that she cannot just feel or say that she loves her child and be passive about it, she must actively show her love through caring for her child.
    You can't love your child but not look after them, it's contradictory.
    And you don't have to verbalize love as well. You show it through your actions.

    It sounds, to me, like the mother is saying "I do not expect you to thank me because you can expect me to look after you, but I appreciate your expression of gratitude.".

    Parents that don't truly love their children hate that responsibility.... At least from my experience.

    But I don't know, I wasn't there. I'm not gonna deny that it didn't seem right to you. That's just my interpretation of it.

    I believe that humans are capable of love, but that doesn't mean they'll always choose it.

  • I once had a girlfriend who onoy ever wanted something if it benefited her and i would ask for nothing in return only her love when i finally said that love isnt money she decided to cheat and dumped me like i was nobody it still hurts now

  • I think, exactly animals can really love. Without any expectations and obligations. They just love, because they feel like this. And yes, I believe animals can love, indeed.

  • i call that girl a user. damn that girl.

    I once had a girlfriend who onoy ever wanted something if it benefited her and i would ask for nothing in return only her love when i finally said that love isnt money she decided to cheat and dumped me like i was nobody it still hurts now

  • You ever consider running her over for it?

    I once had a girlfriend who onoy ever wanted something if it benefited her and i would ask for nothing in return only her love when i finally said that love isnt money she decided to cheat and dumped me like i was nobody it still hurts now

  • cant drive yet lol but yeah felt like it a few times

    Melton23 posted: »

    You ever consider running her over for it?

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